US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said on Tuesday that the US would work with Israel to ensure Iran faces “severe consequences” for launching a missile attack on Israel, which came in response to recent Israeli escalations.
“There will be severe consequences for this attack, and we will work with Israel to make that the case,” Sullivan told reporters at the White House.
President Biden said the US was in “active discussions” with Israel on what the response would be. “The United States is fully, fully, fully supportive of Israel,” he said.
Media reports say Iran fired at least 180 missiles at Israel. Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the attack was launched in retaliation for the Israeli assassination of Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, the killing of Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, and Abbas Nilforoushan, an IRGC commander who was killed alongside Nasrallah.
The IRCG has claimed that 90% of the missiles hit their targets, while Israel claimed most were intercepted. Videos have surfaced that show Iranian missiles making an impact on Israeli military sites. So far, there’s been no word on Israeli deaths, but a Palestinian in the Israeli-occupied West Bank was killed when shrapnel from an intercepted missile fell on Jericho.
The US said that it helped Israel intercept some of the Iranian missiles and portrayed the defense as a success. Sullivan said the Iranian attack “appears to have been defeated and ineffective.”
“We are proud of the actions that we’ve taken alongside Israel to protect and defend Israel,” Sullivan added. The attack came a day after the Pentagon announced that it was sending a “few thousand” troops to the Middle East to prepare for the defense of Israel if needed.
The Iranian attack came after over a week of a dramatic escalation in Israel’s bombing campaign in Lebanon, which has killed over 1,000 people since September 23, including many civilians. Despite claims from Biden administration officials that they wanted to see a ceasefire in Lebanon, the US has backed Israel’s escalations and now is prepared to defend it from any consequences it may face.
Iran has signaled that it’s done attacking Israel but warned there would be a “crushing response” if Israel hits back. Israeli officials have made clear that they plan to respond.
“There will be consequences,” said Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari. “Our defensive and offensive capabilities are at the highest levels of readiness. Our operational plans are ready. We will respond wherever, whenever, and however we choose, in accordance with the directive of the government of Israel.”
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Iran will “pay” for the attack. “This evening, Iran made a big mistake — and it will pay for it,” he said at a security cabinet meeting. “The regime in Tehran does not understand our determination to defend ourselves and to exact a price from our enemies.”
Did any of the “reporters” ask Sullivan how this all is any of the US’s damn business??
"We play favorites," responds Sullivan. "If your country is fighting an ancient enemy of America, like Ukraine against the Soviet Union…or if you're in a useful geographic location, like the Philippines vs. China…or if your State religion is extremely close to America's One True Christianity…then whatever stupid s**t you're up to, we're ALL FOR IT in Washington D.C. !!"
The main responsibility of U.S. current regime is the responsibility to protect Zionism. If you don't agree with this, you should think about changing the regime.
Well, not everything is so hopeless. The port strikes maybe is the first step in this direction.
The main responsibility of the US regime always is care and feeding of the owner class … the people who matter.
Some of these people are very supportive of Iz and, in the absence of counter arguments, rule the issue. However, if the majority of the owners start feeling risk, things may change.
There is a difference between owners. One owner owns $1 million, the other owner owns $100 billions. Political weight of small number of superrich is greater than political weight of small and medium size business owners who are, of course, the majority. The majority of the superrich are either connected to Israel by blood or for some reasons are devoted to Zionism.
Managerial elite, not just capitalist elite. They all matter.
Asians are increasingly powerful in the US. Things will change.
The US lives in an alternative reality. It is delusional reality.
The Bible is being fulfilled! Lol.
Biden and Bibi got what they wanted. But the old adage applies: Be careful what you ask for.
The video of Biden snapping at a reporter exposed what he is; and angry old man. The problem is his anger is getting thousands killed, displaced, maimed.
Beautiful smile.
Watching that right now, actually. Pepe is talking about how Pezeshkian was conned by the West and Khamenei was ticked off about that. This jibes with what I've seen reported elsewhere.
Unfortunately he just said Iran has 'thousands" of missiles it can use to hit Israel. No, they don't. They have a limited number of missiles with the range to hit Israel compared to their total missile arsenal.
People always quote the 3,000 figure – which is wrong. That number comes from one US General's testimony to Congress and what he actually said was "SOME OF THEM can hit Tel Aviv."
How do we, and you, really know? I am sure Iran will offer to the press the exact numbers and locations of the missiles, right?
All these videos were photo shopped according to you know who…!
There is no question that some missiles landed. The question is what did they hit? The command and control computers project where the warheads will land and if they are projected to land in an open area no interceptors are fired.
Keep dreaming of no damage. Four F-35s were destroyed…!
One would suspect that aljazeera would be reporting that. But they are not. Neither is any other serious news source reporting that. What is your source?
My source is Iranian news;
Their modern missiles are accurate enough to hit an oil platform far at sea and the Iranians claim eighty percent of their missiles hit the chosen military targets,
I'd guess anyone on a US ship has noticed the accuracy to hit an oil platform is good enough to hit a ship. Targets the size of oil platforms are plentiful at military bases, which Iranians targeted, rather than civilians, like the US and Israel.
