Updated 1:14 am EST on 4/19/24
US officials told multiple media outlets that Israel launched an attack against Iran early Friday morning.
Iran’s Mehr news agency reported explosions in the Iranian province of Isfahan. Sources told Mehr that the explosions were the result of air defenses destroying three “micro” drones. ABC News reported that missiles targeted Iran, but an Iranian official told Reuters that no missile attack was carried out.
So far, Israel has not officially taken credit, and Iran has not formally blamed Israel. Other reports say explosions have hit Syria and Iraq, with aircraft activity reported in the area.
According to CNN, the US knew Israel was planning to hit Iran with the understanding that nuclear sites wouldn’t be targeted. Iranian media is reporting that nuclear sites in Isfahan are safe.
On Thursday, Iranian officials warned that if Israel targeted nuclear sites, Iran would launch “tit-for-tat” strikes on Israeli nuclear facilities. Iran’s President Ebrahim Raisi has also warned of a major response to any type of Israeli attack.
Israel’s attack was a response to Iran launching missiles and drones at Israeli territory, which came in retaliation for Israel bombing Tehran’s consulate in Damascus. The Israeli attack on an Iranian diplomatic facility marked a huge escalation in Israel’s targeting of Iranians in Syria and killed seven members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), including a high-level Quds Force commander.
President Biden told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the US would not support an Israeli offensive attack on Iran. However, the US has said it will continue to defend Israel, signaling it will intervene if Iran responds.
We have zero information at the moment. Aljazeera has some small reports up. So far all we know is that Iran claims to have shot down “several small drones” and otherwise random reports of explosions in various places in Iran and Iraq.
Twitter has a bunch of photos up of “damage” but who knows if any of those are reliable.
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. Israel has supposedly struck back, and therefore Iran will do what it said it would do if Israel struck back: hit Israel harder than the last time.
So as I said, tit-fot-tat until someone decides to go all in.
We shall see if Iran chickens out. I don’t think they can back down. They will look weak and foolish on the world stage. They need to respond. They should respond. We shall see if they do.
Maybe it will promise a response in a few years when better prepared.
That’s what you want … that’s not what they will oblige with.
that’s what Israel certainly wants and america too. Israel should be treated like the pariah they are, boycott them any way possible and full sanctions. they are fools to risk our world for their arrogant b.s.
U.S. wants a “controlled” escalation for business. The question is whether they will get that.
The US is beset with inflation and deficits,and ca’t afford soaring oil prices and shortages.
That’s just Biden. The defense pigs couldn’t care less.
They care in that voters will eventually realise there are limits on spending. Few would support the trillions if understanding that they could be spent elsewhere, or left in private hands.
Thankfully, most voters seem to believe the economy can pump out anything.
“The US is beset with inflation and deficits,and ca’t afford soaring oil prices and shortages.”
Absolutely true. For those reasons, and a lot of other reasons, the US policy of promoting war in the Middle East, in Ukraine, and in the Far East, is damned crazy.
To the neocon/Zionists dismay, Iran continues to be the adult in the room. Putting off the real possibility of a regional, even nuclear war, is a good thing, needless to say.
Iran is just waiting to complete their nuclear arsenal.
You’ve said Iran doesn’t want to get nuked. So, when they get nukes, they will no longer have to worry about getting nuked? But they’ll use those nukes on Israel? Will they then have to worry about getting nuked?
Israel will not stop with the provocations and escalations.
They won’t back down. This war is planned by both sides. It’s all a matter of “escalation dominance” – which the Axis has.
We shall see if Israel chickens out. I don’t think they can back down. They will look weak and foolish on the world stage. They need to respond. They should respond. We shall see if they do.
Saving time in case of Iranian attack
They are barbaric, foolish, and pariahs on the world stage.
A bit bellicose for an anti-war guy, no?
There is a difference between being anti-war and being a pacifist.
Iran will mostly likely chicken out.
They already look weak and foolish in the world stage.
Iran is the adult in the room. USA and Israel need an Exorcism, truly.
Is that the same adult that supports proxies all over the region and fired over 300 ballistic missiles and drones last week?
GTFOH with that BS.
Being patient does not make one just or moral.Iran is waiting for its nukes to be ready.
So, back to Iran being patient before they commit suicide. And this after you had finally admitted that Iran doesn’t want to be nuked. I guess you couldn’t help yourself to pulling out your standard hasbara type reply.
what is this “hasbara”?-
Funniest thing I’ve heard today
If that is all to the Israeli attack Iran will not respond, they are too smart for that. A WW-3 is brewing but it will not start from this. USA and Israel have given in to evil in a big way and the fall is coming.
I guess this is the moment the war officially begins, unless Iran backs down, which it might.
