Gaza’s Health Ministry said Thursday that the number of Palestinians it has recorded killed by the Israeli onslaught has surpassed 40,000, or about 2% of the population. The number is considered a conservative estimate since it doesn’t account for the 10,000 people who are missing and believed to be dead under the rubble.
The Health Ministry said a total of 40,005 Palestinians had been killed over ten months, including 40 that were killed by Israeli forces in the previous 24 hours. They also said a total of 92,401 Palestinians have been wounded.
The Health Ministry has identified 32,280 bodies by name, which includes 10,627 children, 5,956 women, and 2,770 elderly people. Gaza’s Media Office has estimated more than 16,000 children have been killed by the Israeli onslaught.
It’s unclear how many Palestinians have died due to indirect causes of the siege, such as food shortages, medicine shortages, the destruction of Gaza’s health facilities, and the spread of disease. Gaza’s Media Office has said at least 35 children have starved to death.
A letter written by a group of experts recently published in the British medical journal The Lancet estimated the total number of deaths in Gaza, including those killed by the Israeli military and indirect causes, could reach 186,000. The estimate used the death toll from the end of June, which was 37,396.
A group of American doctors and nurses who volunteered in Gaza wrote a letter to President Biden last month, and they estimated that the actual death toll has already exceeded 92,000, or 4.2% of the population. The American medical professionals also detailed the horrific violence being committed by Israeli soldiers against children.
“Every single signatory to this letter treated children in Gaza who suffered violence that must have been deliberately directed at them. Specifically, every one of us on a daily basis treated pre-teen children who were shot in the head,” the letter said.
The US continues to support the genocidal war despite the massive civilian and child death toll. This week, the Biden administration showed its strong backing of the slaughter by approving $20 billion in weapons sales for Israel, which included F-15 fighter jets and tank ammunition.
The estimate of those slaughtered is over 100,000 and Congress, Biden/Harris, Austin, Blinken can stand right next to Netanyahu to take BLAME. Biden/Harris, when mentioned in the history books, will be labeled as WAR CRIMINALS. Americans, we need to vote out the Rep/Dem Party, so we never, ever again commit Genocide in the name of Democracy.
It’s probably higher than that.
Um, genocide, slavery, impoverishment… It’s what we do. A boot up your rear; it’s the American way.
Double that figure. The Lancet (still very conservative) estimate last month was 186000 deaths, most of them women and children. That is deaths only, not casualties. That is about 8% of the total population. But this figure in no way can serve as a quantification of the amount of utter barbaric suffering inflicted on the Palestinians.
“The Lancet (still very conservative) estimate last month was 186000 deaths”
No, The Lancet did not estimate 186,000 deaths.
Three authors, in a correspondence published in The Lancet, asserted that, using a particular well-regarded formula, it is “not implausible” that the estimate “could” be 186,000 deaths … or more.
It’s an interesting piece, but it’s not an estimate. It’s a surmise as to what an estimate might look like given the application of a particular previously developed epidemiological convention, as the hook for an opinion piece calling for a ceasefire, not an actual epidemiological study. It’s short and easy to actually read instead of just pretending it’s whatever one wants it to be — help yourself.
How many have died in Gaza? Too many.
"not an estimate" … "a surmise as to what an estimate might look like given the …."
Trying out for Adm. Kirby's job, Thomas?
Well said, Robert. And well deserved, Thomas.
Well, I don’t know.
Does Adm. Kirby recognize that facts matter and that we shouldn’t just change stuff to mean what we want it to mean instead of what it actually means? If so, they don’t need anyone else in his job. If not, I’m still not really interested in being an admiral.
Well indeed let everybody read it for themselves and understand what was being said there.
And perhaps contrast it what the discussion would look like if the situation were reversed and an estimated 186000 Israeli were killed by Palestinians. No, it were just "too many".
ONE is too many — whether the dead are Palestinians, Israelis, or others.
But it says what it says, not whatever you happen to want it to say.
