Update: The Pentagon walked back Austin’s comments, claiming he was referring to total Palestinian deaths based on numbers from Gaza’s Health Ministry, not just women and children.
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said on Thursday that Israel has killed over 25,000 Palestinian women and children in Gaza since October 7.
When asked how many women and children have been killed during a House Armed Services Committee, Austin replied, “It’s over 25,000.”
The number is higher than the estimate that’s been put out by Gaza’s Health Ministry. The ministry said on Thursday that over 30,000 have been killed so far and has consistently said about 70% of the casualties are women and children, which puts the women and child death toll around 21,000.
Gaza’s Health Ministry does not account for the thousands of civilians who are missing and presumed to be dead under the rubble or for Palestinians who may have been buried instead of being sent to a hospital or morgue. The breakdown of communications in the Gaza Strip has also impeded the Health Ministry’s ability to keep a count.
In October, President Biden accused the Palestinians of lying about the death toll when confronted about civilian casualties. “I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said.
But a few weeks later, Barbara Leaf, assistant secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, acknowledged Gaza’s Health Ministry has always been reliable and said the true death toll is likely higher than what they’re reporting. Israeli media reports have also said that Israeli military officials believe the Health Ministry’s numbers are close to accurate.
Austin, a former Raytheon board member, also said the US had provided Israel with 21,000 munitions since October 7 to support the massacre, which does not include the American-provided bombs Israel was already armed with, as it receives $3.8 billion in military aid from the US each year.
Despite the massive civilian casualty rate and the International Court of Justice ruling that it’s “plausible” Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, the US continues to provide unconditional military support and political cover.
Ooops!!! Llyod went and blurted out a truth.
He must have been on drugs…!
He’ll soon fall out of a window at Bethesda Naval Hospital – just like James Forestall did
It’s quite likely that Forrestal simply committed suicide — in the context of extremely disturbing personal circumstances and in the wake of brutal psychiatric “treatments.”
Forestal was killed for the being a anti-semitism. That seems well established by now.
You should edit that post. As it is, it has no meaning in English.
It may seem to you to be “well-established” that Forrestal (at least try to spell the man’s name correctly) was killed, but it isn’t established at all. Rather, that’s a conspiracy theory that has floated around in a variety of versions, with a variety of alleged bad guys, since soon after Forrestal’s death.
Don’t believe anything until it’s been officially denied by the government 😜
If people start to think that US bombs can’t even kill defenseless civilians, Raytheon’s stock is going to tumble faster than Joe Biden’s approval rating
Not likely. They’ll be motivated to make bombs twice the size to prove their worth for another few billions in a contract.
The motherf*cker describes it as if he was describing his breakfast at a Denny’s. “We gave the Zionists mucho weapons to kill 25,000 women and children. Pass the syrup”. GFD!!!!!!!!!!!!
A sense of a pride…!
Austin is a certified tone deaf moron. When asked by a reporter, what is this Ukraine war about? His answer: “To weaken Russia.” The only outfit lookin weak is the U.S. military logistics and the feckless NATO Gnomes!!!!!! Russia is riding high and lookin down on the joke of Ukraine and it’s dancing boy Volodmir!!!
And the leftist democrats are berating MAGA republicans in Congress for blocking an additional $14 Billion foreign aid package to Israel.
The leftist democrats have mostly been beaten down for even MILD criticisms of Genocide Joe’s full support of Israeli atrocities. For that they will get very well funded primary opponents.
The democrats you are referring to are between center right and center left. It turns out that the center is divided between those that want to substantially increase defense spending to fight Russia, and those that want to substantially increase defense funding to fight China. They verbally attack each other to create the appearance of fighting for principles as they take turns getting their 10 percent cuts. Biden is not the only politician getting his 10 percent.
There is no Party in Foreign Policy, there is only the Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-MEDIA-Academia-Think-Tank Complex, and there is no Center; there is only War.
Wow. I thought I was making a bold radical statement. I am WAY out of touch.
The health of the US will be determined by how many people vote for a 3rd party candidate in 2024. If 95+ percent of the voters vote red or blue, the US is finished.
And who would you recommend? find a third party candidate that is truly independent,honorable and tuned into reality. Who ends foreign adventurism,but is not naive to the fact that we have enemies..Who cares about the human condition,respects personal freedom, and understands that the country cannot afford unnecessary wars,environmental destruction,and the welfare Vampire
That is a bit much to ask. But if Conservatives can find a decent person to run, and Liberals a decent person to run, and if the two can be respectful to each other, then maybe we can make baby steps towards a decent future.
