The White House announced on Tuesday that the US is sending a new $300 million arms package to Ukraine that includes more cluster bombs, which are notorious for killing and maiming civilians.
The arms package is the first for Ukraine to be announced since December 27, as the Pentagon has said it’s out of money to replenish weapons that have been sent to Ukraine, and Congress hasn’t authorized more. US officials claim that the new weapons package is being paid for using savings in the US Army’s budget.
White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan announced the package and said it was “assistance that Ukraine desperately needs to hold the line against Russian attacks and to push back against the continuing Russian onslaught in the east and in the east and other parts of Ukraine.”
Sullivan also pleaded for Congress to approve the $60 billion President Biden is seeking to fuel the proxy war in Ukraine for another year. “We have said repeatedly here in the briefing room, and President Biden said it to the entire nation in the State of the Union last week, that we cannot provide ongoing assistance to Ukraine without significantly impacting our military readiness absent congressional action,” he said.
According to Task & Purpose, the package includes a cluster bomb variant of 155mm artillery shells, known as dual-purpose improved conventional munitions (DPICM). The US first began shipping DPICMs to Ukraine last year as it is running low on the standard high explosive 155mm artillery rounds, which are also included in the arms package.
POLITICO reported that the new arms package also includes a cluster bomb variant of the Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMs), known as Anti-Personnel/Anti-Materiel (APAM) missiles, which have a range of about 100 miles. The US first sent APAMs to Ukraine last year but did not initially publicly disclose the shipment.
Cluster bombs spread small submunitions, known as bomblets, over a large area. They are so hazardous to civilians because many of the submunitions do not explode on impact and can be found years or decades later, often by children, as they have in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos, where the US dropped hundreds of millions of bomblets during the Vietnam War.
Due to their indiscriminate nature, cluster bombs have been banned by over 100 countries. But the US, Ukraine, and Russia are not signatories to the treaty, known as the Convention on Cluster Munitions.
The Pentagon said the weapons package also includes Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) munitions for the HIMARS rocket systems, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 105mm artillery shells, AT4 anti-tank weapons, demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing, and spare parts.
It must be nice to desperately need money while having millions just lying around.
Money for me but not for thee.
“Army savings”, wow!
Funny that, when there are homeless vets, those left with untreated ptsd, other physical injuries and scores of charities built to meet their needs. And how about operation shoebox that sends “necessities” to active members of the military?
And yet, they have “savings”. What a giant load of horseshit.
Sorry, nothing pisses me off more than “honor the troops” while there is panhandling to supplement a government function that our fearless leaders hold most dear.
Russian militaries are much better protected against cluster munition than the civilians. That’s why Ukrainians are targeting with cluster munitions mostly the civilian targets. The sponsors of Kiev regime hoped to demoralize the enemy population. The result is counterproductive, the number of volunteers to Russian army became greater, Russian military industry works harder and Russian leadership is more determined to destroy the current Kiev regime and take large territories of former Ukrainian republic under control.
The US military,the group that never quits giving joy and prosperity to the world.
If history has taught us anything, Russians get more emboldened when their civilians take casualty.
These Russians?
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1767515065815634316?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1767515065815634316%7Ctwgr%5Ec0228373c5ae6980929697abde8f15836f723a70%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2024%2F3%2F12%2F2228930%2F-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Russian-anti-Putin-militias-launch-attacks-near-Belgorod
That’s every country in the world, genius.
But perhaps now Russia will finally take Kyiv in 3 days. 🤣
Civilian casualties by any means are an abomination but that is the face of war. Russia can leave Ukrainian territory TODAY and the civilian deaths — on both sides — would cease.
Also, seems like Russia has won the war already. Everyone can go home!
Does that include the Free Russia brigades that invaded Russian territory yesterday?
You have the balls to claim Ukraine is targeting civilians when all the evidence indicates the very opposite. Russia is the one targeting civilians.
Need i share some sources?
Yeah, i think you know the truth.
You are such a fcking liar.
Congratulations, you have the dishonest writing skill of a Russian fascist propagandist.
