Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said Wednesday that Egypt warned Israel of a potential attack three days before Hamas launched its incursion into southern Israel, confirming earlier reports.
“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” McCaul said after a closed-door intelligence briefing. “I don’t want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given. I think the question was at what level.”
Shortly after the Hamas attack was launched, an Egyptian intelligence official told the AP that Cairo had given a warning that something was coming. “We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” the official said.
Another report from Ynet said Egypt’s Intelligence Minister General Abbas Kamel called Netanyahu just 10 days before the Hamas attack, warning that militants in Gaza were planning “something unusual, a terrible operation.”
The office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly denied the reports, calling them fake news. “No early message came from Egypt and the prime minister did not speak or meet with the intelligence chief since the establishment of the government — not indirectly or directly. This is completely fake news,” the office said.
The Hamas operation has raised questions about how Israel could have been taken so off guard and not known about such a large attack. Hamas launched the attack from Gaza, which has been under Israeli blockade since 2007 and is constantly under surveillance.
This article, as seems typical from this site’s reporting in recent days, implies that somehow not being able to decipher signals-intelligence, one of the most notoriously difficult and challenging aspects of counterterrorism operations, makes Hamas’s attack and Israel’s justified self-defense security measures against this group somehow the fault of the central government in Tel Aviv.
I have only this to say:
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Images u say, self defense u say
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Okay, why would the Israeli military target areas that could cause civilian casualties? Perhaps the non-representative (barely half of the population of Gaza supported a statement of attacking Israel) illegitimate Hamas terrorist organization hides its weapons, equipment and personnel in civilian infrastructure oftentimes through either coercion or without consent in order to influence the media and the general world. Israeli governmental policy toward “Palestinian Resistance” has taken every possible step toward “reconciliation” and general de-escalation, with Israeli security forces even pulling out of Gaza, granting the region effective self-government, their ostensible goal, yet terrorist attacks and calls for genocide from these organizations did not cease. Israeli Security Forces routinely allow children hoping for “martyrdom” to attack their tanks and personnel, strikes against known terrorists use special forces instead of explosives for fear of civilian casualties, something that results in far more military casualties, yet this muted response wouldn’t qualify as self-defense? If killing were truly the reasons for this conflict, wouldn’t the conflict cease when Hamas became the de-facto government in Gaza and gained controlled of the entire territory of Gaza without an Israeli Security presence? Additionally, citing Al-Jazeera as a legitimate and insightful news organization is not particularly creditable, as they been documented numerous times being notoriously biased on this particular issue.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/
@ Mirrors Edge: Zionists have been driving out and oppressing Arabs (Palestinians) since Nakba in 1948. Their goal is to annex and religiously-ethnically cleanse the ‘west bank’. Israel is an apartheidstate. 36,935 à 53,389 Palestinians have been killed in the process (source: wikipedia). Zionist negotiations with Palestinians were and are a means to that end, a means to make time pass while continuing realizing their goals. Here is a famous map:
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Since its acknowledged the state of Israel was founded in 1948, half of your map is misleading, as of course the state of Israel wouldn’t “control” those areas. So the only real claim this map makes is that a minute amount of Israeli’s choosing to live in areas where hostile, violent and genocidal terrorist organizations organize hatred toward them (yes, I am aware some Israeli’s have attacked “Palestinians”, this does not indict the state of Israel the same way Charles Manson’s existence does not indict the United States, especially as the IDF in an extraordinary move has stationed valuable military assets to deescalate tensions), thus somehow fragmenting “Palestinian-land”? For the sake of exercise though let’s forget the facts and run with this “apartheid” reality of Israel for a second: 60 years ago the U.S. had major political parties who supported keeping certain people from voting and wanted them to live in specified areas, would you be okay if your parents or grandparents were genocided in an indiscriminate terrorist attack and as such you simply stopped existing? Even if these unsupported accusations were true, a political system possibly disenfranchising individuals never merits indiscriminate killing against any group, and any attempts to legitimize terrorism and attempted genocide as political resistance are false and need to be treated with the scorn and derision they deserve.
No, they were not “hostile &c. organizations”, they were the people who inhabited the land, and did not want zionists to drive them away.
Bro this is antiwar.com. u can’t make …. up and people fall for it. Westbank and Gaza BOTH ARE part of Palestinian territory and Israel stealing land daily and alongside regular settler violence(the latest example coming to mind a settler killing a Palestinian and his punishment is 3 moth banished from west bank) including breaching al aqsa and beating up unarmed elderly within the mosque is what led upto this.
Hamas AGREED to abide by deals made by various Palestine Israeli teams. Arabs and Iran gave offered recognition if Israel agrees to a 2 state solution and go back to pre 66 border. We don’t have peace not because of Palestinian intransigence but because of Israel keep carrying out annexation
While there have been isolated instances of “settler” communities attacking “Palestinians”, the Israeli Defense Forces almost always intervenes to de-escalate tensions, and how can the actions of non state-sanctioned individuals be an indictment against the state of Israel when the actual “Palestinian” pseudo-governments openly call for the genocide of the Jewish people and commit, fund, and support violent acts of terrorism to further this goal while conveniently not being counted as “settler violence” (Are they not trying to obtain land they don’t have? Are they not using violence and terrorism to attempt to achieve these goals?)? Furthermore, I have a feeling that the story you mention of the “banished” settler may contain more context that would not have been mentioned (e.g. who initiated the conflict? Was this individual acting in self-defense or to reasonably protect his life or others?). As to the claims you make about “Palestine”, minor political disputes can be settled without large scale atrocities and deaths of innocent civilians, and any movements that attempt to use these tactics for their political goals and policies immediately cease to be legitimate political entities.
