Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky implied in an interview with The Economist that Ukrainian refugees in Europe might resort to terrorism if Western aid to Ukraine is curtailed.
The Economist report reads: “Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally ‘behaved well’ and are ‘very grateful’ to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a ‘good story’ for Europe if it were to ‘drive these people into a corner.'”
Zelensky also said in the interview, published on September 10, that anyone who is not supporting Ukraine is with Russia. “If you are not with Ukraine, you are with Russia, and if you are not with Russia, you are with Ukraine. And if partners do not help us, it means they will help Russia to win. That is it,” he said.
Despite Ukraine’s faltering counteroffensive, the Ukrainian leader said he was preparing for a long war and rejected the idea of diplomacy with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The report reads: “Tapping loudly on the table, Mr. Zelensky rejects outright the idea of compromise with Vladimir Putin. War will continue for ‘as long as Russia remains on Ukrainian territory,’ he says.”
While worried about sustaining support from the West for the long-term, Zelensky said he does not expect to lose US backing if former President Trump is elected in 2024. He said Trump would “never” support Putin. “That isn’t what strong Americans do,” he added.
The Biden administration seems happy to support an open-ended conflict and is looking to tie the hands of a future president by negotiating a deal with Ukraine for long-term military support. The US and other G7 nations vowed at the recent NATO summit in Vilnius to negotiate their own bilateral security deals with Ukraine.
We know Putin is an authoritarian, but the notion that Zelensky is the “good guy” in this war vis a vie Putin is becoming more untenable by the day.
Plus he’s plain stupid.
I think he just got some really bad advice.
How do you know that Putin is authoritarian? Because CNN told you so?
Authoritarian ruler or authoritarian regime is such a regime or ruler who can repeatedly breach the law of the country and get away with it. Can you give one example when Putin acted illegally? I can you give example of illegal activities of US rulers. Their breach of US constitution was exposed by Snowden. US authorities are persecuting not those who breached US constitution but only Snowden for exposing the criminal behavior of US authorities.
You wrote, “Authoritarian ruler or authoritarian regime is such a regime or ruler who can repeatedly breach the law of the country and get away with it.”
This is such a narrow definition of authoritarianism that it renders the concept meaningless. As a matter of “legality” Hitler operated within the law, so did Mussolini, and Stalin for that matter. That Putin operates “within the law” tells us nothing about the nature of the regime.
A better definition is a centralized political system with strong governmental control of the political process and the economy, and a truncation of basic human rights like full ownership and control of property as well as free speech rights.
While not a totalitarian, as Putin cannot operate with complete impunity, he has significant control of the economy, and the apparatus of information. This allows him to reward and punish those who support or oppose him personally. The career arc and elimination of Yevgeny Prigozhin serves as an excellent example of this. That all of this activity is ”legal” does not make it any less authoritarian. One need not consult CNN to see the corroboration of this reality.
Of course the US acts in a similar way, and this authoritarian control is growing in the US. I have consistently derided the US government for its growing use of such tactics and the perpetuation of the empire. Your attempt at “gotcha” falls flat. The point of my comment was simply to point out that Zelensky is as odious a character as any on the world stage today.
Hitler and Mussolini were appointed dictators legal way in their fascist states with their personal power above any other law. Putin was elected as president and is acting within the laws which was made in Yeltsin time. There were some changes of laws and Constitution in Putin time but it was done democratic way. Some of those laws reduced the power of President in favor of Parliament.
Your suggestion that Putin is somehow involved in the murder of Prigozhin and Utkin has no factual base. It is just a wishful thinking. You see Putin and Russia through the prism of American Russo-phobic propaganda.
You are focusing too much on “legal” rather than the nature of the regime. That the Russian constitution has granted Putin his powers is beside the point. It is the nature of the powers. Putin has control of the commanding heights of the Russian economy and uses it to enrich himself and his cronies and punish his enemies.
Whether it comes to pass that there is proof of Putin murdering Prigozhin it cannot be gainsaid that Putin made him wealthy via state contracts that Putin himself controlled, this becoming a good example of my point.
You somehow think that because you are opposed to the US led proxy war in Ukraine (as I have been from the start) that this makes Putin some sort of good guy. The base fact about all international affairs is that every actor on the world stage is a moral pig to one degree or another, and every one of those moral pigs runs an inherently criminal enterprise. It is best for all reasonable people to stay out of the pigpen.
