Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky arrived in the US on Sunday and is set to hold separate meetings this week with President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and former President Donald Trump.
Zelensky is expected to present the president and the two presidential candidates with his so-called “victory plan.” He will also be holding meetings with other world leaders as they gather for the UN General Assembly in New York.
“In the United States, Ukraine will present its Plan for Victory, and the US President will be the first to see it in full,” Zelensky said in a statement ahead of his arrival in the US.
“I will also present the Plan for Victory to all leaders of partner countries who, like President Biden, are world leaders and can become leaders of peace by helping us with the Plan for Victory. We will also present it to Congress – to both parties and both US presidential candidates,” he added.
Zelensky’s first stop in the US was a visit to an ammunition factory in Scranton, Pennsylvania. “I visited a plant that manufactures 155 mm artillery shells. Now, for our warriors who are defending not only our country, not only Ukraine, the plant will be ramping up production,” Zelensky wrote on X.
Zelensky was joined at the factory by Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who was in the running to be Harris’s pick for vice president before she chose Minnesota Governor Tim Walze. Both Zelensky and Shapiro signed artillery shells at the plant.
“We must all do our part in the fight for freedom — from the workers in Scranton who make Pennsylvania the arsenal of democracy to the brave Ukrainian soldiers protecting their country,” Shapiro wrote in an X post that included a video of him signing a shell.
During his time in the US, Zelensky will be pushing for US support to launch long-range strikes inside Russia using NATO missiles, a step that would mark a significant escalation of the proxy war and make a direct NATO-Russia war much more likely. The Times reported last week that Zelensky might get the green light to fire British-provided Storm Shadow missiles into Russia, but it’s not expected to be announced publicly.
Some time ago I saw a voting map of Ukraine. This is a seriously divided country.
By weird coincidence (not a coincidence) the voting map curiously mirrors the ethnic Russian east half of Ukraine that was under siege by the NATO stooge western half of Ukraine.
Almost like two nations jammed up inside one country…
Never mind. That was just some of that Russian propaganda that you didn't know you were seeing. /s
Oh, crap – just realized my glasses weren’t set to “Reds, Reds Everywhere !!!”.
There’s my problem right there.
If the USA TRULLY kept to its promises of "human rights and freedom", an arrest warrant for Big Z would have been awaiting his arrival! Ditto for the Butcher of Israel Nutty Yahoo!
nuh uh
So…when Russia uses a handful of trolls to target a single GOP demographic, it threatens my democracy! When Zelensky travels on a campaign stop, with msm media in tow, glorifying the event, shrugs are apropos.
Is that right, our dear democracy savers?
Except the first thing wasn't true. And it isn't. What was true and true widely beyond said GOP demographic that American voters didn't need any more motivation to elect Trump or to abstain in absolute disgust than the threat of a Hillary Clinton administration.
But that is all bread and circuses for the hoi polloi anyway, this erroneous notion that the US is in it's own disastrously flawed way still a democracy, but those days of makebelief are over.
It was true that there were trolls, but there is no evidence that they had any effect on voters. You misread my intentions.
Ah okay, thanks for clarifying that.
They characterized it as “massive”, it wasn’t, but their results speak for themselves in the study:
Exposure to Russian Twitter Campaigns in 2016 Presidential Race Highly Concentrated, Largely Limited to Strongly Partisan Republicans
GTFO Zelensky. Why didnt you sign those missiles with your weewee?
His signature would be in the presidential candidates' handwriting.
hahaha
When I was a kid, I never dreamt that I would be feverishly cringing from observing bomb signing ceremonies. This is becoming As American As Apple Pies. They're binging on signing BOMBS! I'm binging on CRINGE!
I can't for the life me understand this phenomenon either. It just seems the consequence of a seriously debilitating mental illness.
Spot on. My youth was filled with the thoughts of getting Ernie Banks' (Cubs) signature on a baseball. Now those thoughts will be tarnished with the thoughts of scum like Shapiro and Haley signing bombs.
Did…did you ever get his signature ? Mr. Cubs's ?