You are wrong. Even before Russia entered the Ukraine the Ukrainian government was targeting civilians. That’s the MAIN reason Russia attacked in the first place. Have a clue will ya? Russia did not instigate this war. The USA did, PERIOD!
You are a complete idiotic braindead piece of shit. There, now i feel better, you sorry son of a bitch.
“The White House announced on Tuesday that the US is sending a new $300 million arms package to Ukraine that includes more cluster bombs, which, when used by the Russians, are notorious for killing and maiming
civiliansUkrainian civilians.” Why the edit? Because since Russia’s goal is genocide, they actually target Ukrainian civilians with cluster bombs–and since Russia’s cluster bombs have a much higher dud rate, some of those might be stumbled upon by Ukrainian children after the war.The Ukrainian use of cluster bombs is a very good thing, however. On the battlefield, they are very efficient, not only at killing the Russian invaders, but also at detonating Russian land mines, which are a much greater post-war hazard than dud clusters–but in case Russia actually uses clusters on the battlefield, Ukrainian clusters will also detonate the duds left there.
Even though most Russian civilians probably deserve the same treatment their military gives Ukrainian civilians, the Ukrainian army targets only the Russian military.
Russians hit a high-rise building in Kryvyi Rih: there are dead and dozens injured
https://ukrainetoday.org/russians-hit-a-high-rise-building-in-kryvyi-rih-there-are-dead-and-dozens-injured-photo/
I hope this package includes long-range ATACMS suitable for destroying the Kerch bridge.
“Even though most Russian civilians probably deserve the same treatment their military gives Ukrainian civilians”
Why would that be?
Cluster bombs… So there are unexploded ordinances on land you can’t use for farming, housing, or just taking a walk unless you want to worry about getting your leg blown off or exploding into pieces.
Only us humans are so stupid and destructive.
Yep, none of that would’ve happened if dumbass Putin didn’t invade a sovereign country. 🤷🏽♂️
None of it would have happened if dumbass U.S./Nuland hadn’t violated the sovereignty of Ukraine by staging a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovich and started shelling the people in the Donbass regions.
Maybe we’re both wrong and it’s the reptilians’ fault. 🤷
Antiwar links to an article at the Libertarian Institute, and there’s no comment section there so I write here instead.
It says Ukraine “withdrew” from Avdiivka. That is a media propaganda word. Because they can never say that Russia “defeated” the Bidensky side, ever. The Ukrainians were FLEEING from Avdiivka.
-The Ukrainians started to run head over heels a day before Syrsky gave the “order” to “withdraw.” So it was just for show to hide the fact that the men were disobeying him and running.
-They were running over open fields, getting mowed down. Is that “withdrawing”?
-They left behind rooms full of boxes of ammunition. “Withdrawing”?
-Six wounded men radioed their Ukie officer and asked for help. He didn’t realize he was talking directly to the men, so he said, “leave them behind.” Withdrawing?
-If you followed the battle in Avdiivka day by day on maps provided by e.g. Military Summary or Weeb Union on YouTube, you could see how the Ukrainians were defeated piece by piece. Eventually the “citadel” to the south of Avdiivka was surrounded and defeated. The northern part of the city had been cut in half, which also cut off the supply route to the Ukies in the center. Their eastern outposts collapsed and had to run back to the center, before that collapsed as well when they were almost entirely surrounded, pounded by artillery and airstrikes, and with their supply route cut off. So they had to run over the open fields in the west. “Withdrawing”?
Kyle Anzalone and your writers, please write at least once that Russia DEFEATED the Ukrainians in at least one of the many sites where they defeated them.
This totally and graphically fits.
Also this one, by Will Porter in the same article:
“The Pentagon announced that it had run out of money for Ukraine last December”
Yes, this is the media storyline. “That’s why Ukraine is losing!” But the effect of that money shortage won’t be felt until April. Until now they have had the same support as before, and they are still being DEFEATED.
They had EVERYTHING Zalushny had demanded for their summer offensive. All the ammunition and vehicles he asked for. In fact, they got even more than that. And they were still defeated.
It didn’t “fail.” They were defeated.
Strange how no commentator ever mentions the fact that Russian officers are highly competent, while Zelensky, Zaluzhny and Syrsky have been disasters. It’s not just about ammunition and equipment. It’s about the officers and the tactics.
