Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer has vowed that Israel will invade the southern Gaza city of Rafah even if it causes a rift with the US, The Times of Israel reported Thursday.
Any Israeli attack on Rafah would incur huge civilian casualties since 1.5 million Palestinians are packed into the city, which has a pre-war population of 275,000. Israeli officials claim they have a way to protect civilians, but the US has said Israel has not presented any plan.
“We’re quite confident that we can do this in a way that would be effective — not only militarily, but also on the humanitarian side. And they have less confidence that we can do it,” Dermer, an American-born former Israeli ambassador to the US, said on the podcast Call Me Back With Dan Senor.
“It will happen even if Israel is forced to fight alone. Even if the entire world turns on Israel, including the United States, we’re going to fight until the battle’s won,” Dermer added.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly vowed that he will go ahead with an invasion of the city despite concerns from President Biden, but he has agreed to send an Israeli delegation to Washington to discuss the attack. The US is expected to suggest a more limited, targeted operation against Hamas.
While the US has been expressing concerns about an attack on Rafah, it is not threatening any consequences as it continues to provide military aid and other types of support. Some reports have said the US is considering conditioning military assistance if Israel invades Rafah, but one US official said the US was actually thinking about providing more aid, not less.
A full-scale assault on Rafah would also disrupt aid shipments and tighten the starvation siege on Gaza, as the one border crossing into Egypt is in the city. The Israeli government ultimately wants Palestinians in Gaza to be expelled into Egypt, but Cairo is holding firm on its position that it won’t accept refugees, although camps are being constructed in the Sinai Desert near the border, signaling they’re preparing for the eventuality.
Satanyahu knows, American Zionists will always support him and they are controlling American financial system. Doesn’t matter who is the next president, it will remain as it is.
And you support Dictator Putin, you hypocrite.
I’m sure you even voted for him.
See, you are even.
Dictator Putin ? , you mean like Americas best DICTATOR FRIENDS in the M.E and else were around the Globe , but as the yanks say he`s a dictator but he`s our dictator .
They only say this, because they have U.S. by the balls.
How so?
America could turn off the weapons tap anytime they want. But they aren’t despite Bibi making a mockery of them.
The Zionist have been laughing at the yanks ever since they got a free pass on the war crime committed with the unprovoked attack on the USS LIBERTY some thing the people of the USA let slip by they should all hang their heads in shame .
Follow the money – that’s how.
And whose money are we talking about?
American taxpayer money given to Israel that comes back to American politicians in the form of campaign contributions.
As if you didn’t know!
His watch cannot go back that far…!
I’m very glad now.
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Awful, but accurate.
Not really. Both the cleaver and American flag are smaller than real life. Also, Netanyahu is even uglier in real life.
And bloodier.
The word “Washington” should be on the cleaver. Without Wash. and our tax monies, this couldn’t go on and on as it is and soon will become worse when the Rafah slaughter begins.
The US Flag is on the cleaver, they should have made it bigger.
Not all Americans represented by the flag are on board with the abominations coming out of the Capitol.
We need to get these dual-citizen snakes out of our government. If
Dermer wants to be an Israeli so much, he can give up his citizenship
and stay the hell over there. He doesn’t even have the time to wear an
American flag pin when he’s posing for photo-ops in his birth nation and
opts for his Star of David instead.
How? The people are helpless, Wash. does what’s good for Wash., not the ‘people’ it’s supposed to represent, unless the ‘people’ are the war industry, AIPAC and Israel.
A Star of David can also be a statement of faith. A Christian may wear a cross as a symbol of faith; and fine.why not others?
Defiance seems to be a word Israel is proficient in.
Donna, could they possibly be risking the only ally they’ve left on the planet?
Or Will Genocide Joe stick with them regardless?
Time will tell…
The time, friends, to vote third party is NOW. I’m going with Jill Stein.
You ROCk it for PEACE! RTFO!
The US is expected to suggest a more limited, targeted operation against Hamas.
And exactly how is that done in a city that had a pre slaughter population of 275,000 that has ballooned to 1.5 million? What targets won’t have a shit load of civilians nearby?
The piece you are running by Trita Parsi is an absurd apologia for Biden and a disgrace.
Last night, I had briefly gotten my hopes up that Genocide Joe had finally seen the light. Nope.
Now this. It is this defiance that I’d hoped had finally gotten Genocide Joe to realize what he was enabling: his own humiliation. Nope.
Biden dosen`t give a rats ass about the Palestinian People he is living on borrowed time but is booking his place on the mount of olives among the righteous , many criminals who have helped the Zionists are buried there.
