In an interview with renowned reporter Seymour Hersh, a US intelligence official scolded the media for misleading the American public about Ukraine’s battlefield failures during the Spring counteroffensive. The unnamed official additionally told Hersh he believes that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the assassination of PMC Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin to deescalate tensions with NATO.
Responding to reports in recent weeks that Ukrainian forces were gaining momentum and recapturing territory, the official remarked, “Where are the reporters getting this stuff?” he asked. “There are stories talking about drunk Russian commanders while the Ukrainians are penetrating the three lines of Russian defense and will be able to work back to Mariupol.”
He continued, “The goal of Russia’s first line of defense was not to stop the Ukrainian offense, but to slow it down so if there was a Ukrainian advance, Russian commanders could bring in reserves to fortify the line.” The official added, “There is no evidence that Ukrainian forces have gotten past the first line. The American press is doing anything but honest reporting on the failure thus far of the offense.”
Secretary of State Antony Blinken delivered a similarly optimistic message during his trip to Kyiv on Wednesday. “In the ongoing counteroffensive, progress has accelerated in the past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain it and build further momentum,” he said at a press conference.
The official says that message is being delivered from military intelligence to the White House, while the CIA has drawn other conclusions. “This kind of reporting from the military intelligence community is going to the White House. There are other views,” he said, referring to the CIA. The official explained those views do not reach President Joe Biden.
For over three months, Kyiv has ordered its forces to advance on entrench Russian defensive lines in southern Ukraine. Russian minefields caused Ukraine to lose a significant portion of its Western-trained soldiers and equipment in the opening weeks of the offensive. The massive push by Ukraine resulted in nearly no territorial gains.
Still, Washington has pushed Kyiv to continue the counteroffensive. The White House acknowledges that for Ukraine to have a possibility of success, Kyiv will have to be willing to sustain high casualties.
The official told Hersh no matter how committed Kyiv is to the war effort, President Zelensky’s goals are unattainable. “Zelensky will never get his land back,” he said.
The official also spoke about the assassination of Prigozhin last month. He believes that Putin ordered the killing because the mercenary boss had begun to provoke NATO members. “By early August, there were reports of border tensions as the remnant of the Wagner Group made a series of intrusions into the airspace of Poland, and troublesome threats at the borders of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland,” Hersh writes, “For Putin, triggering complaints from NATO countries was an unforgivable breach. ‘That was it,’ a knowledgeable US intelligence official told me.”
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
Lawrence describes the msm, worth reading the entire piece. And I’m grateful Hersh is still around:
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/04/patrick-lawrence-bad-faith-blank-checks/
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All mainstream journalism is “embedded journalism” now, for the battlefield is everywhere, writes Patrick Lawrence in this excerpt from his new book, Journalists and Their Shadows
….in journalism today we have a remarkably prevalent case of Jean-Paul Sartre’s mauvaise foi. Bad faith, in terms I hope are not too simplified, comes down to pretending to be someone or something other than oneself. It means surrendering authenticity..
This is the American journalist as he or she has come to be, a journalist-for-others. The less he genuinely serves as a journalist — a journalist-for-itself — the more he must hold to the accepted image of the journalist. He is “the man without a shadow,” as Carl Jung put it in another context. Having become another of society’s “de-individualized persons” — Jung again — the journalist role-plays now, in psychotherapeutic terms. Newspapers, in the same way, are at bottom reënactments of newspapers.
I am also grateful Hersh is around, but more importantly how sharp and articulate. However, I wonder how his family feels about having him around at Thanksgiving dinners? Did they set a boundary, “NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES” Grandpa!? He says, “I’m telling you the TRUTH.” They respond, “Sure you are!” Of course, that’s only if he’s allowed to attend in the first place. (Sarcasm)
Maybe his family is more enlightened than most?
I hope but doubt it. I would say less than 1% chance. Any of your family or friends are totally receptive to your “maniacally extreme” Antiwar views? Not sensing any hypocrisy or exceptionalism at all? …Yes. Great! Can I come over for Thanksgiving? …No? You don’t want a cynical old man at the table? LOL. I understand.(Old man sarcasm)
I tend to agree with you. Unless I was just really unlucky. I even have a Jesus freak sister who thinks Jesus is pro war (just Muslims mostly) and likes rich folk. You know, “the rich shall inherit the…”
LOL! Thanks for sharing. I’m blessed to have you in my life, Wars!
I suspect your sister is hopelessly wandering around in the Old Testament and ignores the New Testament teachings regarding peace. “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.”
She’s like most Christians I know. They use the old testament when needed. Leviticus comes to mind.
Hopefully, for his sake. But they are so few and far between.
I almost never initiate political discussions with family. But if they bring it up, I speak truth.
I hear that. No politics or religion. So, we talk about the weather.
Hey, it’s too phucking hot.
Or, we can talk about how Putin treats his allies?
https://twitter.com/region776/status/1700111079240778195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1700111079240778195%7Ctwgr%5E85cb658243190ebab733ec7255f4036c312a7b04%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F9%2F8%2F2192207%2F-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-plus-ATACMS-may-finally-be-heading-for-Ukraine
Sure, we could. How that would be relevant to my comment would be interesting though.
It wasn’t. I just took an opportunity to open another discussion.
