Moscow Says Ukraine Destroyed Russian Bridge With Western-Provided Missiles

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1. Biden is brilliant–Not for starting WWIII. That's stupid. He is brilliant for saying we're not in WWIII. …That's not brilliant either? …It is. He got all 330 million of us to believe him.

   1. I mean, in defense of the US Warfare State & Biden's comments, there are a number of neocons who think that Iraq and Bush II's GWOT were WW3, and that an upcoming tilt against the RF and/or DPRC is WW4.

      Of course, that requires math gymnastics not even one of our Commenting community who thinks it's currently the 12th century, would manage.

      1. 😆

2. Russia will most likely eliminate every bridge between western and eastern Ukraine. It may well follow up with removal of all bridges between western Ukraine and Lviv.

   1. Score double points if the RF uses captured American weapons to do so.

      1. No

   2. My tankies are trying real hard to make this a Russian victory! Keep at it gang!

   3. They've had 2 and a half years…

      1. Russians are slowly realizing old bridges need to be demolished before bidding on replacement contracts can begin.

         1. Yeah they got the speedy destroy 'n replace deal

3. The military strategy of Ukraine in the Russian Kursk Oblast likely aims at penetrating the supply and logistics area of the Russian military, 'creating a bow'.
   Politically, this military approach involves generating negotiating leverage.
   It remains to be seen whether this will succeed.
   Furthermore, arms exports constitute a transfer of ownership that contributes to inflation through the economic production of the military-industrial complex.

   https://swentr.site/russia/602764-moscow-deny-secret-talks-claims/ You probably need a VPN to locate a local server in Russia.

   https://tass.com/defense/1830701 Russian Su-34 bomber destroys Ukrainian armor by glide bombs in Kursk Region

   https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/03/bolstering-ukraines-irregular-war-against-russia.html

   https://www.moore.army.mil/Infantry/199th/CATD/MTFC/Content/PDF/MTFC-StudentBattlebook.pdf

   https://mwi.westpoint.edu/defending-the-city-an-overview-of-defensive-tactics-from-the-modern-history-of-urban-warfare/

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tactics

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_tactics

   https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_156338.htm Countering hybrid threats

   https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-6/mswv6_28.htm Basic tactics

   https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_08.htm PROBLEMS OF STRATEGY IN GUERRILLA WAR AGAINST JAPAN

   https://faculty.chass.ncsu.edu/slatta/hi216/documents/che.htm Guerrilla Warfare By Ernesto "Che" Guevara

   http://www.nestormakhno.info/english/index.htm

   1. There are several reasons for entering Kursk, not all of them rational. One was to seize control of the natural gas pipeline in Sudzha, the primary channel of export since the US blew up the Nordstream pipelines. Gas prices have spiked in western Europe, and now Zelinsky can threaten Germany and France for more weapons or they'll destroy the metering/pumping station there.

      Another is to seize the nuclear power plant just outside Kursk, or to at least get within artillery range, to create a Chernobyl-type event to distract the Russians. (The leadership all have luxury condos in London and Miami, they don't care if they leave an irradiated hell behind.)

      Then there was the military opinion that the Russians would move forces from Donbas and relieve the pressure on the front. (Instead they mostly brought in reserve forces, some of whom were on R&R in Kursk itself.) Claims are being made that it was also going to be a diversion and the real push was going to be to capture the Zaporozhia nuclear power plant, but that's doubtful because they don't have the spare troops. (They did attack that plant with missiles though [while the IAEA inspectors were there, no less!], and damaged one of the cooling towers, but since it's shut down that's not an issue.)

      There's also the claim from the Ukraine fans in the US/UK media conglomerates that it was to give Kiev an advantage in the ceasefire negotiations, but the rather predictable result was that Moscow has called them off.