In that case, USA should cut off all aid to Israel?
Well, even if Wash. says they shouldn’t ‘surge’ the slaughter with a few words, the bombs and munitions are still pouring in. I still can’t believe Wash., both parties, are in this massacre together.
People need to realize two things:
1) ANY discontent you hear from Washington over Netanyahu is just either 1) personal dislike for his personality, and/or 2) a CYA cover story because they know any replacement like Gantz will follow the same policies as Netanyahu.
2) This ends when Hezbollah (and probably Iran) destroys Israel – not before. And that’s coming as soon as Israel invades Lebanon.
Alastair Crooke covers this well here:
Is the US Divorcing Benjamin Netanyahu? | Syriana Analysis w/ Alastair Crooke
If that happens, Israel destroys Iran as well. Israel has nukes, and they will go full Samson on their enemies if they have to.
So Israel is the biggest threat to unleash nuclear war in the entire world, and we still support that regime?
No, your Dictator Putin is.
There is no questions about it.
He and his Kremlin officials have been making nuke threats since they started their personal war in Ukraine.
As we would if an overseas alliance overthrew Mexico’s government and installed a anti-US puppet regime that were a threat to our existence.
Idiot , the only country to use Nukes in anger is the USA and will be the first to use them again , as for the war in Ukraine who started it ? , and it wasn`t it Putin was GENOCIDE JOE AND BORIS JOHNSON .
This can only end badly for Israel and the USA. Financially, Israel is a basket case. The BRICS+ nations are organizing and that will eventually flush the petrodollar down the toilet. That will be the end of our foreign adventures. Bring the troops home now so they can put down the food riots.
But not soon enough to save the victims.
The invasion won’t result in capturing or killing all Hamas members…! The main purpose is Extermination of as many as possible and then ship out the rest via the new US-build naval port…!
It isn’t until the battle is won; it’s until they are all slaughtered in a version of the Final Solution.
Why is the world not making a loud noise demanding Hamas surrender? Their goal of overthrowing Israel by force is never going to happen. Why are the Palestinians such vicious sheep? Why does the world so hate the Jews?
“Why does the world so hate the Jews?”
What makes you think it does?
One thing it’s important to remember is that Israel neither is, nor represents, “the Jews,” any more than the Ku Klux Klan is, or represents, “the whites,” Hamas is, or represents, “the Palestinians,” etc.
MLK said that when they speak of Zionists,they mean Jews. Some hatred of Israel is barely veiled Jew hatred.
Another transparent cover for genocide.
Facts.
Delusion.
“Some hatred of Israel is barely veiled [anti-Semitism].”-Undoubtedly true. And some anti-Semites use “Zionists” to mean all members of the first Abrahamic faith. Also true.
But most hatred of Israel and Zionism is disgust with genocide. No doubt that MLK would stand with the Palestinian victims of
the Zionist colonization project if he were alive today.
Only there is no genocide and no colonization. Egypt and and the Arab world expelled their own Jewish populations, not their Zionist populations.
“I support compulsory transfer. I don’t see anything immoral in it.” Ben-Gurion
“We cannot give any compensation for Palestine, neither to the Palestinians nor to other Arabs. … All colonization, even the most restricted, must continue in defiance of the will of the native population.” – Ze’ev Jabotinsky
The Europeans didn`t want the Jews either in WW2
“Some hatred of Israel is barely veiled Jew hatred.”-Undoubtedly true. And some anti-Semites use “Zionists” to mean all Jews. Also true.
But most hatred of Israel and Zionism is disgust with genocide. No doubt that MLK would stand with the Palestinian victims of the Zionist colonization project if he were alive today.
Jake – it’s definitely something that King could have said, if he knew of Zionism before his assassination in ’68. Though the core ideology hasn’t changed over the years the outward presence of Zionism has. I was there in the 60s, a mid-teen but involved in civil rights nonetheless, and it was never mentioned as a thing nor as an antisemitic slur.
That the Jewish people fought for black rights both in this country and South Africa is indisputable, two were murdered in the South. That King was a very strong supporter of Jews and Israel is unquestionable, but that quote has no record, except fairly recently – again we’re talking >60 years ago, and then as having been overheard – nothing in his writings have been found, at least not yet. What he would think of Zionism as we know it in 2024 we can’t know, but that doesn’t stop the hijacking of his name the cherry-picking of his words construing meaning not evident by political operatives. When done by those that knew him it’s particularly shameful, I can point to instance of Andrew Young doing exactly that, insert profanity.
