Israel received intelligence support from the US in its Saturday operation in central Gaza’s Nuseirat camp that killed over 200 Palestinians and freed four Israeli hostages.
The intelligence support included information provided by US drone flights over Gaza. The US began flying MQ-9 Reaper drones over Gaza days after October 7 and deployed special operations forces to Israel, demonstrating that US military support for Israel goes beyond providing weapons.
The Washington Post reported that a team of US special operations soldiers and intelligence personnel based at the US Embassy in Jerusalem provided the intelligence support. Besides the drone flights, the US provided communications intercepts, and Israel also received intelligence support from the UK.
Local residents said the Israeli special forces who carried out the raid were disguised as displaced Palestinians from Rafah, and others entered the camp in an aid truck. The Israeli military denied it used an aid truck, but Israeli media reported Israeli soldiers meant to blend in as Arabs were part of the attack. Israeli warplanes pounded Nuseirat as the Israeli commandos on the ground moved to locate the hostages.
According to Gaza’s Health Ministry, 274 Palestinians were killed in the attack on Nuseirat, and 678 were wounded. Gaza’s Media Office said 64 of the dead were children, and 57 were women. The total death toll in Gaza since October 7 has surpassed 37,000.
Israel claimed it killed less than 100 people in the assault, while the US said it didn’t know how many people died. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan celebrated the assault and also acknowledged that “innocent people” were killed.
“We, the United States, are not in a position today to make a definitive statement about that. The Israeli defense forces have put out one number. The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry has put out another number,” Sullivan said. “But we do know this … Innocent people were tragically killed in this operation.”
Hamas alleged that the Israeli attack killed three other Israeli hostages, including an American citizen. The Palestinian group released a video of three corpses, but they were unidentifiable.
Good for USA. If they can help rescue kidnapped victims of Oct 7 why not?
Only the boomers are believing Israeli Hasbara these days. And there are fewer and fewer of them each year.
Include USA/NATO fascist's hasbara and the death of democracies.
Rescuing innocent hostages is everybody's business. Holding kidnap victims makes these criminals accessories after the fact.
How about the thousands of Palestinian hostages including children, in Israeli prisons, where they are raped and tortured? The Israeli hostages were well taken care of you can’t say the same for Palestinians in Israeli hands?
Don’t you have enough decency to consider their suffering of incarceration by extremely brutal Israeli’s ?
Killing babies is justifiable?
What about the thousands of incarcerated and tortured Palestinian hostages in Zionist-Israeli prisons?
Hamas treated the hostages well, they were not tortured.
Most of Hamas victim's were tortured to death,not taken hostage.
The decent world celebrated these innocent hostages being freed.
Truth is truth,nop matter who says it or to whom.
If the dehumanized Israeli and American Zionists would respect the human rights of the Palestinian people there would have been no hostages to start out with. Dehumanized Israeli and US Zionists are the cause of it.
Zionist massacres of a defenseless nation are the cause.
Hamas rejected Oslo-nuf said.
Oslo was not a fair and just agreement, with a Clinton fair and just was never even possible.
Yeah, why not. Another 64 dead children and 57 dead women might make others think twice but good for the USA for not being amongst them. And you too Timmy.
I am ashamed of US support of Israel. It is truly outrageous to be a party to any of this. Anyone thinking about War Crimes and such?…..
I am.
You are not alone.
War on Gaza: US courts must hold Biden accountable
An upcoming appeal in San Francisco will argue that the president's policies are fueling Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-war-us-courts-biden-administration-must-hold-accountable
This, at the least, lays an important groundwork. The ICC only accepts cases if the perp's own country is incompetent to try it. Presuming the appellate court accepts the lower court's refusal, the path is clear to file against Biden/Blinken/Austin at the ICC.
Fingers, toes any and all appendages crossed.
Unfortunately fed courts have already ruled earlier in this genocide that most all actions the USGOV takes outside the borders of the nation is the purview of the Executive branch and not under the SC's jurisdiction, as long as Congress continues to fund the Executive.
USA/NATO have politicized and corrupted all international political institutions including international law and the UN big time.
The USA HAS BECOME THE CURSE of the planet earth.
So move to Russia or China.
Americans who have visited or live there like it in China and Russia. Many Americans have moved to live in other countries, and why not? America is not the only place to live, I know you have been told it is the best and greatest. Russians and Chinese do love their countries, does that bother you?
Or you and your ilk can move and we can have peaceful country that isn't doing the bidding of Apartheid states like Israel.
It figures. No one is above the law except for organized crime in US gov’t.
When is enough going to be enough for God Almighty?
So leave.
During the trojan horse murder spree, it was reported that they rescued 4, but killed 3 of their own hostages.
Hala Jaber ~ HalaJaber
!! According to Al-Qasam brigades, three #Israeli hostages, including one with #US citizenship, were killed yesterday
disgraceful
predictible
War is bad.Don't start one.
This isn’t war. This is Genocide you sociopathic shithead.
It isn't genocide.
Oh dear, have you suffered a recent illness, injury or other event that is disrupting your memory processes? You have my deepest sympathies, I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you, I hope you’re able to recover quickly.
Assuming you wish to correct your memory loss soonest, particularly in a matter of such great human suffering and global import, following is the link to all the ICJ (International Court of Justice) documents in the case of “Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel)” https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192
I wish you all the best.
You should not describe yourself when arguing with others.
The ICJ is a joke. They are very selective as to the cases the open, and don’t hesitate to be swayed by politics. In short, they are as bad as you are.
HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA!. I will tell your mommy!
Don't precipitate a war by warehousing 2.3 million people in an open air prison while you steal their land
So give your home back to native Americans.
