Victoria Nuland, a notorious Russia hawk most known for her role in the 2014 coup in Ukraine, will be retiring from the State Department in the coming weeks, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced on Tuesday.
Nuland has worked as the under-secretary of state for political affairs since 2021 and served as the acting deputy secretary of state for a few months until the position was filled by Kurt Campbell, a notorious China hawk.
Nuland is the wife of Robert Kagan, one of the most influential American neoconservatives, and has worked for multiple administrations. In the George W. Bush administration, she served as deputy foreign policy advisor to then-Vice President Dick Cheney from 2003-2005 and later as the US representative to NATO.
In the Obama administration, Nuland worked as a State Department spokeswoman and then as the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, from where she supported the Maidan protests in Ukraine that led to the overthrow of former President Victor Yanukovych.
A leaked phone call between Nuland and then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt that was published in February 2014, not long before Yanukovych fled Ukraine, revealed the two US officials were discussing who should be in the next Ukrainian government.
The 2014 coup sparked the civil war in the Donbas, led to Russia absorbing Crimea, and NATO providing training and other kinds of support for Ukraine. These factors and others ultimately led to the February 2022 Russian invasion.
In her current role, Nuland championed the proxy war in Ukraine and has been responsible for some of the most hawkish and reckless rhetoric coming from the Biden administration. In a recent interview with CNN, Nuland vowed the US would continue to “tighten the noose” on Russian President Vladimir Putin as part of her pitch for new Ukraine aid despite the reality that Ukraine is losing badly on the battlefield.
Nuland will be temporarily replaced by John Bass, another career US government official who currently serves as the under-secretary of state for management. Bass was previously the US ambassador to Afghanistan during the withdrawal, and according to his biography on the State Department’s website, he also worked on the staff of former Vice President Dick Cheney.
Where is she going? Evil doesn’t quit being evil.
A great point indeed!
Most likely she will have a sinecure at the Kagans’ Institute for the Promotion of War, where she will be advising the warmongers in the U.S. government.
Delicious thought: Kimberly & Victoria, the ulltimate steel cage match.
Put her in solitary. Feed her cookies and coffee.
Let’s put Putin in jail first, you hypocrite.
He is untouchable – do not hallucinate.
Let him hallucinate and entertain himself…!
He is a statesman stateman respected world over. And to our shame we have w clown show every day dosplayedvwithout a fail. We have plenty of people in this country of Putin’s caliber, but in our system only cliwns obedient to the Nameless powers can get elected.
Respected by you, maybe.
That idiot invaded a neighbor and it’s stealing its land over personal reasons.
Only his Ukraine war supporters, those calling themselves antiwar for some f up reason, respect him.
Putin Lover.
She’ll be back in Trump’s State Department. Rats are natural swimmers. They only leave a sinking ship because there’s no food. They always return in the next ship.
Neocons have been in almost every administration for decades. They haven’t lost any power precisely by being always able to avoid being blamed for anything and being unknown by most of the US electorate. You could almost call them ninjas except ninjas never had any real power in Japan.
… but, her firing signifies she’s the designated fall gal. Still I like your aphorism.
“She’ll be back in Trump’s State Department.”
Maybe. She was out during his first term and was critical of his “isolationist” policies.
I am not sure sure. She was in the Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden administrations. But she somehow missed out while Trump was in
I’m betting she didn’t leave by choice, Ukraine is a debacle, NATO and the EU both look like they’re circling the drain, I’m thinking sacrificial lamb. No one’s more associated with the Ukraine project than Nuland.
Agree. Her supremacist, obnoxious behavior is at present not needed. But she will be back in one capacity or anothet. Demons only shapeshift, but are always there.
I dont get you guys’ obsession with someone who carries zero weight at the National Security level.
No one, absolutely no one talks about her in the Beltway when discussing Ukraine.
Must be that the Kremlin Ukraine War Playbook has not been updated yet.
That’s like me blaming the Ukro – Russo war on Prigozhin.
Maybe there’s a reason it’s not done ITB, never knowing who’s listening, but it certainly is OTB.
Yeah, Maybe the aliens are to blame for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
yeah, I’ll check on that.
Not unless Zionists are aliens, you check on that.
Mere early retirement is not good enough.
She ought to be prosecuted.
Charges can include: overthrow of a democratically elected government, crimes against peace, aggressive war, support for war crimes in Donbass against the civilian population for 8 years pre-war.
