Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said on Tuesday that the US would face “much harsher” consequences for backing Ukraine’s offensive in Russia’s Kursk Oblast.
“The impression is that our colleagues [in Washington] have discarded the remnants of common sense and believe that they can do anything,” Ryabkov said, according to TASS.
“The consequences [for the United States] could be much harsher than those they are already experiencing, they know where and in what areas we are reacting in practical terms,” Ryabkov added.
The US claims it was not involved in the planning of the Kursk offensive, but it has allowed Ukraine to use US-provided armored vehicles, missiles, and bombs in the attack on Russian territory.
The New York Times reported that the US and the UK have also provided Ukraine with satellite imagery and other information about the Kursk region. Ryabkov said that US involvement in the Kursk offensive is an “obvious fact.”
Ukraine is now pushing hard for the US to allow it to launch long-range strikes inside Russia using US-provided missiles. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov strongly warned against this potential escalation and said the US should understand that if World War III breaks out, it wouldn’t be contained in Europe.
“Americans unequivocally associate conversations about Third World War as something that, God forbid, if it happens, will affect Europe exclusively,” Lavrov said.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said that his Western backers are “naive” for worrying about escalation and called Russia’s red lines a “bluff.”
On Monday, Russia launched massive missile and drone attacks across Ukraine, which was seen as retaliation for the Kursk offensive. Russia followed up with another heavy bombing on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, in eastern Ukraine, Russian forces continue to make steady gains, which have become more rapid since Ukraine launched its Kursk offensive on August 6.
It would be nice to know what the current consequences are. Anyone know what this relates to?
US economy
The US economy is being propped up by war.
So true ED! It is considered creative economics.
😉
US economy
Russia increased military cooperation with those who are fighting against NATO and those who see NATO as their enemy. U.S. and other NATO countries have a lot of enemies in the world. Yemen, Iraq, N Korea, Venezuela and some others.
Good thing they're all failed states lol
Russia's cabal is pathetic and pointless
Is the US exemplary?…..
Far from it, but it is in general aligned with nations that stand for values you would probably prefer to the values of those failed states – or would you not?
I think it is interesting to have an exchange of ideas, to examine the pros and cons of different systems.
As do I – only in Russia that is very far from always allowed, in North Korea things are even worse – and you probably know that in Iran it is not much better.
So how do you expect the people of those nations to tell you truthfully about the cons of their systems?
Well, typically by doing my own research, consuming,, analyzing it and processing it… I utilize much Internationnal media, available in English…
Then of course evaluating it…
Well that is a kind of special way to "exchange of ideas".
So do you feel you know how society is influenced by the kinds of laws that we see in those states (Russia, North Korea and Iran)?
Just asking because I spent time living in one of the ex Soviet states and I do not think I could have predicted how that experience changed people before experiencing it in person.
My husband lived in Cuba and went through the revolution as a young man. Then he lived in Nicaragua. I wrote his life story in a screenplay called. Cuba Libre.
Cool
Hardly relevant unless your husband was anti revolution. Many people who lived through the Chinese power takeover of Mao were also very impressed by the revolutionaries even when critical of their competence they acknowledged that their enthusiasm for building a better society were genuine.
What is relevant is what comes after that enthusiasm has faded and people have to live with the consequences of their policies long term – as we have seen in many cases this leads to some of the largest migrations out of these countries – and you are left with the problem of answering why things have gotten so bad that so many choose to leave.
I hope he gets residuals off the delightful drink inspired by his literary work !
I agree!
Yes
Are you thinking they hold US prisoners and bodies in significant rank and/or number?
Perhaps the vague generality is intended to instill fear of the unknown … the worst kind.
Russian leadership should be thankful to those NATO generals who planned Kursk offensive, and sure they are, but they can't say it openly because many civilians suffered and some of them killed.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c3eaa95c711673c00e095d8e3a917a6243a9f6273af62f8af743504b5b2ad78.png
This way Russia's internal defensive forces are being trained to face a totally unprovoked US attack using European troops as proxies. Germany, France, Poland and Lithuania appear to be willing to be used as cannon fodder serving full spectrum US world domination.