The US, Canada, Austrailia are all examples of 'successful' Genocides. But after 76 years of trying with ethnic cleansing – or "transfer" as the Zionist leaders called it – and now Genocide the Palestinians just refuse to relinquish their rights, no matter how many Israel murders. They have a word for it, صابر, or 'steadfast.'
Oct 7 just set the Palestinian cause back 132 years.
In case you didn’t know, Native American reservations aren’t patrolled by armed guards. That kinda went away about 100 years ago.
Did you never hear of the Reservation Police? Navaho police?
Never with a defense of Israel not stealing land. More childish "I know you are but what am I" type nonsense.
I am curious, do you really believe your BS?
If he is not a certified psychopath, he has to. He has to cling on to it with all his might. This is how the Germans must have dulled their consciences and defeated their humanity and linger in that state of knowing but not knowing, not wanting to know and then succeed. It is not possible to live with oneself otherwise.
There is a saying: Ignorance is bliss. That would be the much easier way to go, refusal to know. But the Israelis advertise their crimes in our face, I guess that pretty much makes it difficult to be ignorant . He must be a certified psychopath.
We should not engage with trolls.
The banality of evil.
War is terrible. How is that inaccurate or "BS," as you claim?
That is not my question, I asked about the “BS” he is posting.
And I asked how is it “BS?” and war is still terrible. Hamas was stupid.
Hamas forced the Israeli-Zionists to show their true colors, how brutal and evil they really are. They forced Western Democracies to look in the mirror and see how ugly, brutal and viscous they really are.
Hamas started a war. we already knew what the Israelis would do. People like you need to look in the mirror and start realizing just how stupid you are. Your type will swallow any lie that is convenient to you. It really is a deep shame to you.
People like you should read a book once in a while, you may learn something.
You live in a fantasy world. I’ve kept up with the goings on in the Levant. What you’ve been reading is nothing but lies.
You only read confirmation of your narrative.
You have no idea what I read. If I didn’t come a read the stupidity often posted here, I would not be able to see the utter lack of attachment to reality of your ilk and would not understand where you come from. I have as yet to see a reasoned case of the stupidity that gets posted here.
I do think you base your opinion on what government people like Biden and Blinken and others and MSM tell you. Do you really pay attention to what Blinken has to say? Do you believe him?
I have a simple question I can’t get an answer from people on your side of the issue, maybe you can tell me. “Do the Palestinians have human rights, and if so what are they?”
Like so many nutty leftists, you base your opinion on the fact that someone would dare to disagree with you, they must be some sort of mindless idiot listening to propaganda. I have stated the facts. If you don’t like them, that’s a personal problem on your part.
I hate to tell you this, but the same goes for you, like it or not, it is a fact.
Like it or not, what you spewed was a lie. Facts are utterly divorced from all your posts.
Prove it.
If you had any attachment to reality, no proof would be needed. I’ve already pointed out, using the UN definition of genocide that what is happening is not genocide. Truth is something you hate. You’re no better than the Germans of 1933 to 1945 who bought Hitler’s junk. Neither they, nor you now, have engaged in critical thinking. You have been deceived and duped by enemies of the country.
You are making accusations against me, it is your job to back up your allegations, I don’t have anything to prove, the facts are public knowledge. DC and Tel Aviv are the leading capitals of lying governing officials. MSM omits pertinent facts, deliberate deception is lying. Critical journalists get fired like in the McCarthy era.
Same old nonsense you keep posting. I have stated the facts and you have stated fantasies. Never the twain shall meet. The branch of teh MSM you believe has been lying to you just as the rest do. Worse, you have been deceived because you don’t think critically. Your no better than the Germans of 1933. or the Russians of 2024. Both were/are deceived just as you are.
Let me make something clear, democratic leaders are as brutal as are all the RW dictators they put in power with regime changes. Western democracies’ leaders are brutal war criminals. Israel is the bright example, they pulled the velvet gloves off the iron fists and the masks off their face and show the real face behind the mask. The brutality with which they wage war against women and children seeks an equal. The Americans used nuclear bombs, carpet bombed cities when they had already won the war, they invent the most weapons, the nuclear bombs and 2000 pound bombs, agent orange, white phosphor, they torture people and assassinate, starve people to death including children. They do what any brutal dictator does and more. Israel has its own huge Guantanamo, Democracy is a farce, it is government in the hands of sophisticated war criminals.
You live in a fantasy land, and that is the most charitable description of your intellectual life. Have nice life, but that will very hard given you are so susceptible to deception.
You can’t face the truth. Leaders of democracies are war criminals. Israelis show what democracies are capable of. Israel is a democracy and so is Ukraine, right?
You’re utterly hilarious in your willful ignorance.
You make no sense. I don’t care what you believe or not. I don’t care about your opinion, I know my opinion and the facts I trust to be true it is based on.
Of course I make no sense. I engage in critical thinking and you are utterly divorced from it. You have an opinion, and it is based on the kind of lies you love. So, stay in that fantasy land you love so well.
May I ask, why are you so offensive, just because I have a different opinion than you have?
You are supposing he can read;;;;;
I think you made a " small" mistake, the stupid one is you.
You leftists live on projection.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93265db2c31633316d84e8b0bf1b82f83e495cdd0236adf4e46c8a533049d9ba.jpg
I don’t have to dislike someone to think they aren’t a leftist. They just have to be people that swallow blatant lies when the truth is available. You do, however, live on projection. It’s just how you live.
By the by, there are better images of Skipper available.
“I don’t have to dislike someone to think they aren’t a leftist.”
True.
You don’t have to think at all.
And on the basis of the evidence, it seems unlikely that you do.
Thinking is what your ilk do not do. You prove that with every post and so do your partners in crime.
I am in great company, there is nothing I need to be ashamed of.
