Former President Donald Trump said Friday that he spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and said he would work to end the war in Ukraine.
“I appreciate President Zelenskyy for reaching out because I, as your next President of the United States, will bring peace to the world and end the war that has cost so many lives and devastated countless innocent families,” Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social.
“Both sides will be able to come together and negotiate a deal that ends the violence and paves a path forward to prosperity,” he added.
The conversation came after Trump was formally nominated as the Republican presidential candidate. Zelensky’s office said in a statement on the call that the Ukrainian president congratulated Trump “on his nomination as the candidate of the Republican Party in the presidential elections.”
The statement said Zelensky condemned the assassination attempt on Trump and that the two leaders agreed “to discuss in a personal meeting what steps can be taken to restore a just peace for Ukraine as soon as possible.”
Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), has also said he favors a peace deal in Ukraine so the US can focus on building up around China, which he called the “biggest threat” facing the US, an opinion shared by the Pentagon.
Since April 2022, when peace talks between Russia and Ukraine that were discouraged by the US and NATO broke down, Zelensky has rejected the idea of negotiations with Moscow. But he recently said Russia should attend the next international summit on the war that he organizes, signaling a shift in his view.
A recent poll shows that a plurality of Ukrainians are ready for negotiations with Russia. The poll, conducted by the Ukrainian news site Dzerkalo Tyzhnia, found that 44% of Ukrainians in areas behind the frontline believe it is time to start peace talks, while 35% are opposed to the idea, and 21% are undecided.
Assuming Trump wins, by the time he takes office, Putin might have decided to take the entire eastern side, plus Odessa etc. just to finish things. I don’t know whether Russia could hold that much, but the river provides a good border.
The time to end the war, for the US, is now.
Putin can wait.
If Trump takes office in 2025, Putin will be able to annex the entire Ukraine with zero repercussions.
If Kamala wins, she will work to end the war by allowing Russia to keep all occupied territories.
Either way, Putin wins.
More accurately, given the current situation there, in ANY foreseeable, realistic future, Ukraine loses.
That's never gonna happen. IF Trump wins, the Dems and Uncle Joe will backload the funding for Ukraine to continue to fight the Russian invaders. If Harris wins, Putin will be done.
"If Harris wins, Putin will be done". Can you explain this, because it makes zero sense and on its face is laughable.
Why would you think Harris will do anything differently than Biden? Why do you think Biden endorsed her? How about Pelosi's endorsement? The establishment democrats are fine with this. Harris is Biden minus the nutsack hanging down between his knees.
And how come he hasn't already taken it? (You know you're full of s**t.)
What?
"Putin might have decided to take the entire eastern side, plus Odessa etc. just to finish things."
That.
Look, you’re really into this competition between the US and Ukraine. I’m not.
I understood your comment. I just found it irritating. It looks to me like Putin is winning but at great cost. I expect him to have a breakthrough enabling him to take anything he wants, but if he takes more he’ll have to hold it, which he can’t easily do.
You have this pro-empire view that I don’t share. I don’t revere any state power.
I’ve tried explaining before: I’m a traditionalist, a nationalist. I’m not focused on states, on governments. You always assume I’m with some power, and I’m not.
The only reason I don’t explain in greater detail is this site wouldn’t want me to. My views seem bad (to many) at first, until you look deeper. No one has time for that.
I don't assume anything. I see your "views" are all wrong and you seem to revere Putin. I'm calling you out for that.
I don’t revere him. I’m a nationalist. He imports Asian Muslims. I’ve said I like some things he does, and I’ve said he is impressive in his ability and likely the best Russia could get. However, he does make mistakes. I could list some mistakes.
Anyway, I have views different from what you expect. I keep telling you I’m in a different camp.
Fair enough.
If the Russians are so pathetic, why haven't the Ukrainians finished them off yet? I quote back to you your parenthetical remark.
Wrong question.
If the Russians are so great, why haven't they finished off the Ukes?
It is the correct question. You just can’t and won’t (coward that you are) answer it.
Russian resources are greater than the Ukes so far. If you were actually paying attention, you'd know that is going to change.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/07/21/russian-brigades-are-adding-dirt-bike-training-for-some-new-troops/
Rather than packing lots of troops into a few vehicles that can be hit by drones you put each soldier on a fast moving dirt bike to cross the same terrain. Lets say the Russians have three BMPs with 10 soldiers per vehicle (that's 30 soldiers in case you need the help figuring it out). In crossing a field in the attack they are opposed by 5 Ukrainian drones. Odds are that the Russian BMPs and their passengers won't make it. Win Ukrainians. Now put those 30 Russian soldiers on speedy dirt bikes opposed by 5 Ukrainian drones. Even if each Ukrainian drone takes out its target, that still leaves 25 Russian soldiers advancing to the attack. Maybe the dirt bike thing isn't so dumb.
Ukraine would be in serious trouble without the US part of their backing. I guess he was assuming Trump was going to cut that support. So, given the differences in sizes and weaponry of the two countries, it wouldn't be a stretch to say Ukraine would have lost more land by now had they not had any support from the start.
Trump spoke with Zelensky to end the war in Ukraine but he supported Mike Johnson's decision to keep arming Ukraine. JD Vance also says he wants to end the war, if they become President and VP, we'll find out exactly where they stand.
Vance has already stated (in an interview at the RC) his view that Russia is the main aggressor and wants to annex the whole country.
Easy to end the war. Cut off all cash and military weapons for Ukraine.
Zelensky can then be tried as the war criminal that he is before hanging him.
The US needs to recover as much of the cash stolen by Zelensky. Zelensky has over a Billion USD hidden in Singapore alone.
Too much MIC donations at stake for that to happen.
Phone conversation: "You're fired." Click… …wut
Just like the American voters did in 2020.
NATO is holding half a million troops at high readiness to guard against the looming risk of war with Russia, the alliance's top spokesperson has said. Other sources define it as 'HIGH ALERT'
Notice the timing of this; right after Trump talks to Mr. Z. Seems we are now getting even closer to WWIII. Russia has said many times they will go nuclear if there's an existential threat to Russia. Since Wash. and NATO have their own agenda and trash the desires of the people around the world, the best we can do now is pray for peace. And, that's pathetic in countries that are supposed to be 'democracies'. The state doesn't ever listen to the people they are supposed to represent. It's all about MONEY!!!!!! https://www.newsweek.com/nato-half-million-troops-high-readiness-russia-threat-ukraine-1928306
This is another "negotiations" joke shop. Why? Because the US is not capable of agreeing to what Russia wants from any negotiations. Everyone knows what Russia wants: a new security architecture for Europe – and now less so because they're designing a new security architecture for western, central and eastern Asia. The US hegemony is not capable of ceding half the world to someone else. Trump can not override that.
People who think Trump will have the political clout to end the war in Ukraine (assuming it's even still going on by the time he gets in office – which by the way makes it easy for him to claim he ended it once he does get in) are delusional.
On top of which, he's going to escalate the war in the Middle East and then start a war with China.
The moronic delusions of the US electorate never end – which is why they're all going to die in WWIII.
Trump seems a bit presumptuous re his upcoming occupation of the oval office, but I wish him luck re the US-sponsored Ukraine fiasco. Not expecting much re Israel, considering our bought and paid for Congress.
Yeah, sure. I guy who not only doesn't appear to understand the true nature of the conflict (plus, but he's also threatened to bomb Moscow), and always believes the last person he's spoken to is going to broker a "fair" peace?