US Planning ‘Larger Than Normal’ Weapons Package for Ukraine That Will Include Armored Vehicles

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1. “Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Humvees, M113 armored personnel carriers, and missiles.”

   Garbage. Useless. Notice: no Abrams tanks. ATACMS won’t help to change the situation and won’t help Ukraine’s massive problem of not enough trained men. The whole thing is a nothingburger.

   1. Yes, we have 4650 “mighty” M-1 Abrams tanks, but only sent Ukraine 31 that have hid since five were easily destroyed.

      1. How are the Russian Armata tanks doing in Ukraine?

         1. They are using up their T-72 and T-80 tanks, which Russia has in large quantities remaining from the Soviet Union era.

            1. https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-deployed-t-14-tanks-ukraine-but-then-withdrew-them-2023-7?op=1

               Yeah. OK.

            2. Yeah sure. 🤣 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/17a8f886fb016a622b578ae122a4a6fa025a8a322537153f98b0e66ed3c0249f.gif

            3. Production of gas turbine engines for the T-80 main battle tank has been resumed at the engineering plant Kaluzhsky Engine – known colloquially as Kaluga. The GTD-1250 multi-fuel gas turbine engine was confirmed to be in full scale production, with this representing the most advanced engine in the GTD-1000 family designed to power the latest T-80 variant the T-80BVM. The engine can run on diesel fuel, kerosene, gasoline, and various blends.

         2. 🤣

   2. According to some experts not associated with the MSM this war is over and Ukraine has bit the dust. It has not been a total loss for the US. Just think of all the bucks vthge defense corporations have made and stolen from where it should have gone,to the American people fighting to survive under the yoke of rapacious Capitalism that needs useless,morally wrong asnd continueous wars to feed the monster.
      +

      1. Fat cats are making good money in time of war. Nothing new about that. Yes, that is the capitalism.

         1. I here predict that the US will remain at war until the end of time which maybe sooner then we want or think. Pissing off two Billion Muslim people is not a good strategy.+

            1. And we should start annexing land like Russia.
               Perhaps you will then support the US.
               🤣 dipshit.

         2. All wars are banker’s wars.

      2. Well then, your boy Putin has nothing to worry about!

         1. Man, you’re more like Julio will each passing day.

            1. On some things, yes.

   3. An expensive “nothingburger”.

   4. I’m sure that you know that Russia has already destroyed a few of the Abrams tanks that we sent earlier.

   5. For MIC it is NOT a NOTHINGBURGER.
      This is Biden’s war against Russia, the Ukrainians are the cannonfodder and the USA/NATO member tax payers fund the slaughter and election of two deranged old men.
      Decent people would have ended the slaughter a long time ago, the war would not have happened in the first place.
      We are being governed by narcissistic criminal idiots. That is true for the NATO member states too. No decency, no common sense.

2. Oh Yes, Armored vehicles…???????? But wasn’t Russia able to destroy all of them previously given to Ukraine including the Abrahams which is probably the best armored vehicle America has to send???????

   1. The only ones making those BS claims are of course the Kremlin and its supporters like you.
      But let’s see you are remotely correct, what an embarrassment that Russia is fighting a handful of guys without armored vehicles because you destroyed them all but cannot even take Krynky.
      Basically, stop bragging about having destroyed all of the Western issued vehicles and having killed the entire Ukrainian Army. It is far from true and It makes you look like real idiots.

   2. The tanks the Russians do not kill will struggle in the mud.

      1. M-1 are very good in mud. They were designed for the European battle space and their 1500 HP engines will plow the tank ahead in the mud.

         1. Not if the tracks are shot off.

            1. Their tracks won’t be blown off. The danger is attack from above (via drones). Tanks are facing a new kind of war and no tank in the world is immune — not even the T-55s and T-62s the Russians have been forced to use.

   3. I’m sure you are correct. All of the “Abrahams” tanks have been destroyed. Too bad the Ukrainians have a bunch of Abrams tanks left.

3. Biden is like Mickey Mouse inn the sourcerous apprentice,he just can’t stop thgev flood of arms and does not want to. real people are at receiving end of these munitions

4. Together with the help from other NATO countries it should be enough for preventing the collapse of Kiev neo-Nazi regime this year. Of course much of those money will be stolen but still. The problem is that Russia is progressively increasing the pressure, so, it looks, Ukraine needs not just more of NATO weapons but also more of NATO cannon fodder.

