Martin Griffiths, the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, said in an interview on Tuesday that the Israeli onslaught in Gaza is the worst humanitarian crisis he’s ever seen, even worse than the Killing Fields in Cambodia, where the Khmer Rouge killed over one million people from 1975-1979.
When asked by CNN host Christiane Amanpour how he assesses the humanitarian situation in Gaza based on his experience, Griffiths said, “The worst ever, Christiane, and I don’t say that lightly. I mean, I started off in my 20s dealing with the Khmer Rouge. And you remember how bad that was, the Killing Fields and so forth. But 68% of the people killed in Gaza are women and children. They stopped counting the number of children killed after four and a half thousand had been counted.”
Griffiths continued, “Nobody goes to school in Gaza. Nobody knows what their future is. Hospitals have become places of war, not of curing. Now, I don’t think I’ve seen anything like this before. It’s complete and utter carnage.”
Amanpour raised the issue of US and Israeli officials questioning the death toll in Gaza, something she said she’s never seen before. “Why do you think the Israelis, the spokespeople, the government, people who speak on behalf of them, are so fixated on the fact that we shouldn’t believe these figures this time? I’ve never seen it before,” Amanpour said.
Griffiths said Israel is challenging the figures because they’re so horrific. The Israeli campaign has made it impossible for Gaza’s Health ministry to count the dead. Its most recent update was on November 10, which put the death toll over 11,000, including over 4,500 children. More recent estimates put the death toll over 14,000, but the number is not confirmed.
The UN has said 1.7 million Palestinians in Gaza have been displaced from their homes, about four in five people in the enclave. “You can understand why Israel would challenge these figures because they are so horrific, and they have led to such a global reaction. Gaza is a global crisis, as you know,” Griffiths said.
This article is misleading, false and a distortion, and as such should be treated as such. First of all, there is quite a world of difference between major historical genocides (the largest genocide in the history of the world directly inspiring the creation of the state of Israel, in order for “never again” to be more than just a slogan) and a government attempting to protect its population from a terrorist and attempted genocidal strike, in which some civilians appear to have unfortunately lost their lives due to the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas putting innocent civilians in danger by hiding their weapons, personnel and equipment near them, almost always either without consent or under coercion, and then after purposefully putting them in clear and consistent danger attempting to use some of the unfortunate consequences they have specifically been attempting to create and bear full responsibility for to attempt to influence both the public and the media. The article quotes Amanpour having the absolute nerve to criticize the Israeli government for criticizing those relying on statistics attempting to be cited come from the “Gaza health ministry”, a direct arm of the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas that has been directly invalidated by world leaders due their efforts to distort the truth. An American television journalist quoting a direct arm of the Hamas government is the direct equivalent of directly quoting Al-Qaeda after the September 11th terrorist attacks, with the October 7th terrorist and genocidal attempt against Israel and their population being proportionally 7 times worse in terms of their population, as such Amanpour’s actions are complete violations of the journalistic code of ethics and standards journalists are required to uphold for fair and unbiased reporting. If the “situation” occurring would be a moral and restrained self-defense justified operation helping people secure a better, brighter future without unelected and unrepresentative terrorist and genocidal organizations such as Hamas, this is an outcome that should be welcomed by all parties involved. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b0be892d3db2ba02ef9f76dec5bd9465a32ddfa023e4737c7927ecdf490fd53.png
“An American television journalist quoting a direct arm of the Hamas government is the direct equivalent of directly quoting Al-Qaeda after the September 11th terrorist attacks”
Which any and every diligent and responsible journalist would have done in a hot second, given the opportunity.
There is quite a difference between quoting what a terrorist organization has used in its public messaging as opposed to directly relying on and quoting their published “statistics”, distributing or reporting them as factual information to people willingly paying to receive credible news and context about the world.
How many published “statistics” from the terrorist organization called the “Israeli Defence Force” do you “directly rely on and quote?”
Reporting that organization X said Y is called “journalism.”
Except you’d have yet to prove that Israel or the Israeli Defense Forces would ever constitute the equivalent of a “terrorist organization”. You’d also appear to have been misstating the points I’ve made previously, as I was specifically referring to a journalist distributing those “statistics” as facts rather than them reporting on them with proper context as terrorist propaganda. Your attempts to rationalize Israel with the organization they are directly fighting against is not appreciated given the gravity of the situation they are dealing with after a terrorist and genocidal incursion proportionally 7 times worse than 9/11 for their population, these events occurring after the largest genocide in world history was committed against them.
I can add you to the list: Julio, Tim, Jake, you have another brother. You don’t get it. Terror is holding a people hostage via occupation for 75 years, dashing hope, putting a people in despair. Terror is instituting a blockade that limits food, medicine, electricity, fuel for pumps, travel, while conducting night raids, detaining people for no reason, shooting them (even children). What those young men did on 7Oct23, was, according to the dictionary definition, an atrocity. I can agree with that. It was also a breakout from a concentration camp that has been in force for 75 years. Seventy five years. It is a long time. Something like 70% of the Palestinians are either descendants of those who were expelled during the Nakba of 1948, or actual people who were evicted in 1948. Also, Palestinians had nothing whatsoever to do with the Holocaust. Get it?