“Putin has control of the commanding heights of Russian economy and uses it to enrich himself” – second half of this your statement is a 100% lie. I didn’t bothered to read further; too much of nonsense.
Yeah, Putin’s mired in poverty. Averting your eyes is not a counter argument-so I will conclude you have no counter. Peace to you in your ignorance.
Where are your arguments? Maybe you know where Putin is keeping his wealth? You are just repeating the silly propaganda. Maybe it is good for Americans but for me it is not interesting at all.
Here is one article documenting Putin’s wealth: https://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/vladimir-putins-wealth-from-a-1-4-billion-mansion-and-700-cars-to-58-aircraft-heres-a-look-at-the-most-expensive-things-owned-by-the-russian-politician/3166536/
I am certain you will dismiss it as western propaganda, as it is clear you are little more than an apologist for the Russian regime. Let’s see how much of an apologist you are:
Do you morally condemn Russia’s invasion as a crime against humanity due to the slaughter of innocents? Please do not conflate moral justification with provocation ( I grant Russia was provoked).
Yet, as a supporter of this site I am antiwar. To be anti war means opposing war regardless of who prosecutes that war. So, are you antiwar or not?
No, Putin’s not “poor”. But has he personally enriched himself over his very long career to the same extent that corrupt politicians like the Bidens, Clintons. Bushes, Cheneys and Obamas have, in a much, much shorter time in office? I think not.
Communists in Russia do not like him. The system is very different now. I have read that many in Russia want the old way of free education and free medical, and a pension.
Well if Putin is enriching himself he dosen`t seem to be enjoying the riches dose he , lets face how much money does anyone need to have a happy life ? , take a good look at most billion heirs they look as miserable as the day is long .
You are very uninformed about Russia’s politicsl system. Constitution, its bodies, Russia’s organization and authority of republucs —I can go in. But it is pointless. If you think that Putin can affect property ownership – I guess there is little we can talk about. Centraluzed piwer? Are you kidding? Russia has over eighty administrative units and over 20 of them have a status of a republic, Thise have a substantilal autonomy, unlike US states that merely act as a distrubutor of federal funds and have luttle to no authority outside federal government controls. Can our states declare another language ifficial in adfition to English? They cannot. In Russia every entity with s large (not necessarily majority) population with different language. Example ard Crimean Tatars that finally have the chance to gobto Tatarstan, use their own language as official, go to University in their languagee, and find jobs in this highly industrialized Republic. Budhisnm and Shamanism are official religions in number if states, etc dtc. And give any example of “human rights” abridging? But please do not nention pekple whio made money through shady business and claim to be Putin’s victim.
It is interestining how people feel free to draw conclusions about other countries without knowing almost anything about it. Or perhaps I should say it differently. People trust nedia and believe what is published, snd thst cinstitute the bidy of knowkedge, We had plenty of opportunity to witness media biases and outright lies, How can we then selectively decide that when it comes to Russia or China or other targeted countries — they are suddenly tellung the truth?
“unlike US states that merely act as a distrubutor of federal funds and
have luttle to no authority outside federal government controls”
And you call someone else “uninformed” about political systems?
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I can’t speak to what you said about Putin because I simply don’t know anything about that. But as an American, I agree with what you said about the stuff with our hypocritical leaders.
The image of “authoritarian Putin” is well established in the minds of western public, probably, also because Putin’s decisions are not much questioned in Russian parliament. It happens because pro-Putin party is keeping majority all those years. Besides, what does concern the foreign policy, on the most important issues there is a consensus. More than 10 years, anti-Putin politicians can’t get into parliament because they can’t get enough of votes. That’s how the democracy should work. In The West it is usually other way around. For example, Italian Prime Minister Meloni. Her activity as Prime Minister absolutely contradicts her rhetoric of election campaign times. How such politician can enjoy the respect of people? The same about Macron and the others.
“More than 10 years, anti-Putin politicians can’t get into parliament because they can’t get enough of votes.”
True.
Of course, when being an anti-Putin politicians means being barred from the ballot, or imprisoned, or having one’s party’s rallies outlawed and suppressed, or even, in a couple of cases, having Putin’s party get candidates to change their names to your name to split the vote for you, “can’t get enough of votes” is a natural outcome.