For example, the Russians will take a village but then withdraw if the Ukrainians concentrate on re-taking that village. Ukrainian supporters cheer and declare victory. But the already shelled-out village provides no shelter, and the Ukies are bombed to bits. Then the Russians take it again. The Russians would not stand there and defend just to get headlines like the Ukrainians do. They attack when advantageous and withdraw to better positions when advantageous, to attack again.
We have seen that over and over in Bakhmut, Robotyne, and Krynky. In Krynky the Ukrainians had no hope of advancing but kept sending soldiers across the river – half of which never made it across. The Russians were in no hurry to take Krynky. So Zelensky could get his headlines. “Look, we have a BEACH HEAD!” The Russians simply shelled the Ukies sent over, for months. Before they now finally took Krynky as it’s finally time for a vast, but slow and safe, advancement along the frontline.
The Ukrainians didn’t withdraw from Krynky. And it wasn’t all about ammunition – they had high ground on their side of the river from which they could shell the Russian side. Very benificial for Ukrainian artillery. No, it was about the Russians having superior tactics and defeating the Ukrainians.
“Russian officers are highly competent, while Zelensky, Zaluzhny and Syrsky have been disasters”
If the Russian officers are so highly competent, why did they replace multiple commanders with Dvornikov, then replace Dvornikov with Zhidko, then replace Zhidko with Surovikin, then replace Surovikin with Gerasimov?
The Russian system seems to be identifying its incompetents and removing them quickly. Is that a sign the system is failing or working?
So if Ukraine removes officers, it’s a sign of Ukrainian failure because they have incompetent officers, but if Russia removes officers, it’s a sign of Russian success because they … have incompetent officers?
Read what I wrote.
But to help your comprehension consider this: no military system is free of incompetence. If a military system can’t identify and purge its incompetent officers, especially if they occupy critical positions, is that a successful system?
Got it?
Now explain where I commented on the Ukrainian system?
The Ukrainian system is baked into the thread — you’re commenting on my reply another commenter’s claim that “Russian officers are highly competent, while Zelensky, Zaluzhny and Syrsky have been disasters.”
What now? I’m lousy at math but is anybody else here wondering how $300 million can buy all those? Cluster bombs, Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMs), Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) munitions for the HIMARS rocket systems, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 105mm artillery shells, AT4 anti-tank weapons, demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing, and spare parts? It sounds like a deal that is too good to be true! ‘If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is’
Peace Maker?… ARMS DEALER… WAR MONGER… Get your head out of your butt and bloody well make the damn Peace the world needs!
Nice tactic on getting that $60 billion up for a vote. First, they’ll piss off a goodly amount of people for sending more cluster bombs. Then they’ll pretend they have to dip into the Army savings account (what a load of sh*t) to show how desperate they are. Now, let’s vote on that aid package so we can save Ukraine by getting more Ukrainians killed and destroying more of their land.
cluster bombs have been banned by over 100 countries. But the US, Ukraine, and Russia are not signatories to the treaty
well isn’t that convenient for both uncle sam and uncle ivan.
Love Is A Battlefield
no dear, WAR is a battlefield
Love is a battlefield with cluster bombs? WOW, man. Love Hurts.
For US, the Battlefield is Love…!
Hi Dave,
do you know from which depots the US will send the cluster munitions? It is known that the US stores cluster munitions in Germany, maybe in the “Munitions Depot Europe” at Miesau near airbase Ramstein in Germany. Yet German law prohibits the transportation of cluster munitions through German territory. Will the US act unlawfully with respect to German laws?!
Germany sold its soul to US… And you’re talking about German Laws…!
1. Germany as well as USA have no souls as every state.
2. Therefore Germany couldn’t have sold its soul to US.
3. Me as a human being i have one.
4. As a citizen of Germany i have a right to know if people from US are obeying German laws if they are moving in Germany.