“t was also a breakout from a concentration camp that has been in force for 75 years.” 75 years? The Gaza strip was under Egypt control from 1948 to 1967. So are you saying that Egypt started the “concentration camp” and Israel just continued it?
BTW, I don’t keep lists, but if I did you would be on the top of the anti-Semitics list.
And that was an example of him being an antisemite? You’re out of your mind.
I haven’t ever denied that some of the actions the Israeli state has undertaken would be regrettable or immoral, with a recent example being the disastrous and pseudo-authoritarian “judicial reform” bill backed by Nehtanyahu. However, when you’d appear to be pushing the rhetoric of “concentration camps” and “limiting food, medicine and electricity”, despite Israel continuously providing as well as facilitating humanitarian aid corridors and subsequent aid deliveries: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/10/1212069162/israel-gaza-fighting-pause-explained after adequately warning and providing directions to civilians that they should leave conflict-zones: https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Fwor%3A0yHnvGAvATuuNgC_x067sfh8118&cuid=18764, as well as actually providing free electricity for areas like “Gaza” even after security control of the area has been lost: https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-electricity-idUSL8N1HZ32D/ that you might lose me.
You keep calling GAZA a concentration camp, open air prison and other memes.
Isn’t the definition of prison a place you can’t leave?
The only place Gazans can’t leave to is across the border to an enemy state.
The blockade started only after Hamas massacred the PA officials and took over Gaza. Since the HAMAS official charter is the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jews (look it up). a blockade is a reasonable (if somewhat ineffective) response.
Each and every one of the dead Palestinians would be alive if the Hamas terrorists decided not to murder civilians on October 7th.
Where is it that you fantasize the Gazans can leave to? The Israeli regime partly or entirely controls all border crossings (including the Rafah crossing into Egypt), and maintains a naval blockade.
Israel has no control over Rafah crossing or the Egyptian border. The Egyptians simply don’t particularly like Palestinians..
Funny how that “destruction of Israe” in Hamas’ charter still resulted in this:
Netanyahu: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told a meeting of his Likud party in 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
“Bezalel Smotrich, leader of Israel’s Religious Zionist Party and the current finance minister: The PA is a liability and Hamas is an asset. On the international playing field in this game of delegitimization, think about for a second, the PA is a liability and Hamas is an asset. It’s a terrorist organization. Nobody will recognize it, nobody will give it status at the ICC [International Criminal Court] and nobody will let them push resolutions at the UN [causing us to] need an American veto,” Smotrich said in 2015.
So? the fact that Bibi is a bad PM does not make Hamas stated goals any less real.
It makes their stated goals relevant. No Hammas, no October 7th.
Their own monster always returns to burn down their castle. Let’s not forget: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Yes, terrorism must be condemned. You, though are an apologist for and an aider and abettor of terrorism. You should be ashamed.
You should also learn about formatting your writing for reading. Start by reviewing “paragraphs.”
Okay, because at a certain point I’m beginning to get the impression I’ve given you more than a reasonable amount of evidence, reasoning and sources for why this would not be true, here’s a different strategy: can you prove that Israel would be engaging or have actually willingly promoted terrorism in the “Gaza” region, as otherwise there would be little for me to “aid” and/or “abet” for. And no, Israel would not be an “apartheid state”: https://disq.us/url?url=htt…, the threat they would be facing in the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas would be genocidal and very, very real: https://www.msn.com/en-us/n…, with the limited period Nehtanyahu thought the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas could change also not actually being a point. If anything, the only “nation-state” organization that should be ashamed currently is the government of what now appears to be the ultra-right idiot more commonly known as Nehtanyahu. The deal he has agreed to not only rewards and encourages further “hostage-taking” as well as death and destruction to occur within Israel, it gives the terrorist and genocidal organization known as Hamas time to rebuild and fortify after the IDF’s long awaited ground assault. He appears to have given too much credence toward white noise “pressure” from the U.S. aimed at a different approach without appearing to realize it was precisely these conciliatory tactics that allowed the Taliban, an organization that legitimately aided and abetted the terrorism behind 9/11, to return to power despite U.S. and coalition forces as well as presumably the “withdrawal” that occured during this period. Even if somehow hypothetically Israel were to be engaging in “terrorism” through their self-defense justified operations that take every reasonable measure to prevent if not eliminate civilian casualties, writing the equivalent of an online “post” on a “digital message board” would not be the equivalent of “aiding and abetting” those actions given the state of Israel as a whole would presumably be either indifferent to or unaware of such occurrences. I also haven’t specifically donated to Israel or the Israeli military yet, and I’m not sure if I would given their handling of the current conflict seems to be headed toward repeating the already committed mistakes of 2008 and 2014. Regardless, I’d value the content, clarity and reasoning presented within any given logic or reasoning far more than superficial stylization.