      1. And Putin is not amused. In fact, he is furious. Look out below, Kiev.

         1. My first statement after reading about the incursion on AntiWar was, “They’re going to regret that.”

            1. Oh no! We awoke the bear! Now we are gonna get the nuclear saber-rattling!

            2. When the Ukrainians cross another of Russia’s ‘red lines’ they get punished. Last time Moscow was content to take out their electrical grid and it took months to restore power to large portions of the country. Now the idiots have attacked “Mother Russia” (and yeah, that’s a real concept there), they’re going to get hurt once the Kremlin is done mopping up from the incursion.

            3. “mopping up?” Lol. Thats funny considering the Russians haven’t regained a single inch from the incursion. The orcs are retreating no matter how you spin it. Secondly, if Ukraine needs power they’ll export it, and those strikes are illegal in the 1st place. Well, not illegal. Just very rude

            4. Ukraine used to be an exporter of electricity, now they’re importing most of it. “orks”, how imaginative. So you’re another of the racist pigs I can safely ignore. Must be easy just not having to think, just parroting what you’re told, I couldn’t stand it myself.

         2. Ooooo…Putin’s REALLY mad now! Watch out!

            1. Yeah! He's gonna bomb Kyiv with all the Tsirkon missiles Ukraine shot down!

            2. Yes! He’s gonna start being a real military leader and going all the way to New York City!

               Dave DeCamp can’t have sex with a woman right now because he’s trying to compensate!

            3. aw haha

         3. Tankies really glazing Russia about how "powerful" they are

            Back in January 2022, the Russian military was 2nd or 3rd in the world , but now they can't even take a pimple on Putin's ass

      2. Gas prices have spiked in western Europe, and now Zelinsky can threaten Germany and France for more weapons or they'll destroy the metering/pumping station there.

         Fact free speculation? Gas prices are down to where they were in August 2021
         https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

         Another is to seize the nuclear power plant just outside Kursk, or to at least get within artillery range, to create a Chernobyl-type event to distract the Russians.

         More ill founded speculation: Artillery would not be able to create this kind of event with the limits on shells the Ukrainians are operating under – not to mention that doing it that way would lose them their international support.

         Taking the plant under control would require the Ukrainians could advance a hell of a lot more than they have – not a likely plan as they have already advanced more than anyone would have thought possible – look no further than to your own statement on Ukrainian troop reserves:

         …but that's doubtful because they don't have the spare troops.

         And that for taking a plant much closer to resupply and support options.

         Then there was the military opinion that the Russians would move forces from Donbas and relieve the pressure on the front.

         Well at least we are now getting closer to realism – though as you point out there were reserves even in the area not to mention that the Kursk incursion is more likely to allow Putin to engage his conscript army – so a hell of a lot more soldiers.

         1. Like I said, not all of them rational. I suspect the plan was conceived in the middle of a cocaine binge or something like it, it has that sort of hubris. Captured Ukrainian troops say they were told that their goal was to capture Kurchatov, where the Kurskaya nuclear plant is located, although not specifically the plant itself. There’s nothing else strategic about the location though, so that probably was the goal. They were so intent on reaching their goal that troops in Strykers were bypassing outposts of Russian troops without engaging at the (rather pitiful) top speed of the vehicles. The subsequent attack that damaged a cooling tower at the Zaphorizia nuclear plant just sounds like a temper tantrum at failing. But then, we’re all speculating.

            1. Maybe it's Election Season in Kiev and Zelenskiyy needs to boost his poll numbers OH WAAIIIIIT… forgot, Ukraine isn't a democracy any more. Nevermind.

            2. Russia hasn't been one since 2001

            3. And we shouldn't back them either.

            4. Ok

      3. Are the ceasefire negotiations that Moscow has called off the same ceasefire negotiations that Kyiv already said it wasn’t interested in?

         Last time I noticed, Kyiv’s position was that “give me everything I’ve been trying and failing to take for 30 months and I’ll pinky promise to stop trying and failing to take it” was not a serious peace proposal.

         1. Thomas, what an excellent explanation of the inner workings of Zelensky's Cocaine propelled brain.

         2. Most of Donbass they’ve been trying and failing to take for a decade now.

         3. The Russians have been disinterested in any peace that makes them not take land from Ukraine, so it is completely fair for Ukraine not to accept

            Would Russia accept a peace in which they took what they have but must give up Kursk?

