Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told The New York Times on Tuesday that he will urge the leaders of the US, the UK, and France to support long-range strikes inside Russia, a step that would make a direct NATO-Russia war much more likely.
The Ukrainian leader is currently in New York for the UN General Assembly and will meet with President Biden at the White House on Thursday. “For today, they have to give, or say that they will not give,” Zelensky said in an interview conducted at the UN in New York. “Do they really want us to prevail, or is it about something long, some terrible and long tragedy?”
While the US has yet to give Ukraine the greenlight for long-range strikes with NATO missiles inside Russia, some NATO countries have been outspoken in their support for the escalation.
Zelensky was interviewed alongside Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, who strongly supports letting Ukraine do what it wants with NATO weapons. “I don’t think Ukraine can win with one arm on their back,” she told The New York Times.
“So I think we need to end that discussion, to give what is needed, and actually to put it the other way around — ask Ukraine what is needed to win this war. And then we have to ensure that they will have what they need,” Frederiksen added.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that supporting long-range strikes on Russian territory would mean NATO is at war with Russia. A direct NATO-Russia war could quickly turn nuclear, but the risk of nuclear war is not part of Ukraine’s calculations.
The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that the concerns over the risk of nuclear war are “mocked” inside Ukraine. The report said Ukrainian officials were growing increasingly frustrated over the US’s hesitation to support long-range strikes.
“We think the permission should be granted yesterday, not today or tomorrow,” a Ukrainian official told the Post. “Otherwise, the phrase ‘We want to see Ukraine as strong as possible for any scenario’ looks like total BS.”
US officials have said even if they approve the long-range strikes, Ukraine doesn’t have enough of the US-provided ATACM missiles or British and French-provided Storm Shadows to make a difference in its fight against Russia. The US has also said that Russia has moved most of its fighter jets beyond the range of the NATO missiles.
The Times of London reported last week that Zelensky may get permission to fire Storm Shadow missiles into Russian territory while he’s in the US this week, but it wouldn’t become public until the first missile hits Russia.
the un-elected ex-president might discuss how the failed 404 plans to re-pay its 168 billion in debts
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This zelboy wants nuclear wwiii which would end in 24 hours…! Be aware…!
He is an ugly, corrupt, bloodsucking parasite, living large on another country’s tax dollars, while sacrificing his own people’s lives in service of the same.
He'll most likely die of lead poisoning.
Couple quotes of distinct interest, from the article by young Theodore Snider on TAC linked on antiwar's main page today :
"(Zelenskiyy) says also that, for the plan to succeed, it needs to be approved and implemented before Biden leaves office."
That is DEEPLY suspicious – like a dodgey adult child insisting their elderly, fading parent sign off on an updated Will before the care nurse arrives.
"Russia went to war to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO; they are not going to end the war to allow it."
And I am money-betting CERTAIN that a future peace deal that ends this war and promises Ukraine will never join NATO, will be violated when NATO and Kiev find the first instant to quietly and secretly join together. The Russian Federation HAS to know it's only guarantee of a trustworthy postwar Ukraine is one in which a Belarussian-style leader sits on Emperor Zelenskiyy's vacated throne.
Maybe Biden can sign his will over to Zelensky, as he suffers elder abuse.
Zelenskiyy is totally playing the “I’m your grandson, can you give me $600 to fix my car?” con job that remains one of the most common scams targeting seniors.
Man, you just hate Ukrainians.
This site is like a meeting spot for communists.
I guess if enough people say that Russia is bluffing, the Krenlin could be smoldering ash and they still wouldn't use their nukes. Again, it's hard to prove them wrong and they don't have to worry about hearing "I told you so" because we'll all be dead.
The neocons are always "right" until they are proved wrong, and then their response is "it's too late now, we have to stay on course".
I agree. Russia is ready to go full.
the world is better without America.
Your politicians are a bunch of neo nazis.
cope harder
I find it absurd that the argument is framed as "the US LETTING Ukraine use their missiles for deep strikes" as opposed to "the US military actively conducting deep strikes using US weapons and targeting software, into Russia on behalf of Ukraine".
Shallow, ignorant people might support the first position, but virtually no one will support the second.
So First, the media (and politicians, but they are all paid-for imbeciles anyway) misrepresents the issue; then they go out and "poll" the public to "prove" that the "American people "support" such "common sense moves" in order to pressure the decision makers.
Goebbels had nothing on these scumbags.
Framing the narrative … our specialty for a hundred years …
I bet the Ukrainians didn't even have the decency to file off the serial numbers, repaint the missiles (I would guess to red, black, and white, the "Banderite palette") and/or slap a Ukrainian flag decal over the American one.
You sound like critical thinker. Why do you hate Ukraine so much?
If you are Russian I understand, but if you live in America, why so much hatred? The banderites are no worse than all the Neo NAzis that live in Russia.