The fact you live in a fantasy land is more than enough to be ashamed of. It matters not a whit how many live there with you. It is still a deep and abiding shame to you.
Actually your posts make you sound like you are trolling for Israel. Julio and Tim are missing.
If I troll, I troll for the facts. You troll for lies.
Nice to know, you are honest, you are trolling. Thanks for the info.
And you troll for lies. You aren’t at all honest. What I do is trolling because of your love of lies.
So take up arms and go fight for Hamas.
Lysistrata is a decent person and does not want to kill hapless IDF " soldiers…
I support the fight for human rights of the Palestinian people, that is what Hamas, Palestinians, are doing for their people because no one else does it for them.
They have had success, it forced the criminal major western democracies to look in the mirror and see how evil their ganging up in support of the Israeli war crimes really are.
Go look in a mirror.
Do you really believe that Oct 7 was not an atrocity? That Hamas is not sacrificing its own people?
It was an Israeli atrocity, they killed their own people, including hostages, they proved the Israeli atrocious brutality which they are capable of, as they did so many times before and ever since.
Even war has rules. What Israel is doing isn't war.
Use of rape and castration isn't war,its a pogrom.
And Israel should cease doing that immediately.
Are you in the USA? The country that started wars the most? It is always a question of who started what and when? History does not start from you want.
We are not talking of Vietnam here-we speak of Gaza.
Hamas has issued standing orders to kill any hostage that is about to be rescued.
The war is a disgrace, and it rests on the heads of Hamas.
LOL, "according to Israeli officials," who lie endlessly, like 40 decapitate babies and it's most moral army. But the biggest and longest lie is the one they’ve been telling for more than 7 decades, the one they still tell denying the 400+ Palestinian villages they destroyed, the 33 massacres of men, women and children and the million Palestinians the Israelis expelled from their homes under threat of death.
Unlike all the many lies we get from “Israeli officials” we know the truth from the archival evidence the ‘New Historians’ unearthed in declassified Israeli and UK mandate documents not just of the ethnic cleansing begun and continuing from 1947, but that it was planned before the Israel declared itself a Nation.
It is not war, it is genocide and after decades of oppression and ethnic cleansing, sadly, Oct 7th was inevitable. Armed resistance is lawful, war crimes are not.
It is not genocide. You pick and choose what you want to see or hear. October 7th was inevitable because Hamas has sworn the destruction of Israel, and October 7th was simply the start of the most recent attempt.
LOL, do you have your responses in an e-8Ball or hot keys? You really should do some updating, you're age is showing.
Given the US's complicity in that "not" but checks all the definition of Genocide boxes, combined with it's fall in the world power hierarchy and addition of two more wars to it's Lost Wars List I hope you're well-stocked in whatever reality-avoidance substance you're consuming.
You’re utterly hilarious. What is going on does not “check all the boxes” because it isn’t genocide no matter what the news organs in that fantasy land you call home tell you.
Child, your intellectual age is showing, and it isn’t anything that would survive 5 minutes among adults.
Your replies are curiously nonsensical, even with access to the legal record provided you, you’ve chosen to remain intentionally and manifestly ignorant of a matter of grave consequence to the state of Israel and it's US collaborator.
As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once noted, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts,” which in your case is interestingly the complete absence of facts undergirding opinion. Thus begging the question of what your motive might be. A sincere desire to support Israel wouldn’t be performed with such ostentatious ignorance.
If it is solely the amusement you claim and appear to be delighting in it’s emotion beyond schadenfreude, more in the range of a sadist’s personality, appropriate for the archetypal evil of Genocide.
What a hoot you are. You don’t like what I say because I point out the fact that you are a liar. Tough on you.
By the by, what is going on in Gaza is not genocide. You don’t even know what the term means.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide
Oh please!
You intentionally bypass this:
“genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,”
proving that Israel means to destroy everyone in Gaza would take a real twisting of the facts to get there. in short, and I will say it again, there is no genocide being committed in Gaza. You still have not absorbed the meaning of the term.
You really have great ignorance of the complete circumstances and history. After slaughtering over 200 people and injuring more, upwards of 400, they are changing their approach. Israel doesn’t care, they have been killing their own hostages.
I am well aware of the history of which you are pig ignorant. You see what you want to see, and blame the wrong people at every turn.
You are a psychopath, if you know history and blame hamas.
I know history and hold Hamas to blame for what they have done. The truth is what it is and is in no way psychopathic. What is sociopathic is the sort of garbage you post as it is nothing but lies.
I bring receipts .
Sure you do. You bring propaganda. You have what you cherry pick among the lies you hear and read.
You really project. Get some help with that.
Projection is your specialty not mine. That is simply a childish attempt to get around the facts as they stand. You have posted lies and propaganda. Deal with it.
You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the ass.
There you go, describing yourself again. You like lies, and have shown what you are, and it isn’t anything to be proud of.
You are the most boring apologist for genocide. They really should get better people.
I’m finished with this infantile, shallow conversation. Have a nice day.
You made it infantile and shallow. Your problem is self inflicted.
Have a nice life.
You have no arguments.
Looking in the mirror again, I see.
The Times of Israel is propaganda too?
You’re hilariously daft.
But true, they usually cover Israel’s ass.
Mad is what you are. You try to cherry pick what you post and leave out the stuff that reflects badly on Hamas. As a result, even if you post something that might be true, but because you have not told the entire truth, you posted lies.
You really project.
You’re looking in the mirror again.
I know you are, but what am I? Nanner nanner!
Since you don’t know, you are a person with a weak mind and no ability to think critically. It doesn’t have to remain that way, but that is your choice.
No need to thank me.
So you’re okay with the nabka? Stealing land?
