Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba announced Tuesday that Ukraine would be cutting off consular services for military-age men living abroad as a way to pressure them to return home and fight.
“How it looks like now: a man of conscription age went abroad, showed his state that he does not care about its survival, and then comes and wants to receive services from this state,” Kuleba wrote on X. “It does not work this way. Our country is at war.”
Ukraine’s new mobilization law requires all Ukrainian men ages 18 to 60 to update their personal information with the military registration office. If Ukrainians living abroad do not comply, they must be cut off from consular services.
“The obligation to update one’s documents with the conscription centers existed even before the new law on mobilization was passed,” Kuleba said. He added that soon, the Foreign Ministry “will provide further clarifications on the procedure for obtaining consular services within the legal framework for men of conscription age in foreign diplomatic missions.”
According to Reuters, roughly 860,000 adult Ukrainian men live in Europe. Some were able to leave Ukraine despite martial law prohibiting men ages 18 to 60 from leaving the country. Others lived outside of Ukraine before Russia launched its invasion in February 2022.
Ukraine’s manpower shortage is one of the most significant problems the country faces in its war against Russia. Some Ukrainian officials have said that the US and NATO could give Ukraine all the weapons it wants, but there won’t be enough people to use them. On the other hand, Russia’s military is now 15% bigger than it was in February 2022.
Kuleba’s announcement came after the US House of Representatives passed $61 billion in new spending on Ukraine, which will ensure the proxy war continues, but will not help Kyiv’s chances of victory.
So, just end the war.
The war will continue until November, because Biden doesn’t want to be called a loser?
Let’s see. If you are an adult male Ukrainian living abroad, your choices are:
1) Stay where you are sans consular services(e.g. you won’t be able to get your passport renewed).
2) Go home and be fed into a meat grinder.
Gee, I would have to think long and hard over that one.
They can migrate to Russia where the asylum is guaranteed. Millions of ethnic Ukrainians did it already.
Conditions could change where conscription might become a requirement in Russia.
Russians better fight, unless they want as their new leader JoBye the corrupt, senile, perv…that is really what the UniParty wants. 🙁 If I were a Russian I would fight that like a MOFU. LOL!!!
My comment was about Ukrainians, if they took asylum in Russia to avoid fighting the war there, they could get pulled in from the Russian side.
So far it never happened. Russia has enough of volunteers.
How about a trip to the USA Southern Border???? Get free stuff and special treatment… 🙂 Today I would not even fight and die for the DC GHOULS,, USA,,no way. LOL!!
What a “patriot” you are! I’ll bet you’d storm the Capitol though, right?
There was no storming of the capital. Weaponless demonstrators invited into the Capitol by Guards for the most part.
Far far more destruction by the rioters/killers/arsonists/looters in the summer of 2020 when VP KAMEL condoned it all and said, “……and they’re goiing to keep on doing it.”. BTW, one of the places that occurred was Washington D.C.
“Weaponless” in your imagination, perhaps. Maybe you’ve never been sprayed in the face with mace or had a bicycle rack thrown at you.
Many ordinary everyday things can be weapons: a pot of hot coffee, a coffee mug, a fire extinguisher, a pen, keys, a belt, flashlight, a fork, etc. If it can cut, burn, stab, crush or gouge it can be a weapon.
So … if someone approaches you with a fork are you entitled to shot them? If they have the fork in hand on the Capitol steps on January 6, 2021 are the Capitol Police entitled to shoot them? If no, then, maybe you’ve never been stabbed with a fork.
The only person who got shot was a woman who tried to climb through a broken window while the armed cops on the other side, who were protecting the last door between the rioters and the cowering congresscritters. kept yelling at her to stop. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
I saw the video. She wasn’t doing any such thing. The cops shot just to shoot, which is what American police like to do.
Well, which is it — did you see the video, or was she not doing exactly what the video showed her doing?
She was NOT climbing through the broken glass. The cop shot into the crowd. She was unlucky. The cop was a murderer. Funny how a supposed anti-government sort seems to always come down on the side of the US state system.
The next time I come down on the side of the US system will be the first time I’ve done so in close to 40 years.
If it was up to me, the Capitol would be razed and the Capitol Police would be freed up to go find jobs in the productive sector.
But you fantasizing about what happened doesn’t change the fact that she decided to be a violent idiot and paid a price for being a violent idiot.