Do you really believe there are Neo Nazi groups in Ukraine big enough to have any impacts in politics?
You write like a child.
a non ukrainian educated on my country…. wow
never had i thought
Lets play Spin the Wheel of Putintard Rhetoric
Muh Nyooks!
Muh FAFO!
Muh Don't Poke the Bear!
Muh WW3!
Muh Poopin's Red Lines!
Muh Pootaine Is Taking Off the Gloves!
muh toilet that dont flush xaxa
Be patient my friend.
Russia will exterminate those imbecile Americans.
There will be peace once and for all.
But dont be weak. Speak your mind. Support your side.
That's doubly absurd; first, "annihilation" of Americans will result in the mutual annihilation of Russians. I am in favor of neither. Americans need to get rid of the resident imbeciles ourselves, through the ballot box; and through enforcing our own laws. My "side" is that of peace, common sense, and pragmatism.
cute
are you actually russian
I noticed you dance around the edges with Dmitri with your posts. Be brave, this is the comment section, not the eastern front.
hm
Lets play Spin the Wheel of Putintard Rhetoric
Muh Nyooks!
Muh FAFO!
Muh Don't Poke the Bear!
Muh WW3!
Muh Poopin's Red Lines!
Muh Pootaine Is Taking Off the Gloves!
Wow; that was some stupid, That all you got, Child?
From the 22:30-29:00 timeline, Scott Ritter expounds on America's nuclear preemption strategy.
He posits that Russia could launch non-nuclear missiles against Washington, London, Brussels, Berlin, et al., with widespread damage.
I interpret that as the ultimate missile warning barrage—a potential harbinger of something worse emanating from the Russian MoD.
For Washington to retaliate with nuclear missile launches is beyond the pale or mind-numbing.
But, like the Russian Federation, wouldn't NATO interpret inbound ballistics as "probably almost certainly nuclear" and reply accordingly ? Nuclear Deterrent on either side never relied on "wait & see".
NATO is weak. Russia will end it very soon.
NATO and US will beg for negotiations once we launch our strategic attack.
Just be prepared to pick your side.
Do you really think you’re fooling anyone? You’re about as Russian as I am Indonesian. The difference is that I don’t go around trying to convince people I’m Indonesian in hope of convincing them that Indonesians are stupid.
You have to admit though, that hammer and the sickle avatar is a nice touch.
cute!
The US doesn't have an air defense system to counter Russian hypersonic missiles. The Russians have a superior AD complex that will destroy American nuclear-tipped missiles. An exception could be the Trident II launched from US submarines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UGM-133_Trident_II
US surface-to-surface and air-to-surface launched nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Bulgaria, Germany, and Romania will shorten the time to target impact affecting Russia's lone vulnerability in a hastened air defense response.
We have a "wait and see" conventional war-cum-nuclear response in progress, in the opinion of many. It's an existential fight between good (Russia) and evil (NATO, America).
Do we dare ask, "How will it end?"
William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, author, and commentator. He is a convicted child sex offender.
What do the last three have to do with his qualifications to address the issues in question?
A really good article posted below at Antiwar:
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/victoria-nuland-counters-her-own-state-propaganda/
The critical importance of it is that it completely destroys the argument the Euro and American nuts like the Danish PM use of "if you don't stop Pootyput at Ukraine, he'll be knocking on Nato's door next."
And then there's this:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/09/no_author/european-union-morphs-into-natos-financial-war-machine/
It's BS; they know it's BS; and that's why they think Putin is bluffing and they can just keep shilling for more $$$$$.
Funding the Ukraine govt at $1 Billion/month is NOT "America First". We need to throw these Warmongers out: https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1838269287439478884?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Thanks to Ukraine, The US is now saving money on future military investments/budget since they know Russia is not all that great. A few billions are saving trillions over next decades.
The next time the US reduces its military budget because a supposed adversary turns out to have not been as scary as previously supposed will be the first time.
Seriously? The supposed reason why “Russia must be stopped” is that they would never stop at just Ukraine. Otherwise, who the hell would really care? But it was always nonsense, as you know.
Here it is: The Exorcist may be able to extract the evil which inhabits the American body politic.
Perhaps he can extract the evil Voldemort Zelensky from America.
US must get out of Ukraine – Trump
Washington risks getting stuck in another ‘forever war’, the former president has argued
The United States needs a clear exit strategy for the Ukraine conflict, Donald Trump has told supporters at a campaign rally, insisting that neither his Democratic rival Kamala Harris nor President Joe Biden has any such plan.
“Biden and Kamala got us into this war in Ukraine, and now they can't get us out. They can't get us out,” the former president told the crowd in Savannah, Georgia, on Tuesday, reiterating his promise to end the conflict immediately if he is re-elected.
“I think that we're stuck in that war unless I'm president. I'll get it done. I'll negotiate; I’ll get us out. We gotta get out. Biden says, ‘We will not leave until we win,’” Trump claimed.
