On Monday, Israeli military police detained Israeli soldiers who were suspected of raping a Palestinian prisoner at the notorious Sde Teiman prison in southern Israel.
Israeli media reported that the Palestinian prisoner was transferred from Sde Teiman to a hospital with an injury to his anus that was so severe he could not walk.
When the Israeli military police went to Sde Teiman to detain soldiers suspected of forcibly sodomizing the Palestinian man, they were met with resistance. A security source told Haaretz that Israeli soldiers at the facility refused to leave and barricaded themselves in. They also reportedly used pepper spray on the military police.
The police ended up detaining nine out of 10 of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers suspected of abusing the Palestinian detainee. The arrest of the suspected rapists sparked protests from far-right Israeli activists.
Members of the Israeli Knesset joined protesters as they stormed Sde Teiman, including Zvi Sukkot of the Religious Zionism party. At least one member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition was spotted among the protesters, Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu, a member of the Jewish Power party. Later in the day, protesters stormed Beit Lid, the base where the Israeli soldiers are being held.
Israeli Minister of National Security Itamar Ben Gvir, leader of the Jewish Power party, praised the detained Israeli soldiers, calling them the “best heroes” and denouncing their arrest as “shameful.”
According to The Telegraph, Ben Gvir said the Israeli security establishment should support the soldiers and “learn from the prison service: light treatment of terrorists is over. Soldiers need to have our full support.”
Israeli whistleblowers have detailed widespread abuse and torture at the Sde Teiman prison, which holds Palestinians detained from Gaza. The New York Times reported last month that Palestinians who made it out of the facility said they were subject to sexual torture.
Younis al-Hamlawi, a senior nurse who was detained by Israeli forces in Gaza after he left Al-Shifa Hospital over allegations that he was tied to Hamas, told the Times that Israeli soldiers penetrated his rectum with a metal stick, causing him to bleed and leaving him in “unbearable pain.”
The Times report said a leaked report from the UN “cited a 41-year-old detainee who said that interrogators ‘made me sit on something like a hot metal stick and it felt like fire,’ and also said that another detainee ‘died after they put the electric stick up’ his anus.”
Members of parliament and cabinet ministers protesting the arrest of people who raped a Palestinian so badly he couldn't walk. Israeli society is very, very sick. I don't know if it can be repaired.
Hamza M Syed & @HamzaMSyed
Up for discussion in the Israeli parliament: the legitimacy of raping prisoners
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Is that an actual translation? By all the gods . . .
I’m not certain. I think so.
I guess in a slave holding society it’s often common to rape… Maybe the Palestinians are seen as something equivalent now.
Worse than slaves. Sparta would declare war on their slaves so it was legal to kill them. The Palestinians are "human animals" per a government minister or two. Snipers are shooting children in the head dead center, in the chest dead center (same child) repeatedly. They literally see them as pests to exterminate and as human dolls to torture.
Sparta didn’t pass on any writing; so, we know little about them really. Back then, most everyone had slaves. No one wanted to do manual labour like farming; so, slavery decided who would do it. For a Spartan, it was better to be a professional soldier. They enslaved the “acorn eaters” as I recall, so scavengers and likely nomads. The Spartans saw themselves as pure Dorian I’ve heard; so, race was part of their system.
However, the Israelis don’t use them to work.
Funny, when Adolf Eichmann was held by Israel I don't remember him getting raped. Or starved. Or beaten. He did get a trial though. 1962 Israel treated actual Nazis better than 2024 Israel treats people on land they want to colonize. I guess that's what a couple decades of being a Neo-Con puppet state will do to a country.
ZIONIST RELATIONS WITH NAZI GERMANY
FARIS YAHYA
https://michaelharrison.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Zionist-Relations-with-Nazi-Germany-Faris-Yahya-PSR-Beirut-1978.pdf
Eye opening. I'm through the first dozen or so pages so far, I guess I'm not as surprised as I thought I'd be, though.
Conclusion: Good and bad people live in Israel, just like everywhere else in the world. Why not?
Yeah there were good and bad people that lived inside Nazi Germany, just like anywhere else in the world. Did not mean that Nazi Germany was just like all other places in the world.
Nazi Germany was a genocidal entity that was inherently evil, build on racist political theory that is not compatible with humanity and needed to be put to an end.
Zionist Israel is a genocidal entity that is inherently evil, build on racist political theory that is not compatible with humanity and needs to be put to an end.
Your comparison is lame, because you equate attacker and defender, e.g., eagle = stone deer?