Nope. I did get to see him play though. My dad got my spirits up about getting autographs, but we never got close. I wanted "sweet swinging" Billy Williams and Ron Santo's too. What the hell dad?
I'm starting to believe in DEMONS. If they're not DEMONS, why would they be putting their signatures on BOMBS?
"Zelensky’s first stop in the US was a visit to an ammunition factory in Scranton, Pennsylvania." I don't think it would have been his FIRST STOP, if it weren't for Pennsylvania's Governor. Let that SINK IN!
Zelenskiyy thought he was going to see the Dunder Mifflin office & maybe meet Michael Scott, his leadership role model.
The "Plan for Political Survival" is the correct name. Zelensky wants to start a NATO-Russia war by using missiles fired by British officers, directed by U.S. satellites. British missiles with U.S. parts. In the world wreckage he hopes he will survive somehow, perhaps set up an exile government in London. Whereas if the war goes on as it does right now, Russia will definitely break the Ukrainian army, where many are now barely trained 50-year-olds.
Russia has just entered Vuhledar in the south-western Donbass. A fortress town on a height. It holds mythological importance to the Ukrainians because Russia didn't take it before. They're doing so right now. Russia has also entered Chasov Yar in north-western Donbass, and in between they are drawing closer to Pokrovsk, which gets the supplies and troops from western Ukraine via highway and railroad. The only thing slowing them down is removing the mines the Ukrainians throw out everywhere, and it takes time to bomb trenches to bits even when the number of conscripts in them is only 30% of what it used to be.
https://x.com/i/status/1838546924938444882
Maybe he should just declare victory and run.
I love everything about this !
The king has no cloths on, Joey Biden is a senile loser, and Voldemort Zelensky increasingly resembling Adolf in his last days.
"Trump drops a bombshell, suggesting he won’t tolerate Zelensky's approach if re-elected."
Ukraine has lost around 600,000 dead and at least 400,000 maimed for life. Their army is on the verge of collapse.
If anyone plays chess it is a metaphor for politics and warfare. Each piece has a point value.
When a player finds that there are overwhelming odds against them, they resign or in another parlance they surrender. To continue playing invites loss of more and more pieces and is a waste of time.
Too bad Voldemort Zelensky is an armature who doesn't know when to surrender before more of his citizens are dead.
Voldemort Zelensky more and more resembles Adolf in the final days of the battle for Berlin.
“Ukraine has lost around 600,000 dead and at least 400,000 maimed for life.”
Interesting claim. Got a source for it?
“Their army is on the verge of collapse.”
I suppose that might be true. But then again you’ve been saying it on a daily basis for 2 1/2 years now, so I wouldn’t bet money on your predictive powers.
I’m still waiting for them to arrive at Odessa. At this right, I’m guessing they may arrive by my fourth or fifth child. Maybe we’ll make a day trip out of it
Time will tell.
In your case, much the same way as with a broken watch.
Perhaps
lol thats the RUSSIAN CASULTIES
GET YOUR SCOURCE RIGHT NOT SO CRITICAL THINKER
Once upon a time there was a young boy who believed in unicorns. He swore every day that they existed. The world laughed at him because in a small village the village idiot is tolerated as a poor creature who was unlucky to be born brainless.
Thanks for sharing the early notes for your autobiography. I look forward to finding it in the cutout bin at my local Barnes & Noble.
This is petty and unbecoming of a "moderator". You're supposed to uphold standards. Even set an example. Instead you are subverting them.
I uphold the actual standards, not your fantasy of what the standards should be.
Evidently my “fantasy” standards are higher than your personal standards.
I have much admiration for mr. Knapp and his moderation standards and practice. They are far superior to everything I've come across to date on any sort of forum of either rightist or leftist signature, despite their often very ambitiously stated commitment to free speech. I know for certain he's far better at it than I could ever hope to be.
But however much admirably the standards he strives for and brings into practice, I would say very principled, I strongly suspect he's human like the rest of us and sometimes the fact of life is that people irk other people, rub them the wrong way. And sometimes this causes some of us to do or say unfortunate things that aim to release some of that build up irritation in a preferably humorful and clever way. Sometimes then it isn't. I for sure am irked by some people and missed target often, many times embarrassingly so. And I absolutely irk other people and if for the right reasons unapologetically so.