   1. How many more Russians will Putin let die in his this war?

5. Aid. Supplemental security assistance. Attack’ems?! We just stride the planet gifting help to our friendly allies and sending ‘messages’ to our present and soon to be created enemies. It’s the fancy bows and lovely wrapping paper over that cake of dog poo and knives that makes our deep investment in blood, destruction and mass murder seem like rendering assistance to those who mysteriously get picked on for no reason whatsoever. Certainly these things are necessary distractions from actually helping people and building something good.

   1. Welfare for the rich.Homeless and poverty for the rest is the order of the day.

6. Zelensky’s lack of concern for Ukraine and Ukrainians is astounding! Ukrainian lack of concern over Ukrainians is remarkable. How “cannon fodders,” who clearly meet the definition of “cannon fodders” are not revolting against Zelensky is beyond my wildest dreams. Even the one where Zelensky is strapped to a drone seen m@sturbating over Ukrainian carnage.

   1. Putin’s lack of concern for Russia and Russians is astounding! Russian lack of concern over Russia is remarkable. How “meatwaves”, who clearly meet the definition of “meatwaves” are not revolting against Putin is beyond my wildest dreams. Even the one where Putin is strapped to a drone seen m@asturbating over Russian carnage.

      1. That would apply more if the roles were reversed and Ukraine was in control of 20% of Russian territory and if Ukraine’s infrastructure wasn’t being destroyed and their land contaminated. Not to mention the fact Ukraine was left hanging while our congress bickered over the aid package and our leaders have stated the goal of this war is to weaken Russia and avoid WW3.

         1. Why do you say that? Russian losses don’t matter because they’re happening in Ukraine? That makes no sense.

            Congress wasn’t bickering. The GOP/Putin lovers were holding up the votes.

            1. I say that because the war is taking place in Ukraine. Even if both sides have lost equal amounts of people, it is Ukraine that is being destroyed. I’d bring up the population differences again, but you can’t seem to grasp that. It’s like when the US encouraged Ukraine to do a counteroffensive with no air support. Something the US admitted they wouldn’t do one without it. But they were counting on Ukraine’s “hope and courage” to carry the day. Just like you.

               If there was no bickering the aid would have passed long ago. No matter the reason. But you couldn’t help yourself again. Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin….

            2. You fascinate me, Wars. The post I responded to referred to “cannon fodder”. That means people. Either dead PEOPLE matter or they don’t. Trying to parse it by continuing to compare the populations of both countries then makes no sense. Either you’re concerned about the deaths or you’re not. Anything else is just contemplating military decisions and strategy.

               In the past, you’ve seemed concerned about the people; now you’re implying the dead Russians don’t matter because Russia has plenty more.

            3. The post you responded to was talking about Zelensky not caring about Ukraine and Ukrainians. You countered with Putin not caring about Russia and Russians. I didn’t take that as you caring about either of the country’s deaths but more of an argument that Putin is doing it too so stop bitching about Zelensky. Which brings me to the same point I made previously. That the US, our country, is using Ukraine as fodder and not Russia. And you want that to continue. I don’t.

            4. But it’s Putin and the Russians that re foddering them. They don’t get a pass.

            5. Who gave Putin or Russia a pass? You just don’t want to face reality that they will continue “foddering” them and the $61 billion isn’t going to stop that. Nothing short of direct US/NATO involvement will and neither the US nor other NATO countries are willing to do that. I’m not on team Russia. I have no use for either country or their leaders.

            6. I know you’re not pro-Russian.

               However, I AM pro-Ukraine.

               I’d be pro-Taiwan — if the Chinese attempt to invade; pro-Iran — if the Israelis invade; and even pro-Russia — if the Ukrainians invade.

               See where I’m coming from?

