Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) on Tuesday dismissed growing calls to condition military aid to Israel, calling them “ridiculous,” as Israel has been killing civilians at a historic pace in Gaza.
“Our relationship with Israel is the closest national security relationship of any country in the world. And to condition, in effect, our assistance to Israel on their meeting our standards, it seems to me is totally unnecessary,” McConnell said, according to The Hill.
While the majority of Congress staunchly backs Israel and wouldn’t want to place limits on US military support, there have been growing calls from some Democrats and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to put conditions on US aid.
“The United States must make clear that while we are friends of Israel, there are conditions to that friendship and that we cannot be complicit in actions that violate international law and our own sense of decency,” Sanders wrote in The New York Times last week.
According to The Intercept, Sanders said he might push a vote on conditioning the over $14 billion President Biden is seeking to fund Israel’s onslaught in Gaza, which, according to the most conservative estimates, has killed at least 10,000 civilians.
The mass slaughter of civilians has not fazed hawks in Congress. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has said there is “no limit” to the number of civilians Israel can kill before it would lose US support.
While Graham is an ultra-hawk, his view reflects that of the Biden administration, which has said it would not draw “red lines” for Israel despite the massive civilian casualties. The US is issuing warnings over Israel’s coming campaign in south Gaza, but there’s no sign it’s looking to leverage military aid.
As he should. The IDF has been taking every reasonable measure to reduce if not eliminate civilian casualties in their counter-terrorism and anti-genocide operations against the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas that knowingly attempts to hide in civilian infrastructure in an attempt to cause civilian casualties specifically due to their and only their actions, with them bearing full responsibility for every casualty that has occurred in this terrorist and genocidal conflict of choice. It can be recalled that the U.S. government has recently stated that “As long as America Exists, It Will Support Israel”, so as such the future for Israeli and U.S. cooperation against terrorism and attempts of genocide seems only bright. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d900440f703104d1d3c632203325d6fc7e3bcad9814401e8145e933737a220d2.jpg
Boy the IDF was sure careful when they shot up the kibbutz and the rave venue. It turns out that most of the deaths were caused by IDF tanks and Apache helicopters. The operators of those instruments of death were ordered to fire indiscriminately. A fact witnessed by Israelis who were there and witnesses it. The IDF has been super careful when bombing UN schools, Palestinians hospitals, bakeries, ambulances. Oh so careful. Just think, if the IDF were not so careful there may be 30,000 dead Palestinians instead of 15,000 (of which nearly 5,000 are children). So, who is the terrorist: Lowkey:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhiPPq7Gak
I have that clown on ignore. Let me guess, he said the “brave” IDF goes out of their way to avoid civilian casualties. And I bet he mentioned the actions of the IDF as “counter terrorism” and “anti genocide”. Was I close?
no cigar. …. he basically suggested that crisis inadvertently “emerged” and were then “mishandled” by both Bush jr admin. (9/11) and Netanyahu admin. (10/7) …. my opinion is that both crisis were manufactured by said administrations.
evidence Israel killed its own citizens on 7 October
https://electronicintifada.net/content/evidence-israel-killed-its-own-citizens-7-october/41156
How IDF killed its Own Citizens on Oct. 7
Max Blumenthall and Chris Hedges
https://www.islamicity.org/…
Israel Admits It Killed Its Own At Nova Music Festival
https://www.google.com/sear…
i guess one could call that friendly-fire (accidental collateral damage),
but another one might call it false-flag operation.
A false flag that got out of control. BB just wanted an “incident” (i.e., a couple of dead Jews) to justify another ‘lawn mowing’ … and postpone his criminal trial.
Except no, “ …most of the deaths” were absolutely not caused by the IDF. Because this would appear to be approximately the same “response” and the same “video”, I figured I might as well reuse the response I’ve previously given it:
That was a horrifically graphic video that didn’t appear to be actually informative or useful. It features some individual attempting to rap the equivalent of “9/11 was terrible, but what about Agent Orange”? And at a certain point, yeah what about it? Because if your ever attempting to add a “but” in terms of the September 11th terrorist attacks, you might need to take a good long look at what exactly you’d be attempting to accomplish. While yes, the U.S. has certainly made mistakes, that does not ever justify an indiscriminate terrorist attack against a civilian population, nor would an actual terrorist ever simply be for “peace and love”. So personally I guess I might prefer my “rap” with a little bit more melody and a lot less political trite.