I think that “moderator” was a bad choice of overall descriptor term for anyone with authority in online forums. But it’s become part of the language. If I chose my own job title it would be “comments janitor.”
Unlike a pre-Internet “moderator,” I am not here to preside over a meeting, or to arbitrate disputes, or to refereee debates, as pre-Internet-forum use of the term “moderator” might imply.
My job is to enforce specific guidelines by deleting violations of those guidelines and warning or banning the violators.
That’s it. That’s all.
I’m the janitor. When someone vomits on the floor, I clean it up and, if it becomes clear that they’re always vomiting on the floor because they’re alcoholics who are always drunk and refuse to get sober, escort them out.
I don’t get paid to not have opinions of my own, or to not express those opinions, or to be some kind of “hey, now, everyone, why don’t we just all calm down” scold, etc. I get paid to enforce the site’s guidelines.
Yeah, don't embrace the "Moderator" title. Absolute s**t humans on Reddit carry that name, and have ruined the word probably permanently. There it means "neckbeard who deletes opinions contrary to his own and bans people for funsies."
"Comment Custodian" ? Very dignified ! Much better suited here.
I don't do Reddit, but I thought they were called "redditors" Or is that something else and there are also "moderators?"
fly, fly, russkie bot! Fly into the wind!
A Ukrainian hiding in university accusing an American citizen of being a bot for expressing thoughts through free speech on an American web site.
You see, in tyrannical Ukraine only speech approved by the dictator and his henchman is allowed.
you’re an american?
jaja I knew it! The knowledge of geopolitics among americans is horrid
And I am not hiding, ill be in the war in like 10 months now
counting the days
Hope that you end up on the front lines ASAP. Too bad Ukraine will not exist in 10 months.
As for geopolitics: Hatreds and myopic worldviews are not intelligent, but sadly seem endemic in Ukrainians.
ha we won’t exist in 10 months?
I remember Putin saying we wound’t exist by 2023.
Or even a week
You’re beyond ridiculous
Even the west thought we’d be dead by now. Bollocks on you
Keep tilting at windmills Don Quixote of La Lviv: While you cower in a university the world is passing you by.
Very soon Kiev will be Russian again and Odessa of course!
Right now Kyiv and Odesa are very much Ukrainian.
Making them Russian would include mass deportations, cleansing, or forced demographic change to make them just half Russian.
Is that what you want? Or do you just expect us to pack our bags and close up shop?
Since most of Eastern Ukraine is inhabited by ethnic Slavic Russians most of the population will remain in their homes and workplaces. Until the end of World War One all of Eastern Ukraine including Odessa and Kiev where part of the Russian empire.
The inhabitants of Easten Ukraine are Slavic Russians; the people your ilk tried to ethnically cleans by killing over 15,000 ethnic Slavic Russians since 2014.
You must be one of the people who identify as a “Banderite” Ukrainian who traditionally live west of the Dnieper River and who joined the Nazi SS in the 1940s.
If you are not a “Banderite” Ukrainian then you are one of the other groups inhabiting Western Ukraine: Romanians, Belorussians, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Poles, Jews, or Armenians.
In any event Western Ukraine will go back to the original roots of Poland, Hungary, and Romania, while Eastern Ukraine will remain part of Russia forever!.
You poor “Banderites” will finally be gone from your brief stint of running the area formerly known as Ukraine!
A caution, CT – under his own TLK Doctrine, your opponent reserves the right to ignore the Logical Law of Non-Contradiction.
He's content to accept any & all simultaneous legal definitions of a word, even when doing so makes the word functionally useless in conversation.
Be prepared for him to claim "Banderite" can & does mean anyone who IS a Banderite AND also anyone who isn't. Because 'Every Dictionary Says So', I guess ?
Is it just ME noticing that words mean what they mean instead of whatever you demand they start/stop meaning that chaps your ass, or do you react that way to EVERYONE who prefers English to UncleSapienese?
Erudite, thank you for the input.