And no, I’m not pretending that the US regime doesn’t have parallel structures for ensuring its own “popularity” by making opposition some combination of impossible/improbable/dangerous/unseen.
The paradox is that on closer examination, none of the “being an anti-Putin politicians means being barred from the ballot, or imprisoned, or having one’s party’s rallies outlawed and suppressed, or even, in a couple of cases, having Putin’s party get candidates to change their names to your name to split the vote for you, “can’t get enough of votes” is a natural outcome” nonsense holds water, even if just for the reason that Russia’s president always had substantially more than enough votes required for him to win.
Yes, once he’s barred his opponents from the ballot and imprisoned them and anyone who dares publicly support them, he’s had more than enough votes to win.
What does concern Russia, you are terribly detached from the reality. I suspect, most congressmen have about the same level of knowledge. That is the reason why US foreign policy is such as it is. Corruption, ignorance and chauvinism don’t allow US to act rationally on foreign policy.
In reality, it is vice versa. Russia has a very robust Prosecution Service which doesn’t need stimulation when it comes to Russia’s billionaires. Russia’s president only has to interfere with their work if he can think of excellent reasons NOT to prosecute someone, and even then, he would not be in a position to give orders without sound justification. Giving orders is not Russia’s presidential style anyway. Strictly factual and intelligent persuasion is.
In any case, you are most likely referring to Navalny, who most people familiar with his never-ending pseudo-political shenanigans view as a power-hungry robber baron. He was imprisoned for humanitarian reasons after becoming a target of Western intelligence agencies via attempts on his life for propaganda purposes. The CIA and MI6 labelled him a Russian nationalist, making him more valuable dead than alive to certain political classes. Despite his questionable record, he was tolerated for too long, and his not-entirely political actions were never beneficial to anybody, himself including.
I’m referring to every significant opponent he’s had since 2000.
I am sorry you cannot see what lies beneath the reports you base your entirely baseless views on. Russia’s president had no significant opponents since 2000 anyway. Only strangely twisted adversaries with no substance or political skills to speak of whatsoever.
Most significant Putin’s opponents in presidential elections, all those years, were Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky. None of them, in the last 20 years, ever got 20% while Putin never was less than 50%. The pro-western candidates were below 10%.
You are repeating Russo-phobic lies. Anyone with minimum understanding about Russian realities can tell you that, unlike US, in Russia all presidential candidates have equal access to main TV channels. The fact is, the pro-American candidates lost Russian people’s support already by late 1990th. Even before Putin became Prime Minister, the pro-western parties had less than 10% of votes. By 2010 all of them struggled to get 5%. In the regional parliaments, some of them still have a representation but they lost it on federal level. The reason is: pro-American policy discredited itself in the eyes of Russian people. Communist party and Zhirinovsky’s LDPR are okay; they have around 10% each. Also Mironov’s SR is somewhat between 5% and 8%. All of those parties, though in opposition, are not pro-western.
Sounds like some of the efforts against Trump.
Yeah sure, Navalny comes to mind.
You mean our own so-called leaders are not authoritarian?
Of course they are, but the discussion was not about US authoritarianism.
But if they’re all authoritarian than the term has no meaning.
I would disagree. The state is an authoritarian institution by definition. It is coercive, violent and about the maintenance and exercise of power. The greater the size of the state the greater the power, the more authoritarian it is.
While the US is hardly at the level of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, it continues to travel further down this path. It is a government (at all levels) that soaks up 50% of the national income, has deeply intertwined itself with the financial system and exercises an increasing amount of censorship by proxy by threatening the media. Then there is, of course the US empire and violence as the #1 US export.
So I would conclude that the term does have meaning and that the US, sadly fits this definition to an increasing degree. Peace.
Fine, if not meaning then it has no substance.
It’s a BIG so what…
That’s not a bad idea. As long as it’s real kind of freedom-fighting initiative aimed directly at Anglo-American imperial parasites. It would be nice to see war brought to these pests.
“Those are some nice countries ya got there in Western Europe. It would sure be a shame if you didn’t treat your freeloading guests in the manner they’ve come to expect.”
He’s running out of teenagers and geriatrics to conscript and has been trying to get the men who escaped back into the meat grinder.
This oblique threat encourages countries to expel refugee draft dodgers.
The end goal is depopulation.
Don’t worry, the leaders of Western Europe anticipated this move long ago. Ukrainian refugees can’t ruin Western European nations, because they are already shitholes thanks to many years of mass migration prior to 2022. That’s some 4D level chess right there
So you are blaming brown and black people for the state of Western Europe?
Enough with this racist babble.
Well here in Britain we have tens of thousand of ILLEGAL MIGRANTS free loading on British tax payers and it`s been like that for decades , you don`t see many white people crossing the channel in boats do you ?.
Maybe if the British taxpayers put as much energy into no longer paying as people like you put into bellyaching that someone with TEH WRONG SKIN KULLER is traveling WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION, it wouldn’t be such a problem.
But it isn’t a person with TEH WRONG SKIN Kuller… It’s EVERYBODY and all at the same time.
It’s a small island after all.
I hear the Disney tune……………………….
Gang Rape was a crime which was virtually unknown in Germany before 2015, now I read about it about once a month. …and no it was not Helmut & Fritz from down the road.
So what happened in Germany in 2015 that made cultivating a moral panic over “Gang Rape” useful to whoever’s cultivating it?
Black and brown people were legally immigrating to Europe for decades without any issues.
It was only when the Western Europe opened up the floodgates to anyone who could hop on a boat during the 2010’s that things took a turn for the worse (and NATO started overthrowing governments in Africa and the Middle East in earnest.)
We let in 13,000. Not so refugees from other countries. One newscaster said the those from Ukraine “look like us”. Nothing racist in that remark. /s
So now this bum is threatening terror As in BLACKMAIL…??????
CUT HIM OFF….!!!!!!!
Only if you believe the BS article which you do obviously because it lines up with your narrative.
I’ve had the displeasure of meeting Ukrainian guys living for free in Western Europe, easily recognizable by the flat back of their heads. They run away from doing military service, while at the same time bragging about how their country is going to win and they fight better than anyone.
So on one hand they won’t fight, but at the same time they use the fighting done by others to brag about how good they are at fighting.
And no one can say anything, because Ukrainians are now as sacred as any other of the Left’s “protected groups”. The Social Democrat parties are salivating at the mouth of having these as their voters. “We’re like Biden, while those right-wingers question giving you more free money!”
More racist babble. Blaming the left because you want to be racist against minorities.
You racist SOB. Let me guess, you too support the invasion and annexation of Ukraine.
The flat head is associated to a culture of keeping their newly born babies sleeping on their backs for long periods of time at the age when their skull is still soft. Now a days, doctors recommend that you flip your babies from side to side to avoid this said deformation. It has nothing to do with Ukraine but more to an Eastern Europe including Russia old habits. I’d like to see your skull, bet it looks like a pumpkin.
You cannot judge Ukrainians living abroad, they all have different situations. Some chose not to fight for whatever their personal reasons are but many are working and helping Ukraine through remittances and other means.
BTW, didn’t a bunch of Russians leave and are still leaving Russia?
You are clearly a bigot and racist along with the ones liking your f d up comment.
I’ve seen plenty of videos of healthy young Ukrainian males in Europe being obnoxiously patriotic for Ukraine. It is not racist to wonder why such patriotism isn’t expressed on the battle lines of Ukraine rather than in a cafe or bar deep in the safety of Europe. Why did these “patriots” run for the exits of Ukraine when the war started rather than to the recruiting office? Perhaps it is because they are cowards? Happy to see others die for a cause they aren’t willing to risk their lives for? If they only support their country with their mouths, why should anyone else give a damn about Ukraine?
First month, or maybe even longer, Ukrainian men were queuing to the recruiting offices. It looks, most of them are dead or crippled by now. Last months they are hiding where they can. My congratulations to those who escaped from Ukraine. They are free to have their opinion about the war (the same as the rest of us).
Racists defend each other and nothing is racist to them.
Weak response. Ukraine needs better trolls than you. Ask your controller in Kiev to reassign you to latrine patrol and replace you with a more capable individual.
No, i like it here plus i get a bonus if i call propagandists like you idiots.
I bet Don Julio is one of these types of individuals (read chicken hawk), and that is why they have reacted so poorly.
Shades of the Mujahedeen… We used to help them too y’know.
Too funny. I expect the majority of Ukrainians in western Europe are only too happy to be out of that corrupt hellhole and have no intention of ever going back, regardless of how the war turns out.
Totally agree … unless they are forced to, very few will go back. Looking at Ukraine’s demographic trends, it is not just a failing country; it is dying.
Stillborn, actually.
The Jews call that chutzpah.
Well that is a lot of bullshit. If you are against both sides then what does That make you? Both sides are acting in a most “un-Christian” fashion, for two nominally “Christian” nations. Everyone thinks God is on their side. But guess what? God doesn’t pick sides in wars. contrary to popular belief. You’ve all sinned. Go and beg off those willing to encourage wars, but please leave the sane portion of humanity in peace. And if you are cheerleading Mr Z from the safety of your US armchair, go fight for him yourselves, if you want to “help” him so badly.
To quote Blondie in “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly” : “God’s not on our side because he hates idiots, also.”
Yep. Extortion. Called it.
“If you are not with Ukraine, you are with Russia, and if you are not with Russia, you are with Ukraine. And if partners do not help us, it means they will help Russia to win. That is it,” he said.
It’s hard to distinguish between Zelensky and George W. Or some of the people who post comments here.
damnit i just made almost the exact comment.
In contrast, is not hard to distinguish between you and the vast majority of posters here.
So, you find it easy to distinguish the difference between us? Thank you.
I dont represent the vast majority here. Im the minority. I dont support Russia.
I wasn’t talking about “us” as in you and me. Read what you wrote:
In contrast, is not hard to distinguish between you and the vast majority of posters here.
That is what I replied to. Now, did you get my meaning? Probably not. Man, you are dense.
However you read it, Special boy.
“hard to distinguish between Zelensky and George W. Or some of the people who post comments here.
Yep –
Bush – “Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”
Which in the US became ‘Sadaam lover’ if you questioned Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld’s lying pretext for invasion – that Iraq had WMD’s.
Now it’s ‘Putin lover’ to shut up political speech.
“If you are not with Ukraine, you are with Russia, and if you are not with Russia, you are with Ukraine.”
right then. put 2 of them in a line-up and try to discern which is which.
one guy’s name is Vladimere and other Volodymere.
but they are mortal enemies.
same with Nigers and Nigerians.
one guy’s name is Clickety-Boop and other is Boopity-Click.
again; mortal enemies.
but you should certainly choose sides and send one of them your money.
Some clever parsing with words there.
I was banned for life from European social media because I dared remark on the destructiveness of Ukrainian society. As a European who has supported European integration for the last 60 years, I feel great pain at how Ukrainian fascism in the service of US imperialism is allowed to destroy Europe.
Either we escalate to WW3 and erase Europe from the map in a nuclear holocaust in order to avoid a Ukrainian defeat (which was always inevitable), or Ukrainian nationalists will use the weapons supplied by Nato to wage a terror campaign against Europe. Even if we avoid nuclear annihilation, Europe will be reduced to 3rd world status and utter poverty because our American overlords require us to cut our economies from the resources, markets and innovation of the world so that the US can suck the last blood out of the old continent as the last remaining bastion of the Yankee empire.
“Ukrainian nationalists will use the weapons supplied by NATO to wage a terror campaign against Europe” only in case if US authorities will order this and pay for this. Zelensky definitely will never finance the terrorism from his own pocket. Ukrainian state budget is filled by US and EU.
Are you then of the opinion that US authorities ordered the 9/11 attacks. The US creates these Frankenstein monsters (Jihadism in the ME, N/zis in Ukrkaine, etc.) in order to pursue its geopolitical aims; however, it is the nature of monsters to turn against their creator sooner or later, especially when it stops to feed the monster generously enough. That is clearly the message Zelensky conveys.
I have no clue who ordered 9/11. One thing is clear: US authorities allowed it to happen.
Kiev regime and US want EU countries to send Ukrainian refugees back to Ukraine because they are short of soldiers. I don’t think, ideological neo-Nazis ever migrated from Ukraine. Most Ukrainian refugees in Europe are normal people, though many of them are quite brainwashed. At the moment, it is only Poland who is sending Ukrainians back to Ukraine. Austria, Hungary, Czechia and even Germany refused to do it.
He is trying to motivate EU governments to send Ukrainian refugees back to Ukraine. At the moment, the safest place for Ukrainian refugees is Russia. Any Ukrainian passport holder can travel without visa from EU to Russia, for example, over Armenia.
Oh yes, wait for the mass exodus as Ukrainians clearly love Russia.
