During Tuesday night’s presidential debate, Vice President Kamala Harris falsely claimed that no US troops are currently deployed in combat zones as she traded barbs with former President Donald Trump about foreign policy issues.
“As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world, the first time this century,” Harris said.
US troops are deployed in Iraq and Syria under the anti-ISIS coalition and actively participate in combat operations. Less than two weeks ago, seven US troops were wounded in a raid against a suspected ISIS hideout in Iraq.
US troops have also been injured in recent weeks by drone and rocket attacks on US bases in Iraq and Syria, which significantly ramped up last year in response to US support for Israel’s onslaught in Gaza. Back in January, three US Army Reserve soldiers from Georgia were killed by a drone attack on Tower 22, a secretive US base in Jordan on the Syrian border.
Harris made the false claim while discussing the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. She said that she agreed with President Biden’s decision to pull out but also criticized Trump for negotiating the deal that led to the withdrawal. “He bypassed the Afghan government. He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban,” she said.
Trump defended the deal, calling it a “very good agreement” and criticized the way the Biden administration carried out the withdrawal. “These people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country,” he said.
When the genocidal war in Gaza was brought up, Trump claimed Harris “hates” Israel and that the country wouldn’t exist if she were elected. “She hates Israel. If she’s president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now. And I’ve been pretty good at predictions. And I hope I’m wrong about that one. She hates Israel. At the same time in her own way she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up, Arabs, Jewish people, Israel. Israel will be gone,” Trump said.
Harris responded by declaring her strong support for Israel. “That’s absolutely not true. I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people. He knows that. He’s trying to again divide and distract from the reality, which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy,” Harris said.
Harris also said in the debate that she would always “give Israel the ability to defend itself,” meaning US weapons shipments will continue to flow if she becomes president.
Discussing the war in Ukraine, Trump said that he would try to end it before he is sworn in. “I want the war to stop. I want to save lives that are being uselessly — people being killed by the millions. It’s the millions. It’s so much worse than the numbers that you’re getting, which are fake numbers,” he said.
Trump repeatedly blamed the invasion of Ukraine on Biden being “weak” on Russia and said both the invasion and the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel wouldn’t have happened if he were still president. Harris accused Trump of being fond of “dictators” and took a very pro-NATO line.
“Understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO. And what we have done to preserve the ability of Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians to fight for their Independence,” Harris said.
Harris claimed that if Trump were still president, Russian President Vladimir Putin would be “sitting in Kyiv right now.”
Glen Ford's "the more effective evil" in action right there … man, I dread that one of these two, but especially the airhead from my fair state of CA, will be president soon. I almost threw up as she was talking about how proud she was that they have enabled Ukraine to fight … yes, fight and lose hundreds of thousands of irreplaceable young people where they could have negotiated peace!
Why would Putin want to "sit" in Kiev anyway? He doesn't have enough space in his palace in Moscow?
Catch Stein's "rebuttal" speech for a sane view …
Never mind sit in Kiev, we better hope Putin doesn't decide to do to Kiev what Israel has done to Gaza. This is the new world order: Might makes Right.
Deciding to do something is one thing.
Actually being able to do it is another.
So far, Putin hasn’t even been able to pacify the Donbas after 2 1/2 years.
It isn’t that he’s waiting for some magical right time to bring the hammer down.
It’s that his hammer turned out to be the Fisher Price plastic toy.
More likely Putin is loathe to needlessly slaughter hundreds of thousands of fellow Slavs in a part of Ukraine he doesn’t want.
Considering how many of his own troops he lost , I just don't believe your statement.
How many did he lose and how do you know that figure?
The Russian MoD stopped making any claims as to its own casualty figures in September of 2022. But as of June, based on excess mortality reports from Russia’s Federal State Statistics Service, independent Russian media outlet estimated KIA at 71,000, that being the low end (since non-Russian-citizen deaths wouldn’t make it into those statistics).
I can only offer my sincere condolences to the American people certain to be on the losing end either way. To put a positive spin on this latest spectacle, at least it should remove all doubt about that fact.