Quote from your link since I helped myself: "In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza."
Indeed the conservative part is the choice of a multiplication factor of 4 out of a range between 3 and 15. This is based on 'recent conflicts.' But seeing this range of 3 to 15 how many recent conflicts resemble the Israeli genocide on Palestinians, the direct targeting of civilians and the complete destruction of everything that could remotely be constructed as civilian infrastructure necessary to sustain life, including artificially induced famine, and infectious disease outbreaks?
Exactly. Claiming that it is not implausible to use a formula to make an estimate is not making an estimate.
Nor was the purpose of the letter — which is what it was, rather than e.g. a peer-reviewed study — to make an estimate. The purpose of the letter was use the plausibility of high estimates to call for a ceasefire. In other words, the piece was polemic, not science.
Okay, it's not an "estimate" because conditions in Gaza probably make it impossible to obtain a true estimate of the death toll at this time. However, it does state that 186,000 could be reasonable possible estimate. I have heard higher estimates, such as over 200,000 from Ralph Nader. Considering the level of destruction and displacement, neither "estimate" seems far-fetched.
I don’t see 186-200k as far-fetched. In fact, I suspect it may be quite a bit more.
But non-estimates are not estimates.
If the question is: What color is that car that you haven’t seen?
And I answer: Well, the most popular color of car — 35% worldwide, 28% in the US — is white, so it’s not implausible to think it may be white, I am not “estimating” that it is white.
A nationalist, religious, patriotic, terrorist liberation movement for Palestine does not separately count its dead fighters, who practice a hybrid, fascistoid, total war from the cover and backing of civil society without recognisable uniforms? (Please compare rules 1-6 of the customary international humanitarian law – https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1 )
In your biased, one-sided statement, do you doubt the organisational capabilities of the Palestinian administration in Gaza to produce meaningful population statistics (death tolls)?
https://worldbeyondwar.org/journalists-letter-to-blinken-impose-arms-embargo-on-israel/
https://worldbeyondwar.org/u-s-resumes-weapons-sales-to-saudi-arabia/
https://worldbeyondwar.org/un-delegations-are-listening-to-us-on-gaza/
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule1 The Principle of Distinction between Civilians and Combatants
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule6 Civilians’ Loss of Protection from Attack
https://international-review.icrc.org/sites/default/files/S1560775500180113a.pdf Military uniforms and the law of war
https://www.icrc.org/en/document/rules-war-nutshell
https://www.icrc.org/en/statement/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territory-law-occupation-must-be-respected
https://www.icrc.org/en/where-we-work/israel-and-occupied-territories
https://philpapers.org/archive/yvouea.pdf Uniform Exceptions and Rights Violations
gee wiz. Maybe you should go live in safe Gaza then.
As a socialist-communist anarchist, I do not long for a Muslim nomadic life in a stony desert.
You are neither. I suspect that you are ensconced in Israel, perhaps a young believer in Zionism, cheerleader for Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, chiming in for the continued killing of woman and children.
@vlp1730 and @mark_thomason:disqus
You both cowardly, aggressively, biasedly, demagogically, insidiously, criminally express your propaganda of disinformation, defamation etc. under a pseudonym, without intensive knowledge of the matter in a trivial, stupid pub regulars' table. Absurd, abstruse, not peaceful!
Wow, that's a lot of adverbs!
Since you approve of genocide, perhaps you and your family ought to be killed? See how that works?
They're no more "terrorist" than Israel or the US.
A fine display of vitriolic hasbara for public deception.
And what the heck is 'fascistoid' supposed to mean?
Do you only know the pro/thesis versus contra/antithesis and not the dialectical method of synthesis?
Neither the Qur'an, nor the Torah, nor the Bible, nor any other religion, nor nationalism as a social contract with visions do I consider a modern, humane, just model of society based on today's scientific and cultural knowledge. Are you also demanding a status for the USA that goes back 600 years in history?
