David Arakhamia, a high-ranking member of Volodymyr Zelensky’s Servant of the People political party, said that Kyiv could have ended the war with Russia after a month if it agreed not to join NATO. The official said that Moscow was not concerned about other issues, such as “denazification,” but only wanted Kyiv to agree to neutrality.
In an interview with TV channel 1+1, a Ukrainian network, Arakhamia confirmed previous reporting that Moscow and Kyiv had nearly agreed to end the war in March 2022. Still, Ukraine’s Western backers pushed it to try to win the war against Russia. “They really hoped almost to the last moment that they would force us to sign such an agreement so that we would take neutrality,” Arakhamia said.” It was the most important thing for them. They were prepared to end the war if we agreed to – as Finland once did – neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.”
Arakhamia, who led the Ukrainian negotiation team, said that other issues, such as the protection of ethnic Russians in Ukraine and the “denazification” of the government in Kyiv, were less important to Moscow. “In fact, [neutrality] was the key point.” He continued, “Everything else was simply rhetoric and political ‘seasoning’ about denazification, the Russian-speaking population and blah-blah-blah.”
The high-ranking official explained that Kyiv was unlikely to accept Putin’s offer during the talks in Istanbul because the Ukrainian leadership did not believe Russia could be trusted. However, he went on to say that then-UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson cemented Kyiv on the path of fighting a long war with Russia. “[The deal] could only be done if there were security guarantees. We could not sign something, step away, everyone would relax there, and then they would [invade] even more prepared – because they have, in fact, gone in unprepared for such a resistance, Arakhamia said. “Moreover, when we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them at all, and let’s just fight.”
Arakhamia explained that while Kyiv’s Western backers did not discourage talks, they advised against accepting a deal. “They actually advised us not to go into ephemeral security guarantees, which could not have been given at that time at all,” he stated during the interview.
The statements in the interview by Arakhamia confirm several reports from other officials – Russian, Turkish, and American – that a deal was offered by the Kremlin in the early days of the war to withdraw Russian forces to the prewar lines in exchange for Kyiv’s vow to never join NATO.
Now, after 20 months of war, Ukraine’s Western backers are discussing Kyiv’s opening dialogue with Moscow. Since the talks in the early months of the conflict, Russia has annexed four regions of Ukraine, suggesting Moscow is likely to demand more territorial concessions than what was once on the table for Kyiv.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
That didn’t happen and Ukraine paid the price…!
Ukraine is still paying the price. And the cost of repairing the wreckage when this disaster finally ends will be a price Ukraine is not likely to be able to pay.
Guess who will be paying for the reconstruction? Not BlackRock or J.P. Morgan but Mr. and Mrs. American Taxpayer.
I love you, Mary, but I don’t think so. Who paid for the reconstruction of Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Libya?
Since we effectively lost those wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya, we didn’t pay for reconstruction in those countries. If America wins against Russia in Ukraine it will be a different story. Black Rock, J.P. Morgan and other big American companies will loot Ukraine, and any reconstruction costs will be socialized onto the American taxpayers. That’s how I see it playing out. Of course if Russia wins in Ukraine, Russia will be on the hook to reconstruct Ukraine, or Russia could just let it be a failed state with nothing going for it. That’s how I see it. I love you too, NA.
Okay, understood, Mary! Makes sense. I hope Russia takes the eastern part (including Odessa) and gives the rump western part to the EU to choke on it just like a cat chokes on hairballs. Except, I’m a cat lover and hate to see cats suffer, while wish it on the EU because they deserve it.
I am a cat lover too. My daughter’s family has two cats that they adore. I no longer have a cat, but I do remember all the hairballs with our angora cat. Not pleasant to clean up. I agree that Russia should take Odessa, especially since the Ukrainian Nazis murdered all those ethnic Russians in that massacre.
Absolutely! It was nice to compare notes with you. This is terrible for all involved. Nobody needed this war and especially not the Ukrainians. They didn’t need NATO or the EU. They could have been Russia’s and China’s partners rather than their enemy. Instead, it appears/unconfirmed they have over 1.1 million casualties according to leaked information on a Ukrainian channel today. This was reported by the Military Summary Channel. It would not surprise me if true.