5. Will the cluster munitions be withdrawn from Miesau or not?
The CNN story is almost the same. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/politics/us-announces-weapons-package-ukraine/index.html
If the Pentagon can find 1/3 of a billion dollars lying around in their couch cushions, their allowance is way too big. And if Congress refuses to fund a war and they supposedly have the “power of the purse”, by what democratic authority is the war still being funded anyway?! More creative accounting. Democracy must be defended indeed. But neither zelensky nor Biden care about doing so when undermining it gets them what they actually want.
Democracy? Has Mike Johnson let the floor vote on the aid package? I’ll wait.
That’s what you consider democracy? How about the constituents of those congress people wanting the aid to end? Aren’t they REPRESENTING those people?
We live in a representative democracy. Our representatives vote for us. Johnson needs to let that vote take place. If the voters don’t like the vote, they replace their reps.
Or maybe, he votes how his constituents want him to vote. That is actually what representative democracy IS supposed to be.
Sure. It’s not political at all.
You’re the one who brought up representative democracy. If Johnson brought it to a vote and the representatives voted how their constituents wanted, the aid would get turned down. Pretty simple.
You think he’s not letting come to the floor because it will be voted DOWN!?!
“He could allow a vote on a bill that includes $60 billion in aid that the Pentagon says is needed to allow Kyiv to continue to effectively fight. It would likely pass with a comfortable bipartisan majority.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/27/politics/mike-johnson-urkaine-aid-dilemma/index.html
Of course it would pass. The other members of congress are just like Johnson, they don’t listen to their constituents either. You brought up representative democracy, but you don’t seem to know how it SHOULD work.
Are you sure the majority of constituents don’t want the aid package for Ukraine?
No, I’m not. The propaganda machine has been working overtime on the guilt trip card. So, I would imagine there are plenty of fools who think that sacrificing more Ukrainians is the right thing to do. They’re under the illusion that Ukraine is just one more aid package away from being victorious.
I know this might shock you, but there many people in this country, I would say the majority, that don’t want anymore aid for Ukraine. The simple facts are, Russia is going to win the war, and Ukraine will have to come to some kind of agreement on ending the conflict. Sending more aid will just cause many more deaths among the Ukrainian people although I’m sure much of the money will wind up in the pockets of the parasitic politicians and Offensive Military Contractors.
You THINK they don’t want the aid package but you don’t KNOW they don’t.
Russia isn’t going to “win” the war. If they get to the point where the conventional war ends, they’ll start a guerilla war.
Russia won’t “win” based on their initial objectives, but Ukraine will never be whole again. Not without direct involvement by the US/NATO. And then it would be even less whole.
Ahhh, there it is, you would rather see the war continue rather than have Russia win, and put an end to the killing. Most of us here I would hope would like to see the war end, and not rooting for one side or the other. Unfortunately, the armchair warriors in D.C. have a hard time admiting defeat although one would think they would be use to it by now. Russia will win the war, and NATO will most likely fall apart, but before all that, we have the spectre of WW3, which the U.S. keeps hoping and pushing for.
Oh, but you ansolitely do come across as routing for Russia. As I said, Russia won’t win the war (and they better worry about the Freeodm of Russia Legion, the RDK, and the Siberian Brigade fomenting a general uprising).
“The simple facts are, Russia is going to win the war, and Ukraine will have to come to some kind of agreement on ending the conflict.”
Well, which is it?
If Russia winning the war is inevitable, Russia winning the war doesn’t require Ukrainian agreement.
They don’t represent the people, they represent the donor class. Democracy is a word the politicians throw around like the Dems using the word ‘racism’ for anyone that doesn’t bow to the Gods of Equality, Inclusion and Diversity. Basically bullshit.
Hopefully he won’t.
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Putin: “I don’t trust anyone in the West.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin is interviewed by Dmitry Kiselyov.
https://www.rt.com/russia/594187-putin-full-interview-/
Yeah, just like ‘nam. Laotians are still clearing, and will be until well into the 2100s.
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A common sense update on Global-Communism versus Sovereign Nations. March 14, 2024 edition:
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https://roninhardjan.substack.com/p/americas-shadow-government-behind
These people are dirt. They are beneath contempt and Americans are diminished by their behavior. We need new leadership in the US, people of basic decency and character, people who operate out of a sense of respect for all of humankind, not to mention respect for the planet every single human calls home.