January 6th was a riot not an insurrection. The majority of the demonstrators didn’t even enter the capitol. The vast majority of those that entered did nothing more than peacefully trespass. A few committed acts of violence like you described. But that often happens at demonstrations. That doesn’t make an insurrection. Prigozhin marching toward Moscow with thousands of armed troops was a real insurrection. January 6th was Biden’s Reichstag fire. The Dems and the MSM are spreading a false narrative about an imaginary insurrection to justify criminalizing their main political opposition. I hate Trump. But Biden and the Democrats with the MSM in tow have done more to destroy American Democracy than Trump did during his term. Both parties are a disgrace to America and threats to freedom, democracy and peace. I will probably vote for Cornel West.
“January 6th was a riot not an insurrection.”
Did I say otherwise?
What it was not was “weaponless.” In some cases weapons were brought. In some other cases, weapons were improvised from materials on-site. That doesn’t say anything about whether it was a “riot” or an “insurrection.”
Under any definition it was the former; under some definitions, including 10 U.S. Code § 253 (“opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States”), it was the latter.
I don’t have any problem with insurrection as such, btw. But the Beer Belly Putsch just didn’t have much going for it.
§253 does not define “insurrection.” It just specifies four conditions , including insurrection, that justify the use of armed forces to quell serious domestic disturbances. Insurrection has never been precisely defined by federal law. In fact, “insurrection” and “rebellion” are different conditions under 18 USC §2383, but neither is clearly defined. Whatever defines insurrection, there have been many demonstrations much more disruptive than the January 6th riot that were not considered insurrections.
https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/rebellion-or-insurrection#:~:text=While%20the%20term%20%22insurrection%22%20is,the%20government%20or%20its%20regulations.
Degree of disruptiveness is not the criterion of insurrection. Intent is.
So you say. The term remains legally undefined.
Logically, however, the criteria must require more than intent. If several individuals at January 6th intended or conspired to overturn the government, that is sedition. Insurrection requires a high level of support and coordination, like the Confederacy or Shay’s Rebellion and a resort to force, usually armed force.
The term may remain legally undefined in your imagination.
It does not, however, remain legally undefined in the law.
It doesn’t really bother me to call it anything you want to call it, though. I prefer to call it the Beer Belly Putsch.
Do you even know the definition of insurrection? They committed the LITTERAL definition of insurrection:
noun
1 an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government.
The rest of what you wrote is right-wing revisionist history.
You’re in denial or you’ve gone overboard with rationalizing what your compatriots did on Jan 6th.
Actually, RT, there is no “legal definition” of insurrection in the USA. The term is used in the 14th amendment and in various sections of the US code, but there is no definition.
https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/rebellion-or-insurrection#:~:text=While%20the%20term%20%22insurrection%22%20is,the%20government%20or%20its%20regulations.
I have attended many demonstrations that were much more violent and disruptive than January 6th that were not insurrections. For example, the May Day demonstrations in DC in 1971 where 12,000 people were arrested in two days attempting to shut down the federal government. Our slogan was “If the government won’t stop the war, we will stop the government.” Humorous that you characterize my POV as “right wing revisionist history.” I was a leftist before you were born. I hate Trump and his MAGA crowd. But I still can tell the difference between an insurrection and a riot. And I recognize that Biden is steering the country toward dictatorship, even if I don’t sympathize with his current target.
Jesus. Get you head out of your ass. Hippies like you sold out at some point. Pretty sad.
Perhaps no different than any large group of people in protests. Lethal weapons for your clarification. God, you’re dense. Perhaps they all had weapons then according to you – fists and kicking feet. And, the ones who were invited into the Congress by the guards were weaponless as I said, or they wouldn’t have been invited in. Context, Thomas!
Sure thing, you insurrectionist supporting POS! You’re no better than ISIS.
You’re no better than a NAZI, you far left EXTREMIST.
Go back to your cult, you MAGA a**wipe.
Nazi calling everyone a nazi.
Dipshit nazi racist.
You guys always give yourselves away.
Fcking nazis calling everyone nazis.
He was one of many running out of the Crocus theater few weeks ago.
Please dont. We can fight our own wars. We dont need Russian nazis pretending to be Americans.
Fly to S America enter US southern border.
Yes, cause you are a coward.
Why aren’t you over there fighting in the great cause?
Talk is cheap, and there is no talk cheaper than your talk.
You all keep saying “end the war”. I’m thinking your fear is taking over. Russia has to get the Ukes to stop fighting and concede before the next delivery of weapons, yes?
Yes, the U.S. government sent Ukraine money to buy U.S. made weapons but those manufacturers aren’t going to be giving any discounts. It’s a grossly inefficient way to fight a war against another country whose government actually owns the weapons making facilities and is located a highway drive away. The ammunition won’t last long or change any outcome, it will just prolong it at a certain kill ratio that hurts Ukrainians more.