Wrong. Israel strikes back but does not take credit. Iran absorbs the hit and says that nothing happened. Iran is all bluster. They sent over 300 missiles and drones to Israel and accomplished nothing but prove how technologically inept they are. Yet they claimed that they were “more successful than they expected”. The situation of mutual deterrence has returned just as it was before the Iranian attack. Neither side wants an all out war
Funniest thing I’ve read all day …
They sent over 300 drones and missile with a warning that they were on their way. They also gave a 3 day warning to countries in the region which coincidentally led the US to say an attack was imminent 3 days before it happened. But you’re like those who talk about the Iranian attack as something that wasn’t a counter attack to the Israeli attack on Iran’s diplomatic facility in Syria. Never mind those inconvenient truths.
Umm…. Iran says they will not respond. Smart move. Escalation only makes a bad situation worse. The Palestinians lost a lot of political momentum from Iran’s attack on Israel. Good for the Palestinians that the Iranians learn from their mistakes. War is not a good solution to most problems. But weren’t you the guy who predicted the Russians would take Kiev in a week and be in Odessa and Moldova a month later? That didn’t work out so well, did it?
Looks pretty underwhelming so far … laughable in fact.
Israel are such aholes. They aren’t satisfied with a free pass on killing everyone in gaza or bombing with impunity in at least 3 foreign countries, but now they want the whole world to kill each other…..just because they think they’re god’s chosen ones. I used to think Israel deserved a piece of palestine, but they’ve proven that they don’t deserve anything, F them and their bloodthirsty zionist murders. They’ve taught me to despise them. I hope the world wakes up and sees them for the threat to world security that they are!
The good old days when the pogrom went unanswered are over.
If you decide to move to another country you better decide to melt into that country’s culture completely, or expect trouble. Tribalism is a real thing, you cannot escape it.
That doesn’t seem to apply to the Hamas supporters both native born and foreign who are getting a free pass despite their vile, intimidating, hateful anti-American demonstrations
You are a very vile, dishonest piece of shit Zionist.
You and yours think Israel should get a free pass for its genocidal campaign in Gaza.
Anti-Israel is not necessarily anti-American.
The Zionists are the invaders of Palestine.
Zionism is based on lies, land theft and ethnic cleansing.
Zionism is evil settler colonialism.
Supporting Israel = supporting genocide and terrorism.
Death to Zionism!
You are quite an idiot. Jews are neither settler nor colonialists. They are indigenous to this land…unlike you in America. Go back to TikTok for your next history lesson
If you are Ashkenazi, I suggest a gene test … may find interesting things about your actual ancestry …
Odele needs to hit the books. Learn before screaming to the winds.
Yes, if you are Ashkenazi, your genetics will likely include significant amounts of DNA related to European ancestry, along with the DNA that relates to Middle Eastern ancestry.
And that works in both directions. The vast bulk of my DNA indicates ancestry in the British Isles, Spain, and Russia, but with a 1-2% Ashkenazi fragment (but not, as per family legend, any Native American — my STEP-great-grandmother was Blackfoot, but an earlier supposed Cherokee ancestor either didn’t exist or left no trace).
For more facts, look my Michael-Hudson.com. Look up the article on Gaza.
They were disproportionately answered every fucking time. God damn you are a sickening little piece of (Pig) shit.
HA
Dang it Russ, how do you manage to always be either right, or extremely accurate ?
It’s hard to be wrong about that asshole.
I hope personal circumstances have improved for you, wars.
Thank you. It’s ongoing but such is life.
I hope it settles or becomes more tolerable, if that is possible, my friend.
Beware people recording you. It’s the thing now. It’s often legal or quasi-legal.
What do you mean that pogroms were disproportionately answered every time? Unanswered pogroms against members of the first Abrahamic faith went on for centuries in Europe and were revived by the Nazis in the lead up to the Nazi Holocaust. Just because Zionism is an evil form of settler colonialism doesn’t mean that the centuries of anti-Semitism did not happen. Please explain your comment above. Am I misunderstanding you?
And the days when Israel and the rest of the West could mow down natives at will has also ended.
Jake, the pogroms were answered, all right. They were the basis of dragging Great Britain and then the United States into World War I. They were part of the pretext in turning the foreign policy establishment and public opinion in the West against Russia
Not true The US and UK entered WWI for geopolitical reasons and not to help the victims of European pogroms. The worst pogroms in Europe were conducted in the Russian empire instigated by the Czars and their Cossack lackeys.
I misunderstood your original post to refer to WWII (my bad). But in both wars the US and UK entered as old guard imperial powers against upstart wannabe imperial powers.
MCK did not refer to genocide or WW2.
You are right. I corrected my original reply to MCK. US and UK entered WWI for geopolitical reasons, not to help victims of pogroms. In fact the worst pogroms of the 19th and 20th centuries were conducted at the instigation of the Czarist regime that was allied with the US and UK in WWI.
A major reason the US entered WW1 because the Allies were heavily indebted to American banks. If they lost, the banks were SOL.
Wilson, who campaigned on keeping the U.S. out of the war, did a 180. Lusitania was the trigger (it has been confirmed that it was carrying munitions). NO escort (orders from Churchill). Sent in the waters, despite the warning from Germany that any ship in those waters could be sunk. The warning was posted in several American newspapers.