The attackers are the Israelis, for years.
They are an illegal apartheid occupation government that has tried to eliminate Palestinians. They have no legal right of defense, much less extermination (and torture) of people they call animals.
First of all, does the Palestinian people (including emigrants) oppose immigration in the country with xenophobia since its beginning, and like the Native Americans (population statistics) defend themselves against the flood of immigrant Europeans, Asians, Africans?
Don't all human beings live as genetically, biologically developed, thinking, speaking 'animals'? Please do not misunderstand this as defending the statement of the Israeli Minister of Defense, who obviously differentiates in terms of his enemies.
PS: Do you adorn yourself with fake feathers, a mask, wig (photo) or do you practice a personality cult? Obviously, you hide your name identity with a pseudonym, which I do not practice under copyright law with regard to freedom of expression.
I avoid trivial, banal pub conversations as much as possible in order to participate in a constructive discussion with referential texts (the offer of non-binding Internet links to my research on the matter) of the editor's medium with regard to the topic. I miss that in many posts.
I avoid named or unnamed personal attacks. It demonstrates weakness in argument.
Israel is an illegal apartheid occupation government that has no rights to defense. It is committing genocide, extermination.
Long winded avoidance of my factual point isn’t working.
It isn't lame. If the comparison lacks in veritability it is because the Nazi did not have the benefit of a history that taught them the meaning of the phrase "never again."
The Israeli do. But the lessons they draw from that pitch dark history is how to do it again more effectively. And Herr Goebbels would meanwhile mummify himself salivating at their propaganda machine.
Netanyahu is like a living, breathing undefeatable argument for the rehabilitation of Adolf Hitler. Now, that is most definitely a thing that should not exist. Yet it does, receiving countless standing ovations from a bought and paid for American Congress. And yes it is sick. Truly, horribly sick.
Zionism is a freedom movement that seeks to provide a safe place for Jews to live. Christian and Islamic Judaeophobia created Zionism.
Zionism is an ethno-nationalist movement like National Socialism, the Ku Klux Klan, etc.
Excursus: The defining word 'national' contradicts the theory of socialism, that means that the fascists misuse the vocabulary of their enemy, the contrary social, political movement, in order to deceive the masses in a propagandistic, populist way. For that ethnic-national movement I use only the two words German fascism to distinguish clearly.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/a-definition-of-zionism
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/anti-zionism
There is no "the" theory of socialism. There are many theories of socialism. Fascism is one of them. It's a vanguardist/substitutionist one like Marxism-Leninism, as opposed to a participatory one like the anarchist variants, etc.
Are you confusing scientific socialism with the pseudoscience of sociology, a branch, discipline of philosophy?
Of course, there are some variants of socialism, but to classify fascism here is politically abstruse, absurd, perverse, because a totalitarian form of socialism diverges from its theory.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/kropotkin-peter/1892/bread.htm#chapter02
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/works/various/soc-anar.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/malatesta/1923/anarchism-socialism-and-communism.html
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gustav-landauer-the-12-articles-of-the-socialist-federation
https://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1913/socialism-anarchism.htm
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism#toc15
"Socialism, in the broadest sense of the word, encompasses every doctrine or tendency, which applies to human society. In its narrower sense the word means some special, more or less clearly defined system of social order." By Johann Most in: The Social Monster
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/johann-most-the-social-monster
I’m not confusing anything. Since I have no personal investment in having the word “socialism” mean whatever I want it to mean and ONLY what I want it to mean, I’m free to look at all the variants instead of pretending some of the variants aren’t variants.
Who still trusts you?
Anyone who prefers trustworthiness.
While that is certainly true, there are maybe larger conclusions that can be drawn here. Assuming the charge is accurate why are politicians defending this mans right to do this? That is a deeper level of badness.
Sure. The only difference is if the designated terrorists do the same thing, well, they're designated as terrorists, and we send bombs and billions to kill them. Good and bad. Women and children. Sick and elderly.
Yes, but there are extremes there which exist nowhere else right now. Dual morality.
Whites during colonialism saw themselves as superior like that. This was due to technological differences, carrying capacity being full in places, religion, racial theories, etc.
Apparently, Ukraine might be like that to some extent, which makes nationalism look bad.
Interesting on that front:
Ultra-nationalist linked to Maidan false flag assassinated
The killing of ultra-nationalist Ukrainian politician Iryna Farion at the hands of a Neo-Nazi is filled with irony. Linked to the Maidan false flag massacre, Farion was instrumental in bringing fascist forces into the mainstream.