Fear? I’ve said end the war since day 1. It’s a senseless war. I want Ukraine to be a successful polity. It needs independence from foreign influence, and it needs to respect its neighbors.
As Russia’s war start s to continue going South, we’ll see more people like you going from Putin lovers to “i always wanted Russia to succeed, i just wanted them to respect their neighbors.”
🤣🤣🤣
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I’ve said the same thing the entire time…
Fear? Project much? Ukraine is dying and you, supposedly a supporter of the Ukrainians, only want Ukraine destroyed and its people dead. You are, objectively, an enemy of the Ukrainian people.
A lot more Russians are dying than Ukes. Too bad they died for Oligarchs to steal more money from the Russian treasury.
Slava Ukraini!
You’re getting your info from the Kiev propaganda factories. When the war is over you will be confronted by the truth, and it won’t align with the Kiev fantasies you’ve invested yourself in. Enjoy your delusions while you can. The shock of reality is coming.
And you get your info from Russian MOD press releases. I’ll see you here after the war (or after Putin’s demise).
I get my info from the calendar. So far, in 790 days, the Russian forces have yet to even secure Donetsk.
So far, Ukraine hasn’t ejected the Russians from the territory they claim as Ukraine. This fact doesn’t mean much by itself. But the correlation forces now favors the Russians. The Ukrainians had their best shot (which wasn’t good at all) and blew it during their great 2023 offensive. The initiative is with the Russians now. Using a map will be more useful to you than a calendar, if you know how to read one.
Yes, I use maps, too.
The Russians had their best shot in February, March, and April of 2022.
Since then, the chances of them ever getting out of this with anything more than Luhansk, Donetsk, and a land corridor to Crimea along the Azov coast descended to between “slim” and “none” and have stayed there ever since.
There’s only one thing that might increase those chances: The US/EU/NATO empire completely abandoning the Ukrainians.
If I could choose someone to be on my enemy’s general staff, I would like you to be that person. It would be an easy win.
No, he is getting it from the uncensored news you aren’t allowed to watch in Russia.
Get telegram and see the war for yourself.
By the way, what happened to your black see fleet?
When are they going to conduct their amphibious landing of Odessa?
Oh, what’s happening to your oil refineries?
What’s happening to your air superiority over Ukraine? Where are your tanks?
Where are your hundreds of thousands of troops that crossed into Ukraine?
Where’s Wagner?
Why cant you retake Krynky? There are only 15 Ukrainians there.
Come on, you cannot be that incompetent and inept.
Haha, you got that from Wars R Us (or Wars R Rus).
Basically:
If you support Ukraine, you are against Ukraine because you dont care about Ukraine.
Yeah, you need to ask for Ukraine to surrender if you support Ukraine. And and, defend Putin at all cost.
Great analogy. 🤣
Nice try. What other stupid lines did you get from the Kremlin?
Not happening now. They know Putins plans. What happens next is NATO soldiers and WWIII. Biden will just buy time until after the election at which point we’ll probably full court press and wind up in 3 wars. Ukraine/Iran/Taiwan and Phillipines. The US will likely rely on Eurpean NATO to fight Russia, and the US will send most of their navy/air assets to fight China. I don’t think the US will want to fight on a 3rd front with Iran but Israel will see to it that we do.
Those wars are too big. Anyway, Russia might get angry enough to just give Iran nukes.
It’s one thing to ruin the lives of millions of Palestinians. They’re weak. No one cares. Yemen, Libya? No one cares. However, at some point the US risks retaliation. American voters will be in trouble if Russia gives Iran the right technology and ability.
Seems to me Iran does not need to be ‘given’ anything. They are perfectly able to do it themselves. As the Russians are.
The having to give stuff to allies in order for them to be able to actually do stuff is more of a Western thing. And the failure of that setup even more.
LOL, right, they needed Joe Biden to drop sanctions and for Russia and China to buy thier oil to afford the last missiles they feabiliy launched at Israel. Joe told them, just wait until after November, and let hell rain down on their nuclear program and every missile silo they own.
The US was the last standing economy, post-WWII. It’s not a “western” thing; it’s a “there was nothing else” thing.
Iran could use some help regardless of where it’s located on the map.
And where do you live? America?
There is some insight into what you say:The US empire tries to keep everyone weak and itself the centre of indispensable global power.
Yeah, russia is not the only one that can hand out nukes.
Russia gives nukes to iran and US gives nukes to Ukraine.
Now, continue your stupid statement.
Ukraine had nukes from the Soviet Union, which it couldn’t immediately use. The US took them away.