You adorn yourself with the name of a pack animal and speak cynically of deception. As a result of the one-sided, biased statements of many forum participants, I do indeed state a deception of the medium ‘antiwar’, which actually turns out to be warmongering here in the forum, and an emotional plague regarding rule 6 of customary public international humanitarian law (That internet link currently returns an error code 404). By international solidarity I subsume a balanced, dialectical, class-struggle confession of the facts. Please compare:
https://www.bremertonschools.org/cms/lib/WA01001541/Centricity/Domain/222/Fourteen%20Defining%20Characteristics%20of%20Fascism%20slides.pdf
https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
https://voxpopulisphere.com/2017/08/23/lawrence-britt-14-characteristics-of-fascism/
https://www.lawctopus.com/academike/fascism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Fascism
https://education.cfr.org/learn/reading/what-fascism
https://www.livescience.com/57622-fascism.html
I'm sorry, your word salad needs more dressing. I'm sending it back to the kitchen.
Yes, i very much doubt the ability of the Gaza authorities to accurately count the dead under conditions of war. Or do you think they've combed through all the rubble yet?
Your perception appears naive and populist propaganda, as the Palestinian casualty statistics do not differentiate, as previously mentioned, between combatants and civilians. Does this mean that the entire population is considered a combat unit?
Furthermore, your assumption of inadequate community organization implies insufficient civilian protection by the Hamas government, whose fighters do not distinguish between combat and peaceful zones.
I speak only to the physical conditions that make it nearly impossible to count the dead, not who is counted in what category. Simple question: can the authorities in Gaza (or Israel) give an accurate count of the dead under current conditions or not? Hint: it's a basic yes or no question, so spare me the lecture on the nature of Hamas (or Israel).
40,000 victims : 300 days = approx. 130 victims per day
= approx. 5 victims per hour
= one victim every 12 minutes
No, we do not need to vote them out. We need to arrest them, try them, and punish them. The penalty under the US Code includes death, and that would suit at least some of them for such vast murder.
Who is "them"?
Warmongers good Tim.
Warmongers.
And Kamala has the nerve to say to protesters, and in a crass way, "I am speaking here", then to cheers, lies about the need to a cease fire and end to the genocide (she did not use that word). Two faced, she is. The Democrat cabal is putting out t-shirt with her picture, with those words, as if that is cool.
Over 40k by about 5 times.
Ever tried 90 degree temperatures for 3 months with no fresh water to drink? I think the numbers are much higher. Lancet says at least 186,000. That was a month ago! I think soon will be talking over a million.
Polio. And other infectious diseases are rampant.
Polio won't kill enough to meet Israel's objectives. Israel will have to introduce something else, but they will do it as deniably as possible.
Crikey!
Polio can paralyze in rapid order.
Yes it can, but what % get paralyzed? I believe it is less than 2%. That doesn't help Israel all that much. They need something far more potent.
Introducing polio is psychological in its intent. To terrorize.
How do you know it was "introduced," and didn't simply emerge due to unsanitary conditions produced by the war itself? It probably was always there, even if there were no known cases. Same goes for other diseases that now occur in Gaza.
No matter what is introduced it will have a more devastating impact on a population with reduced immunity. Constant stress, lack of nutrition, lack of sewage containment, decomposing corpses, lack of fresh potable water, lack of sleep, serious physical injuries, etc. will reduce bodies’ defenses/immunity of any microorganism.
There are no iron lungs in Gaza. Hell, there are no functioning hospitals in Gaza.
Years ago polio was eradicated in Gaza at great applause. So, where did the virus come from, why the sudden emergence in Gaza? I think we all know the answer.
Only a small percentage of those infected by the polio virus develop symptoms. Those without symptoms may act as carriers. So it is easy for the virus to spread in conditions of poor sanitation. No evil villains are required.