            1. Russia was interested in March/April of 2022. The y hadn't annexed any new territory at that point. And so was Zelensky.

               March 28, 2022. President Zelensky publicly declares that Ukraine is ready for neutrality combined with security guarantees as part of a peace agreement with Russia. “Security guarantees and neutrality, the non-nuclear status of our state — we’re ready to do that. That’s the most important point … they started the war because of it.”

            2. Feint

            3. Feint? I quoted Zelensky. There was a REAL peace proposal. Need more?

               March 16, 2022. Russia and Ukraine announce significant progress towards a peace agreement mediated by Turkey and Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett. As reported in the press, the basis of the agreement includes: “a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces.”

               April 7, 2022. Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov accuses the West of trying to derail the peace talks, claiming that Ukraine had gone back on previously agreed proposals. Prime Minister Naftali Bennett later states (on February 5, 2023) that the U.S. had blocked the pending Russia-Ukraine peace agreement. When asked if the Western powers blocked the agreement, Bennett answered: “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.” At some point, says Bennett, the West decided “to crush Putin rather than to negotiate.”

         4. Putin is only interested in a “ceasefire” that would allow him time to re-constitute his decimated military. I might argue that maybe Ukraine should accept because they would be able to build-up their arsenal as well. (More time for the integration of NATO F-16 tactics, more HIMARS, more Patriot systems, etc.)

      4. I know. It's ugly. But what did you expect Zelensky and Biden fighting 'till the last Ukrainian would look like? The Mona Lisa? People don't realize the brilliance of this plan without Dementia and unlimited supply of Cocaine.

         1. Russia started it stop trying to spin it the other way

      5. Gas prices have spiked in western Europe …

         Brokers, investors, shareholders, asset managers (banks, insurance companies), speculators, etc generate the current price increases on a commodity or energy exchange through "the invisible hand" = the economic power of financial instruments such as derivatives, certificates, futures, options, leveraged products, funds, ETFs, etc.

         https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/spot

         https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/indices

         https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/futures

         https://www.derbsw.de/ENG/KnowingTheFacts/FactsAndFigures

         https://www.derbsw.de/MediaLibrary/Document/Glossar_English.pdf

         https://www.wisdomtree.eu/en-gb/resource-library/etpedia

         https://www.blackrock.com/us/individual

         https://uk.investing.com/commodities/energy

         https://www.investing.com/commodities/natural-gas

         https://www.boerse-frankfurt.de/commodity/erdgaspreis English

         https://www.ice.com/products/27996665/Dutch-TTF-Natural-Gas-Futures/data?marketId=5786634&span=1

         https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/natural-gas-price

         https://www.eia.gov/naturalgas/weekly/#tabs-prices-2

         1. The phantasmagorical “invisible hand”. What’s your point? Are you claiming that markets cannot be manipulated? Or the opposite, that manipulating the market to get what you want is acceptable? I’m not clear what the point of posting a big pile of links is, can you clarify?

            1. The term "The invisible hand" is coined by Adam Smith in his work 'An inquiry into the nature and causes of the wealth of nations'. That concept obscures the power tools of capitalists: wealth, oligopolies, stock market, financial instruments, CFD-trading, hedging, etc. Such power structures, oligopolies, new institutional economics, financial instruments, etc, cause and manipulate the past energy price inflation in 2022 to the detriment of consumers and in favor of energy companies, which report high profits in their balance sheets and business reports. Stock market, price, or central bank (Fed) controls fail, because their managers do not intervene adequately. The corrupt state central bank managers pursue a pro-inflationary monetary policy with high interest rates, thus brutally driving the economy into a recession and crisis, as high credit interest rates result in high liabilities costs for companies in their balance sheets (inflation caused by interest or high profits). This serves the purpose of corporate concentration, mergers and acquisitions (growth). With high interest rates, the prudent monetary theorist combats deflation.