You’ll be the loser for siding with Putin
I guess Putin did miscalculate on Germany’s reliance on Russian natural gas…
“You expect us to act rationally; so, we’ve got you! You never expected us to blow up our own economy!”
Yes, that was one of his mistakes.
Can someone explain what the services are that they will lose?
Passport renewal I guess. Flagging a vessel as Ukrainian. Legal issues.
I sort of think these are all outdated. We don’t need embassies, foreign services, etc. Just send a text message.
Yeah, join the racist bullshitters in the blog.
Services U pay for!!
I lived nine years abroad as a kid growing up. I don’t recall my parents ever needing the embassy. But people will need to renew their passport which would have been an issue for them before this new policy but Ukraine allows for them to be done on a smartphone now. They are also good for 10 years as is the national ID card which they would need if they ever stepped foot back in Ukraine. One that expired during the war would not look good for them in the future.
Thank you.
Dude, that is a fcking lie and you know that.
Applying online is one thing, getting the physical documents is something else.
You are a liar.
You guys are sick beyond comprehension.
The funny side of the story is that for the sheeple who supported the coup 2014 the main motivation was the promised no-visa regime to EU. Now they pay up to $20K to get out from their shithole, and even then they are not safe.
Some Ukrainians dont want to fight just like the millions of Russians that don’t want to fight.
Ukraine a shithole? You have definitely never been in Ukraine and are just here showing your true colors.
Pretender coming here spewing your Russian propaganda
We know you are just a nazi racist calling others nazis. You cant help it.
It’s the reason why i have zero respect for you sick people here.
I think Germany updated their Citizenship laws to grant citizenship after 3 years of residency. 2022 to 2025 = 3 years. Guess we’ll be seeing a flood of Ukrainian men getting German citizenship.
One phone call from Washington would be enough to exclude all Ukrainians from this new law.
Maybe from your nazi wanna be Marjorie traitor Green but she has no outreach on that department so keep on dreaming you nazi POS.
I would trade 11 million Ukraianians for 11 million……..U know who. 🙂
Russian penises.
Yeah, a nazi racist being honest.
Yeah, it’s a great fcking country. Have you been there here.
They need hard working immigrants to continue to grow the economy.
Ukrainians are smart, good looking, humble, and hard working.
They are already contributing to economic growth in Poland, Germany and other EU countries.
You could get a job here to if you stop being a fake peace activist, hater and a hypocrite.
To Ukraine I say,,F-U! AMF. 🙂
To you, i say, FU, AMF.
You POS hater.
Hope your nazi midget dies soon.
Now they’ll have to seek refuge status in the countries they’re in.
The bottom line is this: the Ukraine is going down, whether they get $61 billion dollars’ worth of assistance or not. Personally, I expect every bit of material promised to the Ukraine to be slow-rolled (just like the ‘game-changing’ F-16’s that are still apparently being taped and riveted together so they’ll fly one last mission, or the M-1 Abrams wonder-weapons that to date have not accomplished anything of consequence except get one of them getting one-shotted by an old T-72) and whatever does get in theater will have to be under lock and key to ensure it doesn’t get sold off to god knows who before it can be issued to the few Ukrainian troops who are left.
But the real issue is not how much and when- the real issue is that the entire point of the new aid package is to act as a $61 billion dollar taxpayer donation to Biden’s election campaign. As long as he’s seen as ‘protecting Europe from that barbarian horde of
commiesRussians he can and will use it in his campaign. Politically, Biden can’t afford to abandon the Ukraine- but by any reasonable standard, that’s exactly what he should do. It’s embarrassing enough for the Ukrainian people to have their government drink the US Koolaid, but to be used as flesh-and-blood pawns for a foreign election is simply insulting.On the other hand, perhaps Zelensky should open a few books or some YouTube videos and brush up on what happens to US ‘allies’ when they’re no longer useful or too much trouble to maintain. He might want to pay particular attention to South Vietnam’s President Ngo Dinh Diem (assassinated 1963), and Iraq’s own Dear Leader Saddam Hussein, (executed 2006). In any case, Zelensky knows too much about Biden and Co. and their dealings in the Ukraine, so it’s unlikely he will be allowed to live much longer regardless.
The real bottom line is this: the Russia is going down. And it will go down.
Start looking for a better job.
Dave, it’s time to talk about the Russian mobilization practices. You know, for balance.
Never mind. i said balance. That word has no meaning here.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-draft-dodging-ukraine-war-1893626
That news would never make it here which is crazy because that would be a very antiwar article.
The Nazi Ukrainians haters are finally coming out of the closet.
Man are they mad after that Ukraine assistance package passed.
Hahaha
Suck on that self licking ice cream of yours. Keep on hating