Since most of Eastern Ukraine is inhabited by ethnic Slavic Russians most of the population will remain in their homes and workplaces. Until the end of World War One all of Eastern Ukraine including Odessa and Kiev where part of the Russian empire.
The inhabitants of Easten Ukraine are Slavic Russians; "Banderites" tried to ethnically cleans by killing over 15,000 ethnic Slavic Russians since 2014.
"Banderite" Ukrainians traditionally live west of the Dnieper River and joined the Nazi SS in the 1940s.
If some people are not a "Banderite" Ukrainian then they are one of the other groups inhabiting Western Ukraine: Romanians, Belorussians, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Poles, Jews, or Armenians.
In any event Western Ukraine will go back to the original roots of Poland, Hungary, and Romania, while Eastern Ukraine will remain part of Russia forever!.
"Banderites" will finally be gone from a brief stint of running the area formerly known as Ukraine!
“The inhabitants of Easten Ukraine are Slavic Russians.”
Some of them are, some of them aren’t. Excluding Crimea (58.3%), Donetsk (39%) and Luhansk (38.2%), which are unlikely to become part of Ukraine again, the highest percentage of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine is about 25%.
Yes, after ethnic cleansing which took out 15,000 plus lead to the exodus of millions of ethnic Russians to safety in Russia.
I guess fantasizing a reason for a minority is no weirder than fantasizing a majority.
You’re welcome to your fantasies, but most people aren’t going to join in them no matter how hard you stomp your feet and whine that you WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNTTTT those fantasies to be true.
1. Most of eastern Ukraine, of what is classically defined as, contains a majority of Ukrainians, with Rus making up a significant minority.
1a. Even Luhansk and Donjetsk are ore only 40% Russian, and Zaporozhia is 25, and Kherson is 15.
2. Odessa and Kyiv were still Ukrainian cities under the Rus Empire. That’s an irrefutable fact
3. Generalising all eastern/central ukraine as the “banderites” is no better than israel calling palestinians hamas
3a. We aren’t banderites. We are a people that your insignificant american mind is unaware of.
4. “Banderite” Ukrainians traditionally live west of the Dnieper River and joined the Nazi SS in the 1940s.” Ha. Not all of us joined the SS. We also joined the soviet partisans. Most of the time ,we were anti-everyone and we wanted our own state. Stop believing propoganda.
5. ?If some people are not a “Banderite” Ukrainian then they are one of the other groups inhabiting Western Ukraine: Romanians, Belorussians, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Poles, Jews, or Armenians.” All those groups are minorities. Like, extremely so. Thats like saying if you aren’t a Pole in the «very white» poland, then you’re a Spanish person. It makes no sense. 95% of eastern Ukraine is Ukrainian.
6. “In any event Western Ukraine will go back to the original roots of Poland, Hungary, and Romania, while Eastern Ukraine will remain part of Russia forever!” Original roots my azz. We are a people. We arent [ethnic slur deleted by moderator – TLK], nor romanian, nor hungarian. We are UKRAINIAN!!
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My god, I can’t believe I even have to say that
The West thought (Ukraine) would be dead already if not for NATO weapons, equipment, money, intel, training, tactical support, and goading.
uhmm
we goaded ourselves
and we got our own intel mostly
those russian ammo depots we struck? You can find them on GOOGLE MAPS
and private satilite companies publish images of them every day
so their secret military bases are o secret
Knockout punch, that right there.
His "victory plan" is actually nothing but his second fake peace summit…!
The utter nonsensical political hacks like Shapiro, and the uni-swamp are the peak of disgrace.
Sadly there are only a handful of mindful politicians like Thomas Massie who are not for sale, and who actually care about the well being of the United States.
The Zelensky "dog & pony show" is more of the same bs. that never amounts to anything but another loss for the US. on the world stage.
As the Ukrainian army has thousands of troops harvested each day "Headless Horseman" Voldemort Zelensky visits the US: President Trump refuses to meet with him and his silly circus.
Perhaps Ukraine will cease to exist on Halloween.
Trick of Treat stick a fork in him; your done Voldemort Zelensky.
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