The Polish, German, French, and Lithuanian armies are scary. Wouldn't expect a lazy american to know that, so I'll give you a free pass
Let me correct your statement. "Wouldn't expect a lazy anti-american to know that, so I'll give you a free pass
Thanks
That is correct, but it is also helpful from viewpoint of demilitarization of Kiev regime.
my god you people are brainwashed
Z standing at the edge of a bluff with his naive western backers, says don't worry just escalate. Take that big step off the cliff solo, thanks anyway Z.
Keep fighting 'till the last Ukrainian.
Russia needs to start doing something and not just issuing endless warnings and red lines that the west ignores.
When your enemy is destroying himself, don't interfere.
The only reason Russia isn't doing anything is because Putin knows he can't beat NATO if he tried
Dood aan Poetin
Dood aan de fascisten
Russia would crush NATO, because NATO is nothing more than a US puppet. Does the US win wars?? Nope, nor will NATO.
untrue xaxa
What would you suggest?
Don't worry, folks. Kamala told me that “As commander-in-chief, I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.” And so did Trump, except his is bigger. APPLAUSE!!!
Padme: "So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause."
And joy. Don’t forget joy.
Exactly. Being the most lethal nation on Earth is what brings us joy.
The original joy division.
https://theworldhistoryofwar.quora.com/Did-the-Nazis-have-something-called-a-Joy-Division
I saw that.
Right. Nazi slogan in the early 1930's: "Kraft durch Freud". Strength from joy.
Joyfully sending bombs to Israel who joyfully drops those bombs on Palestinians. Mostly women and children.
We could use a lot less of that kind of " joy"…… none would work for me.
Same, sambor. That type of joy is reserved for sadists and sociopaths.
Kamala is not a person to mess with. Iran will not fire missiles at US basis with her charge, like they did when Trump was the President.
A hint of optimism Tim?… I like that….
That's optimism?
Facetious.
Sorry. I was slow on the uptake.
Let Kamala assassinate an Iranian general on a diplomatic mission and see if Iran retaliates.
They won't. Trump is weak, just a classically bully. Kamala is strong.
Of course they would. And Harris is Biden without the sagging gonads. She as weak as your grammar skills.
Kamala is a puppet who was not selected by the people of her own party. The doner class selected her…Furthermore the Democrats are the party of woke, and national suicide. They must be removed in November or Americans are doomed.
Truth .
girlboss drops bombs on displaced Gazans in tents so tough, dance videos on tiktok such good vibes.
Power of a bully and of an inherently unstable country .Even Hitler did not brag about having this kind of sheer hubris.By the way Trump or someone could still do to avoid possible impeachment as a quid pro quo . There would have been UN snactions or ICC verdict against if the country carrying out that murder were a country from Africa Asia or Latin America.
It's going great, folks. Keep "FU@KING AROUND." I told you they're bluffing. …What if they're not!? …Don't worry! You will "FIND OUT!"
This is why, weird and "pro-war" as it may sound, I would very much like to see the Russian Federation use tactical nuclear weapons on Ukrainian invaders in Kursk.
WAIT, don't hit Reply yet !
1. Doing so would display a "Keyser Soze" moment from the RF towards NATO and the USA. "Holy s**t, they're willing to use nukes on THEIR OWN SOIL – they're not bluffing about any response against us !!!"
2. It would challenge the UN, USA, and NATO to explain exactly what is "illegal" about the RF doing so.
3. It would illustrate the dangers and fallout (literally) from "low yield" (hah) nuclear weapon use, to the world AND to dipwad leaders and military commanders who think tactical nuclear devices are just "bigger conventional bombs in smaller packages."
Yes, it is weird. Let's discuss the medieval crusades; it would closer to the real problems.
And those would be the Crusades we JUST established you claim didn't happen.
Seriously – do four separate people use your same Disqus account ?
🐒 🔧 in 🧠. It is truly deranged to keep poking Russia in the eye, while clowning around that Russia is bluffing about redlines. 😈 🤡
my god.. i read this I wish i'd responded when you told me not to.
Don't you think that, nuking the warriors in Kursk, would perhaps just maybe invite a response , just maybe, and make the Baltics and Poland say ah screw it and join on the side of Ukraine?
And let's not question the horrible audacity, spendocity and disregard for life by using a nuke.
What response & why ?
The RF is no longer party to the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. They are legally permitted to detonate a nuclear device anywhere within their borders, at any time, in any medium (aboveground, undersea, underground).