You two must have been part of the moral equivalency crowd during the Cold War.
Russia is paying the price too.
Nope, Russia is receiving the Price…!
Yes, 300,000 + KIAs plus the wounded. A very big price.
Cheers to that.
The ratio is at worst seven to one… So, if 300,000 Russians soldiers are dead, there must be 2.1 million Ukrainians killed…!
Yes, they are paying a price, but no one ever claimed that Ukrainian territory was free.
Yes, thank you. It was never free, nor for sale, nor for anyone to claim/annex. The land belong to Ukraine, period. Russia has no business what so ever in trying to take the Ukrainian sovereign land they themselves recognized under the Budapest Agreement. Another reason why Ukraine should not negotiate with dipsh!t Putin.
And when Ukraine entered NATO and the US planted missiles aimed at Russian then what ? , are you old enough to remember the US nearly going nuclear because of a few nukes in Cuba ? , Putin did exactly what a leader should do protect his country .
When that happens, Putin will not play with fire anymore.
And you feel the same way about Israel’s annexation of the Golan Heights, right?
The land belonged to Ukraine. Russia has annexed 20%. The window for negotiation is quickly closing if it has not already. If Ukraine doesn’t detach itself from the failing NATO alliance it will soon lose access to the Black Sea.
The fight was never about Russia taking Ukie sovereign land. It was about NATO NUKES on Ukie border and U.S Neocons achievng their “Full Spectrum Dominance over Russia by gaining first strike ability on Russia. Ukrainian idiots got lured to believe with U.S. & NATO backing they would be able to defeat Russia and get billions of U.S. free money to create a Nazi Dynasty.
Oh really? You guys cannot keep up with Putin’s war objectives.
Whatever happened to demilitarization and debazificatiin?
Ukraine is now getting respect and after this sh!t is over, your boy Putin wont come back for more.
Wrong again.
In the eyes of Biden’s Neocons, Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are a small price to pay, just like millions of Korean, Vietnamese, Iraqis, etc. That’s not interesting. Most interesting is that many of those who are dead, still believe they’re racially superior to the dumb Russians who managed to kill them. Go figure.
That also goes for the dead Israelis who still believe they’re racially superior to Palestinians, let alone the live ones….!
Those people believe they’re superior to *everyone*.
What a tragedy. Any peace they agree to now will cost Ukraine far more; and will have come with a price tag that includes the depopulation of Ukraine, massive destruction of infrastructure, the ruination of their economy, and hundreds of thousands dead.
But hey, Britain “suffered” too; they had to donate “14 Challenger 2 tanks” and a bunch of other obsolescent junk; don’t anyone say they didn’t “share the pain”.
Not so much of the junk J.L lol.
“Ukrainian Official Confirms Russia Was Ready to End War in March 2022 If Kyiv Agreed to Neutrality”
Joey Genocide Biden will be remembered as the tyrant who was responsible for the most deaths in the 21st century except for George W Bush.
They are both part of the War Uniparty.
We’re early on in this century, you might want to qualify that assessment by “…. early 21st century…” 🙂
this is The New American Century, arranged by POTUS Bush sr and implemented by POTUS Bush jr
Any agreement with Putin, was destined to be broken.
Putin is notorious for not honoring agreements.
“Moscow was not concerned about other issues such as Denazification.”
Yes, we already knew this. It has always been a BS pretext for the invasion and they know that, except the idiots on this site continuously repeating it .
Care to fill us in on all those agreements Putin dishonored?
Citation needed shit for brains.
Do your own non Russian MSM research.
Your citation asking per everything people say that you don’t like it’s kind of stupid.
We are not here to present evidence for every statement we make just to please you.
You are pro Russia/Anti US. You’ll disagree with my positions regardless of any credible source I provide so stop your citation asking BS.
Oh Donald. Were every atomic clock on Earth to cease functioning, I could still set my watch by your staunch refusal to provide evidence when simply asked.
Please don’t ever become a lawyer or scientist. Or if you are – PLEASE stop.