            7. You have an odd way of showing you’re pro Ukraine.

   2. On May 31st Zelensky will no longer be the President, at least not constitutionally. Expect celebrations in Kyev!

7. I got your package – right here 👇🏻

   1. And such a small package, I’m sure.

      1. And you’ve experienced many deliveries I’m sure, Mr. Ratianal.

         1. Yes. Many deliveries to your mom’s house.

            1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/17a8f886fb016a622b578ae122a4a6fa025a8a322537153f98b0e66ed3c0249f.gif

8. The money will be allocated, the equipment will be slow-rolled (just like the game-changing F-16’s and M-1’s?) and when the Ukraine implodes an awful lot of gear will be sitting unattended and you can bet a good portion of it will be sold to some shady characters. It’s my guess that’s the plan and this is Biden’s way of paying off Zelensky and Co. in order to bring this to an end so he can somehow take credit for ending the war as part of his election strategy.

   1. Zelensky has his mansion in Florida to go to. As well as his little place in Italy. Where was his money parked? Somewhere in South America? He has it covered. He can take his piano with him. Or maybe we will get him a brand new Yamaha.

      1. You DO know Zalensky was a celebrity before he became pesident, right? Have you ever heard of any celebrities having property around the world? Is that odd?

      2. And where are all of filthy rich billionaire Putin and his oligarchs’ mansions and yachts?

         You fcking hypocrite.

         Glasshouse little b!tch.

         Are you ready for your massive 9 day parade in red square yet?
         Wait, will that be couple obsolete tanks and some 15 year old cadets? Lol

         You suck. Russians Go Home.

9. The provision of ATACMs will mark a significant escalation since the missiles have a longer range than anything the US has provided Ukraine up to this point.

   The ATACMs can’t change the war, so they will be used for spy chief Budanov’s political stunts. Above all they will be fired at the Crimean bridge, which the Ukies are obsessed with. “We take out the bridge, we show power! Power!” Except Russia is already well supplied and they have railroad and highway to Crimea, and they are also much better prepared with boats for supplies today.

   Biden is giving long-range missiles to terrorists. These are the people who attacked civilians in Russia as they tried to reach a nuclear storage facility to occupy it. They are the people who have fired drones and missiles at the Zhaphorizhie power plant. They have used drones – definitely directed by NATO – against Russian civilian targets. Now they get long-range missiles for these PR stunts.

   There is only one suitable court sentence for Biden after he has armed terrorists.

   1. He’s also arming terrorists in Gaza, otherwise known as the IDF.

   2. Yeah, those are the same stunts the buried the Black Sea Fleet and have kept the Russian Army busy fighting 15 dudes in Krynky.

      Fcking Budanov stunts are kicking your ass.
      Now, go to your room and reflect on the stupid sh!t you just wrote.

10. ‘Larger Than Normal’ Weapons Package for Ukraine and nothing for the border crisis, homeless Vets, middle class, infrastructure, etc.
    FJB’s entire illegitimate regime is traitorous.
    If there are any moderate Dems left, please rid the country of this infection.

    1. Oh, the Kremlin playbook lines.

       How is the situation in Russia going?
       No pensions, bad salaries, inflation, worst floods ever, criminals released back into the streets, ISIS looking to for more targets, poverty line isn’t getting better, number of Russians dying for nothing above 300K and all of your taxpayers money going to fund Putin’s personal war while Putin and his oligarchs are getting richer.

       You dumbasses deserve it.

    2. So, your a**hole friends in the GOP will vote for all of that?

       They haven’t so far! What a MAGA tool!

       (BTW, how’s the NY trial going for your failure cult leader?)

11. The provision of ATACMs will mark a significant escalation since the missiles have a longer range than anything the US has provided Ukraine up to this point.

    And what will the other side do, deescalate? The game of chicken resumes.

12. I think the US is very hypocritical, in most things.

    1. Just like you.

       And Russia, your team is not, right?

       Your hatred towards US, Israel and West has turned you into another dictator supporter here yet, where the F do you live again?

13. ATACMS which have a range of about 190 miles.

    Now Russia will move another 190 miles further into Ukraine to create a buffer zone.

    https://youtu.be/15YgdrhrCM8

    1. “buffer zone” are excellent. Israel established a “buffer zone” and then proceeded to bomb the holy sh*t out of it, thus removing said zone from the status of “buffer”

    2. If Israel uses an EMP on Iran (caused by a nuke), would that set off WWIII? Does Israel have the hydrogen bomb? Only Israel knows.