The Baltics or Poland have no more casus belli than would the RF if Warsaw or Riga tested an air/fuel bomb anywhere within Latverian (sic) or Polish territory.
You missed my point – USE of a tactical nuke(s) would definitively illustrate what a bad idea they are, for many reasons and in many levels. With the added bonus of demonstrating that the RF is NOT kidding.
Lest untruthful thing Putin schijts out
I'd like to stay and say more, but I'm busy designing my fallout shelter.
Hi OG:
I always encourage people to put some creative energy into it and, ya know?…. Have some fun! I recommend bright colors, to avert boredom and potential claustrophobia…
'Fallout Shelter' is free on the Xbox marketplace, and I think also on Steam. Tremendously enjoyable game.
Russia says a lot of things
Putin, like all dictators, is always looking for an external threat to keep himself in power. Putin attack on Ukraine did not go as plan. So he blames the USA.
Exchange "Putin" for "Zelansky" in the above comment. Here's the difference though: Putin isn't on the receiving end of "aid" extracted from unwilling Americans by a corrupted political class.
ZELNSKYY IS NOT A DICTATOR
putin iss
I'm sure that's what Zelansky tells you.
Im sure Putin tell’s you hes not a dictator aswell.
You mean like our government does regarding Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, al Qaeda, ISIS, etc. etc. to keep the MIC fed?
Putin is not a dictator nor has he ever been. If you knew anything about the Russian political system you would rethink such propaganda. Zelensky is not even the elected leader as of May, and shut down all elections…There is your dictator…
you are like… incomprehendably…. slow. Putin has elections, sure, but that is what educated people call an "electoral autoracy."
"Electoral autocracy is a hybrid regime, in which democratic institutions are imitative and adhere to authoritarian methods. In these regimes, regular elections are held, but they are accused of failing to reach democratic standards of freedom and fairness"
Unlike Russia, we are an actual democracy. Under Ukrainian civil code, an election can not be held under Martial law, which President Zelenskyy imposed in the beginning of the war.
Despite having an election, it is fact that the Russian Electoral Commitee will make Putin's vote 10-15 percent higher to mask the real result. In the latest elections, they actually rigged the numbers by 20%, perhaps showing a lack of trust or increased hysteria among Putin's realised popularity.
What's the US' excuse for always looking for external threats?
https://sonar21.com/danny-davis-and-i-deep-dive-on-ukraine/
Take note of how one Russian blogger, who posts at Telegram, views this development:
"According to the latest statements by Sergey Lavrov, Russia is currently clarifying its nuclear doctrine. It is clear that this was said in response to the circulating information about the negotiations currently underway between the United States and Ukraine regarding Washington’s permission to strike Russian territory at strategic depth.
There is only one unpleasant thing here: how could Moscow have gotten to the point where such American-Ukrainian negotiations became possible? This simply should not have happened if Russia had adequately responded to the escalation from Ukraine’s Western allies. But Moscow has chosen the tactics of the notorious “red lines”, which are now gradually turning into an incomprehensible vinaigrette. That is, they are slowly being crossed and moved on.
The only way to change the situation now is through an escalation that is ahead of schedule. That is, the stakes will have to be raised sharply, unilaterally, and higher than the US and EU countries have done. Of course, we are talking about nuclear weapons. What is needed now is not just vague statements that Russia reserves the right to attack some NATO facilities in the event of long-range weapons strikes on its strategic facilities.
It is now necessary to declare that in the event of such attacks, Russia will immediately and without fail strike military facilities of countries supplying weapons to Ukraine. And if the North Atlantic Alliance reacts in response, it will respond with nuclear weapons (initially limited, in a tactical manner).
That is, the Biden administration and the Brussels bureaucracy must be clearly presented with a choice: either a limited nuclear war in Europe (with a possible expansion of the theater of military operations), or a refusal to use NATO weapons against Russia to a strategic depth.
As a result, the “red lines” of the collective West will be tested: will they agree to a limited nuclear war? Are the US and its European allies ready to risk their existence for the sake of Ukraine? Let us recall that Washington faced a similar dilemma (of course, in relation to the European members of NATO, not Ukraine) in the distant 1960s, and then the answer to the answer was unambiguous: no, not at all. Now, little has changed."
JFC
Ahem…. ;-}
Apologies. But still..
Just joshing you!