I positively writhe in agony over the prospect of an endless era on a regime of Kalifornia Kamala happy talk word salad therapy.
Joyful genocide? Happy war? Laughing censorship? We'll have it all …
But wouldn't it be nice if the other turd didn't make one writhe in agony also?
“America first” except for Israel.
Yes, but the elite have guaranteed a Kamala win.
And? That makes Trump less of a turd?
an irrelavant turd.
They have? If that is the case, please tell the Trump voters to stay home in protest.
Harris was a city and county prosecutor before she became the attorney general of california and then a US senator and now the VP. she may or may not be a crook but she is no dummy, unlike the pretend real estate agent Trump.
but you should cast your vote as you see fit.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in Harris’s past political career. It kicked off with help from a prominent politician with whom she was romantically involved (Willie Brown), and from there it seems to have been based far more on her loyalty to the party machine and its most demanding lobbies, especially the police unions (she had a long and ugly record of ensuring that bad cops skated for violent treatment of citizens). As attorney general, she had a judge shake his head in amazement at her unfamiliarity with the First Amendment and dismiss the charges when she launched the prosecution of Backpage for accepting advertisements she disapproved of.
She is, so far as I can tell, an empty pantsuit. If her main opponent wasn’t a convicted felon who’s clearly crazy as a shithouse rat, she’d probably already be obvious toast.
ok and who is the other choice again?
does he have a full pantsuit?
Harris was a prosecutor.
She made her career on her back.
and Trump made his career on your back.
Trump success is based on finding "suckers" to follow him. Case in point, Jan 6 rioters. They attack capital and went to jail for Trump?
That is ridicules and insult to all successful woman. Grow up an realize that a woman can be just as successful as men.
It won’t because the msm will tell everyone in the US what to think.
Those of us on these small websites are a small minority.
And don’t forget, either of these two morons will be the face of global empire.
Actually, it might be good to know the antiwar readership numbers. …Never mind, Thomas. After second thoughts, I would rather not know.
I don’t know what those numbers look these days. But estimates of what percentage of readers comment in a given site’s discussion areas tend toward the sub-1% range. So I suspect we’re reasonably popular.
Good to hear. Thank you for the good news, brother!
It's refreshing to know that there's other people like us in the world.
FYI. From similarweb website. Antiwar.com has 715,000 hits last month. 48% from the USA, 23 % from Canada and 18% from the UK.
These numbers rank antiwar as 93,308 globally, 32,780 in the USA and 1,600 as news organization.
I don't have any idea how 715,000 hits would translate to number of readers. Each time a website gets a request for a package of information that is as counted as a hit. So a single reader could generated 100s of hit in a short session.
We Americans know what it was like under President Trump and what it is like under the Harris-Biden regime. People should vote accordingly.
Yes, they should.
But they probably won’t. If they did, neither Trump nor Harris would get any significant number of votes.
We know it is going to be either Harris or Trump under our political two party system. So voting third party is basically throwing your vote away. We’ve got two choices. Vote accordingly.
Your choices:
A. Guy who has already sold his soul to the Devil
B. Lady who is about to
The Lady has been in power for the last 4 years. By her own admission making decisions as “the last person in the room”.
She's been one heart attack away from power for the last four years.
Since you have a better chance of winning the Mega Millions jackpot two weeks in a row than you do of casting the deciding vote in your state in a presidential election, with similar chances of that state also being the decisive electoral vote caster in that election, your vote is meaningless with respect to exercising political power. Its only plausible utility is as speech, the expression of your preferences. Casting it in a vain and silly attempt to decide which of two candidates you don’t prefer beats the other isn’t just “basically” throwing your vote away, it’s throwing your vote away period.
The statistical election polls with their mathematical, stochastic approaches show a high accuracy of a future election result. This means that it makes no difference if 2000, 20000, 200000, 2000000, 20000000, or 200000000 citizens vote. The law of large numbers exposes the individual vote with its weight in the overall result. The fewer people vote, the greater the weight of the individual vote.