Additionally, Israel claims it has invaded Lebanon and the Lebanese say it hasn't happened yet, though that may have changed since last night.
"I'd guess anyone on a US ship has noticed the accuracy to hit an oil platform is good enough to hit a ship." Let me explain something to you. Ships move platform don't.
You trust Iranian news? OK.
If 80% of missile hit their targets which is 144 missiles would not there be substantial more damage?
They could be AI. I don’t believe they’re AI.
They could be AI. I don’t believe they’re AI.
The idea that Biden would threaten retaliation tends to illustrate who is participating in the Palestinian genocide..
Just Foreign Policy @justfp
Seems @ JakeSullivan46 needs a refresher on the US
Constitution:
2h
Any US participation in hostilities (other than response to sudden attack on US) must be authorized by Congress.
Israel is not the US.
@Brett_McGurk @AmosHochstein cannot unilaterally authorize US to go to war.
I know, right? It's sickening to think Bidens just being wheeled around like the talking head he is. Meanwhile his zionist puppeteers are starting ww3. Absolute psychos.
Dude! That's an insult to Biden. He is the best "Zioni$t starting WW3 absolute psychos."
Oh, The Horror The Horror
Article 1 Section 8 Clause 11 The Congress shall have Power … To declare War …
Did "Congress … declare War …" in
1 Korean Police Action
2 Vietnam Conflict
3 Afghanistan Invasion*
4 Iraq Invasion*
5 Libya Invasion*
Israel is the United States**
Not!, "… Seems … needs a refresher on the US Constitution: …"
United States citizens, government actions show, need to understand that the United States Constitution has Not! governed or directed the United States since 1945.
Not!, only has the United States Constitution has Not! governed or directed the United States since 1945 in unConstitutional wars of aggression, but also in the so-called "financial crisis of 2008 and 2009, as well as other financial crises.
My offer of evidence is T.A.R.P. and the fact that Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley were made "charted F.D.I.C. banks" over a weekend without factual, documentation or law basis.
And so it goes.
The so-called United States is an empire … Oligarchic, Monopolistic, Kleptocracy.
America The Land Of The Free And The Home Of The Brave
U.S.A. Number 1
Oh , The Joy The Joy
dennis hanna
*Global War On Terrorism
**Israel is the United States.
The United States is Israel.
Israel:
God’s Chosen People
United States:
American Exceptionalism*
The Earth’s Last Best Hope**
The Indispensable Nation***
The One Indispensable Nation****
A settler-Colonial land.
The Promised Land,
Manifest Destiny is our stand.
A land with no people for
A people with no land.
Indian Territory(ies)
Palestinian Territory(ies)
Occupied Palestinian Territory(ies)
Illegally Occupied Palestinian Territory(ies)
Indian Reservations
Palestinian Reservations
“Area C”, Palestine?, you pray.
“Bantustans,” you say.
Apartheid is the only way.
No!, genocide is here to stay.
Why? Because election year or not Israel's supporters pay United States government representatives to obey.
Wait, all social and economic leaders in America and the "Western World" take Israel's supporters money, it's the only winning game to play.
United States Indians
Israel, PalestinIndians
Different names for the same thing, ethnic cleansing and Genocide.
The truth you can’t hide.
One and the same.
The Principle of Identity,
A difference only in name.
dennis hanna
"I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only ask them to think”
Socrates, 470 – 399 B.C.E.
*The first reference to the concept by name, and possibly its origin, was by French writer Alexis de Tocqueville in his 1835/1840 work, Democracy in America:
“The position of the Americans is therefore quite exceptional, and it may be believed that no democratic people will ever be placed in a similar one. Their strictly Puritanical origin, their exclusively commercial habits, even the country they inhabit, which seems to divert their minds from the pursuit of science, literature, and the arts, the proximity of Europe, which allows them to neglect these pursuits without relapsing into barbarism, a thousand special causes, of which I have only been able to point out the most important, have singularly concurred to fix the mind of the American upon purely practical objects. His passions, his wants, his education, and everything about him seem to unite in drawing the native of the United States earthward; his religion alone bids him turn, from time to time, a transient and distracted glance to heaven. Let us cease, then, to view all democratic nations under the example of the American people.”
**President Abraham Lincoln
Annual Message to Congress — Concluding Remarks
Washington, D.C.
December 1, 1862
One month before signing the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln sent a long message to Congress which was largely routine, but also proposed controversial measures such as voluntary colonization of slaves and compensated emancipation.
“… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. …”
***It is the threat of the use of force [against Iraq] and our line-up there that is going to put force behind the diplomacy. But if we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future, and we see the danger here to all of us.
Madeleinee K. Albright,
U.S. Secretary of State (1997–2001).
Stated on NBC's Today Show (February 19, 1998)
****"The United States is and will remain the one indispensable nation in the world. Now, sustaining our leadership, keeping America strong and secure means we have to use our power wisely," Obama said in his address to the American Legion in North Carolina. August 27, 2014 ( not the first or last time he uttered these words )
Please note, President Obama
clarified and specified “… the one indispensable nation …”
The President, thus, closed the rhetorical door on any other nation being “indispensable.”
In meaning and use, “the,” definite article, acts as a function word to indicate that a following noun or noun equivalent is a “unique” or “a” particular member” of its class; i.e. “the” President as compared to “a” president.
President Obama, of course, knew this being “ivory league” educated at Columbia University (B.A.) and Harvard University (J.D.)
Are you trying to be a jerk or does it come naturally?
Jake Sullivan isn’t the president. You’re good with deep state rule?
Nobody is as big of a "JERK" as the TRUTH. From previous comments, Dennis is not "good with deep state rule." The bad news for all of us is everything he said above was the TRUTH. Although Dennis was guilty of embellishing the jerkiness of the truth.
NA, I wasn’t born yesterday.
I didn't mean any disrespect, my brother. What did I miss in Dennis' post? It seems like something he feels strongly about and has been working on for a while like an ongoing rant. Did he say something intentionally and specifically to offend you?
The condescending tone. Like I do not understand what has transpired. “The horror”.
I mean, if I wrote a comment about censorship/surveillance , and someone said “big deal, patriot act”, etc. of course we all know, but it should still be recorded as furtherance of destruction of the constitution.
I understand now. But with all due respect, I don’t think Dennis was targeting you. I think he was sick and tired of the fact that argument should be working, but it doesn’t because they changed the game, they’re corrupt, and nobody cares. It’s like my feelings about the argument that nuclear weapons are really bad. It makes me emotionally insane and I don’t know how to articulate my insanity well enough! You and Dennis might feel like “collateral damage” if I lost it. I hope this helps.
I’m not harboring anything, NA. Just tossed my comment back. In past interactions, there was a similar tone. But I said what I had to say, and done.
I think you misread his intention.
I’m done with this, not important.
WWII. We declared war then.
After provoking Japan to attack. All we did to provoke Japan to attack was put up an oil blockade, which is an act of war.
Yes, an oil blockade would have been an act of war.
But the US didn’t put up an oil blockade. It simply refused to sell oil to Japan, aka an embargo.,
Tom, you are correct.
stop whining
Sullivan is partially correct because Congress will overwhelmingly and automatically approve the war on Iran.
Where is the demented leader?
“The United States is fully, fully, fully supportive of Israel,” he said.
Practicing saying "fully". I wonder if someone had to nudge him after fully number 3. Otherwise he'd prpbably had just kept on saying it.
Prior:
https://x.com/ErikSperling/status/1840981496598818910
https://x.com/jhaboush/status/1840945296718905571
lol
I’m impressed it was a full sentence with real words.
A "fully" sentence.
America is a nation that can be defined in a single word: Asufutimaehaehfutbw.
Truer words never spoken.
Like a broken, scratched 33 rpm record.
Exactly. Although I was thinking 45rpm. Either way, we're old.
I'm thinking another AUMF. Those ball less fucks don't want to lose any possible votes.
Retroactive at that.
Question: Has Iran attacked America?
Question: Has the U.S. attacked Iran?
Question: Has the U.S. enjoined a coup against Iran?
Question: Has Iran attacked America. Yes.
Bullshit. Iran has NEVER attacked America.
They’re still using the 9/11 or Iraq justification, whatever you call it. It’s not Constitutional, but that’s it.
Or they'll conjure up a new one. I expect a suggestion from someone from congress to be coming soon.
At least the Patriot Act has expired. According to Wikipedia: In November 2019, the renewal of the Patriot Act was included in the stop-gap government funding bill.[15] The expired provisions required renewal by March 15, 2020.[16] The Senate passed a 77-day extension in March 2020, but the House of Representatives did not pass the legislation before departing for recess on March 27, 2020. Instead, the Patriot Act was split into two measures as a means of explaining to the public that the Patriot Act would no longer openly be in effect. At that time, Democrats controlled the House of Representatives.
By providing war materials, targeting assistance, and the like, to Israel and other nations this administration is in violation of the Leahy laws. By providing Israel the means to commit continuing violent acts against humanity, the current administration is in violation and must immediately stop providing such assistance, weapons.
If they are violating the law, why has no one filed suit?
I know of at least one such suit, filed last month — DAWN v. U.S. Department of State. There may be others.
That doesn't mean they aren't violating the law.
Not if.
Israel is not a signatory to the NPT because it maintains a clandestine, open secret, nuclear weapons arsenal thought to contain hundreds of warheads. This technically makes Washington’s provision of hundreds of billions in financial and military aid to the Israeli government, over the past decades, illegal per US foreign assistance laws.
They are.
What happened to the Last Article Dave…?!
We will attack wherever, whenever and with whatever we want….that sums it nicely, the israeli attitude that's gotten us into this mess. I'm pretty sure these zionist psychos will use nukes, they don't care about anything but their demented ethnostate, they'd gladly kill millions just to 'win' , to prove they are the chosen ones.
War! What is it good for?
"exacting a price from our enemies", and everyone else, and nothing else matters.
“We are proud of the actions that we’ve taken alongside Israel to protect and defend Israel from retaliation". Fixed.
Israel weighs option of talks between Netanyahu, Putin — report
It is reported that the two leaders last spoke in December 2023
TEL AVIV, October 1. /TASS/. Israel is discussing the option of holding phone talks between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Ynet news website reported.
The discussions are taking place amid reports that Iran is readying a strike on Israel, according to the report.
"If the phone conversation takes place, it will be aimed at asking Putin to exert influence and prevent a direct Iranian attack on Israel," the news website said.
The two leaders last spoke in December 2023, according to Ynet.
Netanyahu's office has not yet commented on the report.
https://tass.com/world/1850581
Hamas is still standing strong in Gaza despite a year of Israeli genocide. But the Zionists are intoxicated with their success against Hezbollah and the apparent ineffectiveness of the Iranian retaliation. Al Jazeera analysts predict a major Israeli military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. It may be the first use of nuclear weapons since Nagasaki. I hope it doesn't come to that.
Israel's ability to infiltrate Hezbollah, to target its top leaders, disrupt the group's communications network and to kill or disable many mid level leaders damaged Hezbolloah. Today's retaliation by Iran demonstrated the inability of Iran to defeat the US/Israeli missile defenses and will only provoke Israel to further escalation.
Only the USA can prevent a major escalation by Israel. But Biden has shown no will or ability to exploit Israel's dependence on US
aid and military support to restrain Israel.
I think you’re watching too much MSM … there was all kinds of damages in todays bombardment …
"‘Severe Consequences" I will bet that will not happen. Some token response will occur.
Apparently – 3 Airfields, Mossad HQ, a couple of offshore gas platforms, and a Merkava staging area hit. The Airfields and Mossad HQ reported destroyed. TBD
Wild rumor that Israeli planes fled to English base on Cyprus
Where in world did you get that information?
trust him bro
Why should I trust him? There is no reports in the news networks that match his claim.
its called being rhetorical
even i understand
Also known as a lie.
clearly you know less english than me
Oh tell me what the definition of rhetorical and how does it apply to these his lies?
rhetorical means like not in jest or jokingly or not to be taken seriously
i said “trust him bro” rhetorically, using a rhetorical device to expose the stupidity of his claim
US hews monopolies are propaganda sources used to train gullible people to hate.
The BBC and aljazeera are not US news networks.
Of course there would not be. Media is running interference for Israel and the hellish Biden administration. THE news comes from alternative media.
The BBC and aljazeera are running interference for the USA why?
Plenty more social media posts from locals to add to these highlights
Videos in links
🇮🇷🇮🇱An Iranian missile exploded near the Mossad headquarters, located on the northern outskirts of Tel Aviv.
https://t.me/intelslava/67564 ( https://t.me/intelslava/67564)
🇮🇱🇮🇷 The Mossad headquarters, located in Tel Aviv, which was struck by Iranian missiles, was leveled.
Ronen Bergman, New York Times correspondent: I felt a series of massive explosions near my home in northern Tel Aviv, close to the Mossad headquarters, the Foreign Intelligence Agency, and Unit 8200, the electronic intelligence agency. The whole house was shaking
https://t.me/intelslava/67601 ( https://t.me/intelslava/67601)
🇮🇷🇮🇱 incredible speed of this Iranian missile, likely Fattah-1. Very difficult to intercept.
https://t.me/intelslava/67602 ( https://t.me/intelslava/67602)
🇮🇷🇮🇱By the way, in the event of a major war between Iran and Israel, with strikes on each other's oil facilities and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, oil prices will seriously skyrocket and the Russian Federation will earn billions or even tens of billions of dollars.
This is one of the motivations of the United States to try to keep the situation within the framework of a local conflict.
https://t.me/intelslava/67609 ( https://t.me/intelslava/67609)
Thank you for your work. You probably know in advance that there's more likelihood our toilets were born to learn the truth than some people.
CLOSE to the mossad HQ
they barely had any missiles reach their targests
The Likud has zero credibility anymore. Why believe their outrageous whoppers.
Who told you that? That does not say HQ was not destroyed, they should prove it is still sanding.
See CNN. The HQ is still there.
Did CNN date it? They report what they are told true or not.
Tapper, Bash, and Blitzer are sources? CNN the Hasbara propaganda channel.
The three of them sold their professional honor and credibility a long time ago.
Meanwhile, we, the indispensable nation, goes further bankrupt. Soon to his $40 trillion deficit. Lovely. Just lovely.
The Mossad headquarters is intact.
Sure it is.
There are always people who know and tell. Wait and see. Military bases where targets, that would include AB or not?
Really? My guess is that Hezbollah shared the videos that their recon drone took of key sites in Israel. Hezbollah showed off a snippet a month ago.
Someone said if the ISRAELI military AB is destroyed the Israelis have no base to land, so maybe they had no choice but to land on Cyprus.
The Likid should sue for peace immediately
The deal Israelis get today is going to be much better than what they get after another year of genociding.
They learned nothing from the Ukraine proxy experiment
In the end they will lose just like the Ukraine. They could have been neutral and prosperous, in the end the US will walk away and leave them in the lurch, they will do it to the Israelis too.
But it is possible that Israel, the child, eats its parent the USA first.
What a stupid idea. There are 14 IAF airbases and many civilian air fields. Why would they need to fly to Cyprus. Some people just can not think for themself and just go what they heard on a internet posts.
Some big potholes in a runway is enough to close a runway for repairs or not?
It takes a couple of good sized potholes to destroy a runway.
What about severe consequences for the genocide of Palestinian people in Gaza? Rhetorical question. We all know U.S. pro-Zionist rulers helped Israel as much as they could to make Gaza unhabitable for Arabs.
They need to just kick them out already. It’s like Hell opened up.
Gaza will become uninhabitable for Israeli Jews too or any humans if there are any left.
Just when you think the disastrous Harris-Biden regime couldn't possibly get us involved in yet ANOTHER WAR…..Here comes Operation Desert Storm (in IRAN this time). Don't look surprised, you knew it was coming.
They are closer to WW III. Belligerent mad dog Joe made enemies around the globe, friend or foe.
Israel has been breaking international laws for over 70 years. They are committing genocide in Gaza and the West Bank and just bombed the population of Lebanon with pagers and over 1,000 air attacks. Where was the world's concern or outrage then? It seems like the only nation in this with a "right to self-defense" is Israel! And that alleged "right" is null and void when it comes to an occupying nation! Everything Israel does is considered "retaliation" by the western media, like they haven't done anything wrong to merit this! How can Iran or any other nation a victim to Israel's lack of humanity NOT respond in some significant way? Israel has made its bed and THEY, and THEY ALONE, should sleep in it! If the USA involves US servicepeople in this conflagration, they are TRAITORS to the extreme, much like any nation that supported Hitler (US banks funded the German military!). The medicine Israel has doled out since October 7 doesn't taste very good, does it Bibi?
With all that’s transpired since 10/7, I think it’s clear that the US government believes its true purpose is to defend and prop up Israel regardless of the human or diplomatic costs, as Nancy Pelosi basically admitted.
They need Israel to protect US interests, it just so happens that the deranged Israeli Zionists control the deranged American neocons.
What interests? Oil? We produce enough of our own. Any interests we might have in the region would be better served if we stopped supporting Israel. That’s the main reason some Arab countries are hostile to us. Why does this little speck of land matter so much? If we pull out support they’d likely get destroyed by the countries around them, which I wouldn’t shed a tear for, and then we could have normal relations with the rest of the Middle East.
And it’s not just neocons that insist on supporting Israel. Aid to Israel is the one issue where the two political parties overwhelmingly agree.
The US and Israeli regimes help keep oil prices high.
The Arab regimes like high oil prices.
The US hates a free market, period. They hate any competition, they aim to rule the world.
I am talking about the ruling money elite, the regime, not the people.
When is enough enough? And of course there is price control and the power of sanctions and sabotage. Why do you think the Americans blew up the NS pipeline?
The USA will be the one and only oil producer when all the others are wiped out. Just like they eliminate economic competitors like China and Germany and EU, and Japan, not to forget. They sure hate Russia and China.
Heaven forbid Iran defends itself and its allies….
Israel has escalated by inflicting massive civilian deaths and damage, with the intention of turning the civilians against Hezbollah and Hamas–a cruel
war-crime ridden strategy.
In contrast, Iran has precisely hit military targets.
Iran has demonstrated its targeting accuracy.
All the evidence of inflicted damage on Israel is being suppressed—A natural
reaction to not provide Iran targeting feed-back.
The cellphone videos clearly show missiles hitting Israel without being intercepted.
Iran is the adult. Israel is the petulant spoiled child.
Iran wants peace whereas to Israel, ME peace would mean an end to its colonial expansion: you cannot carry out massive ethnic cleansing and genocide without the fog of a massive war.
Israel has witnessed Iranian capability: that is why the Israeli realists are hoping for peace, while the "nuts" are clamoring for using nukes.
First, the arrow, iron dome and other interceptors are using an algorithm to predict probable impact site. If the site is not populated, the interceptors do not launch.
it makes little sense that 200 ballistic missiles struck a tiny nation like Israel and only hitting a fish restaurant, a school's basketball court, some broken windows and (ironically) one Palestinian fatality.
As for Iran goals, other than Shia hegemony, they do not hide that the destruction of Israel is their goal. They have mandatory public prayers for this and a giant clock in Teheran with a countdown until Israel's destruction. Not exactly a secret.
"mandatory public prayers" – really? I have been there quite a few times and never witnessed that.