The most moral Army since the Waffen SS!
But you are right in that as long as the federal government exists, it will support Israel. Which is why the only question I ask every federal election is “does this candidate lead toward a shattering of the Union or not.”
That’s why I’m Trump 2024. He may not do it himself, but he is definitely on the right side of that ledger.
Trump will do what ever he wants that benefits him. It will be very easy for Israel to get Trump to do their bidding. He is easily played by foreign governaments.
Yep.
When he was running for president the FIRST time, he publicly opined that the Israelis needed to work out a peace deal with the Palestinians. Then Sheldon Adelson waved a $100 million check under his nose and he instantly became “the most pro-Israel presidential candidate in history.”
Trump is a Zionist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/trump-censures-us-jews-who-are-not-doing-the-right-thing-for-israel-in-zoa-speech/amp/
So are all the other candidates. But Trump is the only one who may precipitate a collapse of the National government. And if not he will at least push us in that direction.
Is this some sort of parody?
Mathematically it HAS to be. HAS to be.
Can’t be them-there Hasbro ‘bots ’cause at least those have a semblance of subtlety.
Go to hell, hasbara troll…
“ We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Karl Rove
Okay, George Bush’s former political consultant made a suspicious political statement. This definitely would be relevant to or somehow invalidate Israel’s justified self-defense response though, right? Edit: I apologize for the sarcasm, it just annoys me a little when individuals might attempt to compare Israel to some off the excesses of the Bush administration (with the somewhat significant caveat that both appeared to have improperly handled national crises that emerged during their respective administrations).
As he should. Hamas has been taking every reasonable measure to reduce if not eliminate civilian casualties in their counter-terrorism and anti-genocide operations against the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Israel that deliberately attempts to exterminate the Palestinians and bears full responsibility for every casualty that has occurred in this 100-year terrorist and genocidal conflict of choice. It can be recalled that the treasonous U.S. government stooges repeatedly state that “As long as America Exists, It Will Be Israel’s Bitch”, so as such the future for the Israeli and U.S. partnership in global terrorism and genocide seems only bright.
Fixed that for you.
You are a disgusting sh!tstain on humanity and a criminal accomplice in the Murdering Liars/Lying Murderers’ project for world domination.
To quote Bob Dylan:
” … I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand over your grave
Til I’m sure that you’re dead”
***************
A final note: How this will play out is uncertain. Many world actors are working feverously to prevent it from exploding into a wider war. They may very well succeed.
I hope they fail. I hope the Neocon-dominated husk of a US President and the treasonous Ziobitch of a Congress go into full slavish obsequious mode to their Zionist monster masters and provide unlimited “support” for the resumption of the genocidal effort to exterminate the Palestinians “Root and Branch”. Go for it!
With the result that the rest of the world turns its back on criminal Israel as the Arab and Muslim masses rise up and ***FINALLY*** erase the Zionist cancer — they now possess the military means to do it — from the pages of history.
Then at last we may have a chance at peace in the world.
Aside from being extremely improper and uncalled for in regards to this account, that was mostly a series of unsupported assertions. Hamas is a terrorist organization because they deliberately target and hide behind civilians and civilian architecture, Israel would absolutely not be as they have attempted political solutions numerous times and taken every reasonable precaution in an attempt to reduce if not eliminate civilian casualties only for unjustified unprovoked violence, terrorism and acts of genocide to continue to be targeted against them after the worst genocide in the history of the world necessitated the creation of a state to defend themselves, something recent events appear to have shown the need for. The U.S. had some issues related to counter-terrorism against Taliban forces due to their tactics of concealment and subterfuge, however, in an actual military confrontation Iran has not sufficiently armed its proxies to withstand a combined arms U.S. backed strike, Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. would probably be on the U.S. side, splitting this hypothetical and unrealistic “Arab Coalition” down the middle (most “Arab” states actually despise the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas), while in an actual conflict scenario rules on drone strikes would probably be loosened which would probably lead to numerous examples of possible upper leadership being periodically eliminated if not entirely removed. That and the “Arab” states you’d cite as bringing ” …peace in the world” have an abysmal track record of attempting to do that, with peace at the end of a sword being no peace at all. It might be popular to criticize U.S. mistakes or errors, yet any worldwide coalition that might grant significant decision making ability and/or power to “states” like Iran or Afghanistan would probably be much, much worse. But then again you appear to have disqualified your entire attempted argument when you attempted to state that “Hamas has been taking every reasonable measure to reduce if not eliminate civilian casualties” when they are an organization defined by committing the terrorism and acts of genocide their charter explicitly calls for: https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-us%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Funderstanding-hamas-s-genocidal-ideology%2Far-AA1i0jaZ%3AcPp2dhnOy1Q8glT4lLsWw9c-1jw&cuid=18764. The other attempted assertions didn’t even appear to make particular sense within their “context”, as why would this be a part of “world domination” if current events might imply they might already have that. Those attacks against U.S. bases by the “Muslim world” don’t appear to have been going very well after all. But sure, eliminating the victims of the largest genocide in the history of the world’s ability to defend themselves would be sure to bring about “world peace”, right? I guess I’ll continue supporting a response aimed at protecting an innocent people along with their friends, families from terrorism and acts of genocide due in part to the response’s successes, ideals and high moral standards that can stand as an ideal for the rest of the world to aspire to, regardless of any attempted insults that might be attempted within the context of an online internet forum, and as such I’d appear to continue to have little to “accomplice” or possibly be incorrect on in relation to this conflict.
Blah blah blah, yeah right!
The usual Hasbarist boilerplate, spiced up with some sophistry, Zionist mythology, and apologism.
Get back to me when your blabber can stop a bullet. The Arabs are coming for the Zionist cancer.
So your final attempted “point” would quite literally just be a violent variation of the discredited “might makes right” idea. The scenario you’d appear to be attempting to present wouldn’t even appear to be in your favor, as in a state of conventional warfare the U.S., along with presumably Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E., would have more than enough technology and material to properly deal with Iran along with its regional proxies. Would Syria be joining this hypothetical coalition? Yemen? As such, you’d continue to appear to be unable to actually prove my supported stances and reasoning wrong.
“… the U.S. … would have more than enough technology and material to properly deal with Iran along with its regional proxies.”
Iran? Who’s talking about Iran? I’m talking about 450 million Arabs backed by an additional one billion Muslims. But just the same, Iran alone has a massive inventory of precision-guided ballistic- and cruise-missiles and drones, which in war games have already been shown to inflict massive losses on US assets in the region … as well as Israel. In other words, the US loses comprehensively.
So let them try.
And that’s not even considering Hezbollah’s tens of thousands of missiles, many of them precision-guided as well. and then there’s Turkey with its massive military.
So let Israel and the US try.
When the Neocon-subverted US (and its NATO lackeys) threatened Russia in Ukraine, certain that they would defeat Russia, Putin said, “Let them try.” And it’s there for all the world to see how that worked out for Neocons Nuland, Blinken, Sullivan et al.
So let Israel and the US try.
The IDF is very skilled at murdering unarmed civilians, brutalizing women and children, and fabricating ridiculous propaganda projections of their own degeneracy onto others.
But Oct 7th proved that they are no match in a real fight with “real” adversaries.
Let them try.
For 100 years we’ve seen the character of Zionist administration of that region of the world. It seems only fair that we should now try 100 years of Palestinian administration, and see how that compares … because that is what’s coming.
The assertion that “1 billion ‘Muslims'” would back this hypothetical coalition would be highly dubious, as numerous organizations have attempted to issue “fatwas” calling on them to support their organizations and goals, with relative successes being measured in the thousands. I’ve pointed to Iran as they’d appear to logically be the leader of this hypothetical militant faction, yet even they’d be severely weakened by their inability to unify their general population around their government let alone launching an unprovoked assault against U.S. forces. The assertion that Turkey could be involved militarily against the U.S. is also of a similar caliber in terms of plausibility, as firstly in terms of their military their integration with Nato assets and military resources would be something they would be unlikely to break, this also being an incredibly weakness as if they were to break it as U.S. forces would subsequently know exactly which resources they would have and where with the potential of numerous Nato officers already stationed within the country able to cause significant damage, and secondly against a country of the caliber of the United States any resources they might offer would probably be negligible, with Ukraine having quickly phased out their signature and much publicized “Bayraktar” drone after its performance was at best negligible during the conflict in Ukraine, with these resources as such presumably performing much worse against a U.S. led coalition with extensive knowledge and information on these and any other possible resources due to Turkey’s Nato affiliations. Iran and its hypothetical coalition would absolutely be unable to achieve victory due to the U.S. having absolute escalation dominance in terms of technology and resources, with the defeat of Tehran simply being a matter of how much they’d be willing to lose before they’d concede. The situation with the current conflict involving Russia would be incredibly different due to their highly developed industrial base that the U.S. has refrained from directly striking, something Iran or its allies would not have in an event of a direct war with U.S. and undoubtedly its numerous allies. In an event of a regional conflict with Iran and/or possibly Yemen or Lebanon, one could expect most of this infrastructure to be destroyed within days, especially given Iranian military failures in being unable to even deter U.S. naval assets in the region. While in the short term, some losses could be inflicted on U.S. or Nato forces within the region, after perhaps even the initial day Iranian coalition prospects would begin to look incredibly dour, as most exports such as natural resources would simply not be purchased by their chief consumers, with a U.S. coalition possibly reversing sanctions on Russia if there would ever be a pressing need for more material or resources previously obtained from those countries. In the event of an actual unprovoked unjustified terrorist attack against the United States the rest of the world would also probably be galvanized to join the U.S. side and/or the gradual crippling of the hypothetical Iranian coalition, with countries such as China and India undoubtedly joining as well given their own experiences with the brand of Islamic “fundamentalist” terrorism Iran has come to represent. Russia had an official explanation of why it attacked the country that it did that would apply to basically no other countries, if the Iranian coalition’s explanation would be that the U.S. supported anti-genocide operations through some military shipments they would be unlikely to win any diplomatic victories or possible support from other factions. Yet to return to the attempted arguments against Israel and the IDF, the Israeli military was certainly more than capable against the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas, decisively pushing back their only advance as well as continuously eliminating large portions of their leadership within the “Gaza” region. Their failures appear to have stemmed from a misguided sense of appeasing the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas, a mistake they would be incredibly unlikely to repeat in the event of a large-scale existential regional conflict. As such, given that you’d appear to be unable to prove your attempted assertions, why an imminent existential defeat of Israel would be imminent, or even the vague assertions related to the “character” of the state of Israel, there appears to continue to be little to actually prove my supported stances and reasoning wrong.
“The Arabs are coming for the Zionist cancer.” They have been doing that for 75 years. How did it work out in 1948, 1967 and 1973?
Both Americans and Israelis have a long habit of stroking themselves as they celebrate how manly and powerful and unbeatable they are. But if you’ve been paying attention you’ve perhaps noticed that the Americans haven’t been able to win anything since WW2 and most recently skedaddled from Afghanistan in a chaotic “soyboy” fashion. The Israelis on the other hand have demonstrated their martial prowess mostly by beating up on unarmed Palestinians, particularly women and children. Then comes October 7th and their vaunted military gets its ass kicked royally.
So, tell you what Tim, let’s wait and see how it plays out.
That said, check out my response above to Mirrors Edge. The one that starts with “… the U.S. … would have more than enough technology and material to properly deal with Iran along with its regional proxies.”
And I would note in closing that propaganda doesn’t win wars. If it did Putin would be in The Hague and Victoria Nuland would be appointing the next president of Russia.
Reality, what a concept.
In a rare, candid conversation, Abby Martin interviews a former Israeli Army combat soldier who served as an occupier in Palestine’s Hebron City. Eran Efrati spent years as a sergeant and combat soldier in the Israeli military, but has since become an outspoken critic of the occupation of Palestine and Israeli apartheid.
Efrati gives explosive testimony on the reality of his service and explains how war crimes are institutionalized,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1382&v=FkxJd88xkBU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2F&source_ve_path=MzY4NDIsMjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo
“they now possess the military means to do it” Who are “they”?
Graham is not a superhawk. He’s a piece of human excrement not fit to be in the company of human beings.
Oh so now Bernie backs off from his previous stance. Perhaps being called out by Norman Finkelstein may have rattled his brain just a little.
90% of Republicans again reveal themselves as ****s and traitors
America first . . . after Israel
Freedom of speech . . . but not against Israel
Reduce spending . . . except for Israel
But it’s not like that percentage is much less amongst democrats. Maybe “the squad” skewers it a bit but not to the point that it would ever make a difference.
“the squad” might be ineffectual but i would choose those “dim-wits” over the rest of them any day
“”90% of Republicans again reveal themselves as ****s and traitors””
“again” being the key word there.
“”to condition, in effect, our assistance to Israel on their meeting our standards, it seems to me is totally unnecessary,”” McConnell said.
oh Israel could never meet US standards, which have been responsible for the killing of countless millions of innocent civilians for 300 + years now.
isn’t that right, Dresden? it certainly is Iraq, it certainly is ….
“Meeting our standards”? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow. Thank you for bring up Dresden. Nets has used that as an example to justify the Zionist actions against the Palestinians.
We all remember the 500,000 dead Iraqi children and how these deaths were “worth it” to a country 5,000 miles away …
If you want to know the depths of perversity, we also bombed Iraqi water treatment centers and then prevented them from rebuilding them and importing Chlorine … medieval level savagery.
Israelis would have to work much much harder to try to match our “standards” …
red cross = 1.5 million innocent Iraqi civilians killed by uncle sam
Dresden? The US Army bombed the rail yards, the Brits bombed the housing. Dresden had 100 plus factories and 50,000 workers to make weapons for Germany. And it was a major rail hub. It was a valid target by WW2 standards. Yes, Germany had lost war at that point, but they refuse to surrendered.
wikipedia = The bombing of Dresden was a joint British and American aerial bombing attack on the city of Dresden, the capital of the German state of Saxony, during World War II. ….. Two United States Air Force reports, (uncle sam, of course) published in 1953 and again in 1954, defended the operation as the justified bombing of a strategic target,.
Critics of the bombing have asserted that Dresden was a cultural landmark with little strategic significance, and that the attacks were indiscriminate area bombing and were not proportionate to military gains.[10][11][12] Some have claimed that the raid constituted a war crime.
As your article said Dresden was a strategic target. If was full of factories and major rail hub. Notice that critics do not deny it was a military target only that the value of the target was not worth the cost. Well that is easy to say after the war but impossible to asset during the war. The only cost the allies were concern with at this time was the lost of aircraft over the target.
We have seen our standards in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Panama, Syria & more.
Someone PLEASE arrest this man, for aiding War Criminals.
He should have been six feet under a long time ago…!
And he and his cohorts alike call themselves Christians?
McConnell is an old decrepit moral monster just as Biden.
They are both in the same war party.
I always call him the decomposing corpse. He even has that adipocere sheen going.
They call each other “friends”.
“Our relationship with Israel is the closest national security relationship of any country in the world. And to condition, in effect, our assistance to Israel on their meeting our standards, it seems to me is totally unnecessary,” McConnell said, according to The Hill.
What should our assistance be conditioned on if not our standards? McConnell should just stick to blankly staring off into space until someone comes to escort him back to his happy place.
And cover up his rotting hands. Eeeeew…………
The other drooler matches our drooler in chief.
Fearless Droolers
What they need to do is stop AIPAC from buying congressmen
AIPAC should be forced to register under FARA.
Open a dictionary to get the meaning of ‘Deep Stater’ and the face of the Turkey Mitch McConnell would appear. Until we get rid of these old putrid bought and sold ass tootin rheumatism, decrepit, moldy mildewed politicians, nothing will change.
I always thought McConnell looked like Tooter Turtle.
Mitch is right. Aid to Israel, especially military aid, is ridiculous (whether it’s conditional or not).