It seems to be a returning wet dream of you and many others, but the Russians are neither that dumb nor that evil. In order for them to start using nukes you have to make a positive case for them obtaining an improved position doing so.
Can you?
Using nukes will guarantee a permanent sanctions regime and will lead to China and India also implying sanctions. Moreover failing them doing so they will have to choose between trade with the west or trade with Russia – they will lose much more by choosing Russia so an easy choice, but one they will want to be seen to take by themselves not by bending to the west's demands.
There are several other reasons that the Russians are not going to use nukes or attack the west directly: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iVb–Yh6BbE
So is that is why the Soviets repeatedly had military conflicts with the European NATO countries – oh wait a minute they didn't – so what is your evidence that the US was not going to stand by its European NATO allies?
NATO and our NATO-allies are 10000x stronger than the Russian Cabal of Failed States.
Russia is a pathetic nation and does nuclear saber-rattling like it's a game.
I support the Russian cause. The Kremlin will do what it has to do.
Sure but according to Putin about the last thing Russia needs is a direct conflict with the west – so Putin is with me on this.
Russia is in direct conflict with NATO and Washington on many levels. Both sides may fear what escalation might look like.
It's doubtful the Russians will want to see the conventional war extend into late 2025-2026.
For better or worse, it may end if Russia and China declare gold standards or the BRICS Unit is introduced. Washington would need to respond in kind or the dollar collapses.
The question becomes regarding the bray, does this conflict go nuclear?
I've had a decent life. I'll die during a nuclear conflagration or within months of a currency meltdown.
It's the Hobson's choice and Barack Obama is running the show.
So not in actual hot war just 'conflict' – that is about right.
Absolutely agreed.
Very doubtful – as it would not solve any of their problems – mainly being that they want to control capital flows out of their economies.
No one of the advantages of the dollar is exactly that it is not a gold standard – i.e. the amount of dollars in circulation can vary with the level of economic activity.
The bray? Could you explain what that means?
And in what context any conflict would have the people in power see an advantage of going nuclear?
Pretty much everyone will lose in a nuclear war – that is part of the reason they are so unlikely.
And there is no imminent threat of a currency meltdown during the next couple of years.
The European economies and the Chinese + Russian economies face very significant demographic challenges though.
He hardly even did that while in office – he was one of the least efficient or even effective presidents.
I consider it a hot war. It's one's word choice.
Many observers are waiting with bated breath to view whether the BRICS Unit and/or Russia gold standard is implemented. There will be a response as there is when the US Treasury threatens nations not inclined to purchase US Treasuries.
What would one expect when zero countries have no gold standard to possibly three or more nations announcing a gold standard? You can imagine global markets reeling from stock, bond, currency, and derivative market upheavals.
The Russians are upgrading their nuclear threat assessments as I write.
My unqualified answer regarding a currency meltdown is that it's closer than most think.
The Russians are addressing their demographic challenges. Their long-run success will be enhanced by acquiring most of western Ukraine–should that be a desired option. Agriculture.
Bray, is another word for confrontation in public relations back and forth verbal riposte between Moscow and Washington.
I wouldn't claim to know the context under which Russia and China might engage in a nuclear confrontation against NATO and the Five Eyes. One could make a case that the 159 countries wanting to join BRICS and rebuff America's bondage have made their opinions known to the Kremlin and the Russian Foreign Ministry.
Harry Truman wasn't tried in an international court for dropping nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Did Truman seek religious and legal counsel from the Vatican and the US Supreme Court respectively? If so, it's a secret that has stood the test of time.
Will President Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping seek religious counsel under the same circumstances? What difference would it make to you and me?
No it is a matter of definition a hot war requires the parties to be shooting at each other – NATO troops are not shooting at Russian troops.
Them shifting to gold standard would not reduce the attractiveness of US treasuries.
Can you reference the last time the US threatened any nation because they were not inclined to buy US Treasuries?
The gold standard is available to all – you can just buy gold – a gold standard is exactly that i.e. the promise to replace the notes with actual gold.
Why they can already today buy gold? That the BRICS or any other nations together or alone issues 'notes' that they are willing to back with gold does not change anything, you can already today buy gold and get paper documentation of this.
Yes that does not change the picture regarding what can be achieved by using nukes only the Russian 'legal' basis or justification for doing so.
With what basis? There are many things that ails our economies – but the problem for scare scenarios is the lack of places that capital can move for safety.