Problem: Republican, conservative voters are likely to be more inclined to participate in a ballot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers
https://www.probabilitycourse.com/chapter7/7_1_1_law_of_large_numbers.php
https://xaktly.com/ProbStat_LargeNumbers.html
https://www.lakeheadu.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/77/images/Sedor%20Kelly.pdf The Law of Large Numbers and its Applications
https://www.marxists.org/subject/anarchism/reclus/voting.htm
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-vote-what-for
The number of deployed American troops in potential combat zones of Europe and Asia is progressively increasing those last two years.
There are in Africa , central and south America too secretly.
Escalation of hostilities with Russia and China that's what does matter.
Genocide accomplice v Genocide accomplice.
It's more like Enabler, Supporter, and Accomplice combined.
Might even be the ringleader.
EASY. "No US Troops Are Deployed in Combat Zones" because there are no "Combat Zones!" …No. …Of course it's a lie. …I'm just practicing the Jedi Mind Trick on you. Good job. You passed. But since you're the only one who responded, my trick worked on everybody else. LOL. I'm becoming a Jedi! Get lost, Obi Wan!
You have to be a sadist to willingly sit down and listen to either of those two pieces of bloody excrement.
More like a masochist. I know because I'm one. Why else would I read Antiwar everyday to enjoy my A$$ getting kicked everyday with more wars!?
You know, I was "debating" whether to use that word instead of sadist.
You can then look in your mirror and cry for the world.
It is called Weltschmerz.
I think you mean masochist. That is punishment.
Drinking game- take a shot anytime someone says "Border," "Jobs," or "Chi-na"
Keep the activated carbon handy for the alcohol poisoning.
”Lie, deny, then alibi”????
I didn't bother to watch. I'm told by acquaintances that it was a clown show. How could it be otherwise? The US political system is, and shall remain, a clown show.
Really striking that we can't come up with two candidates who don't act like complete idiots.
Sadly, the debates don't sway voters (or else Bush II NEVER would have won a 2nd term based off ANY of his debates with Kerry).
The "debates" are a popularity-contest boxing match that lets both sides claim "their" candidate "destroyed him / her !!!" absent any objective evidence. It's theatre. Reality TV with shirts on. Team Edward vs. Team Jacob and both sides are firmly set in their chosen camp, buoyed by Confirmation Bias.
I too did not watch the what they call debate between two know nothings. I take it that she was less lousy, bad than he was.
I pay attention to what Putin and Lavrov have to say and totally ignore Biden/Harris and Blinken and company they are on the same level as Scholz and the idiotic Baerbock. They know nothing and have nothing to say. They are war criminals, worse than just trash, all of them.
Lavrov spoke at the UNSR this morning, he makes sense when he speaks.
"I pay attention to what Putin and Lavrov have to say " I bet you were a communist in the past. If you like Putin soo much move to Russia.
Democratic Socialist if you can make a distinction. I don’t want to upset you, but Putin/Lavrov have always something to say, pay attention. Biden and Blinken have nothing to say, never, at best they tell convoluting lies which I do NOT appreciate, it is insulting.
Even if you don’t like Putin you should listen to what he has to say. He is a man of the people he is competent and knows the details of the issue. The Russian people do know why their sons are dying in Ukraine, he told the people why. Biden has yet to address the nation and tell us why we are in Ukraine fighting Russia with Ukrainian de facto proxy NATO soldiers and funding the Ukrainian state and no accountability where the money goes? Biden’s last press conference was when? I remember orderly press conferences, that has been a long time ago. When was the last time a government official said “no comment” instead of providing another convoluted, evasive lie?
I think Matt Taibbi did a drinking game.
Circus, Circus! Get your popcorn! Personally I'd rather watch Beavis and Butthead – you get more intelligent remarks that way.
"H-hey Beavis – are you a 'Maneater' ?"
theres no amerikans here lol
Such so-called debates are a real shame for the nation and democracy.
The results are in! We know who LOST the debate…… Us. 😑
That lie boils my blood.
The debate was an absurd theater show for the M.I.C.