Relevant is what he did say in speech exactly 1 year before his assassination: “I come to this magnificent house of worship tonight because my conscience leaves me no other choice” he began. “The recent statement of your executive committee are the sentiments of my own heart and I found myself in full accord when I read its opening line: “A time comes when silence is betrayal,” and added “That time has come for us in relation to Vietnam.”
He took a lot of heat for publicly opposing the war, he was condemned by fellow rights organizations, major media, politicians, and some former allies – he knew he would and stood for Peace regardless.
Read the speech, it’s likely one of the most consequential of his life https://www.crmvet.org/info/mlk_viet.pdf
Why does the world hate the JEWS ? , the world dosne`t hate the JEWS it`s the ZIONIST they hate , it`s not Israel it`s Palestine which was invaded and occupied by the Zionist in 1947 and still is to this day , just because it say`s some thing in a book of MYTH and LEGEND dosen`t make it true .
I’m sure Hamas is planning another invasion of Israel too.
They know what they are doing. Just give them more time.
Lol
Maybe someone will write a book titled: “Netanyahu’s Willing Executioners”, like someone wrote, describing the Germans during the Third Reich.
Or, or, even better:
“Putin’s Willing Executioners”
As you as addled as Genocide Joe or just a one trick pony?
Putin hasn’t been charged with genocide and we’re funding Netanyahu’s genocidal actions.
Give it a rest for FFS .
At the end of WWII, the U.S. was firebombing Japanese cities (before the A-bomb). If the U.S. agreed to a cease fire with Japan to provide humanitarian aid, at that time, we would probably still be in a state of war with Japan. Much like we are today with North Korea. But we did not stop until Japan surrendered unconditionally. In their mind, the Israelis are facing the same situation. The U.S. was dealing with the attack on Pearl Harbor, which the Israelis consider what happened in October the same. You or I may not like what the Israelis are doing, but it is necessary to try to walk in their shoes.
The attack on pearl harbour was allowed to happen Roosevelt new of the coming attack all Japanese codes had been broken it was Roosevelts way of getting into WW2 , all the Japanese wanted was to save their emperor from facing war crimes the yanks refused dropped to HBombs murdered tens of thousands of civilians and then accepted Japans terms , as for Korea Mao Tse Tung wanted to kill 700,000 yanks but Stalin stopped him so he just settled for kicking the asses of the Yanks and they are still smarting from it to day.
If the attack on Pearl Harbor was “allowed to happen,” the outcome would have been more theatrical rather than so devastating. The Roosevelt administration did underestimate the tenacity and the balls of the Japanese. The comparison of the Korean stalemate was only about the outcome. The comparison to how the Israelis see a cease-fire was the point.
Gaza was an outdoor prison before the slaughter and already had people in the “food insecure” category with 96% of their water being contaminated. Israel controlled everything that went in or out. A genocidal attack on a largely civilian population that was already ravaged by years of Israeli brutality can’t be justified no matter how hard you try, and your analogy is a joke and quite sickening.
My analogy is how I think the Israelis look at the situation. You are obviously incapable of doing that.
Of course they look at the situation like that. As do you. But that doesn’t make the analogy any less of a joke and any less sickening.
I can tell by the words you use that you are an ideologue, unable to see the big picture. Your perspective will never help the Palestinian people. You refuse to see the enormous part that Hamas plays in the death of Palestinians. So go ahead and recite your trite slogans. Meanwhile, the dead will continue to pile up.
And you’re an idiot. I’m against apartheid and genocide. That is my entire perspective. And if you read any of my comments (my profile is open) you would know that I don’t have any use for a group that advocates Shiara Law, which Hamas does. But that’s the game plan for your type. Just label anyone who doesn’t believe in collective punishment on a massive scale as the answer to all problems, which Israel does, as an antisemite or as a Hamas supporter.
I would suggest you learn basic English, because I don’t see anyone calling you a Hamas supporter. Hamas has called for genocide themselves. I don’t think you support Hamas, you just look the other way, like the old TV character Sgt. Schultz. “I see nothing.”
You sure as fuck implied it. Hamas has nothing to do with my being against the ongoing genocide. I’m against genocide no matter who is the perpetrator. You tell me Hamas called for genocide as if that means Israel’s ongoing genocidal slaughter is somehow justified. I saw the Oct 7th attack and I saw the genocidal response. It would seem you are the one looking the other way. You even made a ridiculous analogy to prove that you’re biased as biased can be.
America is with the ZIONISTS %100 in everything they do , the EVIL EMPIRE is a fitting description of America.
,I am curious as to how the Israelis can tell the difference between Hamas and regular Palestinians or are they just using the principle “Kill them all and let God sort them out?”
Do not forget the extremist background of the Gazacaust: