Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday that Ukrainian military leadership proposed mobilizing 450,000-500,000 new conscripts to fight Russia as Kyiv is dealing with a manpower shortage.
The Ukrainian leader said he needed to hear more about the plan before ordering the mobilization. “This is a serious number. I said I need more arguments to support this direction,” he said, according to The Kyiv Independent. “I need concrete information on what will (then) happen with the 1-million military of Ukraine.”
Zelensky’s government has already been taking desperate measures and abusing its power under martial law to fill its ranks. The New York Times reported on December 15 that Ukrainian army recruiters have become “increasingly aggressive in their efforts to replenish the ranks, in some cases pulling men off the streets and whisking them to recruiting centers using intimidation and even physical force.”
The aggressive tactics have been used against men who ordinarily would have been exempted from the draft. In at least one case, one man diagnosed with a “mental disability” as a child was summoned by recruiters, but his conscription was prevented by a lawyer.
Under martial law, men ages 18-60 are barred from leaving the country, but anyone under the age of 27 without prior military service is exempt from the draft. Ukraine’s parliament passed a bill lowering the age to 25 that Zelensky has yet to sign, but he signaled on Tuesday that he will.
When asked if he would approve the mobilization of women and men under 25, Zelensky said, “Women – no, I will not sign it … As for 25-year-old men, (yes) if all the arguments are presented. As of today, I see that it is necessary, so I agree with it.”
Ukraine’s efforts to fill its ranks come as it’s become clear that Ukrainian forces can not beat the Russians on the battlefield, and Ukrainian Marines have said they’re being sent on “suicide” missions across the Dnieper River. Despite the reality on the ground, President Biden is seeking over $60 billion to fund the war for another year, which has yet to be approved due to a partisan dispute on border policies.
Zelensky said he’s confident that the US will continue funding the war and his government. “We are working very hard on this, and I am certain the United States of America will not betray us, and that on which we agreed in the United States will be fulfilled completely,” he said.
Why not just produce 500k crash test dummies for the meat grinder?
Inadequate industrial capacity. Maybe Germany could manufacture them. No, German energy costs are too high.
I guess they’ll just have to use retirees and teenage girls.
More human sausage for the fascist meat grinder,more profit for the unholy.
Operation Meat Grinder
Amazed that nobody in the GOP, or Senate staffers, ever thought to mention to Zelenskiyy that there’s an app CALLED Grinder where he can find plenty of men willing to serve in the front OR the rear and either take or dole out a real pounding !
That’s exactly what he is doing. Wait!? That’s exactly what you said? …Okay then. It’s like you said. LOL
Wow!! If the Z-man succeeds in his outrageous proposed military draft, then how longer must I dread the same here, at age 73? At age 20, I succeeded in dodging General Hershey’s first sweepstakes to lose the already-lost Vietnam war. Can I hope for the same success over 50 years later?
I did not dodge the draft,spent my tour in Germany and served my country drinking beer and learning how to ski,it was tough duty,getting to travel in Europe.
Zelensky said he’s confident that the US will continue funding the war and his government.
right then. conglomerate corporations are getting US dollars in record amounts with their inflation of food prices. oil companies are getting US dollars in record amounts with their inflation of oil prices. pentagon is getting US dollars in record amounts with their 800+ military bases.
why shouldn’t Ukraine get US dollars in record amounts as well?
Yes, ‘Operation Prosperity Guardian’ appears hesitant here.
NATO troops directly involved in Ukraine conflict – Russia
Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has claimed that US, UK, and Polish military personnel are operating air defense and multiple launch rocket systems
https://www.rt.com/russia/589340-russia-defense-shoigu-nato-troops-ukraine/
so what happens when Russia starts directly targeting NATO emplacements in Ukraine?
Russia has already said that NATO in Ukraine is unacceptable to them.
Shoigu also said that the number of foreign militaries participating on Ukrainian side in this war became 6 times smaller than a year ago while the number of foreign militaries participating in the war on Russian side became 7 times bigger. He talked about foreign volunteers who joined Russian army. Some countries offered a direct military help but the offers were declined. Russian defense ministry had already a negative experience with some unsubordinated to the ministry military units, they don’t want have such problems again. Remember Wagner? At the moment Russia plan no mobilization. They have enough of volunteers.
Are you curious to know what could have happened to the 80 or so Germans who most likely were operating the possibly and allegedly recently destroyed Patriot unit? …No. Not what “the Russian shovels” have done to them, I can use my imagination for that. It’s whether they made it to Heaven or Hell?
ok i am about to show you and everybody else what we (the American Youth) thought about Heaven and Hell way back in 1979 =
even back then we (youths) realized that yalls will mess with us at your own peril. don’t be stupid old guys, because now we are the old guys ….
NA, i still have a beer in my fridge just for you – beers are for old guys!
edit) = oh shit i just realized that my Mama is an old guy.
what will i do & say when she passes on and i become the old guy ? i will have to remind my wife that she is also an old guy.
(not looking forward to that conversation).
One beer is not gonna be enough for us to compare notes, my brother. But, I’m also good with Russian Vodka. Like my father always told me, “Liquor is quicker!” Luv you, man!
The Russians already have targeted NATO in Ukraine, to devastating effect.
Probably, 500 thousand new soldiers + $110 billions converted into modern weapons ($50 billions provides EU), is enough to defend Kiev next summer but hardly it is enough to keep the front as it is. And yet they are dreaming about a new offensive. If NATO will provide other 500 thousand well trained and well equipped soldiers, they may try something. And even then, hardly they have any chance to reach Crimea, leave alone to win the war. Russian army and Russian economy are ready for a long war with NATO. In a way, it is even beneficial for Russia.
Of course he “Can” mobilize another 500,000 soldiers, one way or another. But anyone who wanted to fight, or believed in this war, has already volunteered; what’s left are the unfit and the unwilling, and they will get the same very unsatisfactory, hodge podge mishmash of “NATO training” that the previous season’s harvest received; and the weapons to arm them are going to be less than what they had last year both in quantity and quality. So not seeing this as much of a “plan”, unless the intent is simply to drive up casualties.
Kiev regime has no choice. They can’t just take their bags and leave the country (actually, some members of Ukrainian parliament are doing that already). At least, they can’t do it without permission from Washington. Biden and his team are trying hard to support Ukraine until the end of the elections because the collapse of Kiev regime will damage their reputation even further. On the other hand, not much can be done anyway.
“Ukraine’s parliament passed a bill lowering the [conscription] age to 25.”
1/ Reminder: men over 40 is on table too:
“Zelensky spent his time in Washington pleading for more US aid…told senators…he is considering conscripting men over 40.”
“Republicans Tell Zelensky No Ukraine Aid Until Border Deal” (Antiwar, 12/12/23)
2/ This is so, so sad.
“lowering the [conscription] age to 25.”?? Why, is it because there is nothing left under 25?
What is the age limit, maybe 80 or so? Not much left in that age group.
That’s a done deal. I didn’t save links, but supposedly the average age serving is already over 40. And he loosened restrictions on chronic illness and conditions like HIV.
43.
https://www.businessinsider.com/average-age-ukrainian-soldier-43-amid-personnel-problems-2023-11
Thanks, wars!
I don’t know why everybody is so upset. He promised to fight until the last Ukrainian. He’s keeping his promise and you can’t get there unless you do exactly what he’s doing. It’s probably the only promise he can keep. Now, Sit Down and Shut Up! …No. …No, not you my antiwar friends, I still love you.
He’s puffing up his feathers like a peacock.
Zelensky is a dead.man walking.
Edited to say “_____ ” because Disqus hasn’t put “_____” on its list of bad words yet. But it’s coming, I can assure you.
Disqus. Is. Stupid. So much for AI.
This post has been delivered to you by a non-AI Entity, formally known as OldGuy. Ta ta. Just shitcan it Thomas.
It appears that Zelensky is intent on carrying out an ethnic cleansing of Ukraine. That is, to rid Ukraine of its Ukrainians, either by their death on the battlefield or by causing them to flee the country to save their own lives. The conscripts of his new army will be a lot of men and women in their fifties and sixties. Young women will pour out of the country in all directions. And many of the young men are already gone, wounded, or dead.
Zelensky is a psychopath, who has had many opportunities to avoid war with Russia, but instead prefers to send young boys to their death.
Because the even bigger demented psychopath in the WH prevented him from taking the opportunity. The clown has to do as told or else.
This week Russian Defence Minister Shoigu states that according to the Russians there have been ~338,000 Ukrainians KIA. However, as many experts have noted, the Russians are very conservative in their count and only include verifiable deaths. The true number is likely far higher.
A few weeks ago a Ukrainian TV channel accidentally disclosed that ~1.2 million Ukrainians are KIA/MIA, a truly horrifying number that seems closer to the truth. That doesn’t even include the millions WIA.
Recent video has proven that Ukraine is sending very old men (as in 70 years old!), mentally handicapped men, women (even pregnant) and young kids to the meat grinder, where they are being slaughtered in wholesale fashion.
What’s happening is disgusting. Zelensky will hopefully be shot or meet a grisly end, but NATO and in particular, the US and UK, are fully complicit in what has happened. The price they pay will be very painful, and rightly so.
In my mind Ukraine too is genocide as much as Gaza and the WB.
Biden is really guilty, Zelensky when he was more lucid was willing to settle with Russia in Spring 2022, the nation of freedom and democracy and human rights told him no, and of course the clown did as directed.
Biden is a very evil man, true he is demented, but his cabinet is still lucid, they are even more evil than the demented old man because they are not demented, they know what they are doing. They are brutal mass killers what for, more money, when is enough enough?
We need a Nurnberg tribunal and a new death penalty just for them.
Zelensky will sell the very last man standing for cannonfodder and greedy Biden will pay for it to make the MIC happy and he wins the election. Not a sane person to be seen in D.C. And Zelensky II, the spineless little worm in Berlin, Germany can’t sell Germany to Biden fast enough.
I see Z has been reading up on Uncle Adolf’s late WW2 bid to save Berlin from the Red Army by calling out the Volkssturm. He might want to read up on how that worked out for Germany.
On another tack, to borrow from ‘A Man for All Seasons’: “It profits a man nothing to gain the whole world if he should lose his soul- but for NATO?”
Adolf, evil as he was, was a real leader of his nation. Zelensky is a puppet of foreign oligarchs. He is an actor playing a role. Ukrainian land and other assets are sold to foreign and local oligarchs. Ukrainian people have nothing. They are dying defending the assets which don’t belong to them.
Ukraine can absolutely beat Russia if they are given the equipment they need. At the moment, they’re running out of shells and have had to scale back operations. The Russians are taking advantage of that and are beginning to gain ground. Our fault, not theirs.