In no way,shape or form did the UK and US enter WWI because of the pogroms in Russia. There was nationalism,fights over colonies,sabre rattling, multiple interlocking alliances, and killing of an Archduke. The people under the yoke of Austro-Hungarian empire wanted freedom, and the German military wanted a chance to flex their muscles and kick some butt.
The U.S. entered WWI to save the bankers financial *ss. They bet on the wrong horse. JP Morgan, specifically. Both of my grandfather’s fought in that piece of sh*t war. My wife’s grandfather as well.
All the pogroms are happening in Gaza.
Zionism is all about lies, land theft and ethnic cleansing.
End Zionism.
And oil. Israel has been referred to as being a landed carrier. Israeli Zionists want a land with no non-Jews, the U.S. wants oil. Read Michael Hudson’s article on his site, Michael-Hudson.com. Look up the article on Gaza.
Only there are millions of non Jews in Israel,living as full citizens.The Arabs evicted all their Jews.
Today the pogroms are done by Israeli Jews against everyone among them and around them. And until recently they got away with that. Now, not so much, which is why they have gone on such a rampage.
Oct 7 was apogrom.
And Oct 8th to the present is a series of pogroms that make the Oct 7th pogrom look tame in comparison. Plus, the IDF left those innocents to be martyred so the IDF could go on their rampaging genocide. Why else wouldn’t the IDF at least give an obligatory heads up to the music festival organizers of the possibility of an attack by Hamas?
Exactly. It is a first and lesser offense vs a prolonged and continuing greater offense, much greater.
“He hit me so I had to kill him and all his family and friends,” would not be an excuse to the local police, much less to world history. This is not a John Wick movie franchise, and they are not Keanu Reeves to be cheered on.
The mentalities of the Mideast do not apply to the WESt.
Your beef regarding 7.Oct is with the IDF who massacred 400+ Israelis that day in a spray and pray slaughter – Hannibal Directive my friend
Sez you!
For the Zionists, “from the river to the sea” meant there would be no non-Jews “from the river to the sea”. Period. Israel is our landed carrier………with nukes.
For theArabs,from the river to the sea says-all Jews out. Happy now?
It looks like Israel’s attack on Iran caused about as much damage as Iran’s attack on Israel. We should all count ourselves lucky; it looks like we have avoided disaster level escalation. . .for now.
Except that Israel used about 0.1% of the firepower that Iran did.
Irrelevant.
Except Israel was trying to kill people while Iran was trying to avoid killing people.
Unless the 300 + weapons fired by Iran were aimed at dirt, Iran had no intentions to avoid killing people.
Too fucking stupid to understand the warnings to Israel and the 3-day warning to surrounding countries.
Just a temporary pause. The war gods are waiting with baited breath.
How do you really feel?
Please explain the difference between the concepts of the “chosen people” and the “master race?”
What ethnic group does not feel itself superior? As far as chosen-most Jews do not follow biblical Judaism. Supposedly,a borther is supposed to inseminate his brothers’ widow if his brother has not produced children-no one does this. Live in the present.
Ethnic groups don’t have feelings. Individual people have feelings. And feeling that one is special and superior just because one happens to have been born into a particular ethnic group is irrational and leads to evil outcomes.
Ethnic groups can be poisoned-what percentage of German Christians hated Jews in 1939?
One can only hope.
go live inGaza,
Go join the idf you moron. Then you can simply join the genocide instead of just weakly defending and promoting one.
Go join Hamas.
There are lots of back channel calls the public aren’t aware of. The amount of stress US/UK are under must be brutal. We will find out soon enough.
US and UK,,hopeless and corrupt cowards, the cause of most problems in the world, no tears for them.
I understand that it is vital to the UK to keep the Suez Canal open. I also understand that the US economy is tied to the price and availability of oil. For these reasons, they probably see Israel as a hedge against threats to vital interests.
Hopefully global warming will change everything. The Siberian shipping route is becoming available, and it is cheaper to use than the Suez Canal for eastern countries. Moreover, if the world can wean itself off oil, which I believe we can if we act soon enough, oil will become far less important.
well said
Oil is the life blood of the world. The world cannot survive without oil anymore than your body can survive without blood.
The US has plenty of oil in Canada and Venezuela. It’s heavy oil, but the US produces light. It will run out, but fracking probably works elsewhere. Many decades remaining! And coal can be transformed.
true. But the price of oil is determined at a global level. The invisible hand invariably works to sell to the buyer who will pay the highest price.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Prices-Surge-as-Israel-Carries-Out-Airstrikes-on-Iran.html
What I mean to say is: Oil is higher than I believe it could be. Venezuela is right there. Canada had pipes, likely still does, leading to the US, as opposed to the sea.
Lol
Repeating shit said here before.
Meanwhile, calls for sanctioning Israel for ignoring UNSC resolution at the UN.
No. Hamas can release all its hostages stat,and deescalate this mess,or the just Gaza war will continue. If any person on this site had spend six months as a hostage,they would want military forces to come release them.