Plus, as a deep neocon, and No.2 at the State Dept., she likely had an evil hand in Gaza’s disaster, and ought to be charged for that too.
“She ought to be prosecuted.”
Yeah, but that’s not going to happen. And “retirement” probably means moving over to one of the neocon think tanks she and her family are associated with, perhaps only until the next high level government gig is available.
Meanwhile, she’ll be out of the spotlight as it becomes entirely impossible not to notice that her Project Ukraine is an unmitigated disaster.
If Nuland has cancer, I will start believing in God.
God’s got to do something better than that. He does that to small children.
Not me. That should have happened long ago but the sadistic prick upstairs wanted a little more misery to be spread by that sickening bitch. Makes the reality game called life more entertaining for him/her.
Yeah, nothing about her is or has been “what ought to be.”
I’m still right about what it ought to be.
Mere early retirement is not good enough.
She ought to be prosecuted.
Charges can include: overthrow of a democratically elected government, crimes against peace, aggressive war, support for war crimes in Donbass against the civilian population for 8 years pre-war.
Plus, as a deep neocon, and No.2 at the State Dept., she likely had an evil hand in Gaza’s disaster, and ought to be charged for that too.
From Moon of Alabama: https://www.moonofalabama.org/
Honzo has an interesting take.
“a role in which she has personified President Biden’s commitment to put diplomacy back at the center of our foreign policy”
I read to Blinken saying that and couldn’t contain myself.
Cookie Monster. Perfect handle for that creep.
Out with the old trash, in with the new. It’s not as if anything will change. I do hope this repulsive old sea hag dies a horrible, painful, lingering death though. Anything else is too good for her.
Yeah, she’s on my Dick Cheney list of those who I want Karma to pay extra special attention to.
That war criminal and liar (WMD) is freely walking streets.
She will have time to roast in hell with all her friends too, that includes all the presidents she served.
Maybe some amputation without anesthetics would teach her something before she goes to hell? Just a thought.
There is nothing bad enough for these odious wastes of flesh.
February 7, 2014: USA Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland; “F… the E.U. in a private telephone call to USA Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt.
The E.U. NATO, USA, and Russia are in a F…-up situation now!
Gosh, she doesn’t seem to be a popular girl on this site..
Lots of heat on state, ah I thought, maybe a change of direction – until the last para, Cheney, god save us. Then checking his bio he’s a long time Clinton alum, likely not. DC really is a petri dish of inbreeding.
Victoria Nuland is insane and her deranged antics have lead to the murder of more people than any other witch in the history of the world.
Where is she going next? Perhaps emigrating to Israel to kill more people!
Nah, Hil’s got her beat both by dead count and witchery 🙂
That’s an argument that’s been brought up here before. I conceded to a dead heat. But I’m in your corner if a gun were held to my head.
No gun needed, though Vikki easily gets a 1/2mil for Ukraine Hil’s death count starts with Kosovo 🙂
“murder of more people than any other witch in the history of the world” Not a fan of history I see.
Name another female who has more blood on her hands.
Indira Ghandi? Golda Meir? Imelda Marcos? Eva Peron?
These women did not kill 500,000 Ukrainians and 50,000 Russians like evil witch Victoria Nuland.
Iraq too. Libya, etc etc
Imelda had more blood on her feet from fitting her toes into all those shoes.
Madeleine Albright.
Dubious achievement award goes to Madeline Albright, but Jabba the Slut AKA Victoria Nuland exceeds all former murderous women with upwards of 450,000 dead Ukrainians and 50,000 dead Russians to her credit.
Hey Dave DeCamp, she didn’t resign.
She is retiring.
Two different things that cannot be used interchangeably.
But she could be resigning to begin retirement. Quibble bits.
Or she could also be retiring to begin resigning. 🤣
She broke too much china, even for demented Biden who promoted her, she is not helping him to get reelected.
The sinister people of Washington will not tell you the truth. Retirement is mild word for firing. Her firing signify beginning of some diplomacy on Ukraine.
False, retirement is no mild word for firing especially when working for the government.
Nuland is not a gatekeeper, she doesn’t control jack in Ukraine.
You guys are obsessed with her.
Jack who?
Jack you (jack sh!t).
You have an unholy fascination with your excrement.
And you have an unholy fascination with dipsh!t Putin.
And you have an unholy fascination with installed dictator Zelensky.
If things were going well she would not retire or get fired, she would keep her job until the day she croaks. .
Sure because no one working in the USG retires at 62 or even before.
You have never worked for the USG, dont try to be an expert now.