Without any such new safe locations there is scant evidence that a collapse is close at hand.
Their problem is not lack of agricultural land but low birth rates – and so far they have not achieved an increase in birthrate but the opposite (NB they are not alone in failing to address the birthrate).
Thanks – did not know that.
Nor would they – as in they would be living in a much poorer future if they did, so it would likely only be if they were sure that they would otherwise be hit first.
Any documentation of this claim? E.g. which 159 countries?
War crimes of the allies were in general not addressed post WWII – nukes were a new thing and AFAIK not at the time an illegal weapon.
They would not, but they wouldn't use them unless they saw an advantage in doing so – my argument is that there is no such advantage – which is why nukes have not been used since WWII – they are more worth as a deterrent than as a weapon.
Scott Ritter addresses the nuclear issue in the interview's last 5 minutes.
If US nuclear weapons are in Ukraine and not yet loaded on F-16s, the Russians have their casus belli for a first strike on America and Europe.
ähm what the flip
The question you and all others fail to address is what could the US or Ukraine win by having nukes in Ukraine especially secretly – nukes are primarily (almost exclusively) weapons of deterrent – here you are arguing with no basis that they would be there, with no basis for bringing them there.
If the west wanted to carry out a first strike they would do it from Finland or Latvia(shortest distance to Leningrad/Moscow) if they want deniability Ukraine would be the last place to do it from. There is no rational basis for the notion that the west would base nukes in Ukraine let alone give nukes to the Ukrainians.
my god what is it with you Putin c**ksuckers and the gold standard replacing the dollar?
And the BRICS unit? Don't make me laugh!
least anti-war person on this site :skull emoji:
STOP QUOTING THE KREMLIN THAT MAKES ME TRUST THE SOURCE 100 TIMES LESS EVEN IT ITS' TRUE
And Russia lies a lot this is bs
How is your life in Ukraine, Herr Christian?
Quite good actually I do to college
Why aren't you with the Ukrainians in the trenches? You talk a lot about your love for Ukraine, but there you are hiding in the classroom. Put your ass on the battle line to show your true love and commitment for Ukraine. Or are you just a coward with a mouth?
Ok you probably aren’t in American military either
and I wanted to join the Army but people who are aiming for a technical degree and exempt from draft (you can look that up) so I will join after, in a few years, hopefully.
How convenient. Like those people who signed up for the Army in 1919, 1946, 1954, 1976. "I'm ready to fight, General!"
– "I'm a Captain, and the war's over."
"Oh MAN. I'm SO BUMMED OUT.". (wears an I VOTED sticker that says "I OFFERED")
You don’t even go to college probably
and those people in America didn’t want to join the army to begin with.
Already went. Switched careers after 20 years, went to another training school, 6 years into THAT careeer. Writing a novel on the side.
I was in the US Army as an infantry officer from October 1975 to October 1979. Three years in Germany in a mechanized infantry battalion ready to do battle with the Warsaw Pact should they have crossed the border into West Germany.
"I wanted to join the Army but people aiming for a technical degree [blah blah blah]". If you wanted to defend Ukraine you would join up now or earlier and finished your degree after the war. But no. You are hiding behind the exemption to justify your cowardice. Your true loyalty is to your ass and your career.
Now there isn't anything wrong per se with having your ass and career as your prime (and probably only in your case) loyalty, but the stench of your coward's hypocrisy in boosting and promoting a war you have no intention of fighting is nauseating. You are letting other Ukrainians die so you can be alive and have a fat and prosperous life after the war is done.
You are a coward and you are contemptable. A fitting end for you would be for those who survive the fighting to come to your home, drag you into the street and end your parasitic existence. In a perfect world. But you will probably become fat and prosperous with your technical degree and consider those who fought and died in this war were fools and laugh at them for being chumps. A true Ukrainian you are.
If you continue to visit this site and promote this war I will remind the readership of what you are.
all wrong. You think you know about my life, but you don’t. There is more than that, and that is what you will not now. You have no right to judge my moral character or my allegiances. I started college before the war and I intend to finish it before the war’s end. I am young and active, and I will not become “fat off of my degree.” Never assume things about peoples lives since you have no right to judge. And 1st and foremost, NEVER call me a coward. Your country isn’t faced with losing 20% of its territory and daily missiles and drone strikes intended to erase our culture. The Ukrainian people have shown more bravery since 1500 than America ever has.