Any USA citizen in Israel that was taken hostage by Hamas should be given no special attention by the USA. No one forced them to go there, so deal with it. Same as if you take your AZZ and go cavorting all over Mexico,,whatever happens is on you, deal with it. I would not put any others lives in danger to rescue you, no way.
It is the right and obligation of Israel to rescue its hostages and anyone who was kidnapped as a guest while in Israel.
Unless, of course, they are Palestinian.
Its the Palestinians doing the kidnapping.
That’s a matter of semantics
I would like to see Congress prohibit dual citizenship. As long as there are nation states, people ought to be loyal to the one where they live.
I would also like to see the people of the United States pass an amendment to the Constitution that prohibits non-persons such as corporations, PACs, labor unions, and foundations from contributing money to political candidates.
Money is not free speech, and the Supreme Court should not be allowed to say that it is. Democracy should not be for sale. As long as it is, we don’t really have the Democracy that we all pretend to celebrate.
I agree with you, but I believe it’s too difficult to remove money from everything. It appears that US intelligence agencies are involved. At some point, they might just kill or frame those who get in the way. They don’t seem to do that in the US, currently. However, imagine what might happen to an anti war voice that threatened someone’s livelihood or riches? What would you do for a few million$?
Congress can’t block dual citizenship. This was declared unconstitutional in 1967 in
Afroyim v Rusk. That was clarified some a few years later in Rogers v Bellei in 1971, restricting the ability of the USG to take away American citizenship of anyone born in the US, although presumably Congress could move to remove citizenship from people who naturalize and subsequently receive an additional citizenship on top of those they already have. That must be rare.
Your idea I think is a bad one and severely impinges on the rights of a great many people. To be completely open, I received my Italian citizenship by descent and my wife and I are relocating; my USA sponge after 50+ years is more than full. I would still like access to if nothing else (and it looks like nothing else) my Social Security I’ve paid into since I was 14. Being an American has been enough of a raw deal as it is.
I’m sure you’ll find the vast majority of dual citizens to be connected places like Ireland, Italy, Poland and so forth and no one much notices because we’re not constantly dragging the set of all other Americans into wars. By my estimation at least 100,000,000 and possibly many more Americans qualify for dual citizenships based in ancestry alone.
Thanks for the case references.
I nonetheless assert that dual citizenship, by definition, implies a conflict of loyalties.
I would not renounce your right to collect benefits accrued as a US citizen simply because you moved to Italy. Technicalities like this can be worked out. But I expect citizens of the US to 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐭 to putting the interests of the US above those of other countries, especially when the interests of the other country harm the interests of this country.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
So you are implying that certain dual citizens can be loyal to the US and others traitors-so-tell us who you think are traitors-let us hear it.
No. But I might make an exception in your case.
Another dictator lover.
So when Russians move abroad and complain because they are not treated like Russian citizens, it’s ok for Putin to invade and annex to save them?
Hypocrite.
And any person this site that survived 6 months of a genocidal attack by Israel would want the military, any military, to nuke their asses into oblivion.
But we’re not supposed to see things from their side. Israel is going to turn hem all into cripples, broken people, undeveloped children. 100K dead and 2 million injured.
Just exchange for a Palestinian. Israel takes hostages all the time.
All hostages who do not have blood on their hands should be release-happy now?
Entire population of Israel carry the blood of Palestininan Syrian Lebanese on their hands. Sometimes carry Americans also.
So does every Russian and every Ukrainian carry the blood of those murdered in pogroms, of Babi Yar,of German women raped by Russian troops, of little Jewish boys kidnapped and taken to serve the Czar for 30 years,for the current Ukraine war?
Who is to be the judge of who has blood? I don’t believe Israel, or Hamas, is honest.
All I want is the US out. I don’t want to see another disaster where the US naively “helps” via some ridiculous solution only to see Israel destroyed. It’s your state. I just want the US out.
But I don’t understand why Israel had to go in. Where will Gazans live, now? It’s a bad idea for me to be involved. The US should be out.
Failure to respond to the murder of 1200 citizens would only invite more racist attacks.
The response is so bad for Israel’s reputation. No one’s ever seen anything like it.
No one seemed to care when Israel just slowly squeezed out Palestinians, but this response has made many take notice and object.
Israel just assumed no one cared how cruel it acted, but the truth is no one had noticed.
What’s the end game?
But they won’t be released. Listen to Ben Gvir, he’s typical of today’s Israeli government. He wants to execute them to make more room for more Palestinian prisoners. But to him, and you, they’re ALL terrorists with blood on their hands.
The IDF seems to be focused on killing all those POWs. So far the IDF has killed at least 70.
Some believe the Likud doesn’t want the POWs to live. It’s believed the remaining POWs are from the Intelligence HQ that was caputured on 7.Oct. For some reason the Likud doesn’t want these Intell Officers to talk.
how do you know that the IDF has killed so many Israelis?