The fact that Zionist leaders in Germany were willing to sacrifice people for the power of a state of ethnosupremacy? That they deterred the boycott of German goods which could have destroyed Germany since their economy was in the toilet? That they never helped their people get arms during this struggle and horrific times of the Holocaust , so they could bargain with Nazis for safe passage for themselves to Palestine with a good amount of their wealth?
You don’t bother to know history. You repeat narratives without any basis in reality and then you attack people for pointing this out to you, while you want a pass from anyone calling out your bullshit.
You’re think murder is just peachy as long as the victims are Israeli. You only think you know history. All you got, instead, was lies. No one called out any BS I have posted because no one has found any yet, contra your whining. Narratives – now that is really funny. That’s all you have posted. A narrative of lies.
Strawman.
You can wish. All you’re trying to do is dodge reality.
Where in my comments did I ever say that I didn’t care about Israeli deaths? In fact I made note of Israeli leaders being indifferent to their deaths. And from the very start.
The implication of lack of any care for Israelis is pretty plain to any reasonable person reading your garbage. If Israeli leaders we5re indifferent, there would not be a war going on.
The war is going on to complete ethnic cleansing.
So, where are they being deported to? You need to think about what you are going to say before you click “post.”
It’s not a war. It’s genocide and ethnic cleansing. This is the opinion of many international Human rights groups. I guess they are all lying.
Sure it. Where are the Israelis piling the bodies like cord wood? Where are the Israelis deporting people to?
If genocide were occurring, the Israelis would have been killing people and leaving behind a desert devoid of human life. It isn’t happening. What you are calling genocide doesn’t even meet the UN definition as I pointed out here in the last few days.
It is the exact definition. You are incredibly daft. Have a nice life in fantasy.
Fantasy land is where you live. You have no idea genocide is. Lies are your life.
Right. So the UN lies? The Holocaust scholar lies? Everyone on Earth lies except you.
Keep raving mindlessly.
What is going on in Gaza does not meet the UN’s definition of genocide. I’ve already pointed out why earlier.
You didn’t answer the question.
You either can't read, or you didn't like the answer.
So everyone is lying but you.
You said that, not me. The people that aren’t lying are people you hate because truth is something you hate. and as I said, you didn’t like the answer, but I’m not going to play your nutty leftist game.
You think childish insults are cogent retorts.
Is the Holocaust scholar lying?
Irrelevant. That has not entered in the argument. But, changing the subject is typical of you leftist children when you run out of other stuff. You have nothing, because genocide is not what is happening in Gaza.
It is part of the argument. Multiple experts have identified a genocide, you call it lies, hence you think you know more than he or you are calling him a liar.
ISRAEL’S APARTHEID
AGAINST PALESTINIANS
CRUEL SYSTEM OF DOMINATION AND CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY
https://www.amnesty.nl/content/uploads/2022/01/Executive-Summary_Israels-Apartheid-Against-Palestinians.pdf?x91355#page22
UN expert accuses Israel of ‘genocide’ in Gaza
Francesca Albanese says there are clear indications that Israel has violated three of five acts listed under UN Genocide Convention.
the UN Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese said there are clear indications that Israel has violated three of the five acts listed under the UN Genocide Convention.
Albanese, appointed by the UN Human Rights Council but not an official voice on behalf of the United Nations, said she had found “reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of … acts of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza has been met”.
“The overwhelming nature and scale of Israel’s assault on Gaza and the destructive conditions of life it has inflicted reveal an intent to physically destroy Palestinians as a group,” she said.
More than 70 percent of the recorded deaths have been women and children and Israel has failed to prove that the remaining 30 percent – adult males – were active Hamas fighters, she said.
Regarding the second violated act, Albanese said Israeli forces have wounded more than 70,000 Palestinians and detained thousands of Palestinian men and boys, subjecting them to torture and mistreatment.
On the third act, Albanese said Israel has destroyed or severely damaged most of Gaza’s life-sustaining infrastructure, including hospitals and agricultural land.
“Israel’s genocide of Palestinians in Gaza is an escalatory stage of a long-standing settler colonial process of erasure,” said said.
Additionally, calls for “violent annihilation” from Israeli high-ranking officials aimed at soldiers on duty on the ground serve as “compelling evidence of explicit and public encouragement to commit genocide,” Albanese added.
And Un “experts” are so consistent in such judgments, not to mention utterly truthful. You’ve been deceived, and is obviously quite easy to deceive you. Have a nice life. But given the sort of sources you give credence to, that will be rather hard, and there will be huge price for you to pay.
Right. Why do they lie? Everyone is lying but you.
BTW, there is video, images, witness statements.
You would’ve made an awfully good WWII German. And are you threatening me?
It certainly does:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Article III
The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
nd I will point out what I pointed out early:
“genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”
So, you must show that Israel intends to destroy Gazans, even in part, and that means more than your insane mental meanderings about what is going on. Israel is not stacking bodies like cord wood. They, instead, have done what they can to avoid civilian deaths. Because of your hatred and bigotry, no matter how weak the “evidence” they are genocidal idiots. Nothing matters but what you wish to accuse them of. It matters not a whit that you have nothing to show such intent. All that matters is you think they are doing it, and that is utterly idiotic on your part.
“So, you must show that Israel intends to destroy Gazans, even in part”
Well, OK.
“Right now, one goal: Nakba:. A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 1948.” — Ariel Kallner, Knesset member for Likud
“Emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.” — IDF spokesperson Danie Hagari
“It’s time for a doomsday weapon. Not flattening a neighborhood. Crushing and flattening Gaza.” — Tally Gotliv, Knesset member for Likud
“Erase Gaza from the face of the earth. Let the Gazan monsters rush to the southern border and flee into Egypt, or die. And let them die badly. Gaza should be wiped off the map, and fire and brimstone on the heads of the Nazis in Judea and Samaria. Jewish wrath to shake the earth around the world. We need a cruel, vengeful IDF here. Anything less is immoral.” — Galit Distel-Atbaryan, Knesset member for Likud
“The State of Israel will no longer be able to accept the existence of an independent entity in Gaza.” — Bezalel Smotrich, Israeli finance minister
“The entire Gaza Strip should be emptied and levelled flat, just like in Auschwitz. Let it become a museum, showcasing the capabilities of the State of Israel and dissuading anyone from living in the Gaza Strip.” — David Azoulay, council head of Metula
You were saying?