18 million Ukrainians fled to Russia, actually
You know what, it’s easier to call you stupid.
Not even the Kremlin would say that. Do some research before you type
Bite the hand that feeds you?
Sounds like a mafia style threat
So the NAZI Zelenskey is threatening Europe and whats even worse the European morons will do nothing .
Well, he’s consistent. The only thing that matters to Z is territory. He doesn’t care how many of his own soldiers have to die to get it. Now he’s throwing Ukrainian refugees under the bus, and also demanding the return of male refugees who would otherwise be eligible for military service.
“The only thing that matters to Z is territory.”
I am pleased somebody else noticed this. Never have I heard Z lament that Ukraine needs to recover *Ukrainians* now under Russian Federation jurisdiction.
It’s almost as if Zel. et. al. would prefer just the land back. Cleansed of undesirables.
This is a cheap shot article headline with the ‘imply’ to fuel the anti Ukraine base here but It’s ok, it’s the beauty of free press we all enjoy in ‘Merica.
He is behaving like an entitled brat. He is convinced that he has the key power-brokers in this country.in his side, so he csn talk big and bad, These are not his words, These are the words of his handlers, Yet, money does not grow on trees and even his supporters, miney magicians that they are —- cannot in the light of this country’s debt continue spending on Ukrsine, paying their retirement paychecks whike delaying them in France and by devaluing money received through runaway inflation,
And we are told ut is all OK, for as ling as some more borrowing happens, But it won’t, Japan just announced end of money available to borrowers. With over 250 percent GDP to debt ratio, Japan is done being creditorx
So Zelenski is comng to be told some truths, Threatening terrorism is outrageous. He is jusy giving ideas to nuts.
However, truth everyone knows is -/ he is the mist hated man in Ukraine. Without elections., he has no credibility. Soldiers are deserting, His mycking around with relugious nayters shows arrogance of a person who believes is invincible.
US has to remove him. And let elections come up with a new team that will negotiate.
Yes, ther arr many in this country that brlieve avrelative died and left them Ukraine in inheritannce, Those are obsessed, Obsessed with Russia. Time to fold them, as world has spoken clearly. Budrn calls it a win, but G-20 refused to condemn Russia or mention Ukraine, Just a generic agreed upon principle that no country should take ntertitory by force, Big win! Rusdia did nit take terfotory, but territory wiylth prople Ukraine dies not want, UN Charter, Article 1, Paragraph 2, And the moment he left Vietnam, Vietnam and China securities chiefs (read intellugence) met and signed a bunch of dealx.
The worldvis noving on — we are stuck with Ukraine and unhapotly Europeans. With Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Ethiopia and Argentina joining expanded BRICS+, die s cast,
Nobody cares about Ukraine. Business with Russia booming. And insudevRusdia optimism after numeriys deals taking over purchased businessex West stupidly abandoned, There is no way back.
Time Biden dies somethinv to take this albatross off his neck before election season kicks in earnest,
Send them all back to ukraine then, and let them fight their own war without any help.
Let’s go back to that War on Terror – starting with war on Zelensky.
“Zelensky Implies Ukrainian Refugees in Europe Will Resort to Terrorism If West Curtails Aid”
Good job making targets of the 90% Ukrainian women and children refugees in Poland – where most are – Ukrainian moms say ‘thank u mr prez fr getting my child taunted as ‘terrorist’ at school!’
And talk about timing – right when Polish support for Ukraine refugees is dropping –
“Poles less willing to help Ukrainian refugees: poll
“About 55% of Poles believe their country should not offer more help to Ukraine, a stark contrast to the 28% who believe more support can be given, according to poll results”
“Also, as much as 60% of Poles believe Ukrainian refugees should not be given equal access to social benefits as Polish people do possess, including a monthly child benefit. Only 18% are of a contrary opinion, compared to 28% between April and May last year.”
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/poles-less-willing-to-help-ukrainian-refugees-poll/
Okay, so if/when those Ukrainians start cranking up the terrorist acts does that mean the Ukraine goes on the list for State Sponsored Terrorism and when does the bombing begin?
Russia is making that list first.
On more then one occasion Biden pledged to have Zelenskys back, that was tens of thousands even hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians ago plus many others, If I was ZelenskyI would stop kissing Bidens butt and stand up like a man and admit my mistakes, stop the killing, make a deal with Russia, save your country.