Wars will continue, but Americans may be more worried about the immigrants possibly eating people's cats and dogs… (/s)
Bomb the whole world, just please dont eat Little Fido Foofoo!!!!
I don’t know how you could even watch. I thought maybe I’ll just catch the snark in comments under live streams and mute, and even that was intolerable.
I don't usually. I was curious, but only watched the first 30-45 minutes or so.
Patience of a saint.
It would have been fun if I took a shot anytime someone said the word "Border."
I know I’ll have to watch a highlights reel and/or read a transcript at some point. I’m not looking forward to it.
At least Trump has the excuse of being a senile old geezer (and now he can throw in PTSD) for all the weird-ass stream of consciousness [sic] nonsense he babbles in public. Those factors can’t explain Harris’s verbal diarrhea.
You have my sincere sympathies.
I expect a condensed report on my screen by tomorrow. …No. This short blurb is not enough. More detail is needed, but please not too much. My IQ is dropping on its own everyday. No need to make it roll down hill any faster. Thanks in advance, brother.
"…Harris's verbal diarrhea."
Probably a Gish Gallop technique on her part, suggested by her debate coaches. Overwhelm Trump with loads of statements; dual effect of provoking his scatterbrain & also later declaring that every point he didn't refute in the barrage, he either concedes or couldn't / wouldn't answer.
The Gish Gallop is a s**t technique to use in honest intellectual discourse, but it can be effective with dishonest intent.
Yes, The Donald played the immigrant flood nightmare -eating dogs & cats in Springfield, Ohio; Kamala, the abortion -flood of incest & rape babies & dead 12 yr old mothers.
I'm not sorry I missed it. In fact, I missed it intentionally, which already makes the word "missed" a confirmed lie.
Except that you missed nothing, … except the un-miss-able degeneracy and essential falsity of American democracy.
They are both below reasonable standard, still Trump is a better choice of those two.
Well, … it’s true he’s outside the deep-state club; but, trouble is, he desparately wants in. The choice is between Jill Stein and boycott.
Jill Stein has no chance. Boycott will not work.
You would be affirming a supremely vicious falsity.
Voting for someone has nothing to do with their chance of winning.
Voting for someone is about you choosing a candidate whose ideals and platform most closely aligns with yours.
Any other reason is degrees of unethical – if ethics matters to a person, that is.
“Voting for someone has nothing to do with their chance of winning.”
For certain people, it does.
The people I’m referring to are people who have trouble with math and probability calculations.
I am not advising anyone how to vote. It is only my opinion: Jill Stein has no chance.
What concerns Crimean referendum, for The West it doesn't matter how people voted, they just wanted to have American navy base in Crimea.
Everyone up for election has a chance.
Just not a big chance.
Same as with any State lottery. The odds of someone winning it are usually really good. The odds of any particular PERSON winning it, are really not good.
The result of election game is more predictable than lottery. One of those two is going to become the president.
We all wish to avoid a big nuclear war. So, the question is: who of those two is more dangerous for the world? In my opinion, definitely, the woman is more dangerous. She is much more manipulatable than Trump. Trump is flexible and trying very hard to please MIC. Still he is a businessman and quite talented one. He is capable to talk to Putin and Xi.
One way in which it is more predictable than a lottery is that your chances of winning a lottery are almost always much higher than your chance of casting the decisive vote in a presidential election. In order for that to happen, your vote would have to constitute a one-vote margin of victory in one of a handful of states disposing of electoral votes the winning candidate absolutely must have to get past the 270-electoral-vote mark.
It’s often a lot closer than it may look (80,000 votes in a handful of states determined the outcome in 2016; in 2020, it was more like 35,000 votes), but the next time it’s one vote in one state will be the first time, and there will probably never be a first time.
SO much wrong with that.
First off, yes – “strategic voting” is A Thing, and is fine so long as a person recognizes that they are what they vote. One can’t be a Libertarian, vote for an Authoritarian conservative, then still claim to be Libertarian. You sold out with your vote – wanna switch back ? Wait 4 years and vote Libertarian.