Israeli media has interviewed dozens of civilian witnesses plus IDF helicopter pilots and tankers described spray and pray wild shooting . Finally the photos of the damage down is consistent with gunship and tank fire not AK-47s.
The coward Zionist spies made the micro drones within Iran…!
I am thinking the same thing. I heard that Israel said warplanes with air to surface missiles were launched. But the objective may have been to neutralize air defense systems in Iraq and Syria. If that’s what they did, this may have been a preparatory strike rather than the real thing.
“Iranian media reports three drones were downed in Isfahan”
drones were down, my ass.
Luckily at this stage both sides are too chicken to respond. It was Netanyahu himself who wanted cautious approach after Iran’s attack last Saturday against a more hawkish response wanted by Gantz.
It appears it’s just tit for tat with minimal damage. Iran knows full well if it throws the kitchen sink at Israel. It’ll destroy Israel but it’ll also destroy itself from Israel using tactical nuclear weapons in response.
They know this. If they want it, they’ll get it.
Problem is this drag in other countries.
Then it will turn into a full scale global thermonuclear war.
Keep dreaming…!
A strange,sad,and dangerous game of chicken. We aren’t talking tactical nukes here,we are talking 150 kilotons on up.
“chicken”,,can’t you find a better term, makes you sound like an elementary school student…:)
DJ:
Can you open your eyes a bit wider and see through the ignorance you perpetrate here? Seriously! This is about the future of humanity and life on earth. There is no joke in any of this. Open your eyes much wider and SEE!
He’s just spewing his propaganda. He has no interest in “opening his eyes” to anything.
If you want to open YOUR eyes-read the wiki article on the history of the Jews in Iran to know what is really going on.
Oh shut up, you phony.
When you stop supporting dictators and call out ALL fcking belligerents like a true peace activist, then i would consider taking YOU seriously.
Oh, i’ve seen your comments here and few lately.
Dont come out now pretending. Im the last person to play your stupid games with.
I know you are a Phony.
When are you going to call out Israel, you vile bullshitter.
I have, you dipshit
Really? That’s odd, considering your strident defense of US imperialism.
I smell something funny here…. Hmmm. Ah. I know what it is! BULLSH-T!
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Iranians began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Iranian began to hate.
(Rudyard Kipling, with a slight change.)
“Began to hate”-even a cursory glance at the wiki article on Jews of Iran/Jewish history in Iran shows that this hatred has gone on for 800 years.
Always claiming to be the victim. Never acknowledging that they are oppressors and victimizers.
That’s Zionists in a nutshell.
Zionism Good.Read the article and learn-what are you afraid of?
Zionism is a violent,racist, settler colonialist movement based on lies, land theft and ethnic cleansing.
There’s nothing good about that.
The end is near for Israel.
zionism is the antibiotic for the disease of Christian and Islamic “love”
Babble some more Jake. Show us all that you’re a demented bigot.
Death to Zionism!
Israel leadership traces its origins to terrorism. Shamir was a Stern Gang terrorist. Bibi’s father was secretary to the racist terrorist Jabotinsky.
I laugh whenever a Zionist denounces “terrorism.” Oh the irony!
Israel is using famine as a weapon in Gaza. That’s a war crime.
Stop the war crimes!
End US aid to Israel now!
release the hostages!!!!
The holding of about 100 hostages is trivial in comparison to the killing of 35,000 people, but clearly, you’re a racist place more value on some lives than others.
800 years? Why if I name something Jews did to another it’s “antisemitic,” but you accuse others of the same?
I did not use the word “antisemitic”-YOU Did.Just read and educate yourself.
From the river to the sea, Jews and Arabs equal and free.
Love it … but I know 400 Congressmen who will call it antisemitic …
If people start using it, the Palestinians will win. But I just want the US out. I don’t even know what I want. I do want Palestinians treated like humans.
Sweet sentiment, Luchopan. But realistically, should criminals who commit genocide be “equal and free?” Or should they be punished and have to do reparations? In one way Palestine is the worst genocide in history because Israel is a democracy for one religious group who have repeatedly voted for genocide. I want Palestinians to be free and their persecutors to be imprisoned, exiled or disenfranchised. Anyone who served in the IDF or was a member of a Zionist political party should be disenfranchised in a liberated Palestine and have to stand trial for complicity, conspiracy or participation in genocide. Only the very few Israelis who opposed the genocide should be permitted to vote in liberated Palestine.
Haha, that’s a problem then. Regardless, it’s not my fight. I want the US out.
I do feel that reparations to Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, etc make sense. The problem there is how many victims would accumulate. The US keeps destroying lives.
However, Israel is complicated. It took homes. That’s not a mess I want involvement in.
UBI is the best form of reparations. If you succeed in getting it, try to get whatever the Germans were made to pay.
All the aformentioned Arab countries owe reparations to the descendants of the Jews they evicted.
Several million in Vietnam.
Several million in the ME.
The criminalss are the Arabs who evicted their Jewish neighbors from the Arab countries.
good
Only,the Arab world is Judenrein.