Dissident51 is correct in telling you that you need to learn to paragraph. No one wants to read your posts because they are too long and run on and on with no breaks for the eyes.
Don’t forget to mention that nothing he says is true or makes any sense.
“Distortions” of the truth can also be seen in broken mirrors. But, I sincerely hope he doesn’t stab himself in the eye, while looking for those distortions at the mirrors edge.
It seems to be the norm to either oppress, threaten, or incite ones neighbor or even intenal citizen, Then when they retalliate call them horrible terrorist while absolving the instigator of all blame.
Lets talk about misleading. . .
I personally abhor all the violence, but look at a child in your neighborhood and then imagine someone, (anyone) , maiming, oppressing, anc/or killing them.
There is no justification for inadequate attempts at being a decent neighbor.
There is no religous godly justification for this behavior. No religous excellence. No justification for mass killing of someone elses children. Its evil. Satanistic, Barbaric, Common, Unjustified, and Inhumane
Ever since 9-11 , this country The united states) abandoned peace and became evil minded. Israel as well is no better in any regards. And Hamas needs some serious thought into what the real answer would be. Peace is the goal, not war, and definitly not a palistinian holocaust.
Saying Israel is justified in mass murder of innocent civilians for any reason is the rantings of sick human minds.
There is a better way. But everyone wants to find reason to reject any such actions so the can once again play war like a sports event.
Talk peace, go to that table over and over. And over and over.
If you must chose war the do it with honor, not playing evil.
Blow your trumpet and enter into the tunnel and lets see if God has decided you are correct.
But justifying atrocities and killing children (as bad as pedophilia in my book) for the previous events on the other side is a sick endless game played by psycopaths and murderers who in reality have no answers but to root for their home team as if they are in the roman colloseaum.
Very sick indeed. And of lesser human stature. Barbaric mentality. And sub human. A preverse form of serial killing by all involved.
Largest Genocide ?
60 million Chinese by Japan
30 million Russians by Bolsheviks
25 million Russians by Fascists
9 million Koreans by the Pentagon
5 million Southeast Asians by the Pentagon
5 million Bengalis by Churchill
Now that is saying something…
The Killing Fields…
No shit.
What is happening to the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank made me think of the scene in “Bladerunner” where Roy recounts his life, his experience, shows Deckard his humanity. The dialog: “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off
the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the
Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in
rain. Time to die.”It prompted me to compare Roy’s death to the current deaths of Palestinians, and the deaths to come. Palestinians are a forgotten people, except to be referred to as “terrorists”, “animals”, “subhuman”, as had Roy and the other replicants, who were singled out to die. If only our President could see the humanity in the Palestinians, and not let them die.
To see humanity in the Palestinians, a person would require a very small amount of humanity in their heart. That ain’t happening, VLP.
It’s also a function of msm who relentless harp on hostages, but no context with the Hannibal directive and no airing of the atrocities and inhumanity foisted on people in Gaza. After watching a few, I couldn’t hold back tears because the horror was just too much. Screaming infants in terrible pain injured by bombing is just too depraved for words.
100%. This morning before I had a chance to switch away from the local news, they were sure to mention that Hamas was holding 50 hostages that were women and children in the same breath they were sure not to mention that the 150 Palestinians were actually jailed women and children. They are disgusting.
There was a video with an older Palestinian woman. Volunteers had come in and prepared a large vat of lentil soup. This woman expressed so much sincere gratitude, my heart broke for her. So little but it meant so much. Those volunteers are heroic.
The intentional starvation is no better than Hitler’s reign and policy inside concentration camps.
Just wait till after the trade when the hostages get back home and you hear the sob stories ofhow horrible it was to be in the hands of Hamas. Yet nothing about the others
The stories are probably already written.
Agreed 👍
To see the humanity in people requires that the seer is capable of relating to humans, to living beings.
Netanyahu in Hebrew means: “Yah/God has given.” And “It’s complete and utter carnage” is his middle name.
He is Hitler Numero Dos…!
If Israel was not so nice, a lot more than “68% of the people killed in Gaza
are(would be) women and children.” But who knows, because thank God they stopped counting. (Sarcasm, I swear. Here it is again: Sarcasm)DO SOMETHING.
And the Biden administration calls this Humanitarian disaster a “vindication” of Biden’s policy because of the hostage agreement. You know, the one that starts on Friday so the Humanitarian disaster can continue until then and start right back up afterward.
Outrageous.
The president has finally revealed himself to be the monster. He and Netanyahu are equally culpable for the war crimes being committed in Gaza, and I suspect worse will come if these two war criminals get their way.