“What happens if the Russians win? That’s what they do – they fight wars. As someone told me the other day, they beat Hitler; they beat Napoleon. That’s what they do. They fight. And it’s not pleasant,” Trump said.
At another campaign rally on Monday, the Republican candidate claimed that Vladimir Zelensky wants Harris to win “so badly” because, as long as Democrats remain in power, the Ukrainian leader walks away with $60 billion every time he comes to the US.
Zelensky is currently in the US, where he is expected to meet with President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and members of Congress to present them with his “victory plan,” which reportedly revolves around forcing Moscow into submission.
Ukrainian officials also claimed that Zelensky had planned to see Trump. However, a Trump campaign official told AP that no such meeting has been scheduled.
During Zelensky’s visit, the US intends to announce another $375 million batch of military aid to Ukraine, AP reported on Tuesday evening, citing anonymous sources in Washington. The package would include missiles for HIMARS launchers, cluster bombs for Ukrainian fighter jets, and other ammunition, which will come out of the US military stockpiles.
By the Pentagon’s account, the US has provided Ukraine over $56 billion in direct military aid since February 2022. In April, the US approved a $61 billion military assistance package for Kiev after months of opposition by some Republicans. Ukrainian officials are concerned that Trump could cut the flow of military aid.
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/
90 Seconds to d-day!
How is the BAS clock set as high as 90 seconds ???
”This is your rifle, this is your gun…, This is for fighting and this is for fun!…”
Not getting my backside fragged for anyone!
Very funny!!!
You would do the same if your country was invaded by a super power attacking your people and taking your land.
One day, you communists will experience that.
https://youtu.be/ndhJvt3UzzA?si=mPyww0myscRrDo_P
Here are two of my go to guys discussing the current circus in New York.
Launching US or UK missiles into Russia is a bad idea.
Ukrainians and Zelensky need to realize "Screw Around and Find Out" – FAFO!
Imagine if Russia tried to place missiles in our backyard, say Cuba for example. Would there be a problem?
We can imagine that. I can also imagine Russia is not stupid.
William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, author, and commentator. He is a convicted child sex offender.
Yes, he is convicted of sex offenses. That means that any sane rational analysis must be discounted. The messenger has a blemish so the delivery of a message is also tainted?
So, eliminate Scott Ritter, but then we have a dozen other professors, CIA analysts, retired senior military officers saying the same things.
American, UK, and NATO NEOCON warmongers are hastening the extinction of life on earth with their push for World War III.
Lets play Spin the Wheel of Putintard Rhetoric
yes its time/……………………
Muh Nyooks!
Muh FAFO!
Muh Don't Poke the Bear!
Muh WW3!
Muh Poopin's Red Lines!
Muh Pootaine Is Taking Off the Gloves!
Just saw a feed from BBC:
“Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has told the United Nations that Russia is planning deeper attacks on his country's nuclear power plants, warning of possible "nuclear disaster".
He said he had received intelligence showing Moscow was using satellites provided by other countries to gather information about Ukraine's nuclear infrastructure.”
But I thought he had a victory plan? Or is he saying this because he’s all poopy-pants because he couldn’t secure the NPP in Kursk?
More laughable is that the author saw it fit to report on Russia using other countries intelligence for Ukrainian nuclear infrastructure.
I really don’t think they need help with this.
Good entertainment value though…
"Screw Around and Find Out" – FAFO!
Just to be clear, just as America has a doctrine for use of nuclear weapons so does Russia. Both sides have ratcheted and loosened up their terms for use of nuclear weapons.
Here is the new Russian doctrine: If Ukraine is allowed to attack Russia with any weapons supplied by NATO or targeting is provided by America.
Dmitry Medvedev writes:
The event that was expected
The Russian President outlined approaches to the new edition of the Fundamentals of State Policy in the Sphere of Nuclear Deterrence. The main changes are as follows.
1. Aggression against Russia by a state that does not possess nuclear weapons, but with the support or participation of a country with nuclear weapons, will be considered a joint attack. Everyone understands which countries we are talking about.
2. Equivalent nuclear protection will be established for Belarus as our closest ally. To the "delight" of Poland and numerous NATO pygmies.
3. A massive launch and crossing of our border by enemy air and space weapons, including aircraft, missiles and UAVs, under certain conditions may become grounds for the use of nuclear weapons. A reason to think not only for the rotten neo-Nazi regime, but also for all of Russia's enemies who are pushing the world toward a nuclear catastrophe.
It is clear that each situation that gives grounds to resort to nuclear protection must be assessed in conjunction with other factors, and the decision to use nuclear weapons will be made by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
However, the very change in the regulatory conditions for the use of the nuclear component by our country can cool the ardor of those opponents who have not yet lost their sense of self-preservation.
Well, for the thick-headed, only the Roman maxim will remain: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare ("Because Jupiter thunders in heaven we have always believed that he is king there").