When Putin threatens with nukes do you believe the man? If you believe every politician that mouths off like an idiot, you must be really, really busy.
They have done nothing to avoid civilian deaths.
Israel Committing ‘Textbook Case of Genocide,’ Holocaust Historian Says
The assault on Gaza is “a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes,” Raz Segal, associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University, wrote in a piece for Jewish Currents, a progressive Jewish magazine, published on October 13.
In the article and in an interview with Democracy Now!, Segal pointed out that genocide is defined in the December 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as five acts committed with “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.”
Segal wrote that Israeli leaders and officials have made their intent clear, noting Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s comments about “fighting human animals” and Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson Daniel Hagari saying the “emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.”
Segal said Israel is perpetrating three of the five acts that fall under the U.N. convention’s definition.
“The dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act,” he said.
Israel “is also perpetrating act number two and three—that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating conditions designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals,” Segal added, noting that the World Health Organization has called the orders to evacuate hospitals “a death sentence for the sick and injured.”
“So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide,” he said.
https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-historian-israel-committing-genocide-raz-segal-1835346
"…. tragically killed." There are probably no more than a hand of people that could say those words with less sincerity than Sullivan.
If only there were one state on this doubtlessly doomed planet that had the courage to take the US to the ICJ for complicity in Genocide. Malaysia held a tribunal charging Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and a couple others in their admin with war crimes and won. If only …
They were intentionally killed.
They are all intentionally killed in Gaza AND the WB.
They won, and then what? Cheney even had a heart transplant to live a long and happy life as Bush and Rumsfeld did. We don't even know if there is a hell for them.
Believe your eyes, we all see the destruction, we all see the dead bodies, we all see the population looking starved. The USA/Israel are committing WAR CRIMES and in a world of technology, they can NOT hide. It is time for Musk to be investigated, for providing Israel with tools to slaughter unarmed civilians.
Meanwhile, boycott X.
Twitter/x is a limited hangout. Musk is using Israeli spyware and collecting data on users. People with checkmarks actually have to provide private documents.
This is rapidly becoming a real-life Team America™ moment- why is it we can't touch ANYTHING without a disaster unfolding? It can't be by accident- either we have cold, calculated death and destruction OR we are cursed with incompetence from the top down. We have a tendency to look at other nations' issues in terms of our own laws and norms- if this had played out in the US, with police forces killing 270+ civilians in a rescue operation that saved 4 hostages and killed 3, you wouldn't be able to hear yourself think over the howls of indignation and anger. Within minutes there would be calls for firings and lawsuits and death threats galore against those responsible- so one might ask, why isn't the US government doing the same with the Israelis? Simple: our government is complicit in these crimes and I suspect it won't be long before the ICC puts the spotlight on Washington itself (as if that will do any good as we ignore anything the ICC says unless it's to our advantage- much like Israel).
Hamas used civilians to do their dirty work-civilians got killed.
And the Israeli's obliged them. It's like you think Israel is exonerated because they were cold hearted bastards who were willing to pull the trigger and drop the bombs on innocent civilians.
Israel’s military said a special forces officer was killed in exchanges of fire with militants emerging from cover in residential blocks, and that it knew of “under 100” Palestinians killed, though not how many of them were fighters or civilians.
Since one Israeli was killed it would seem that the vast majority that they killed weren't fighters. But that's how the Israelis roll. Shooting fish in a barrel.
Thats war-don't start one.
True. Shooting fish in a barrel is war for Israel. They'd never go toe to toe with an equally armed foe or without daddy warbucks sending them billions in state-of-the-art weaponry.
Was the 'average joe' german in germany, say in 1930-1945,accountable,responsible,guilty for https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fbf31b6aabc5d66ccc340fe7353b161786458b7e5a8c4a99e16311e0725cf73.png what was done in their name,with their complicity, with their tax dollars,etc???
ARE WE??????????????????????
It was collective guilt, all Germans were guilty. Not long ago they deported a 90 year old woman to Germany to serve her sentence, she was a young secretary in a concentration camp, as I understand.
Some details on the case you cite:
In 1944; the women was a 18 year old civilian pool typist in a labor camp in which 10,000 people died. She was arrested and tried by German courts in 2021 ( I think ) and found guilty of war crimes.
The Takeaway: a 20 year old State depart clerk making out purchase orders for weapons to be shipped to the IDF has a long LONG time to be worried about being arrested for war crimes.
Thanks for the info, at 18 she may have been drafted for the job. She was a clerk and very young and apparently it was a labor camp. I knew a woman who was sentenced to 6 months in a labor camp because she refused to work in a weapons factory, she was a conscientious objector to any wars.
Somewhat interesting back in the 1950s she was a key witness in war crimes trials of some of the camp admins. Maybe that’s how her name eventually came up decades later. No idea
Yes, soon the famous bridge will be on sale for $1,with a green moon pie thrown in.
All Germans were not guilty-those that did bad things were guilty,and only a few were punished.
All Palestinians are not guilty and not all Israelis are guilty.
Crooke claims over 80% of Israelis agree with what the government is doing to Gaza.
I believe it, there are some 20% left, and some of them have “no opinion” , if that is even possible.