And what are Israel's goals? They do not hide that the destruction of Iran has been their goal since at least 1992 when Netanyahu first claimed Iran was 5 years from having a nuke. And it's been nonstop since then.
Remember, smart Trump opened the gate when he broke the Obama treaty agreement.
True to his character, he is a conman and megalomaniac.
We, the indispensable nation, opened the can of worms with the coup of the administration of Iran in 1953. It was all about oil, not some altruistic ideal.
If the Iranian attack was a failure we would have been told and shown the evidence. The Israelis would have trumpeted it from the highest roof tops to the world.
They would have provided photos of bombed out schools and hospitals and made us cry for the Israeli babies brutally killed by the Iranians.
By all available accounts the Iranians targeted military installations.
The Iranians did warn the Israelis, they were told there would be consequences.
That is what belligerent Israelis and Americans should expect, even if the Iranians did not say a word about consequences. It comes with the terrain.
War is not for cry babies, don't they know?
What are your sources? Iran wants to prevent war, only the Israelis and Americans are determined to attack Iran and provoke a war. Only comatose people don't know that.
Iran could have caused indiscriminate damage with deaths of many civilians. Iran didn't. The attack was focused on military targets.
What people are missing is that this is essentially a declaration of war by the US on Iran.
At the same time I have seen several stories in the press to the effect that the Iranian retaliation means that Iran has "declared war on Israel."
My conclusion is that the US has decided that the "tit-for-tat" is over and that Iran can now be successfully blamed for the new war, since the US population is too stupid to see through the situation.
This doesn't mean the war will heat up tomorrow. But I think it's clear that the US dissembling about "we don't want a wider war" is going to drop by the wayside shortly.
Israel will retaliate tonight or later, Iran will retaliate, and the US will get involved as soon as the Pentagon can figure out how to use the forces it has in the area to be involved and whether they need to send another carrier battle group in support.
Who else will join Iran, if anyone?
Russia and China will back Iran defensively and geopolitically and if Iran gets into existential trouble, directly. The Axis of Resistance will be enough immediate backup.
Who else will join Iran, if anyone?
Yes, it is. Which may mean that Iran has the right to protect itself by attacking American "interests", aka, military installations, or provide others with the means to attack American military installations. If the American carrier group gets involved, American sailors will die.
And what makes you think that Iran can hit a US aircraft carrier?
It’s at least possible that they could do so. Throw enough stuff at anything and some will get through, so the only questions are:
1) Do they have enough stuff?; and
2) Do they want to use that stuff for that purpose?
I’d have to get pretty good odds to bet the “yes” on both of those questions, especially the second one.
IMHO the war is already out of control, there is no adult, competent leadership on the US/ISRAELI/NATO side, if there were we would not be on the way to hell as we now are.
The ruling elite is out of control.
This just in:
…Wednesday, October 2, 3:30 pm (GMT+2)
HAMAS: The terrorist occupation committed horrific massacres in various parts of the Gaza Strip, including the barbaric, indiscriminate shelling of eastern Khan Younis and the barbaric raids on the Masqat School and the Al-Amal Orphanage, which house displaced people in Gaza City, which led to the deaths of about eighty martyrs…..
Comment – Blind Rage atrocities are the sign of a defeated military. See Rape of Manila for example.
Why are serial killers so indignant when someone calls them on their criminal activity https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ed1f3c414f70cceeb87451d83b82e953976dac48d5ecd5431d6608f7912cc0d.jpg ?
US Will Ensure Iran Faces ‘Severe Consequences’ for Attacking Israel while the USA is being attacked via the southern border and the Biden regime does nothing. How do you feel about your military sons and daughters being used as cannon fodder for a foreign nation?
Yeah, because people crossing your Very Special Important Magical Line on the Ground to work at poultry plants and do roofing without your permission is an “attack.”
A little G/E Ben Norton/ Michael Hudson context,
information of the issue.
Let’s remind people until around 1920 there was essentially zero border control for the U.S.. people lived, bought property, and worked freely on both sides of our Northern & Sputhen Borders. No big deal.
also remind people that until 1915, passports and border controls didn‘t exist in Europe.
“also remind people that until 1915, passports and border controls didn‘t exist in Europe.”
For the US, passports weren’t required until 1947 — except at the Mexican and Canadian borders, where they weren’t required until after 9/11.
Good point – true
I believe that people are reacting somewhat to the structural issues at the border where people are released on their own recognizance to appear in court at some later date.
My impression is that there are – and have been for some time now – insufficient resources available to process the sheer number of people crossing the border, a situation which is inherently unfair to those who come to the US legally, and who follow the laws related to immigration.
Also I suspect that not all of them have come here to work on our roofs any more than the vast majority of Ukrainian citizens came to western Europe to do their laundry. Rather, I suspect that most of those crossing the southern border are escaping intolerable living and dangerous conditions within their own countries.
The only relevant law related to immigration is the US Constitution’s clear an unambiguous prohibition on the federal government regulating immigration.