Second : “the woman is more dangerous” and “manipulatable” ? That’s some anti-female racism from the ’50s right there. Watch that Donna V don’t step in and DDT you (tho DDT has been banned since the ’70s and only briefly in the WWF).
Trump’s talent in business is in failing at them. King Bankruptcy. His CASINO even went bust ! THE ODDS WERE LITERALLY IN HIS FAVOR!!!
Also, Trump can’t both “please the MIC” and make peace with the RF and DPRC. Those are two diametrically opposed concepts.
"Still he is a businessman and quite talented one" LOL. Multiple bankruptcies, successful lawsuits and successful criminal prosecutions would indicate otherwise. What is his talent, simple coning suckers. That he good at.
More laughs. "He is capable to talk to Putin" Trump is no match for Putin.
Cynical much?…
And a "boycott will not work" ?
How do you figure ? Enough people in US governance claim the Crimean referendum (to rejoin the Russian Federation) was "not legitimate" because a specific minority of that population chose not to vote
Even Canadian politics (significantly at the municipal level, bit less at the provincial level, slightly less even federally) suffers from legitimacy questions due to voter turnout in the 40-60% range.
If more votes are cast for (not blue, not red) or a majority of registered voters don't vote, THIS SENDS A MESSAGE. First to legitimacy of the election; next, to the rejection of the options.
Australia, even, has a NONE OF THE ABOVE on their ballots !
"First to legitimacy of the election" Just because people don't vote does not questions the legitimacy of an election. People can chose not to vote, that is their right. Just means the rest of the people chose the winners. Local election turnout is typically around 40%. And winners are still picked.
It does bring the legitimacy into question, by virtue of representation.
If less than half of eligible voters did vote (setting aside issues of disenfranchisement) that means that more than half did NOT choose that person.
Take the DPRC – the Democratic Peoples’ Republic of China. The Communist Party (what, a few hundred elites ?) votes for the leader of the country. Does a vote cast by 0.00002% of the population count as “legitimate” too ?
By your rationale, it does.
Unless you can provide some magickal “% of eligible voters” than need to participate to make an election legit.
In the United States, there are even more “legitimacy” questions.
In 2016, the population of the United States was about 327 million. Donald Trump got votes from about 63 million (19.2% of the population), while Hillary Clinton got votes from about 66 million (20.1% of the population).
In 2020, the population of the US was about 331 million. Joe Biden got votes from about 81 million (24.5% of the population), while Donald Trump got votes from about 74 million (22.3% of the population).
Granted, many of the millions of Americans who voted for neither didn’t do so because they simply weren’t allowed to vote at all, but the fact remains that in neither case (and as is usually the case), the winning candidate did not enjoy the vote-expressed support of a majority.
But wait! There’s more!
Because of the electoral college system, some votes are more equal than others. In a state that’s “safe” for either of the major parties, your vote makes even less of a potential difference than if you lived in a close (“swing”) state. In reality, the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 80,000 votes, and the 2020 election was decided by about 35,000 votes in a handful of states.
Oh, agree entirely. The Electoral College system you guys use is baffling (so is $80,000 in tuition for a Bachelor’s Degree) and not made any better by your & our (in Canada) continued reliance on First Past The Post voting systems.
Our Federal leaders tend to squeak in on equally low %’s of popular vote. And worse for us, the populations of Ontario & Quebec by weight & volume have decided all but one of our federal elections in the past almost 50 YEARS. The instant that polling places in BC close and before Western votes are counted, the news announces the winner.
Want to be PM ? Win Ontario and Quebec. S**t, the Bloc Quebecois separatist PQ-First party has been the Official Opposition several times & they only run candidates in Quebec !!
That was my dog! RIP my Little Fido Foofoo!!!!
Nooooooooooo!!!!!
And neither of the two biased ABC "journalists" challenged Kamala on this or any of her other flagrant LIES of course. ABC is a joke news network.
ABC = All Bull Crap.
As with CBS, where all you C is BS.
I have nothing clever for NBC, who also stink. Partnering with Microsoft didn't help.
MSDNC. You’re welcome.