Iran debunked it. Outright fabrication by Zionist media. Too bad Antiwar is aligned with western propaganda media
You don’t seem to know what you are talking about.
I guess there’s a propaganda competition with each claiming they aren’t hit. (Israel and Iran.) Each needs to look strong.
We need to see are there images of ground hits in Iran by the citizens of Iran…they cant hide this….so far zero ….for the attack on Israel surely there were footage from Israel citizens showing some of the missiles hitting the ground until the Israel govt imposed a ban on reporting
It would appear you’re mistaken, respectfully. RT is reporting on it. I’m no expert.
Antiwar is aligned with western media?
The F you talking about. Do you even read the articles here?
Go read on TASS or RT news then come back here and see who they are aligned with.
Oink some more, pig.
pigs are cool animals.
Zionists are enemies of free speech and democracy in the West.
Where is there free speech in the Islamic world-Israel has a multiparty system,where Arabs and communists can speak.
Yes, a multi-party system, where some parties are allowed and others are banned, and with a government position of Chief Censor and an official crime of “insulting a public official.”
As oppossed to a country where polital opposion can not only be banned,but cost the dissenter his life.
The Zionist campaign to staunch criticism of Israel by calling it antisemitic is a direct assault on free speech.
Zionist attacks on protests against Israel are an assault on freedom of assembly.
Zionist lobbying, espionage, blackmail and cash corrupts democracy.
Zionists are a fifth column in the West. Their primary loyalties are to a foreign power.
Americans are waking up to Zionist infiltration and control of the government, the media, the military and the banks. WE’re on to you and yours. There will be hell to pay.
Israel is also an enemy of press freedom. It’s targeted killings of journalists in Gaza is just more of Israel’s authoritarian colonialism.
Why are the lives of journalists any more or less valuable,than the lives of Israelis butchered on Oct 7.
“A child is killed every ten minutes in the besieged Gaza Strip, according to the UN Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA).”
that’s what you’re defending.
It’s not that their lives are more or less valuable.
It’s that the only plausible purpose of targeting them is to make sure the public doesn’t know what’s happening.
If you don’t want people to know what you’re doing, there’s usually a reason.
Israel is intentionally targeting journalists. What does that say about Israel?
Like a typical Zionist propagandist, you want to answer every accusation of Israeli war crimes with, “What about 10-7?” but the mass killing committed by Israel since 10-7 makes the events of that day seem quite minor by comparison.
Morally, Israel is far more monstrous than Hamas, as Israel has proven repeatedly over the past six months.
Fuck all the Zionists tyrants and their attacks on free speech in the US. Fuck all the Zionist authoritarians who advocate police violence against peaceful protests.
You are enemies of the United States
Enemies of peace
Enemies of a just world.
I envision the day when the genocidal state you support is no more and you are all howling in the wilderness.
Peace between all people in Palestine is the optimum outcome, but that can’t happen under an apartheid, Jewish supremacist Israel.
Not really: they acknowledge that several drones were shot down in the Isphahan area. There’re also worrying reports about another strike at Tabriz, the center of the Iranian nuclear program. Some sources in Iran and Syria are trying to water down the gravity of the attack but we will soon learn more and, in any case, Iran is obligued to respond to any such aggression even if weak and foiled (??).
War is hard, peace is easy,,all chill out!
No, they are **NOT** obligated to respond to an attack with another attack and in fact historically Iran has rarely responded in kind to Israeli or US provocations. In the case of Israel’s attack on their embassy it was so far out of international norms that pretty much the whole world approved of their (rather moderate) retaliation, but by holding back and showing restraint rather than acting like a toddler with a tantrum Iran will show itself to be “the adult in the room” again.
As former victim of bullying I know that the only thing bullies understand is violence. They’re obligued to respond if they want to be respected.
That’s not all they understand.
In my experience yes. Once you break their nose or whatever, they stop pestering you. Not a minute before that.
You assume bullies are all psychopaths or at best sociopaths (my understanding of the second word: a learned but not genetic problem).
However, beauty and pity can conquer strength. So, I believe you can influence them.
A problem I notice in urban environments is Social Darwinism. People tend to hate those who seem inferior, seem to have some problem. Why deal with someone unpleasant when there’s a city full of the capable to befriend? However, it’s often those with flaws who are most loyal – true friends.
Nevertheless, people hate witnessing bullying. So, they’ll step in to stop it. But they won’t befriend the flawed person who finds friends at work or church, etc.
I’m not assuming anything, although it’s possible in some cases. However in many cases they may just be “normies” following the “norm” of competitiveness and “winners and losers” ideology that pervades our societies and not just at school.
Even more “normal” are those who witness bullying and join the bully one way or another out of instictive egoism, of being in the “winning” side of things, of being part of “normal society”. I believe that’s something that Harendt meant when talking of “the banality of evil”.