I have voted 3rd party for the better part of thirty years. This time I will have to vote for the idiot on the right just to get rid of the idiot on the left.
The idiot on the right (IotR) isn’t likely to be much, if any, better than the IotL. No doubt you already know his long long list of idiocies, but I will mention his move of Israel’s capital to Jerusalem for his Israel Lobby donor/s and then via his Zionist son-in-law the Abraham accords. The latter brought the ME to 10/7, the US to perpetrate Genocide and us all the growing probability of a regional war.
If only virologists could GoF a viral strain that attacks political idiots 🙂
So your support is for a right wing idiot to degrade our lives instead of a center idiot. Biden is most definitely NOT on the left.
Specifically how do you envision “the US is finished” ? Clinton’s neoliberal policies got the US here and Clinton got the oval because almost 20% of America voted for Perot, for good reason, but how does a similar outcome factor into your 95%+ calculation.
Short answer: we need to start working on replacing the republican and democratic parties with parties that consider making life better for non-millionaires a good thing,
The problem with Perot was not that he changed the name of the politician that would proudly state that 500k Iraqi children killed by US sanctions was worth it, it was that the 20% for third parties did not increase in future elections.
Either we find a peaceful way to make things better, violent ways are tried, or we all live in poverty subject to heavy corporate surveillance.
If violence is tried, my hope is that right, center, and left will cooperate for maximum odds of success.
There’s no leftist DemonRats… Only centrist & rightist and more often far rightist…!
The stupidity of the now-common view that there are “leftists” in mainstream American politics is mind-boggling. In almost any other developed modern democracy US Democrats would be considered center-right.
Agreed. But that’s not funny. It’s really funny when they call Biden, Pelosi, Hitlary, or AOC with the title of “communists.”
I noticed that you’re now saying, “Demon Rats.” It looks like you changed it from “Demo Rats?” …I like it. It’s more accurate. I know many who would represent well for both. Probably and unfortunately too many. Oh, God! NO! I can still see them scrolling in my head even if I close my eyes!
Both US and Israel have designated Hamas that rules Gaza as a terrorist organization …” But both agree with Gaza’s Health Ministry death estimate…!?
Wait for a second. Anybody knows if Gaza’s Health Ministry building still exists in reality or working while on the run? It would be nice to know, don’t you think?
No matter how many bombs or ammunitions US gives Israel, they cannot slaughter All the Palestinians in Gaza…! At some point they have to stop…! Now, when they realize that it could be too late to get away with it cleanly for the next decade or two…!
Death tolls are much higher .Health ministry isnt in a position to supply the data.It has lost personnel,data , ,data processing centers and buildimgs. Hospital ER is gone .No 911 type of data .
Nothing is working at more than 10-15 % capacity .
So, the question is whether Austin meant to refer to 25K slaughtered women and kids or “only” 21K. Right. It would be way less concerning if it were only 21K.
You couldn’t make it up, and you don’t have to. 😧
Remember Aaron Bushnell. He’s not alone
The act of burning uniforms was not just a symbolic gesture but a deeply personal one, echoing Bushnell’s ultimate sacrifice.
Participants shared stories and reflections on the cost of war, highlighting 30,000 Palestinian casualties since the war’s onset.
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2055957
https://twitter.com/AlissaAzar/status/1763039441885749503?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1763039441885749503%7Ctwgr%5E9cda1a178df1953ffe080cc222e510e23a8d8c33%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fenglish.almanar.com.lb%2F2055957
A moving act of solidarity as veterans burn their uniforms at a vigil for Aaron Bushnell hosted by veterans against war. This was after some extremely moving speeches, including a Vietnam War veteran who was a part of the SDS and did a lot of anti-war organizing.
Who was the veteran that you are talking about..??? Those ou us who fought with the cops ans counter protesters want& would like toknow who is still alive and more importantly, politically active antiwar activists. Please answer here with their name if you think it is safe to do so.
https://www.veteransforpeace.org/
Sorry, it might be this one instead:
https://aboutfaceveterans.org/
Aaron wore his uniform as he took that act, that ultimate sacrifice,” Matt Howard, a Marine Corps veteran and board member with About Face, the group behind the vigil, told Military.com. “There’s obviously an intentional decision that he made, and I think similarly, folks, our members and other veterans that participated, felt really strongly that that symbolism is important.”…
About Face: Veterans Against the War, originally founded as Iraq Veterans Against War, held the vigil for Bushnell in effort to ensure the sacrifice they said he made was not in vain. “Some of us are burning our medals. The rest of us are burning the last pieces of the military we had, to tell Aaron that he’s not alone, and to show him that he’s not alone,” one of the protesters said in the video.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/veterans-burn-uniforms-solidarity-airman-230555965.html
“I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said. “The number of bombs we sent should have killed way more than what they are saying. I mean they’re civilians for God’s sake, not Russian soldiers. They can’t be that hard to wipe out!”