Yep all about context when Israeli settlers keep taking land in post 66 border land that doesn’t belong to them-think of the context They kill people-think of the context they suffer no punishment -think of the context Israeli idf stands by while aiding settler pogrom- think of the context. Israel clearing their troops from the surroundings of gaza to help aid and abetting land theft by settlers in west bank think of the..get rid of Netanyahu
I never disputed that there may be isolated instances of violence by private Israeli citizens, I have simply been stating that Israel has a legitimate right to self-defense against terrorism and acts of genocide. Furthermore, the IDF does actually side against and condemn Israeli “settlers” when the situation actually warrants it, something you imply does not occur: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/middleeast/idf-settler-revenge-attacks-west-bank-intl/index.html. While I would not agree with Benjamin Nehtanyahu on a political level for actions such as the “judicial reform”, he is Israel’s democratically elected leader (yes, I am aware “Gaza” does not vote for him, that is due to political circumstances outside of the state of Israel’s control). Supporting justified self-defense against terrorism and acts of genocide is a moderate common-sense opinion and should be treated as such.
Yes dropped the entire load of bombs us used in Afghanistan in a year within a couple of days in the most densely populated landmass and cutting of water electricity is justified self defense. 724 kids were hiding hamas within their body and they asked for it because they people voted for hamas.
Oh they resumed water supply!!! No electricity for the pumps to get that water and no process to bring said water from specific place to bombed out Gaza is a disgusting ruse.
Hospitals r being told to close so their seriously injured patients die. Israel making millions leave in 24 hours while bombing the safe route they themselves said was safe.
Hospital director refuses to close hospital bomb his house and bury his family, target ambulances wipe out reporters with their entire family that is what the the terrorist state is up to, to carry out genocide against the “human animal”
Yes al Jazeera is bad but CNN with all committed zionist like taper bash and wolf boy is all for truth and integrity. Ofcourse u would say it because u r outright lying, because everyone knows it’s a policy of Israel to keep annexing Territory in west bank and settler violence is one of the used tools.
Yes Palestinians will not go down to the slow extermination of their people as al kasam said they will win or die standing. I m glad u agree justifying self defense when facing genocide although unlike u I condemn killing of children no matter the circumstances and will condemn it if hamas actually killed kids.( never saw any evidence aside from ai generated images ) unlike u who is fine with it but since u r a supporter of a genocidal state that is not surprising.
The amount of military resources Israel might use or be using in its justified self-defense counter-terrorism and anti-genocide operations has nothing to do with the morality of the operations, and they reserve every right to target infrastructure that could be housing Hamas weapons, personnel, and equipment after giving residents of the “Gaza” region ample warning and time to evacuate. You have not refuted or invalidated any of my points, and such I continue to remain free to have “certainty” in both the operations and conduct of the IDF. And no, I am not a supporter of a “genocidal state” nor have I ever not “ …[condemned] the killing of children” as the killing of children by Hamas has certainly been confirmed:
https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-ministers-shown-horrific-video-hamas-attack-2023-10-12/
Did you start watching the movie in the half way through ? Before Hamas engaging into this, state terror outfit IDF and the ISIS type gangster known as settler have been doing all those and some more for last 30 years .
While there have been isolated instances of “settler” communities attacking “Palestinians”, the Israeli Defense Forces almost always intervenes to de-escalate tensions, and how can the actions of non state-sanctioned individuals be an indictment against the state of Israel when the actual “Palestinian” pseudo-governments openly call for the genocide of the Jewish people and commit, fund, and support violent acts of terrorism to further this goal while conveniently not being counted as “settler violence” (Are they not trying to obtain land they don’t have? Are they not using violence and terrorism to attempt to achieve these goals?)? This is a false equivalency and is not true.
Maybe Egyptian intel will eventually report few masked individuals crossed from Israel into Gaza with cache of something, mysteriously not tipping off IDF or any security alarms. Or perhaps Egyptian intel will also report, the unity government a prime minister desperately needed, that he got because of a war on “terror.”
These guys often talk out their behinds so hardly would consider him a reliable source. One has to assume his listening comprehension was solid in the meeting and we’ve seen before a lot of these politicians often lack that.
Doesn’t Mikey have anything else to do…?
I think in this instance, he isn’t doing any favors for the side he is loyal to. It raises questions that Israel probably doesn’t want to hear.
It’s “Fake News” until it isn’t. But, we could never find out the truth–could we? The entire thing couldn’t have happened at a better time for Netanyahu. He was born for this genocide, …and probably the next one. (Sarcasm)
When Intelligence is involved, you never know who is telling the truth. But one of two things must be true – either Israeli Intelligence was asleep at the switch, or they did know and allowed it to happen for political reasons.
Those are two of several possibilities.
A third is that they knew something was afoot but weren’t able to figure out the full picture until too late.
Allegedly, Egyptian intell said the warning did not happen. Some have characterized mccaul as a useful idiot.
https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1/127590/Egyptian-official-source-denies-warning-Israel-of-attack-from-Gaza
In one of the said warnings, Egypt’s Intelligence Minister General Abbas Kamel personally called Netanyahu only 10 days before the massive attack that Gazans were likely to do “something unusual, a terrible operation,” according to the Ynet news site.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/
Did this guy deny making the call?
This denial from Egypt as reported by Egypt Today could be just to help Israel save its face and avoid charges of dereliction of duty.
911 warnings were plenty but were ignored everytime.
May be they should publish the phone log .
Yeh, niten denies it, may have pressured egypt to deny it but I’m not at all aware of the leverage niten might have on egypt.