Fun fact: Polio did not emerge as a disease until a certain level of public sanitation was achieved, at which point infants were no longer exposed to the virus and thus failed to develop early immunity. In other words, the virus has been around a long time but not the disease. Which makes polio one more disease caused by civilization.
The following internet links provide information about polio:
https://www.who.int/health-topics/poliomyelitis#tab=tab_1
https://www.unicef.org/immunization/polio
https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/humanitarian-pauses-vital-critical-polio-vaccination-campaign-gaza-strip
https://polioeradication.org/news/regional-health-ministers-rally-to-support-immediate-steps-to-stop-polio-from-paralyzing-children-in-the-gaza-strip/
https://post-polio.org/post-polio-health-care-considerations-for-families-and-friends/
https://www.cdc.gov/polio/about/ About Polio in the United States
https://prevent-and-protect.com/pathogen/poliovirus_en/
https://epidemics.ifrc.org/volunteer/disease/poliomyelitis-polio
https://www.hartmann-science-center.com/en/hygiene-knowledge/glossary/glossary-16/poliovirus?
"Causative agent of poliomyelitis (infantile paralysis). Globally, this highly resistant, nonenveloped enterovirus serves as test virus for virucidal efficacy testing of disinfectants."
https://rghi.org/polio-vaccination-efforts-must-be-supported-by-good-hygiene-say-experts-on-world-polio-day/
https://www.paho.org/en/world-polio-day
Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
Our military industrial complex demands about $50 billion above and beyond our defense budget.
When we stopped spending $50 billion/yr in Afghanistan, we started spending $50 billion/yr in Ukraine.
Next it’ll go toward Iran.
Can we just give the MIC $50 billion for our border?
10:04 PM · Aug 15, 2024
They want the border open. It’s intentional.
1. No identity. Interchangeable blank slate cogs that can be programmed as desired.
2. Little resistance to merge the US with neighbors into a larger empire, funding a larger military and intelligence agencies.
3. Cheap workers.
Before this is ended by the Axis of Resistance, it's likely at least ten percent of the population of Gaza will be killed, which would be around 200,000 with another equivalent amount wounded.
The Axis of Resistance is prepared to pay that price if it means the elimination of Israel and the West from the Middle East forever. That is what is at stake in this conflict.
The death toll in Israel will probably be much higher than the Palestinian death toll before this is over. The death toll throughout the Middle East will probably be at least a million if not more.
The war to end all wars until the next war.
Yup
I believe it was Churchill who said that a war only postpones the next war. In between the wars, man comes up with new means to kill more efficiently.
A lot people won't get no supper tonight.
A lot people won't get no justice tonight.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/forever-chemicals/
40,000 seems like a large number until you see this picture:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVCvuGQWYAAoefs?format=jpg&name=large
And after seeing that, 40,000 seems like a very small number.
Simplicity is always best, dear wars and of course, you nailed it!
Exactly
I’m just thankful this isn’t being done to me. I’m not a martyr. I’d be the guy who keeps getting caught trying to cross to the outside. Escape from Gaza.
It’s a small list of options that includes suicide.
That’d probably be me. I’d claim to be doing the honorable Japanese thing after failing to escape.
Not with a sword, I hope.
40,000 out of 2.3 million is only 1.7%. That won't solve Israel's problem. In fact, it hardly puts a dent in it.
Now you are thinking like a liberal Zionist. It is much more an Eichmannian than a Himmlerian way of viewing things. You would be in the minority in present day Israel.
Desk top perpetrators think that way.
Triple that number for the wounded, maimed. That figure is incorrect. Media, controlled by the complicit U.S. government (controlled by AIPAC), sticks that number because that is what they are told to do. Period. Israeli society is taught to hate Palestinians. It begins quite early in schools. Miko Peled explained it in his book, "The General's Son: Journey of An Israeli in Palestine".
Prof Mearsheimer thinks it is more like 250 000 or so and it is a conservative estimate.
The Israelis killed a great many more than this. They also killed the people who died because the Israelis destroyed the hospitals and killed the doctors. They also killed those who die of malnutrition as they blockade the food.