I hear many Israelis have left Israel and many are in the process to leave applying for passports. Many have dual citizenship. The Israeli economy is facing the consequences of the Zionist’s acts of government. That may be more the real reason behind the hostage demonstrations. MSM most likely knowingly omits mentioning it.
Holding Americans responsible for the federal government funding Israel's genocide is like holding a mugging victim responsible for a school shooting when the mugger uses his stolen wallet to buy an AR-15 and then hands it to a mass shooter.
The only genocide was on Oct 7.the rest is liberation.
Oct. 7 most Israelis were killed by the IDF thugs. The Israelis were suppose to investigate their crime, so far there is church like silence, they found nothing just like the NS pipeline sabotage.
Reminds me of those traitors that thought by giving Stalin the bomb,the world would be at peace. Or 9184-war is peace.
A genocide of less that 800 civilians. At least a portion of them killed by friendly fire. As compared to 2.3 million being liberated from their homes. But numbers don't matter when your life is so much more important than "cockroaches" or "animals".
No. I stopped voting ten years ago; and I have been angry about what my country has done "in our names" for many many years before that. Everyone is deceived and manipulated. The truth is hidden and buried beneath mounds of misinformation, misdirection, obfuscation and lies. How can the average person be held responsible? Many are too busy to even read the daily news, let alone all the history that precedes an event or war.
I feel that's the reason they want us to play their rigged game and vote, (other than the more obvious reasons of the lucrative campaign business) so that we become the scapegoats for their cruel and evil deeds. Well, I do not consent and neither would the average person, no matter who they are or where they live in this world.
The net outcome of Nuseirat Operation = Zero
Zero achievement is notorious in Israel…!
Only we see innocent hostages reunited with their families inIsrael-truly truly glorious.
What in God's name can be glorious of the undisciplined sadistic IDF scumbags?
War criminals are in charge of the NATO democracies, name one government official with honor and dignity.
Who admits to a shred of responsibility in any democratic NATO government?
Spineless, characterless trained liars is all we have. Fascists control free speech blocking information and honest rational debate.
It is not only Biden who is demented, his advisers are deranged s**m too. There are no people with honor in charge of this government, and the opposition is just as bad.
Israel/USA the leading nuclear terrorist nations ganging up against unarmed Palestinians most of them more than 60% are women and children in a most brutal way of massacres and starvation. The NAZIS WERE BAD, but the dehumanized Israeli and American Zionists are even worse.
Palestinian rapist terrorists are getting their just deserts.
You are hateful, aren’t you? We also have lots of very brutal IDF rapists, as well as rapists not wearing uniforms.
Name them. Show us the films.
Where there are men there are rapists, what proof do you need?
Name the Hamas rapists. Show us the films. Same source as the 40 beheaded babies?
Truth and justice.
"Israeli warplanes pounded Nuseirat as the Israeli commandos on the ground moved to locate the hostages. "
Bombing innocent civilians before attacking! Wow, these guys are really cowards. However, they will be known as heroes in Israel.
They ARE heroes.
Yes, they are. At least in the eyes of people who only know how to fight if the odds and the weapons are monumentally superior to anyone they are fighting.
When 5 Arab armies invaded israel,two of which were well armed and trained by the Brits-they still got whuuuuped!
All those US personnel to the Hague.
Starting at the top.
Duh…….Why does the Arab and Muslim world hate the US? It's a mystery.
Because we represent freedom and progress.
Your usual and expected BS.
You have been f,,,,,,ed every day of your life and are . still, oblivious to reality. I suppose this is what happens when one can not finish even the grad school.
Holy fuck! George W Bush has spoken.
It is willful denial in MHO. Ignorance is bliss, ask Jake, he knows.
Slaughtering women and children… Hey, it's what we do, it's who we are.
war crimes and crimes against humanity now days have a UNIVERSAL AND AGREED TO DEFINITION.
The thing is ive learned and try to adhere to: i dont give a fuck what you think you are,whatever, thats fine, its WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS that concerns me..
Simply: [Its not who you are, but what you do that matters]
And what did was the results of this black op yield us?… One dead American detainee.
WTG Genocide Joe.
3 live hostages.
None of whom were American.
what the fuck is the difference? 3 live hostages freed.
The question was what did this abortion yield US.
Where is your loyalty?
You have to ask where his loyalty is?
64 dead women. 57 dead children. But they don't matter. They haven't since the butchering began.
Sad, but Hamas started a war and the death and destruction that comes with it is on their heads.
Zionist Irgun terrorists started the brutality against the Palestinian people more than a century ago, before there was an Israel. Israelis deny the Palestinian their human rights. It is not part of your narrative, but it should be, it is historic facts. Israel is only 76 years old, think about that.
know of the Irgun, and why they did what they did. I have as much use for them as I do Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel being 76 years old is irrelevant.
Some Jews and Arabs got along then,some still do. Some Arab bandits raided peaceful Jewish settlements,and ultimately led to the formation of the Haganah.
BS again from you.
Sad, but Israel being the Occupier does not have the right under Article 51 to self defense, under international law Israel started an illegal war.
Israel was not occupying anything. The Gazans had their land to themselves and could have made a go of it. Instead, they gave way to their sworn occupation of destroying Israel.
The first shots were fired by Hamas, not Israel. You are quite choosy as to whom you wish to blame. The Gazans brought it on themselves.
That is just nonsense. Israel controlled everything that went in and out. "Mowing the grass" once in a while and keeping them at over 30% food insecure isn't exactly having the land to themselves.
The Israelis are responsible for their reaction to Hamas' attack. Killing with impunity and disregarding the lives of civilians isn't allowed. Not even if the other side starts it.
What you posted is nonsense. Hamas forced the Israelis to do what they did. They were actually starting to ease off, but then Hamas got stupid again. As Abba Eben expressed it, “The Palestinians never miss and opportunity to miss an opportunity.”