I have done plenty of research from Russian, Ukrainian, American, and European sources and I have yet to find an example of Putin breaking a signed agreement. I am open to looking at an example if you have one.
you should write a children’s book.
“The World According To Agent Julio”
No no no ! Don’t ask Donald for evidence ! He haaaaates that. No, his assertions about his version of our shared reality MUST be accepted as-is-and-where-is.
Name the treaties / promises broken by Putin ? , Putin has backed away from treaties / promise broken by the Americans and they are legion starting 300 years ago.
Here’s one, Budapest agreement and both Minsks.
You have got to be kidding! Putin was doing everything he could to see that the Minsk Accords were implemented. Angela Merkel, Petroshenko, and Hollande admitted that they only signed those accords to give Ukraine time to build up to fight Russia. They never intended to honor those accords. Did the U.S. honor the Budapest agreement when we paid for and staged the Maidan coup thereby overthrowing the democratically elected leader of Ukraine?
Merkel’s and Hollande’s regimes weren’t signatories of the Minsk accords.
True, but neither did they exert any pressure on Ukraine to fulfill its obligations under these agreements. And, as you know, Merkel and Hollande have acknowledged that the Minsk agreements were signed with the full and deliberate intention of not fulfilling them. Your comment is therefore irrelevant.
The first, known as the Minsk Protocol, was drafted in 2014 by the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine, consisting of Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), with mediation by the leaders of France and Germany in the so-called Normandy Format.
Correct. But once the agreements were drafted, there were four signatory states:
1) Ukraine
2) The Russian Federation
3) The People’s Republic of Luhansk
4) The People’s Republic of Donetsk
The OSCE did agree to provide monitors to certify that conditions were safe to hold the autonomy referenda in the latter two states, but they, with the assistance of Russia, made damn sure that those monitors could never provide such certification.
France and Germany were brokers of the Minsk Accords. I find it hard to believe that their signatures weren’t somewhere on those accords.
I really don’t know if they did or not, but this article says they did.
“The 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time,” Merkel told the weekly Die Zeit. “It also used this time to become stronger, as you can see today.”
Previously, the Minsk agreement, which Merkel signed together with then-French President François Hollande, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin in September 2014, had been portrayed as an effort towards peace that the Russian president had allegedly later thwarted.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/22/ffci-d22.html
the US did not honor the Budapest nor the Minsk agreements
you should write a children’s book.
“The World According To Agent Julio”
Children know s**t when they read it, tho.
Lol – see Begemot’s comment.
Both Minsk’s?……..get yourself factual information and quit embarrassing yourself.
At this rate, a new election must take place immediately and the entire rank and file must be purged to ensure any chance for a true peace.
…which is probably why Presidente 4 Life Zelenskiyy has suspended democracy for the foreseeable century.
just wait until Trump is reelected and does the same
Term limits are like speed limits – just recommendations.
Ukraine is finished as a country. The only remaining process is unconditional surrender and dismemberment.
The United States of Atrocities will choke on Moscow’s terms for peace in Ukraine. Make no mistake its a huge defeat for Nazism the US and NATO.
Everyone single Western world leader must go before the Hague.
The disastrous war in Ukraine, with so many deaths, displacements and destruction, was provoked by the Biden administration from day one, and Boris Johnson was a warmonger accomplice.
Lukily, Johnson is gone.
And Biden is getting closer to the door. The sooner the better.
Meet Ukraine’s mass murderer Dmitriy Yarosh……..
Is the founder and head of Ukraines racist-fascist Nazi party the right sector. He also co founded the fascist Social National Party, renamed to Svoboda by the CIA (meaning freedom) to make it more acceptable to Americans.
Dmitriy Yarosh has been training paramilitary troops for almost 25 years and his divisions are constantly growing all over Ukraine. These divisions carry out the most violent operations for the CIA in Ukraine (including the coup) and most of the country now lives in fear of him, even the nations President has had public threats made against him by Yarosh.
It was Yarosh’s divisions that were responsible for the massacre in Odessa and it is his divisions that commit attrocities in the Donbass, crimes against humanity, ethnically cleansing the Eastern federations. Yarosh hires only proud far-right mercenaries paid by him from funding provided by US government agencies and wealthy contributers.