This is now reaching success as a genocide. The crime is so massive that it is hard to face.
The punishment must be equally massive. The Israeli state as it now exists must end. Revoke the UN Resolutions establishing it. Declare it and its entire apartheid system illegal.
Establish a new state on that territory of all the people, with those now exclusively favored instead burdened with the massive debt of repayment. Those who have held office in Israel must be barred from any office, as the US did with the Confederates after the Civil War.
"The punishment must be equally massive. The Israeli state as it now exists must end. Revoke the UN Resolutions establishing it. Declare it and its entire apartheid system illegal." Well that is not going to happen. Quit with the fantasy and come up with real solutions.
That is the "real solution". Whether it is a fantasy or not. Anything else can't be called a solution. Rabid dogs must be put down.
Actually, Israel is wiping itself off the map right before our eyes. It may hang on for 10 years, maybe 20. But it is on the path to destruction and I see no way for it to go back. The Zionist momentum is too great to allow a correction.
It may very well happen, the suicidal insanity of the megalomaniacs in Tel Aviv knows no limits. The ultra orthodox Zionists are really sick.
Actually, it might happen. A united state isn’t implausible.
"This is…a genocide….The punishment must be equally massive. The Israeli state as it now exists must end…Declare it and its entire apartheid system illegal….Establish a new state on that teritory of all the people."
1/ Holding Israel accountable for its enormous war crimes and crimes against humanity is not "punishment": it is a matter of enforcing international laws that the US has historically enabled Israel to ignore.
2/ The model here is apartheid South Africa, which both the US and Israel supported:
Internal resistance and international pressure made South Africa into a pariah state. This outlaw state status was a key part of pressures – including UN condemnation and boycott/divest movements – that ultimately forced South Africa to repeal its criminal apartheid laws and write a new constitution.
The US was really against SA and helped end it, at least by my understanding. I guess I could be wrong on some key details…
A tribunal in Gaza city is called for, in the middle of the scene of their crimes. Biden and his Zionist desk top warriors need to see and feel what war really feels and looks like, what the evil they perpetrated is.
Does the figure include the 15,000 Hamas fighters killed? Not that is important. Sinwar and friends don't care how many Palestinians die (or as they put it necessary sacrifices). Sinwar knows he is dead man walking so he has no interest in stopping the war. What a sicko.
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Why did Israel assassinate both of the key Hamas negotiators? Why did the Zionists inflict collective punishment on all Palestinians? Why have IDF snipers shoot Palestinian children? Why bomb hospitals, schools, churches (Christian), people in tents? Why? Has there been evil embedded in those people, the Zionists, and now the population (90%) of Israel? What the h*ll happened. The Holocaust is no excuse for genocide, ethnic cleansing. Amos Goldberg, professor of the study of the Holocaust at Hebrew University called what the IDF is doing in Gaza as genocide. So did Raz Segal, history professor in Israel. So does Miko Peled, son of a Israeli general and former member of the special forces of the IDF.
Why has Israeli society gone mad? Why?
Right now, because 1200 Israelis were slaughtered on 10/7, 900 of them civilians. That tends to make people rather mad.
Israeli eyewitnesses stated that IDF gunships and Main Battle Tanks in Hannibal Directive mode carried out the massacre on 7.Oct.
Rough figures killed that day:
350 IDF
250 Setller Paramilitaries
400 Israeli civvies
Those civvies were killed by the IDF. Photos of the damage is consistent with iDF Gunship and MBT cannon fire NOT resistance AK-47s
That’s for playing. Better luck next time.
Stop lying. I haven't read even one Israeli eyewitness report like that, and I read anti-Zionist material as well as the regular press.
Patience is a gift AG. Please make a concerted effort to SEE.
blessed be.
Nice try amigo
The IDF slaughtered most of them including hostages, not Hamas. Old news by now. Why do you think Hamas fighters are mad?