….Farion’s assassination raises the question of whether civil society actors rejecting any form of settlement with Moscow are being eliminated too. The CIA spent expended heavy resources to training a dedicated assassination squad for Kiev. The unit is so effective, US officials fear its operatives could go rogue and execute targeted killings the world over, with one former senior CIA figure reportedly warning: “We are seeing the birth of a set of intelligence services that are like Mossad in the 1970s.” The Washington Post has reported that Ukraine’s proficiency at such operations “has risks for Russia… but it carries broader risks as well” for the rest of the world.
If a CIA-backed outfit in Ukraine is turning its guns on its former sponsors, it would follow a well-document history of blowback. Whether or not Farion’s assassination was the product of an intelligence intrigue, it is clear that Kiev’s chickens are coming home to roost.
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/07/28/neo-nazi-maidan-assassinated/
I saw that one. I feared when this began that the US would create white nationalist terrorists, to fill the void, for the US/EU managerial state to oppose. An enemy is wanted for them to unite against. They want to unite against the previous natives. Amerindians are the original natives in the US; there might have been various waves of them. But in the US, whites were the dominant group for a period, the new natives in a sense. So, opposition to whites resisting the loss of their lands could be the unity the West unites around. So, unity in new people taking the land.
Actually though, violent groups like that might be key to power. I don’t want to think about that. I don’t support or approve of such groups.
Ukraine is fascinating. It’s like Europe had a last chance to survive, and it chose extinction because a small group of Ukrainians believe they’re more pure than Russians and want more territory…
They (US gov’t coups) also like fascist dictators in power to control the population. What better than to have a puppet that controls thoughts, speech, culture etc?
The US wants open societies that are “free” to be inundated with US propaganda. I would argue NK, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Vietnam, China, India, etc. are in a way fascist managerial states that resist the outside. They tend to be religious and/or nationalist. However, many identity as communist which is neither religious nor nationalist.
There is an old expression and I feel strongly that it applies here:
Children live what they learn….
Like this?
https://youtu.be/RV0pEUXMz6M?si=YlIdT-EcQxk_7Jh8
Skip the first two minutes of his babbling. Apparently there's a whole new genre of hip hop music in Israel too, 'Annihilation Rap', where singers praise the war crimes going on in Gaza and the West Bank.
I have concluded that every situation where one group of people establishes dominance and control over another, degenerates into the Stanford prison experiment. It is an ugly feature of human nature.
I totally agree with you. And rape is a form of exhibiting power over another.
The people in power have studied human and group dynamics and can easily manipulate people. Another experiment done that clearly shows how people can be manipulated to second guess what they clearly can see with their own eyes and change their opinions is the Ashe Experiment.
https://youtu.be/iRh5qy09nNw?si=1wkCmnhpzysZrv0v
Don't get hung up on man's inhumanity to man. it has been a part of human history. The issue here is that Israeli society, government and the zionist project are disintegrating. This was not a protest and its worse than the January 6 incident. Sane Israelis will start to abandon the Zionist project and leave. The 33% of fanatics will stay and face the onslaught to come.
October 7 empowered the extreme right in Israel,just as Pearl Harbor led to loyal american citizens of Japanese ancestry being put into concentration camps. Oct 7 did not distinguish between civilians and soldiers,leftists or rightists. A village full of Israeli leftists was wiped out.
Agreed Jake – those 400 Israeli’s massacred by the IDF that day sure galvanized the crazies.
Prove it .
… and 40 beheaded babies.
consider the touching tableau: little Rachel asking "What did you do in the war Papa?" in the most moral army in history, Papa? Such a wonderful free & democratic society like our own.
I can see our Congress Critters applauding
Israel is so nice…. Go ahead and fill in the blanks. I'm sick and tired of how nice it is.
With heroes like these, who needs villains?
We might be the baddies…
What a shining beacon of democracy in the ME. /s
Where is Jake…!
Wait for it. I'm thinking he'll go with "prove it".
He Will use the oct 7 rape claims as justification, hamas started this , etc
Oct 7 rape claims were confirmed by the UN.
It was never confirmed.
Criminals exist in every society. Those accused should be given fair trials,and if found guilty, punished accordingly. The fact that an arrest in this case is a positive sign. Would Syria or Egypt prosecute if the victim was Jewish?
Videos at Information Liberation show how the rioters attacked all mainstream journalists that were present. The police only got the victims out of the way but arrested no one.