The Israelis have done their best to minimize civilian casualties. That you seem unaware of that is another serious black mark in your copy book.
"The Israelis have done their best to minimize civilian casualties."
What you said was hogwash. And then you got to that, and it made your hogwash sound brilliant in comparison. Still hogwash but not as farfetched as saying Israel tried to minimize civilian casualties. Israel made their own choices. There was a ton of space between purposely making the place uninhabitable and creating a famine and doing nothing. I guess starving people to death rates as "their best".
No, that is the truth, and it is something they have always done. When you warn what is coming, hours before you do it and ask civilians to get out of the way, there is nothing more they can do and still fulfill the mission. What ever you call that, it is the only thing they can do, and Hamas, alas, uses them as shields.
You best friends in Hamas, don’t care whose blood it is, just as long as it isn’t the guys hiding in Qatar and giving orders.
Hamas brought it on Gaza. You have a serious problem in recognizing the people who are actually the baddies, because you have taken to side of the baddies.
Ok. I live in a town of 15,000. Now if we're given HOURS of warning to get out of the way because our town is going to be bombed do you think all 15,000 are going to be able to leave? The elderly? The sick and infirmed? And would there be a chance that all 15, ooo wouldn't get the word? Now think about over 1 million people given hours to leave and it isn't very hard to figure out that the time given wasn't nearly enough and the ensuing carnage was assured. Not only that but the places these people were told to flee to didn't have nearly enough resources to take care of such an influx of humanity. Did Israel make any attempt to make sure that there was enough aid for these people that were fleeing? Hell no, they did the opposite and cut a large percentage of the already inadequate aid that was getting in. But Israel, the "good guys", weren't finished. They bombed each and every place those poor people were told to flee to. And when they all ended up in Rafah, Israel told them to leave that area too. And again, to an area not equipped to feed and shelter over 1 million people. But that was the ONLY thing Israel could do. My ass it was. And when someone is sick enough to use innocent humans as shields it takes someone just as sick to indiscriminately mow them down. Which Israel did and continues to do.
Ah yes, my "best friends in Hamas". The favorite of the Israeli trolls. Sorry to disappoint, but you'll have to use some other bullshit talking point. I'm not a fan of either side.
Israel made their own choices on how to respond. They can blame Hamas if they like but indiscriminately killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people is still on them. Hamas wasn't/isn't remotely an exestential threat and Israel's resonse is what actual terrorism looks like. And THOSE are the ones whose side YOU have taken.
“The favorite of the Israeli trolls.”
This where you lost me. You might have made something of a case on the warning part, but you just had to go wandering off into left field. They don’t have to move far, but such facts don’t matter a bit to you. The killing is not indiscriminate no matter how much you tell that lie. Hamas is in the position they are in because of their sworn goal of ending the existence of Israel. Perhaps in your warped mind that is not an existential threat, but you shown that you are not a reasonable individual. Hamas and Hezbollah are both existential threats to Israel no matter what kind of fantasies you may erect in the fantasy world you have built.
Israel has done what they could to prevent killings of civilians, and Hamas has done their best to use people as shields for their criminal behavior, and you have supported their criminality.
How did I lose you by saying that? Are your comprehension skills weak? I didn't say a damn thing about supporting Hamas. But once someone bitches about Israel's indiscriminate slaughter, they're labeled as "terrorist" supporters. Dropping 25,000 tons (first 6 weeks of slaughter) of bombs on a 141 square miles packed with 2.3 million people is what exactly if not indiscriminate? Using 2000 lb bombs in residential areas where civilians, mainly women and children, are packed isn't indiscriminate killing? Limiting aid that was already inadequate before the invasion creating a famine isn't indiscriminate killing? How about when they bomb 3 separate cars before they finally killed those aid workes? Not indiscriminate? Bombing refugee tents? What exactly would qualify, in your mind, as indiscriminate killing? Tell me how any of what I said is fantasy.
A group that that isn't capable of being an existential threat does NOT qualify as being an existential threat regardless of their rhetoric. Israel has vastly superior weaponry and has the world's superpower in their back pocket. Thinking either Hamas or Hezbollah can destroy Israe is the real fantasy thinking.
Israel hasn't done a damn thing to ensure the safety of civilians and they would have done even less if not for the urging of the US. And the US only urged fewer civilian deaths because it was bad PR. And once more with the human shield bullshit excuse. I keep repeating myself but I'll do it again. It takes a cold hearted killer to oblige the cold hearted bastaeds using human shields and Israel has played the part of cold hearted killer to perfection.
You obviously don’t pay attention to what you say. You lost me because you lied. You’ve lied about me, you’ve lied about Hamas, you’ve lied about the Israelis.
Stay in your fantasy land.
Tell me where I lied and refute those lies. You can't. The numbers don't lie. And you trying to pin me as a Hamas supporter even though I haven't said a damn thing in support of them proves my accusation that you Israeli trolls use that when you have nothing left to use. I'm against indiscriminate killing whether done by Hamas or the IDF. In this situation, the IDF has been doing the most indiscriminate killing by LEAPS AND BOUNDS. Not. Even. Close.
Your numbers do lie. Your sources are liars, and you’ve merely parroted those lies making you a liar. The IDF has not engaged in indiscriminate killing, and your “proof” is from sources of known liars. You accept what you wish to accept and have not engaged in any nota bit, of critical thinking, because you simply hate irrationally.
Hamas got themselves into the situation they are in, and you love the killers and murderers of Hamas. Say that is a strawman all you like, but that is what you have shown by your posts.