Until you suspend your studies and join up for the trenches you are a coward. Those other Ukrainians may be brave as all Hell, but until you join the fight you are a coward.
ok buddy
We know what you demonstrate – racism, hatred, ignorance, and as Cyrano de Begemot has uncovered for us, that you're little more than an opportunist.
A sandbagger. You're evading fighting so that others of your demographic will die in huge and unnecessary numbers, leaving YOU nearly positioned to be a scarce human resource in whatever is left of Ukraine.
Any nice older ladies walked up to you on campus recently to hand you a white feather and a glare of indictment ?
This said, one cannot blame you for avoiding a needless death in a stupid war that your side has already lost.
Simply that you don't emote "pacifist" to any of us reading your far-from-front-line cheerleading and gambling with others' lives.
He's that last thing.
Clown College.
At least I go to a collage
We also go here .Fox college .Some goe to CNN college .Same standard , only differnece is the location of the main campus.
Lol
Yes, gods-bless the form of Ukrainian "affirmative action" that could listen to you for more than a minute and say "meh, let him enroll."
Ideally you learn ANYTHING.
Are you racist against black & brown people too, or is your racism currently only directed at Russians ?
uhmmmmmmmmm only russians
not to anyone I’m fine with russians just not their
military
government
provocateurs
We've heard this "Escalate to De-escalate" proposal coming from a subset of Russian observers since the beginning of the conflict. It has an attractive sound. Trouble is, it's an untested theory. And the US Empire is looking like a wounded dragon, that is, no longer so dominating but still having a lot of destructive power. And even as the Empire gradually exhausts its own abilities, it is taunting and provoking Russia to evoke an emotional reaction. Which, thankfully, has not happened.
The vast majority of Americans remain hypnotized by anti-Russian propaganda. A military response by Russia against US/NATO could reinforce and re-consolidate the popular attitude that Russia is the aggressor. I think the US is hoping for a Gulf of Tonkin incident.
"Escalate to De-escalate" is a stupid idea. Never, ever assume that one's opponent will act the way you want them to act. In any conflict, war or even a game a chess, assuming the other side will act in a certain way is dangerous.
God your ideas are stupid
"which was seen as retaliation for the Kursk offensive"
Not necessarily. Alexander Mercouris believes, perhaps correctly, that this is part of the Russian plan for preparing the battlefield for the final push which may come sometime in the next few months. Russian military analysts are talking about a final push as the Ukrainian front lines collapse.
The American political class suffers from delusions of grandeur that will never come to fruition. America is a loser when it comes to wars..period. Russia is more than prepared to begin hurting American interests abroad and at home if pushed.
I'm wondering if German weaponry also is being used against Russia in Kursk. in some sort of bizarre repeat of the WW2 invasion by Nazi Germany So we now all think that this new invasion, (with German weapons) is OK?
"The Battle of Kursk was the largest tank battle in history, involving some 6,000 tanks, 2,000,000 troops, and 4,000 aircraft. It marked the decisive end of the German offensive capability on the Eastern Front."
"it's estimated the Battle of Kursk caused around 800,000 Soviet casualties and 200,000 German casualties. "
oblate logic….
I don't understand. The DNC had lots of tiktok dance videos, there's no way we could be stoking a nuclear war!
Bottom line is that the most rational diplomat, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov, has now warned the US that any overwhelming support for attacks on Russian territory by US long range weapons may invite strikes on the US mainland. He said that Europe is no longer the primary theater for war and the oceans around America are no longer a moat.
Between submarine launched hypersonic missiles and Submarine Launched ballistic missiles threats are already on the door step of the US mainland.
Zelensky is in a corner and escalation by the US by allowing the Ukrainians the use of long range weapons to strike throughout Russia is the ultimate red line leading to an extinction level event for all of humanity.
Russia does not want to go down the path of extinction but events are almost out of control.
Read this book to realize how dangerous the coming events can be:
Nuclear War
https://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-War-Scenario-Annie-Jacobsen/dp/0593476093
lavrov… the most rational diplomat? You've got to me schijting me
And Russian missiles are bad… remember all the МиссилеЦиркон that we shot down… because the missiles slowed down on approach to their target?
Slava Ukraïne
Heroyam Slava