Stick to your Russian Government BS.
Do under secretaries of state normally retire at 62 right in the middle of the administrations they work for and right in the middle of crises they’ve been deeply involved in for years, just because they’ve decided it’s time to retire? Or do they normally retire under such circumstances for other reasons — that the administration no longer has confidence them and has graciously allowed them to retire instead of being fired, perhaps, or because they disagree with the administration’s direction and have decided they won’t be involved in it anymore?
Do they retire at 62? Yes, they do. It happens all the time and it’s not even uncommon.
Does it happen when they are in the middle of something huge? Yes, it happens a lot.
Your argument is based on you defending Dave DeCamp.
1. He headlined his article with “she resigning.” Why? Do we know she resigned?
SPECULATION based.
2. He then says she is retiring. So, did she retire or did she resign? Which one?
3. I questioned Dave and you came to his defense with an analogy that; firing, resigning, and retiring is the same.
My point was that he used two terms interchangeably without any supporting data. again, SPECULATION!
4. I stated, Government employees do not need to resign if they are eligible for retirement. They just retire.
The rest of the argument is you speculating she was fired, she resigned, or X,Y,Z science in defense of Dave.
Which makes no sense, because there is nothing to defend
We don’t know know if she was fired or if she resigned, but even if, she didn’t have to resign to retire. She could have retired anytime she wanted to.
If you want to call it “she was fired,” She resigned” or anything else?
That’s just speculation on your side.
To all we know, she RETIRED and that will not change her pension.
In the end, I still don’t’ get the obsession with her when she has zero weight on US Policy towards Ukraine.
Seriously, out of SO many individuals, you are tunnel vision on Nuland (not you), That to me is risible
“Your argument is based on you defending Dave DeCamp.”
No, my argument is based on you unsuccessfully attempting to make words not mean what they mean because you consider the usage tendentious.
I happen to agree that it’s tendentious usage, but it’s just a linguistic fact that etirement is one form of resignation.
I also happen to agree that Nuland is a fairly minor figure in the scheme of things. That’s pretty much what deputy under secretaries are there for — to get the blame for policies that they have precisely zero power to set or not set.
Dave DeCamp knows Nuland didn’t resign.
Here is the first paragraph of the above article:
Notice the word retiring in the quote?
Of course, sometimes retirement is not quite voluntary. Is this the case with Nuland?
So did she resign or did she retire?
Are you two going to tell me it means the same?
It means she was fired.
Did she quit or get fired.
That was another lie from Blinken…!
“Retirement from X” (as opposed to “retirement” generally as in ceasing to work due to age) is often a way of putting lipstick on the “resignation from X” pig, which in turn is often a euphemism for “fired from X.”
She’s only 62 years old, there hasn’t been a change of administration, and the US is in the middle of a conflict that’s been her long-term personal project. Do the math.
“”Retirement from X” (as opposed to “retirement” generally…..Do the math.”
Agreed, but I think you overestimated the target audience.
😉
if you are eligible for retirement (and she was), you dont need to resign. You just apply for retirement.
According to your analogy, i can now say i retired from the military but i can also say i resigned and similarly i can say i was fired from the military.
Thanks for the lecture Thom.
All these years I didn’t know they all mean the same within the USG.
Way to spin terminology.
I am sure Thomas is right, he makes sense, you don’t.
And you can eat a d!ck you propagandist.
Other than insults you have no response. That is a win for me.
Congratulations.
You can have any fantasy wins you want.
It’s the Kremlin style.
The Russians are not my enemy, do you have an issue with that? Are they your enemy, and if so why, did you offend them?
Maybe you are paranoid, that is an unpleasant problem.
Until her death, she will look over her shoulders for meeting Russian agents.
The psychopath will be judged someday.
“Bass was previously the US ambassador to Afghanistan during the withdrawal, and according to his biography on the State Department’s website, he also worked on the staff of former Vice President Dick Cheney.”
Well, isn’t this a breath of fresh air….
Sheesh!
Nuland had nothing to do with the coup–unless you count handing out cookies–because there wasn’t any coup. There was just Volodymyr Parasyuk’s speech on the Maidan, which scared Yanukovych into packing up his loot and taking his helicopter to Moscow:
But after the Revolution, on orders from Obama, she may have played a role in keeping the Ukrainian nationalists out of power and unwittingly helped Obama roll out the red carpet for Putin to take Crimea.