So, Israel didn't use 2000lb bombs in residential areas? Israel didn't drop 25,000 tons of bombs in the first 6 weeks of the war? Humanitarian aid wasn't cut to a fraction of the already inadequate aid that was getting in before Oct 7th? I could go on but please tell me what the real truth is. And here is one of my sources:
“They’re starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place,” Biden said.
I could give you quotes from other US government officials about the humanitarian crisis, but you'd just say those were lies also.
"Hamas got themselves into the situation they are in, and you love the killers and murderers of Hamas. Say that is a strawman all you like, but that is what you have shown by your posts."
You keep saying this, but you don't quote me on anything that I've said that proves it. Why? Because you can't. But it's the only thing a troll like yourself can use. It's your only out because what I have said is well known fact. And once more, I'm not concerned about Hamas, I'm concerned about the innocents that continued to get butchered by Israel.
What are your sources? If they are anything like the mess you are spewing, then it is no wonder you have trouble with teh truth.
You obviously have no ability to think critically. No matter what I point out, it just can’t be the truth because it doesn’t match the lies you love so well.
Yeah, you’re not concerned with Hamas, even though they are the people whining about genocide and you spew their propaganda. Your “well known fact” isn’t. You just wish it were.
Seriously? What did I say that wasn't a fact? The 2000 lb bombs? They didn't drop 25,000 tons of bombs on Gaza in the first sis weeks of the war? They didn't allow much less aid in after Oct 7th than before Oct 7th (which was also inadequate)? Answer those questions and if you say no to any of them, you are genuinely full of shit. How about killing those aid workers, didn't happen? They didn't bomb refuge tents? I mean that shit was even in the MSM "news". You'd have to be living under a rock not to acknowledge any of those FACTS I mentioned.
You haven't POINTED ANYTHING OUT! Not a damn thing. You just keep accusing me of "supporting" or "loving" Hamas because that's all you Israeli trolls have when the inconvenient facts are pointed out. My profile is wide open, find something that says that I "support" Hamas.
I'm concerned about innocent people being slaughtered. Period. And Israel is doing the vast majority of that. PERIOD.
You live in a fantasy land of liars and deceptive “sources.” Have nice life, but that will be difficult since it is so easy to deceive you.
Again, point out what I said that wasn't true. And what are you even doing here? Antiwar.com is my source. If you had read any of the articles here, instead of just trolling, you might have an idea as to what the facts are. As is, you are a joke who just ignores reality. Are you getting paid?
“Antiwar.com is my source.”
That’s your problem. It’s the blind leading the blind.
Which subject you want to talk about? 2000 lb bombs? Ok, how about CNN for a source? That'd be right up your alley.
‘Not seen since Vietnam’: Israel dropped hundreds of 2,000-pound bombs on Gaza, analysis shows
Weapons and warfare experts blame the extensive use of heavy munitions such as the 2,000-pound bomb for the soaring death toll. The population of Gaza is packed together much more tightly than almost anywhere else on earth, so the use of such heavy munitions has a profound effect.
“The use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area as densely populated as Gaza means it will take decades for communities to recover,” said John Chappell, advocacy and legal fellow at CIVIC, a DC-based group focused on minimizing civilian harm in conflict. https://www.cnn.com/gaza-is…
“You accept what you wish to accept and have not engaged in any nota bit, of critical thinking, because you simply hate irrationally.”
Filed under “every accusation is a confession.”
Filed under deflection. Standard nutty leftist tactic. You can’t argue with facts, because you have none at all. As I already said, you hate rationality. You’re no better than the Germans of 1933.
Here's a fact for you to argue with:
You're an idiot.
I don’t argue about lies about myself. I leave such garbage to idiots like yourself.
I'd never make the mistake of underestimating the legal mastery and creativity of Ashkenazi lawyers. Lol, Did you thumb through Israel's big Hasbara Book of Tired Tropes? Israel’s claim it’s Gaza occupation ended with it’s 2005 “disengagement” has a bit of a problem. Through over 100 years of jurisprudence occupation continues to be determined not by the presence, or lack, of troops, upon which Israel’s argument hangs, but by the occupier’s “effective control” over the territory.
The majority of International legal judgements are Israel’s control and occupation continued after 2005 exhibited through the continuance and expansion of it “harsh border regime” that’s kept Gaza separate from Israel beginning with the Kibbutzim into concrete walls above and below ground, aerial surveillance, cameras, motion sensors, weaponry, and the blockade imposed since 2007.
Debate should be settled by ICJ ruling on the UN’s advisory request re: “Legal Consequences arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem.” Hearings were held 01/19-26/24. Full document repository: https://www.icj-cij.org/cas…
Cheers!
The ICJ has proven itself to be a joke. It is politically swayed and not reliable judicially. The complaint about control is something that has been forced on Israel because of the subversive activities that have gone on in Gaza whenever Hamas has been allowed control over sea access. If Hamas were to prove itself trustworthy, som4thing unlikely to happen given the reason of its existence, then things could ease. The fact they have sworn to destroy Israel makes Hamas an impossible partner in peace. The only peace Hamas will accept is the peace of the grave. Either Hamas’s grave or Israel’s.
By the by, Israel is not a signatory to the treaty that established the ICJ and is not subject to it.
The only occupier ware the Romans and Babylonians.King David built the temple-not to say other faiths are not stakeholders. The Jewish people have come home-get used to it.
You don’t hold people in an open air prison, shoot peaceful protesters, destroy olive groves, kidnap children in the middle of the night, torture prisoners who have committed no crimes, steal their homes, destroy their property, stop movement, restrict nourishment and expect obedience because you believe you are a superior race, without expecting blowback.
Unless you are a slave owner, Nazi or psychopath. Then somehow you think of people as less than human, but in reality, you are describing yourself.
I didn't read your comment before I wrote mine. Well done. You were much more specific.
Thanks wars.
Thank you.