    3. The Russians haven’t been trying to move further into Ukraine? What have they been waiting for?

       1. Russia has no intention of occupying the whole of Ukraine. The invasion was a response (finally) to protect (RTP) Russian speaking Ukraine citizens from further shelling and deaths. Prior to the invasion, years before, we instigated the coup in 2014, fed Ukraine (Kiev) war materials. Mr. Trump provided Ukraine with Javelin anti-tank missiles. Prior to his gift, he withdrew the U.S. from the INF and Open Skies treaties.

          1. BULLS**T!

             Putin wants to reconstitute the Russian Empire.

             No coup in 2014. Their coward president abdicated and slithered away into Putin’s embrace.

             Rapist Trump attempted to extort Zalensky before he was forced to provide the ATMs.

             1. Putin wants to reconstitute the Russian Empire.

                BULLSHIT! You not only sound like Julio, but you also sound like Lindsey Graham.

             2. https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2022/03/01/putins-dark-designs-restore-pre-1917-russian-empire

                https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/22/putin-speech-russia-empire-threat-ukraine-moscow

                https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-plan-for-a-new-russian-empire-includes-both-ukraine-and-belarus/

                https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/25/putin-russia-ukraine-invasion-endgame-experts-00011652

             3. Seriously? Did you read any of them?

                An expert said this to one of the questions asked of him:

                Q: To what extent should this be considered a Russian initiative vs. a Putin initiative?

                A: There is a lot of discussion on this question among specialists. My view is that Putin’s perspective on Ukraine and on NATO is widely shared among Russian elites and the Russian public. However, very few would actually wage war to win back Ukraine. The war must be attributed more directly to Putin.

                His view? Sure, he’s the expert even though he first admitted that the elites and the public agree with Putin. But somehow, only Putin would do war. Sounds like a Julio answer.

                First line of the Guardian article:Vladimir Putin’s lengthy speech justifying the dismemberment of Ukraine said much about him but also contains chilling warnings for the rest of Europe. And European states must heed those warnings if they do not wish to be the next victims of the Russian president’s imperial ambition.

                Hard to go any further with that gem of an opening paragraph.

                The Atlantic headline:

                Putin’s plan for a new Russian Empire includes both Ukraine and Belarus

                Be very afraid.

                And the Political article was a joke.

             4. Don’t pull out certain sentences or paragraphs that you think support your position. It’s the macro-view of those experts:

                Putin wants te new Russian Empire.

             5. The one EXPERT says Putin’s perspective about Ukraine and NATO is shared by Russian elites and the Russian public and then says no one else would wage war so it must be on Putin. Talk about some sound logic when making a case. The guy admits Russians, elites and the public, are behind Putin. I can’t use that out of context. So yeah, I might have some credibility issues with some of those so called experts in the links you posted.

             6. From today at antiwar.com:

                The historical record shows that, in his over two decades in power, Putin has not “kept going.” When Russian forces have been deployed, they have been limited to specific objectives when they could have easily kept going, as in Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014, when military conquest could have been accomplished with ease.

                The second is that Putin has said as much. Putin is often quoted as saying that “people in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart.” The second part of his statement is quoted less often: “And those that do regret it have no brain.”

                The same selective use of quotations is applied to Putin’s comment that “we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster.” Though quoted as proof of Putin’s nostalgia for the Soviet Union and his desire to reestablish it, the strategy requires lifting the quotation from a context that makes it clear that the disaster Putin is referring to is not the absence of the Soviet Union but, primarily, the economic hardship that followed in the wake of its break up. He bemoaned that “individual savings were depreciated” and oligarchs “served exclusively their own corporate interests.” He remembered that “mass poverty began to be seen as the norm.”

                https://www.theamericanconservative.com/is-putin-bent-on-conquering-europe/

14. Poland Is Ready To Accept NATO Nukes
    https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/polish-president-says-country-is-willing-to-host-nato-nukes/
    WTF that is exactly one of the reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine.
    their very words were = “we will not accept NATO missiles in Ukraine aimed at Russia”
    so WTF NATO = provocateurs much ?
    hey any of yalls agents, figure it out because the paycheck won’t spend very far if nukes start to fly.

    1. Poland has just said it would be OK for NATO nukes to be parked in Poland.

15. To all the supporters of the Putin invasion and annexation of Ukraine here.

    Suck on that.
    Russians, go home or become fertilizer in a foreign land.

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