Amazing! A certain moderator might be on vacation today. Otherwise, this truthful post would have been already removed before I had a chance to see it. Oh, wait. You didn’t mention Isr@el in your post. Never mind. Carry on.
Even if he had mentioned Israel in his post there would have been nothing in it that violated our guidelines, and it would therefore have not been removed. Heck, most of the posts here mention Israel, when they’re not mentioning Ukraine.
There is never an Issue posting Israel, its “Jew” that kicks in censorship. Now why would that be?
https://sputnikglobe.com/20231127/russian-navy-scrambles-sukhoi-fighters-to-sink-ukrainian-kamikaze-sea-drones-1115234193.html
In an oblique sense, Ukraine is winning the trifecta: Massive domestic economic degradation, extremely high personnel military losses, and they’re losing the drone war with Russia.
Unless they have an obsession or predilection toward reaching 2 million casualties, I suggest concentrating on the air and sea drone weapons deployments.
If Ukrainian officials want to be treated “kindly” by the Kremlin, post-conflict, Zelensky should avoid targeting concert halls, civilian infrastructure, and commercial and apartment buildings.
With Ukraine’s limited ammunition supplies, why does Kyiv waste those on the previously specified targets while implicitly admitting it can’t triumph over the Russians?
https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1237173-nato-ukraina-puti-vstupleniya
NATO countries plan to agree on recommendations for Ukraine’s entry into the alliance
This strikes me as a formal declaration of war against Russia. It means NATO plans to initiate a nuclear war as they have no conventional forces to counter Russia.
It may be meant to agitate the Kremlin or the Russian citizenry for its own sake.
Russia has all the time in the world.
Ukraine won’t be formally joining NATO, because it only takes one state to veto that.
However, the events since February 24, 2022 have made Ukraine a de facto NATO member for the long term.
“NATO plans to initiate a nuclear war as they have no conventional forces to counter Russia.”
Based on recent performance, the 939 personnel of the Lëtzebuerger Arméi should be sufficient.
Valerii Zaluzhnyi has stated he needs 20,000 new men per month to replace the losses and to keep his army going. Thats an average of 666 per day (you cant make this stuff up) of casualties on the front line.
Ukraine has already burnt through three NATO provided armies in 2 years with significant losses in men and machinery. NATO has the following losses in Ukraine; 542 Aircraft, 255 helicopters, 9257 UAV’s, 442 Anti Aircraft systems, 13647 tanks inc. APC’s, 1185 multiple rocket launchers, 7197 field artillery and 15666 military automotive equipment. Approx. $1 Trillion of NATO hardware.
They are now asking for a fourth NATO army to be provided, the problem is that Ukraine has run out of men to throw into the meat grinder. The 20-30 male age group has collapsed. The proposal now is to draft woman and children, presumably at gunpoint like the males.
Ukraine population in 2014 was 45 million. It would be lucky to be half that now. The Donbass and Crimea Oblasts account for 8 million, Kherson and Zaphorizhia Oblasts account for 3 million. Estimates are that 8 million have fled to neighboring countries since the coup.
The demographics of Ukraine indicate that the entity formally known as Ukraine will not survive. Ukraine is bordered by Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Russia and Belarus. With the exception perhaps of Belarus, all have historical and ethnic ties to parts of Ukraine. Putin could offer each of them Ukrainian territory in exchange for recognition of Russian aims, some of which already have been achieved.
Poland could be offered a strip of territory that would include Lvov; Slovakia could be offered the city of Uzhgorod; Hungary could be offered the territory of Trans-Carpathia; and Romania could be offered Bukovina and the section of Ukraine that lies between the Prut and Dniester Rivers. In addition, Russia could ratify Romanian interest in Moldavia, also known as Bessarabia, in exchange for Bucharest ceding interest in Transnistria to Moscow. For all of this, Novorossia would acquire a swath of territory in eastern Ukraine, along a line Kharkov-Poltava-Krivoy Rog-Voznessensk-Balta-Odessa.