               https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hedge.asp

               https://www.moneyland.ch/en/hedging-definition

               https://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/09/trade-a-cfd.asp

               https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/contractfordifferences.asp

               https://www.coase.org/newinstitutionaleconomics.htm

               https://www.deloitte.com/global/en/services/financial-advisory/services/mergers-acquisitions.html

               http://digamo.free.fr/barans66.pdf Monopoly Capital by Paul A. Baran/Paul M. Sweezy

               http://digamo.free.fr/baran57.pdf The Political Economy of Growth by Paul A. Baran

               http://digamo.free.fr/galb2001.pdf The Essential Galbraith John Kenneth

               https://www.pdfdrive.com/a-theory-of-price-control-e183826588.html A Theory of Price Control by John Kenneth Galbraith

               https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-affluent-society-e196864480.html The Affluent Society by John Kenneth Galbraith

               https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-new-industrial-state-e195102923.html The New Industrial State by John Kenneth Galbraith

               https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-anatomy-of-power-e193191069.html The Anatomy of Power by John Kenneth Galbraith

            2. I rather wish that people wanting to become Libertardians had to read ‘Wealth of Nations’ first, they’d find out very quickly that the guy who they practically worship as a deity would have been appalled by their religion political party. It could have been an interesting thought experiment, but even for the miserable standards of literature of the time it’s a terrible read.

            3. I’ve read both Wealth of Nations and Theory of Moral Sentiments. I can’t say I worship Smith. He was a writer/economist of his time, when mercantilism was beginning to transform into capitalism. He made some worthwhile points. For that matter, so did Marx, later.

            4. For not having any actual data Smith did pretty well, Marx at least had official data to work with. Abraham Lincoln subscribed to the London newspaper he wrote for throughout his term, he was pleased to find that Marx’s economic assessment of the Confederacy’s chances to succeed were accurate. It’s said that they corresponded, but if they did it’s been lost. Marx was a **MUCH** better writer, while Smith is quite a slog.

      6. Why would the Ukrainjans want a "Chernobyl-Style event?"

         I don't know if you know, but the Russians control Zaporizhzhia

         1. Unlike in the US and most of western Europe the military in Russia are often pressed into service to handle large-scale needs like battling large forest fires or big infrastructure projects. Response to a meltdown or similar emergency would be spearheaded by the military, drawing resources away from their advances on the Donbas front. It would also be a massive black eye for the Russian government, and indirectly for Putin’s handling of the Ukraine situation. For reasons that mystify neutral observers the leadership of the NATO countries seem to believe that Russians are looking for an excuse to replace Putin with another western puppet like Yeltsin, and that a Chernobyl-type disaster (or just losing in Ukraine) would provide the trigger. (It’s nothing but wishful thinking, Russians remember life under Yeltsin, with pensioners being evicted into the snow, government workers not being paid for months at a time, and actual starvation in some areas.)

            I think you misunderstand the relationship between Ukrainians and the country’s ruling class. The vast majority of Ukrainians would prefer not to be irradiated by a meltdown just over the border, but Zelinsky has condos in London, Miami, Geneva, and a villa in Tuscany, as do most of the others of his income level. They’re not worried, they can run someplace safe while pocketing the truly phenomenal amounts of graft they’ve brought in over the last couple of years. The cost of NATO weapons on the world’s black market has plummeted with the flood of equipment that has been diverted from the Ukrainian troops. It’s so bad the Pentagon has had to station observers at the receiving depots to ensure the stuff at least arrives in the country.

            And yes, I’m quite aware of Russia’s control of Zaporizhia, that’s why Ukraine had to attack it with missiles to damage the cooling tower. The almost constant shelling is why Russian technicians had to take the plant offline, the IAEA observers on site have been documenting the Ukrainian attacks but for political reasons are not allowed to assign blame.

            1. tldr

            2. You asked a question, the answer is longer than a soundbite. Sorry, the world is complicated that way.

            3. ikr!!

   2. The MIC in the west really needs to start cranking

   3. Does Chè spell out how to shoot comrades in the head in the Congo jungle?

4. Slava Ukraïne

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