In any case there are studies that show that most undiagnosed psychopaths (“machiavellan personality” or “subclinical psychopaths”) are relatively successful, dominate group-oriented organizations… but fear punishment (that’s how they go undiagnosed and often enough unpunished). I’m specifically thinking of: Laura Niemi & Liane Young, “Caring across Boundaries versus Keeping Boundaries Intact: Links between Moral Values and Interpersonal Orientations”. PLoS ONE 2013.
There was also that documentary “The Psychopath Next Door” (probably still available at the usual video platforms) which is very much in the same line.
Whether bullies are always psychopaths or not anyhow, that’s not for me to decide, I’m not an expert, what I know is that they fear retaliation, exposure and punishment. Otherwise they will keep doing their evil again and again.
The self-proclaimed “chosen people” aren’t known for respecting others, even the country which completely subsidizes their economy.
I would not mix Jews with Zionism because many Jews are anti-Zionist and outspokenly so. Zionism is also at the origin (and even today to a very large extent) an English Christian neo-crusader ideology and probably Christian Zionists are more dangerous than Jewish Zionists, the latter follow a trap doctrine of colonialism set by the former to provoke Armaggedon in their millenarist madness.
Anyway, those who need to learn a lesson are all the bullies involved: Israel is such a ridiculously tiny polity that it’d be annihilated for good as soon as the other bullies, very notably the USA, which is the chief genocider, abandon it to its own devices.
Crusaders murdered Jews enmass.
In Jerusalem AFAIK, they also murdered Muslims en mass and in other locations like Antioch even Christians as well. What do you mean by that?
The true chosen people are the leftists,who believe only they have understanding and decency.
Yes,Iran with 80 million people, is bullying Israel, with 8 million people.
Also Israel has been attacking Syria and Iran relentlessly for the last many many years. It’s not size what makes the bully (I remember being bullied even by people younger and smaller than me when I was a pushover), it’s the feeling of impunity and the intrinsic callousness/psychopathy what does. This feeling of impunity is clearly promoted by the USA and other Western protectors of the ridiculously tiny but allowed to own nuclear weapons racist genocidal colony.
Israel has 7.2 million privileged citizens (Israeli Jews, many of which surely do not live in Israel at all, especially now when lots have been flying back to Brooklyn and other real homes to avoid conscription and economic collapse) but rules over other 7.4 million Palestinians (of which 2 million have nominal but unreal “Israeli citizenship”, while the rest are dumped into bantustans). Additionally another 7 million Palestinians have the Right of Return.
Israel is the bully of Palestine. Iran may be that knight in shiny armor who saves the day… or maybe not. But whoever teaches the bully a well deserved lesson is not a bully.
Do the Egyptian ad Syrian Jews have the right of return? Hell no.
Peace on Earth and goodwill to all. NO WAR!
There were also 6 non IRG personnel killed in the Israeli attack
But you West haters said that all attacks were repelled.
Lol., you guys are so full of it.
Is there anyone in charge here? Seriously! Or is this hell and we have to ‘live’ with it till we die[live]’. i dint know but its sure one F***** place https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c73c30e45a46b6b30225bd491081aac8a692be24256c219e5773642434139dd0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/591a54221697fb479fc50ccfecacbc003ff5ad9dbd729dbe66ed5b66469df237.jpg
“On Thursday, Iranian officials warned that if Israel targeted nuclear sites, Iran would launch “tit-for-tat” strikes on Israeli nuclear facilities.”
I’d hope the IRI specifically targets sites where the ASI “hides” its nuclear weapons – get that (Totally Not A) Secret out into the sunlight once & for all.
What the fork is “ASAI”? Israeli nuke tipped missiles are dug deep into mountains,not an easy target.Then there is no doubt a plan to launch upon incoming missile alert. Is that what you really want.
If you mean Acai, I think it’s a berry.
If you mean ASI (thought for a moment I had made a typoe) it’s (still) Apartheid State of Israel. Reasonably sure I’ve made this clear before, in general and to you specifically.
Besides, even if the ASI nuclear arsenal is untouchable, the IRI targeting the sites specifically is the point – not for any success in destroying them, but to show to the world, “Ya’ar, here they be nukes !” (Bit o’ the pirate-cant on a fair wind & following seas Monday)
And so it begins
Hi Chris,
Well said! And where does it end? Hmmm.
With some country’s ass in a sling, the. Perhaps launched into hell, humorously, of course.
Yep, because dictators never start anything.
Israel’s defining moment is at hand and as I am fond of saying, you can go to hell, any way you like but you don’t have to, if you open your eyes to see, the light and even your own humanity.
May 6, 2018: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: “We are drtermined to block Iran’s aggression against us, even if this means a struggle. Better now than later.”
July 15, 2019: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: “At the moment, the only army in the world to fight Iran – this is the Israeli army.”
Let the Israeli army struggle and fight Iran “now and later”; no more USA’s wounded warriors [Iraq and Syria] for Israel.
sounds good to me
When Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. says “Don’t”, nobody listens.
I assumed he was talking specifically about previous Hamas attacks. Any Israeli deaths are considered a massacre to him.