You are lying. The Israelis did not slaughter 900 Israeli Kibbutzniks or concert goers. The Israelis only killed six hostages, probably because the soldiers were nervous. Why are you this stupid?
Let us ALL share together Peacefully, as we can…
Wars make life truly difficult because wars seriously effect us all.
Your perspective is important to us, as well.
People do hear better when WE ALL share in more constructive ways, though, it is easy to understand, the limits of our patience can truly be tested during war and human kinds inhumanity…
Why do you keep deflecting to "Sinwar and friends" and what they think of Palestinians? Sinwar needed "sickos" much worse than him to brutally kill that many people and create the horrific humanitarian catastrophe that we have now. And he got them. The Israeli government and the IDF/Mossad. Israel made that decision, not Sinwar.
That Hamas wouldn't care about Palestinians is one of those hasbara talking points. It is utter bullshit of course, like everything else Israeli say. If they believed it themselves it would be perverse enough, but no the Israeli don't believe in it one bit.
How do we know? Well the standard practice of Israeli use of Palestinian human shields. They even dress them up as Israeli soldiers, well partly without the protective gear. The effectiveness of this criminal – these are warcrimes – practice is precisely based on Hamas' caring about Palestinian lives.
They are not like the Israeli who just kill their own citizens, even if they are carrying a white flag.
Good Tim:
What is the solution to such problems?….
WWIII?…
I do hope folks are tuning into Iran’s Press TV.
They are making a concerted effort at utilizing truth to avert potential war…
Same old propaganda
“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, but we can never forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.”
Golda Meir.
Israel never has any interest stopping the war .
Israeli settlers attack Palestinian village in the occupied West Bank
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israeli-settlers-attack-palestinian-village-217298501548
Who are the real sickos? To me the real criminal sickos are the deranged ruling members of the regimes in DC, Tel Aviv, London, Berlin , and Paris and Brussels. The US can't remove a demented old warmonger of a president. What a circus, when we need real leadership. The candidates Trump and Harris have no substantial political competence, and certainly no leadership qualities. But then, Biden was never qualified either. the nation had no leadership for decades, that is why we are faced with nothing but chaos.
Hi Lysistrata,
In these times of war, our patience can be our greatest strength, though, I do admit, I feel very frightened.
Dear Tim:
We enjoy your company, very much.
And with our gratitude comes the gift of our prayers for you!
And, indeed, our gratitude!
You remind us all, with your presence here, of WHY,
WE ARE HERE!
Antiwar.com is about Peace, Love and Joy for ALL of US!
TRUTH is essential to our cause.
I truly pray that Christ will save you!
Lancet estimates that the total dead from all causes (by Israel) is 186,000. Months ago, Ralph Nader surmised the total to be over 200,000. Smotrich said he would like to see the entire Palestinian population in Gaza to starve to death.
Prof. Mearsheimer's conservative estimate could be about 250 000.
Hezbollah just released a video showcasing one of its tunnels and the missiles they can move around inside it. VERY impressive tunnel network which probably puts the Hamas tunnel network to shame. Hezbollah of course probably has access to heavy earth moving equipment, mining explosives, etc. that Hamas doesn't have.
Hezbollah unveils underground Imad 4 missile facility: Footage
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hezbollah-unveils-underground-imad-4-missile-facility–foota
https://media2.mediaforall.net/videofiles/2024/August/news/reports/16-mad.mp4
A month ago, Hezbollah showed off a brief part of a greater video, taken by drone, over sensitive area in Israel. What Hezbollah learned is much more than the video exposed.
When I read news, such as I am now, I am given pause to wonder, just exactly how Israelis are God’s “Chosen People”?…. …. ….
“Teach your children well”….(CSNY)
The inference thus being?….
WHO IS GOD?….;-/
God doesn't Choose people who are mass murderers…!
Why should Palestinians be prevented from trying to halt their own extermination?