Nothing to do with the “wasn’t any coup” coup except being caught on tape planning Ukraine’s next President, “Yats is the guy,” with US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt – 10 days before the Maidan turned deadly & new elections agreed.
Victoria Nuland admitted during a speech in 2014 that the US had spent $5 BILLION since the 1990s to spread “democracy” in Ukraine.
They had a democracy with a democratically elected government of all of the then-Ukraine.
“…the reality that Ukraine is losing badly on the battlefield.”
Really, Dave? Tell that to Jake Broe:
Why would Dave bother?
Jake Broe Bio: “I am a United States Air Force veteran who served as a Nuclear and Missile Operations Officer (13N).”
Credentials: #6, “Top-10 of Pro-Ukraine YouTube Warriors” Kiev Post, 2, Jan, 2023.
Proof of life? Why is Blinken announcing her retirement and not Nuland?
She couldn’t after he gave her a backhand to her face.
I doubt it. Two rancid peas in a pod.
I hope this is a sign that the U.S. government is starting to open up to negotiations to end the war.
Hope is good… But a lot more Signs needed to verify it…!
It could certainly be a sign of some kind of direction change vis a vis Ukraine. Could be her quitting because she disagrees with that change, or her getting fired because she was regarded as an impediment of some kind to that change.
Of course, it’s POSSIBLE that she just wants to cash out (62 is minimum retirement age for federal employees) and either pick up a salary at her husband’s “think tank,” or maybe just bake cookies.
What took them so long, she has a trail of blood and scorched earth and failures and demented Zionist Biden promoted her anyway. That says a lot about the clique of the Biden Zionists with Biden the Zionist in charge. All of them must go.
Maybe she was fired because she could not bring in the money she tried to get approved, all to create more jobs as she said some days ago. It is election time.
My guess is that the Gaza issue is more likely the cause than Ukraine.
Minimum retirement (non disability) age for the majority of federal employees, but not all category of federal employees. Some federal employees can retire with immediate retirement pay at age 50, and all federal employees can retire at age 55 with 30 years or age 60 with 20 years.
Are you a federal employee or did you just google that?
Suddenly, everyone here is a Federal Employee. Lol
So, based on what you just wrote, will it be unusual to assume she retired? Or did she conveniently, to you, get fired? Or just resigned?
I’m having a blast with this topic here.
May she burn in HELL.
I’m sure she is headed in that direction on the judgment day…!
She has lots of friends down there.
Isn’t “down” a relative term? Down in China for example, would be “up” here when the terms were uttered at the same time.
For so-called Christians down there means hell, it can’t go deeper than hell, I thought . But you are correct, down in China is new to me.
Glad someone finally tightened the noose on this warring ho and ditched her before we wind up dead in a nuclear holocaust.
It’s more like she got fired…!
MSM does not use the word resigned, they call it she is leaving or retire. You are right, she was fired.
One neocon gravedigger down, her legacy is nothing but destruction, scorched earth and the death of millions of people.
No, Russia Is Not Winning
https://ukrainetoday.org/no-russia-is-not-winning/
Better late than never
Nuland failed to weaken Russia… So she is being replaced…!
Did she really fail? I heard she is using her MARVEL super powers to go after her opposition on antiwar blog.
So be careful. She is really powerful.
Try to lay low for awhile.
https://www.indianpunchline.com/is-ground-beneath-bidens-russia-policy-shifting/
Is ground beneath Biden’s Russia policy shifting?
MK Bhadrakumar
“At any rate, as the November 2019 presidential election (which Biden won) was approaching, Nuland went on record that it would be necessary to resume the work on the Minsk agreements. To quote her, “I think we should start serious negotiations on the implementation of the Minsk agreements… I hope that we will be invited to become a party to this process if and when the United States returns to considering Ukraine as an important pledge for the future of democracy. I hope that this will happen after our elections in (2019) November.”
Nuland also noted that she did not know any other way to get Russia to withdraw from Ukraine other than the Minsk document, which after all, President Putin himself signed. However, as it happened, Biden’s Russia policies took an entirely different trajectory.”
So many questions, so little time.
Glad someone finally tightened the noose on this warring whore and ditched her before we wind up dead in a nuclear holocaust.
Regarding the loss of “effective weapons,” the means by which the Abrams tanks are being destroyed in Ukraine by Russian firepower, the bells and whistles the Pentagon removed from them would’ve made a marginal effective difference.
HUZZAH!
People like her don’t just go away. During the next administration they’ll bring a male version of her maybe Robert Kagan will make a cameo appearance.