Understood I think he was referring to the history of pogroms. But Jake can speak for himself. Zionists are like abused children who grow up to be abusers themselves.
I don’t think so. He could have shut me up long ago if he had said that was what he was talking about.
Anyone who wants to understand the Israeli-Iranian conflict has to understand the historical context. People who fled from Iran have a perspective.
Jake, I am so sorry. I was trying to help you out. The pogroms were in Europe, not Iran. Stop with the revisionist Hasbara popaganda. You have a right to be a Zionist. But at least try to make logical arguments.
See what I mean? And haven’t you been reading his comments? He’s been cheerleading the genocide from day on. Why on earth would you want to help him out?
1866-Barfoush-18 killed.1860-noses and ears cut off,1912-Ahiraz-12 killed. For Starters.Thats why i said to check the article.
What article are you referring to?
wiki+jewish history in Iran
You are right. Before the 1979 revolution there were instances of persecution of non-Muslims, including Christians and J__s in Iran. Since 1979 the regime has been anti-Zionist, but not anti-Semitic although some Iranians don’t always make the distinction. Now that I admitted I was wrong, could you explain the difference between the concept of the “chosen people” and Hitler’s idea of a “master race?”
Oct 7 was a massacre. A military strike against unit 8200 was legitimate,slaughtering unarmed villages was a massacre.
Fine. If Oct 7th was a massacre then Oct 8th through the present is what exactly?
Wanton killing of women and children.
Hamas using women and children as human shields.
The IDF was a partner in the “massacre”, killing 400 Israelis by “friendly fire” (Hannibal Directive) through the use of their tanks and Apache helicopters. Continue to kill Israelis (hostages) by bombing and by shooting hostages (waving white flags) that had escaped their captors. There may be less than 40 hostages alive. Basically, it could have been avoided had Israel just sealed the border on 8Oct. It was not to be. The breakout was the trigger to kill or remove the Palestinians. There is a history of similar actions by occupiers, colonialists.
What a bunch of disgrace. They hype the match and end it with a close up of each others fists.
Israel’s measured attack indicates the fear of Irans military might.
If I was Israel I would be scared shitless of the missiles of IRAN especially the hypersonic which can wipe out the US Navy.
Precisely why this missiles must be destroyed before they are launched.
But of course. Only Israel is allowed to defend themselves. Never mind that they defend themselves with the superpower bully standing behind them and they do it against vastly inferior foes. But anyone who can strike back must be eliminated.
If you would open your mid and read the history of the Jewish people in Iran,you would understand the attitudes that persist to this day.
And? That means they’re going to commit suicide and use those aforementioned missiles? I don’t defend Iran. You can’t get that through your head.
Hypersonic missiles are not good anti ship missiles.
“The IDF has not claimed responsibility for the bombing.” Of course not. There’s always the hope Iran will blame the US.
Is Israel trying to goad America into directly attacking Iran and forcing US owning it up? Yes.
Biden is practically involved on behalf of Israel in this war. So is UK.
But being superpower has certain benefits. Some crimes committed arent seen that way. Because they have been doing for long time. Then it is ignored and eventually even not registered as crime . But US and UK are committing crimes. Just like Hitler was doing but never seen that way in time of his supremacy . Its human nature.
But Israel is trying to leave the entire war to US and is trying to see the fight migrate from its borders and cities to US ships and bases .It wants US uses its planes navies military take over the function of IDF in Lebanon Syria and Iran.
It might sound antisemtic tomorrow . Just like reminding the world that Zionist dragged America into WW1 and2 sound anti semtic today .
300 + weapons fire at Israel, result some dirt blown up. A few weapons fired at Iran, the result a S-300 air defense battery knock out of service. Iran got the message, they have no air defense and Israel could bomb them at will. Meanwhile, Iran has limited ability to hit Israel.
Obviously, Israel has run out of weapons.
Israel would best defend itself by coming to its senses and ceasing the slaughter in Gaza and the West Bank. If Israel is REALLY worried about “terrorism”, why would it go about guaranteeing another generation or two of “terrorists” whose fathers/mothers/friends/relatives were brutally murdered by Israel! Israel is unaccountable to international law and the world at large. Anyone who thinks Iran is the problem here is either a total moron or in denial!
Are new terrorists being grown right now-unfortunately yes.After the Babylonian captivity,and after the roman captivity-no effort must be spared to rescuethemFACT.
Wow, how current your historical records ! The ROMANS, hey ? Anything to contribute after, say, the 14th century CE ? Or do you have some Sumerian cuneiform tablets on your garage workbench certain to offer up some handy insights once you get ’em translated ?
Sooner or later there is going to be a reckoning between the Irainian`s and the Zionists invader occupiers IMO the sooner the better with Russia now supplying the latest arms to Iran the Zionist and their LACKEYS will need plenty of body bags .
Only Russia’s S-300 systems are failing.
Then the ones in Iran should be fine.
Maybe the Persians can send the Russian Federation a software patch for the ‘300s, they’re a clever folk.