Well, that's moot, don't you think? I view the entire history of the USA as speckled with exceptions to the spirit and letter of the Constitution.
I agree that the Constitution is "moot" in that the government ignores it whenever it seems inconvenient.
But it's always worth pointing out what the actual law is.
Labor costs regulate the immigration permit numbers. Cui bono?
Always a worrying factor is that Jerusalem is a holy site for Muslims, whereas Israel has no problem wasting any other place in the world.
Holy for Christians too. 40% of Palestians worldwide are Christians
A majority of Arab Americans are Christians
Hmmm
When Israel "de-escalates" with escalation, US doesn't bat an eye. Once Iran does the same, it's suddenly escalation.
Poor Israel, it is always the victim.
Had the Biden Admin continued to enforce the Trump oil sanctions, none of this would be happening.
Biden kept the "sanctions" but dropped the enforcement.
The renewed oil revenue went to rearming Hama/Hezbollah
resulting in more war.
The likely solution now is for the US to restore sanctions enforcement thereby sparing Iranian's oil infrastructure from total destruction which would increase oil revenue for —Russia.
Revenue to Iran is financing endless ME war.
A little history, see, listen and think and then judge.
Or Trump could have refrained from dropping out of the JCPOA and engaged in further diplomacy with Iran and none of this would be happening. But instead, he stuck his nose up Israel's ass with nothing but belligerence towards Iran from the very beginning of his presidency including his sword dancing orb rubbing anti Iran visit to that bastion of democracy, Saudi Arabia.
What is the USA afraid of? Trump implemented sanctions, assassinations, broke agreements, started trade wars. He is as belligerent a war monger as bad as Biden, he treated friends and foe like enemies. He did get his tax cuts for the upper class, which helped to redistribute wealth from the shrinking working middle class to the upper class. What exactly did he do for the American people?
It is all about the American upper class first, not American people first.
Oil sanctions were to protect the oil industry's profit, the expensive American fragging LG needs protection.
Trump dumping the JCPOA = no money for war.
Biden sucking up to Iran = constant war in the ME.
Keeping SA on the sidelines works,
the proof, ME peace.
That's just flat ass ridiculous. Iran had a moderate leader who was willing to talk peace with the West. Trump was fulfilling his obligations to his donor Sheldon Adelsen with his over the top ass kissing of Israel by dropping out of the JCPOA. Trump never gave diplomacy a chance or even a thought. While the constant war in the ME is Biden sucking up to Israel, not Iran. And "keeping SA on the sidelines" isn't proof of anything, especially your idea of peace. Israel wasn't pushing the US to go to war with Saudi Arabia for the last 30 + years. That would be Iran.
Four years, Trump had peace, proof is in the result.
The result was a lesser status quo than what he was handed when he took office. He made the powder keg worse than it was with his gifting of Israel. There was no "peace" before he took office or after he left office. Peace means people getting along. It doesn't mean coexisting with each while their fingers are on triggers.
“He made the powder keg worse …”
They weren’t shooting then, they sure as hell are shooting now.
No “lesser status quo”.
Really? Was Trump president in 2019?
The Gaza–Israel clashes (November 2019) code-named by Israel as Operation Black Belt (Hebrew: מבצע חגורה שחורה), took place between the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) following the targeted killing of senior PIJ commander Baha Abu al-Ata in Gaza, and the attempted killing of senior PIJ commander Akram al-Ajouri in Damascus, Syria by the IDF.
And did him killing the Iranian general make things calmer in the region? And how about gifting Israel the Golan Heights and recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capitol? Did that bring the Israeli's and Palestinians closer to peace? Or maybe the yard sale of F-35's that were called the Abraham Accords? Now compare that to the situation he inherited. The JCPOA was the NPT on steroids but that wasn't good enough for Trump. So scrapping it and imposing maximum pressure sanctions was meant as a peace overture? But sure, let's pretend that what Trump did during his 4 years brought peace and stability to the region. Just like his selling lethal weapons to Ukraine, which Obama wouldn't, made the Ukraine/Russia situation so much better (/s).
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/10/04/how_to_blow_up_the_middle_east_war_in_five_easy_steps_151731.html
In a word, theocratic Iran — the nexus of almost all current Middle East terrorism and conflict — was unleashed by Team Biden after having been neutered by the Trump administration.
And you give me a link with this bullshit as proof that there was no shooting when Trump was president? Why didn't you just give me Lindsey Graham's opinion? Iran was in full compliance with the JCPOA when Trump ripped it up. He started the whole fucking mess by doing that.
Revenue for Iran is revenue for ME war.
Which is as obvious as your anti-Israel bias reigning supreme over any everything else —including more war.
Ripping up agreements and applying maximum pressure sanctions to the country in full compliance isn't exactly an attempt at peace. And the outdoor prison called Gaza was going to explode sooner or later and the JCPOA "revenue" wasn't the reason it happened when it did. Besides, Qatar supports Hamas much more than Iran so trying to blame this on Iran is just nonsense.