Consortium News, Sept. 11
While various nonsenses spouted by the former president were “fact-checked” by the moderators, the vice president’s completely clueless propaganda was endorsed and reinforced.
When the moderators of any debate become the focus of attention you know they have failed in their mission of being objective and non-partisan.
“With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.” — Hunter S. Thompson
Objectivity used to be something journalists at least aspired to. I realize in the Twenty-first century it is now considered an anachronism, like “Freedom of Speech”
“Objective journalism” is a 20th century fad promoted by Walter Lippmann.
American media used to be biased — and to wear their biases on their sleeves.
Now American media is biased — and blows smoke up our asses about “objectivity” instead of just admitting it and making their cases.
"Objectivity used to be something journalists at least aspired to" LOL. When was the last foxnews was objective?
In their coverage of the Israel-Palestine conflict NEVER.
I don't recall politicians switching to MSM in the past. This is relative new, and for an active politician to be an objective media type is difficult to believe. Joe Scarborough and there is Stephanopoulos and other. There is a conflict of interest IMO
Most people are just average, but there are some outstanding journalists, they have some career problems because they are above average. and of course there are successful below average lucky people with good connections maybe. There is a revolving door for people with political experience and journalist/pundits. Such is life.
Many because Kamala did not make such incredibility stupid comments like Trump.
David Muir: Trump you're a liar. Your time is up!!
David Muir: Vice President Harris is there anything you'd like to say to this liar? Take all the time you need.
Blaming David Muir for Trump's failure in the debate. If Trump can not handle David Muir than he can not handle the job. He is just too old. One can easily see Trump's mind is failing as he slips in and out of reality. It is was on full display.
It is up on show with every campaign speech he makes. Nothing new, it was a debate as expected, a nothing.
Unprofessional journalism, no doubt about that. Never mind, the debates are campaign garbage talk.
Is this real?
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
Biden displaying his trademark kindness and decency toward Israeli bullets.
Matt Viser @mviser
They are using the same narrative as the Trump assassination attempt ? Not too many cards in the deck, I guess.
In spite of actual witnesses. FFS. I don’t want to become what I think is horrible and wrong about the world in hatred, but right now, I hate these people.
Dave has an article on Antiwar on that subject
Okay, thanks, will look.
They're both Graduate of DC Lie School with honors…!
Trump's fraternity was "I Phelta Thigh".
Lol…!
Mondoweiss @Mondoweiss
Outrageous yes, but as expected, she repeated the same lie from her TV interview when Walz sat on her side.
And how about the lie that history started on October 7th? Even if you use that date disingenuously as a start, other news orgs now admit it was the Hannibal Directive ordered and carried out by Israel.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430
I’m sure the murderous stream media will get right on factchecking and correction. /s
F**king Hannibal Lecter Directive, is what.
re: Harris Lies . . .
"As of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world" Harris said.
Harris is correct:
10 U.S. Code § 101 – Definitions
(d) Duty Status
"The term “active duty” means full-time duty in the active military service of the United States. Such term includes full-time training duty, annual training duty, and attendance, while in the active military service, at a school designated as a service school by law or by the Secretary of the military department concerned. Such term does not include full-time National Guard duty."
Regular troops serve their country by their full time presence in un-dangerous places, with their families and pets. They are "active duty" in non-combat zones. The troops sent to Iraq, Syria etc. combat zones are National Guard and reserves, and not active duty.
Politicians are highly trained obfuscators, that is why getting prepared for any discussion is so important. Campaigning is excellent practice.
Not to forget, we don't have a draft anymore. NG are proxies for draftees now.
good point — proxies for a draft while suffering traumatic brain injuries, and the regulars? — playing golf in Korea before stopping in for a drink at the NCO club
The mercenaries, are posted in Syria and Iraq and Europe, all across the globe. They can honestly tell us there are no boots of American soldiers like draftees on the ground. Only volunteers, mercenaries are stationed in battle zones and most likely, they don't count.
Is that post an operation mockingbird of the CIA?
https://www.dfas.mil/MilitaryMembers/payentitlements/Pay-Tables/CZ1/ Designated Combat Zones
Is Vice President Kamala Harries lying?