And… “We’re the United States of America!” Our bombs are smart!
“Then conquer we must, if our cause it is just, and this is our motto: “In God is our Trust.” (2nd verse, The Star-Spangled Banner, which helps understand why it was not made the national a anthem un til the 1930’s
“”Israel Has Killed Over 25,000 Women and Children in Gaza””
that kind of speaks for itself, doesn’t it ?
Never really thought I’d see this country sink this low. It makes what we did in Vietnam and Afghanistan look like a walk in the park.
We are “governed” by people with no moral or ethical center, people for whom winning is everything, no matter how many lives they destroy.
We always have been, but I’m like you. I was in denial. Justin Raimondo demolished that house of cards in the nineties and I learn more every day about the brainwashing I received since I was born. Now, I quickly detect when someone is $hitting moral superiority on my face or blowing smoke up my a$$.
It’s just another example of how many of our political leaders have been co-opted (purchased) by our little Welfare Queen & their troop of Supremeacist Zionists who believe they have a writ from G-d to kill all those who inhabit the land they covet.
“people for whom winning is everything, no matter how many lives they destroy.” Not quite- “people who would sell their own brothers into slavery for a buck” is more like it.
Never really thought I’d see this country sink this low. It makes what we did in Vietnam and Afghanistan look like a walk in the park.
We are “governed” by people with no moral or ethical center, people for whom winning is everything, no matter how many lives they destroy.
“ “I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said.”
“These “Ayrabs “ always lie unlike us the ever truthful.”, Biden
Biden is engaged in neurotic projection and shows deep seated racism and hatred towards the Palestinian people.
The same had been used during the wars on Iraq.
Sadam lies we don’t ?
“I have no notion…” Works for everything the man says.
If he had said the number of deaths was less than it is, his masters would not have corrrctrd it
I hope you do a story on the NYT using its new batch of Judith Millers or Jayson Blairs outright lying about what happened on Oct 7th. They hired atrocity porn writers to dehumanize Palestinians and they deserve a storm of scorn for, once again, playing their role in justifying war.
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/
https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/1745696908675260572?s=46&t=aXm3wqTaWnffzNipP5hu2w
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/
https://www.oct7factcheck.com/research-hamas-weaponized-sexual-violence-oct-7-nytimes
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/12/zaka-is-not-a-trustworthy-source-for-allegations-of-sexual-violence-on-october-7/
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/watch-ny-times-investigation-mass-rape-hamas-falls-apart
Just think; along with the latest atrocity where Israel shot up some 100 people standing in line at the “food bait” truck, Satanyahoo along with his sidekick Genocide Joe are quickly replacing Hitler in the role of “most evil being.”
They already passed Hitler. Who would have thought it could get worse.
Let this sink in
“ WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden announced new U.S. sanctions Friday on “some of Iran’s most egregious human rights abusers” as he marked the anniversary of the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini, who died while being held by the country’s morality police.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/biden-announces-more-iran-sanctions-on-the-anniversary-of-mahsa-aminis-death
But killing 25 thousands children and women?
“ Another day, another outrage.
That is the inevitable lot of Palestinians in the grim, dystopian wasteland that is Gaza
It is inevitable because it does not matter the scale, nature or manner of the outrages, Palestinians have been, and always will be, considered disposable human fodder by Israel’s army of unrepentant enablers and apologists.
They are, of course, hard at work trying, as they are conditioned to do, to find an explanation, an excuse, a rationale to absolve Israel of responsibility for the crimes against humanity that it has committed with impunity in Gaza and beyond.
In their myopic calculus, Israel is never to blame, never responsible, never the perpetrator, never guilty. To admit that Israel is to blame, responsible, the perpetrator or guilty, would mean, in effect, admitting their guilt too.
The usual pallet of lies, distortions, and obfuscations is being deployed, on cue, by the usual suspects in the usual capitals and newsrooms to deny or obscure the obvious.
Blindness is a necessary extension of their complicity. They refuse to see what the rest of us can see. Their evangelical allegiance to Israel trumps the truth and decency. It always has. It always will.“
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/29/israels-killing-rage
The USA controls pretty much all international institutions including the UN, they will not be held responsible, they must be sure.
Better to chain your biting dog up before someone shoots it or you