I base how I feel about Irael on what Israel has done in the last year. Call it bias if you like. I can run down the numbers if you would like, but it's already apparent that you aren't paying attention to the numbers. I'll just put it this way, if Iran had done what Israel has done over the last year, they would be a parking lot right now. But that's farfetched I know. Because Iran would have never been ALLOWED to do what Israel has done over the last year. So, don't accuse me of wanting more war until Israel stops butchering people.
Based on the US/ISRAEL public response, the Iranians must have done a super job on the Israeli military targets.
If the Americans had provided decisive, effective help they would tell it, screaming from the roof tops. But what we see and hear is a big silence. Did the Iranians destroy civilian targets?
THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT!!!!
Yes, it is our fight too, the ME is were the oil is, that is why the Israelis can extort the Americans. Libya, Iraq, Iran, the Arab Emirates, that is where the money and power is and the shipping routes.
The US hegemon wants to keep it that way, but the demented rulers in DC and Tel Aviv are on the lose and the real problem.
“the ME is were the oil is”
Of the top ten oil-producing countries, only five are in the Middle East and only two are in the top five.
The largest oil producer in the world, as of last year, was the United States. Russia was second, Saudi Arabia third, Canada fourth, Iraq fifth.
If the Middle East disappeared tomorrow, the US would have all the oil it needed, plus plenty to export.
If you say so.
It’s not about whether I say so. Reuters says so. Nasdaq says so. Associated Press says so. And them saying so is in turn based on industry/government production statistics.
Oil is certainly a major factor in US involvement in the Middle East. Conflict there keeps prices high enough for US production to be profitable and for Arab production to be MORE profitable. If Israel didn’t exist, the Arab petro-regimes would have to invent some other conflict point to keep those prices up.
You are the product of decades of brainwashing, it is called hasbara aka propaganda, the bully is made the victim, and you are like the believer of an ingrained religion.
The preachers of your religion are evil on par with Hitler.
Not exactly true my friend… The United States does not have the Oil Refinery Capacity to supply all that we need. That's the primary issue. All of the oil means nothing if you can't refine it, or enough of it when you need it. Hence the reason we import petroleum products into the U.S. even though we have enough reserves to be self sufficient. So if the middle east disappeared tomorrow, there would be a shortage of some Petroleum Products that are usually refined and produced outside of the U.S.
The reason the US doesn’t have the oil refinery capacity to supply all that it needs is that a lot of its crude gets exported (and some of its refinery capacity is for export goods rather than domestic consumption).
A shortage of refined oil products for import would simply result in:
1) Existing refinery capacity being put to profitable domestic rather than export use; and
2) Addtional investment in refinery capacity.
Would there be a temporary shortage? Of course — just like when a food plant I worked out had a temporary shortage of mustard seed when one supplier’s workers went on strike, and it took a few days to get another supplier sending railcars full of it our way. And just like it installed several new large-capacity storage tanks and a new battery of mills when the other factories making its product (French’s mustard) were shut down.
That is what they want, control over all the global resources and the global economy.
"There will be consequences," that is what the Iranians also said.
No surprise at all.
State Department needs to be renamed War Department. Diplomacy is a forbidden word there.
Not forbidden. Nonexistent.
Right on cue, Brian Berletic is back with another report on the same Brookings Institute report he has been pointing to for a long time. That report lays out the US plan to start a war with Iran in excruciating detail. It proves that everything happening now has been planned – and all reports about the US "not wanting a wider war" are complete bullshit.
Washington Sets Trap for Iran, Will Iran Take the Bait?
CrossTalk: After Nasrallah
"What is the state and future of the Resistance movement challenging Israel? With the Gaza genocide continuing unabated and Hezbollah's leaders decimated, what are some choices facing Iran? Is Israel getting its wish for a regional war?
CrossTalking with Mohammad Marandi and Mouin Rabbani.
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/605068-middle-east-regional-war/
Direct link to the video if you want to download it:
https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2024.10/66fc575685f5403eb76c41e8.mp4
Brian covers in an article what he covered in his Youtube channel.
Washington Sets Trap for Iran, Will Iran Take the Bait?
Brian Berletic, September 24
https://journal-neo.su/2024/09/24/washington-sets-trap-for-iran-will-iran-take-the-bait/
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So, basically we are all f-cked!
My ‘end of the world’ cocktail is a Black Russian.
What a dreadfully incompetent and bloodthirsty bunch of losers we have running foreign affairs (can't say foreign policy because there is none).
This is the worst excuse for a presidency I have witnessed in my lifetime – bar none.
Shorter: Israel gets to kill civilians including women and children, bomb cities, and carry out indiscriminate terrorist acts of violence, but according to our boy Jake, the victims of Israel's violence are supposed to shut the F up and take what's coming to them.
Added: Israel's history of assassinating people in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Iran is history, Jake, no matter how you try to ignore it. In the world we out here inhabit, Jake, acts like these are considered grounds for retaliation, period.
Jake, you're defending the indefensible – not a good look.