The rioters tried to break down the gate to Sde Teiman. No one was arrested.
Zvi Sukkot, the Knesset member and leader of the rioters, got an interview on Channel 12, Israel's most popular TV channel.
The Israeli generals had to interrupt their plans for attacks on Lebanon in order to deal with the rioters. They even pulled out soldiers from Gaza to help secure Sde Teiman.
The rioters were praised by members of parliament and the government.
Israel is a sick country.
Remember
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/abu-ghraib-prison
The most moral army in the world.
I especially like the "A light unto the Nations" description that is often used.
Hello state department. Anyone home? Justify this shit.
Their response: Israel has the right to defend itself sexually…!
Jonathon Miller: "We're looking into it."
New untermenschen:
German Interior Ministry attacks religious freedom with ban on the Islamic Centre Hamburg
On Wednesday last week, the Federal Interior Ministry banned the Islamic Centre Hamburg (IZH) and its alleged offshoots in Berlin, Munich and Frankfurt am Main. The police stormed and searched a total of 53 mosques, prayer centres, club rooms and private homes in eight federal states and confiscated money, five properties and other assets. Four mosques were desecrated in the process.
In Hamburg, masked officers used rams and chainsaws to force their way into the Blue Mosque, the oldest Shia Mosque in Europe, which was subsequently placed under federal administration. The IZH is considered the centre of Shia Islam in Germany and has been under surveillance by the Hamburg Verfassungsschutz (domestic intelligence agency) since 1993. In November last year, the police carried out 55 house searches in seven federal states in order to secure evidence for the current ban.
The Sozialistische Gleichheitspartei (Socialist Equality Party, SGP) condemns these attacks on religious freedom in the strongest possible terms. They are directly linked to the pro-war campaign that the German government is waging against Iran together with its NATO partners and Israel. In preparation for an open war, opponents of the war are being intimidated on the home front and Muslim minorities are now also being terrorised across the board.
The Interior Ministry accuses the IZH of acting against the “constitutional order” and the “idea of international understanding,” supporting the Lebanese Hezbollah and posing a threat to democratic rights in Germany, among other things. Representatives of the ministry and the government also accuse the organisation of acting as a “spy nest,” “extended arm” and “direct representative” of the Iranian regime.
All of these accusations are made without providing any concrete evidence.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/30/poxc-j30.html
You know that freedom of religion as the freedom of speech, thoughts, press and media applies to some groups than others.
I don't know but can't help thinking the same people and money rigging US elections did the same in Germany. The current green coalition and Scholz and Baerbock and Habeck and Ursula von der Leyen and all the others would have never made it under normal circumstances, the SPD has been destroyed like our democrats, the AfD is the only real opposition and is being demonized much like the communists and socialist in the McCarthy era here. Such a sudden change in government is bizarre. The same is true of other European governments like Finland and Sweden, all govern against their peoples interests, it borders on high treason.
Orban and Fico govern in the best interests of their people and the whole EU is stabbing Orban in the back and they tried to assassinate Fico. The insanity of the governments across the continent and the USA is mindboggling. It takes no more than simple common sense to end the slaughter in Ukraine and Gaza, in fact common sense would not have let it happen in the first place, and the idiots are looking for more war in the Pacific. It takes really corrupt people to annihilate nations and claim they do a great job and keep a demented old man in office and use another incompetent old man to replace him. That is how insane they are.
Did Nazi Germany have a right to defend itself?
BFD. When is Israel going to "detail" IDF snipers that shoot children, even toddlers, twice??? Per Dr. Perlmutter in Politico article on his volunteer work as a surgeon in Gaza, that is exactly what he found. Here is the article: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697
If the Russians were doing this to Ukrainian prisoners, guaranteed it would be all over the Fake News.
So they raid the base because they approved of sodomizing a Palestinian?
IDF's chief rabbi-to-be permits raping women in wartime
Col. Eyal Karim, the IDF's intended next chief rabbi, has previously provided misogynistic interpretations of Jewish law that consider female conscription 'utterly forbidden' and permits raping 'attracting Gentile women' as a way to keep up morale; female MKs and women's rights organizations, incensed, call for his appointment to be cancelled.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4827240,00.html
Israel dropped the arrest warrants.
Sick people .
Israel just bombed the southern suburbs of Beirut. Here we go. Obviously the Biden/Harris regime gave them a green light.
You know they did. Election is coming up. Gotta keep up the infusion of AIPAC dough.
Never thought I'd see people fighting for the right to rape.
Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower.. Absolutely disgusting.