What did Trump do against Putin during his presidency 2017-2021?
Two autocrats forge capitalism, imperialism for oligarchs, plutocracy with a large military-industrial complex.
What does combat zone mean?
Does the protection of international shipping from aggression create a combat zone?
Does AWACS involve participation in a combat zone?
https://www.cfr.org/timeline/trumps-foreign-policy-moments
https://manhattan.institute/article/trumps-fiscal-legacy-a-comprehensive-overview-of-spending-taxes-and-deficits
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/07/16/trump-putin-summit-ends-with-talk-of-cooperation-lawmakers-furious/
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/10/21/trump-announces-us-will-withdraw-from-intermediate-nuclear-forces-treaty/
https://news.antiwar.com/2020/05/21/us-withdraws-from-open-skies-treaty/
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/07/03/june-saw-the-most-houthi-attacks-on-red-sea-shipping-of-the-year/
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/07/14/us-launches-heavy-strikes-in-yemen/
https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/combat-zone/
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/combat-zone
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/101 (d) Duty Status.—The following definitions relating to duty status apply in this title
https://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/special-pay/combat-zone-tax-exclusions.html
https://www.dfas.mil/MilitaryMembers/payentitlements/Pay-Tables/CZ1/ Designated Combat Zones
https://awacs.nato.int
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104504/e-3-sentry-awacs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_early_warning_and_control
https://esut.de/en/2023/11/meldungen/45613/e-7a-wedgetail-fuer-die-awacs-nachfolge-ausgewaehlt/
Whatever it was, a debate it was not in MHO.
DEBATE
a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.
From what I did see and heard from others it was not a debate. And we are expected to vote for one of them. A former President and a 2 term VP had nothing to say. They stand for nothing. Trumps facial expressions were disgusting and childish and not a hint of introspection from either one of them.
Both were shameful.
It matters little. Trump tried to end the Korean war, and had Kim on board to react positively with US actions to act normally and stop sanctions. But it was not to be. The powers that be, saw to that. Trump was also able to withdraw from Syria and Iraq (didn't persist), and drafted the end of the Afghanistan war (goody). Harris only shows 'Hillary' signs of attack, attack, defending the US economy (war is a racket) — "We must stand in defense of international rules and norms." (i.e. US mandates)
I totally agree with you. The neocons are in total control regardless who wins the election. Trump is a salesman, a conman but not a politician, Harris too takes care of her ambitions, it would be fun, joy to be president and sign the bottom line, they are narcissists and megalomaniacs too. Obama too found out the president is not really in charge, the same for Biden, but he was always a neocon warmonger and proud Zionist. And the establishment knew it, beginning dementia did not matter, they could sell him, the pandemic helped to hide him in the basement for most of the time before the election.
" 2 term VP " typo?
Was a slip of the tongue, I do think that Walz would be the more competent president, and that may be the reality if she wins, stranger things could happen, we do have a demented president also. Biden was a 2 term VP, IT DID NOT MAKE HIM A BETTER PRESIDENT. What is he doing with his time now?
He has disappeared for the most part.
Can you say 'gaslighting', children? I think so.
“An aspect of military service includes serving in locations where hostile actions may occur. Those locations are designated by executive order and/or the secretary of defense. However, it’s important to note that just because a service member is in one of these locations does not mean they are engaged in war.
The US is not currently engaged in a war and does not have troops fighting in active war zones anywhere in the world.”
https://www.vox.com/kamala-harris/371497/harris-troops-war-zones
Is this article at https://www.vox.com an operation mockingbird of the CIA?
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/PROJECT%20MOCKINGBIRD%5B15770719%5D.pdf
https://www.dfas.mil/MilitaryMembers/payentitlements/Pay-Tables/CZ1/ Designated Combat Zones
“Is this article at https://www.vox.com an operation mockingbird of the CIA?” ???
No. You thought the quote was a lie?
It is military service, if not why are they there? In addition, times have changed, the Western powers assassinate other nations diplomats, all gloves have come off. Many diplomats are CIA undercover agents too.