Albeit Hamas is bad and they shouldn't have done what they did
I’ve no wish to see any further progression of these events of war… Indeed, I feel quite strongly that much of this is a, hmmm, family problem?….
Indeed
Because there ARE double standards when it comes to Israel and the rest of the world! Israel mass murders thousands of innocent defenseless people = ok ("right to self-defense")
A few Israelis get killed = there must be a world war to "retaliate".
Total double standards that IGNORE the human rights of Palestinians or ANY nation that dares go against Israel's will! The world has leaned NOTHING after TWO world wars!
Touché!
Well on a nerdy technicality, you are more likely to know someone killed in Israel during Hamas's rampage than 9/11 just because of population, even though far less were killed in Israel. And 9/11 warranted a war according to Bush's crooked mentality. However, to be fair, we were in a state of revenge after 9/11 and israel was in a state of revenge after 0ct 7. Thinking is stopped. You can only think about revenge, And we have the power of hindsight to know we were wrong. Israel should be accessing that within the next year or 2
The question still begs to be asked: Inside Job?…
At best willful negligence.
"Israel should be accessing that within the next year or 2."
That's funny. At least if you think their assessment will be that they think they were wrong.
Hopefully
Collective punishment is a crime against humanity and is against international law and the Geneva Convention.
Israel will not, given the current leaders (Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, Netanyahu) access anything. It will be kill, kill, kill. Netanyahu's trip to D.C. and his speech showed just how much our "representatives" are his (Israel's) b*tches. Just think, a GD foreign agent, AIPAC, basically owns the U.S., and most of the dumb citizens of the U.S. don't know or do not care. How the f*ck did this happen???
I know it is
And Israel is good for occupying Gaza for 75 years, then when the wrong political party in Gaza wins a fair election, puts a brutal blockade (assisted by the U.S. of A) on Gaza, then limits food, medicines, potable water, travel? The Hamas fighters who carried out the breakout were born in a concentration camp. Unemployment 60%. No hope of a viable future. None.
Israel leaders were complicit. They knew the plans one year in advance. On 5Oct the rave was given the OK to position where it was, right on the path to the base that was one of the objectives of the fighters (Haaretz has an article about it), hence the fighters stumbled on to the rave (admitted by the IDF), which had among the revelers current or former IDF soldiers. It was an operation to trigger what the Zionists have wanted for many years; the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza. They were OK to sacrifice ( and kill per the Hannibal Directive) Israeli citizens.
What Hamas did is no longer relevant. There is just no excuse for what Israel has done and continues to do. And in broad daylight for all to see.
And once again Israel and the USA dispute the numbers. There thousands and thousands who are unaccounted for under the rubbles.
Philip Giraldi
@philipgiraldi
The Jewish state is struggling economically and militarily in its war of extermination in Gaza and it knows it is not in any shape to take on Hezbollah and Iran, so it has decided to let the United States do the heavy lifting.
Better add Syria to our war categories as Israel is now attacking them as well….
Now…!? Israel has been attacking Syria for decades…!
Netman:
I was just watching press tv on my device and my own sister objected!
Dumbocracy?……
Have her watch this…:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1824446821889945874
I am given pause to wonder, the moment when so much death and destruction to any human beings, becomes a potential holocaust?…
How many children must die?
How many women must die?
How many men must die?…
……………………………………..
Children Live What They Learn
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/overcoming-child-abuse/201112/children-learn-what-they-live
It takes Everyone To Make peace…
Peace On Earth is essential to earth and Humanity…
Antiwar is an effort towards that.
Blessed be to ALL and with much gratitude for our blessings!
🙂
Israel is in total panic right now since Hezbollah found out where the crime minister lives in northern Tel Aviv via one of their undetected drone…! They also found out where the major industrial and petrochemical facilities are in northern Israel via another drone recently, all of each are in the range of all their missiles, rockets and drones….!
"" since it doesn’t account for the 10,000 people who are missing and believed to be dead under the rubble.""
OMG you could not make this shit up