About what? That Russia is a belligerent overgrown street gang (Thomas Knapp’s description)? I guess I haven’t made my point quite enough times. Not a fan of Russia or Putin. But that doesn’t change the 30 years of provocations by the biggest belligerent overgrown street gang, the US.
No. You have. I just made an opening for a discussion change after you implied families can’t talk about this stuff.
I have made strides with friends and family members by speaking the truth, and I keep forwarding articles to them from Antiwar.com and other good websites that have actually made many of them change their minds from the crap they get in the lamestream news media.
Good to know Mary. I get surprised looks when clearly I don’t pick a team and explain how invested both parties are in war.
Enjoy this clip from: Woody Harrelson on Twitter this morning from @MyLordBebo:
“It’s it’s abominable when a superpower with all this military might with no provocation attacks a country that is …Ira(q), …Aphgan(istan), …Viet(nam), …Korea, …no sorry, …Ukraine… (Chuckling) Terrible.”
NATO Chief: NATO Expansion Caused Russian Invasion
It’s the damnedest thing how you’re called a Kremlin agent for saying the war was provoked by NATO expansionism and it serves U.S. interests, even when NATO and U.S. officials openly admit the same thing, writes Caitlin Johnstone.
During a speech at the E.U. Parliament’s foreign affairs committee on Thursday, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg clearly and repeatedly acknowledged that Putin made the decision to invade Ukraine because of fears of NATO expansionism.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/09/nato-chief-nato-expansion-caused-russian-invasion/
Sad, sad Seymour. What a disgrace you’ve become. A total hack.
The US Official also told Seymour Hersh that the Russian offensive has destroyed 1.7 million Ukrainian soldiers, 52,897 Leopard tanks, and 32 F-16 while Russia has lost zero troops and equipment. He also said that Putin is doing better than ever and that he will be in Kyiv in 3 days.
Get a load of this fascist scum. He’s so disassociated from reality that he has to make up a fantasy to deflect from the fact that Ukraine in the 4th month of its offensive hasn’t made any significant progress. In fact it has at best reached the first line of defense and if we are being generous we could allow that they may have breached it in a few places (at least long enough to take a few selfies and scamper back to their bunkers before the artillery barrage begins).
Julio has to be the most ignorant person on this site. Wrong about 98.99999% of the time.
Or just an operative troll. But his predecessors were far more skilled during the Iraq war.
The fascist scum calling another one a fascist scum.
What a loser.
And what has your sh!t army of toilets and washing machine looters accomplished?
How embarrassing that the big bear can’t even secure the land it stole.
Your BS disinformation in this platform does not change the reality on the ground but, keep on cheering your team.
keep on cheering your team
The guy has called the US, Ukraine and Russia fascist scum in several of his comments. He doesn’t have a team. That would be you. Again.
“And what has your sh!t army of toilets and washing machine looters accomplished?”
My army? I’m from the USA. Ukraine is “my army” given that I am paying for it. You Ukrainians can’t pay for your own hardware and even pensions and salaries for your own people. You have to go like beggars to every country in the world asking for support.
Why don’t you let John Mearsheimer educate your propagandized mind:
https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose
You meant breaching the second line of defense, right?
https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Pryatykhatky%20and%20Robotyne%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20September%208%2C2023.png
That’s a nice map you have there but the they draw it to look like the first line of defense is to the north of Robotyne which according to every other map I have seen is not accurate. Have a look at this map here, for example:
https://deepstatemap.live/en"#11/47.4360/35.7550
You can toggle on fortifications in the lower left hand corner.
The Institute For the Study of War is a Kagan family creation (aka neocon fascist scum) so considering it an unbiased and/or accurate source is not recommended, but you do you.
Sure. You keep living in denial. Comforting, isn’t it?
So what were you predicting 4 months ago before the offensive? Who’s in denial?
It wasn’t from a Russian source that Hersh used so you have to belittle what he said somehow. You truly are a clown.
Eat a bag, you phony.
How am I phony? Is it like me saying Putin is a thug but I used to respect him? Oh wait, that would be you. Or pretend that I care so much for patriotic Ukrainians and yet I want them to continue a counteroffensive based on Hope and Courage? That would be you again. Nothing I say makes me a phony. Your thick skull just can’t let that fact sink in. Hey, I think the Dodgers are going to win the NL West this year. Does that make me a Dodger fan and a Dave Roberts fanboy?
“he believes that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the assassination of PMC Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin to deescalate tensions with NATO”
Oh these beliefs… This unnamed anonymous CIA agent must be very religious with strong, deep beliefs.
And I completely understand his frustration with the imperial propaganda machine. It makes it impossible for him to do any work. The toxicity of lies is like a stain that is very hard to wash off and it spreads onto everyone affiliated with liars. The Mockingbird Propaganda Machine, that the CIA have created have taken a life of its own, and now this monster harming interests of the very organization that created it. Too bad, so sad.
“The toxicity of lies is like a stain that is very hard to wash off and it spreads onto everyone affiliated with liars.” Nice description. I imagine it might be a $hit “stain” but with a more repugnant smell of rotting corpses from Ukraine? …I know. …It needs more work. I have a nagging feeling that I understated its repugnancy. (Sarcasm)
I don’t think Putin ordering his death is so farfetched. I don’t know if I agree with the reasoning though.
Me too. It looks to me like he was signaling (his dissonant behavior taken in aggregate), his eagerness to switch sides (for the right money, of course), and considered his popularity would shield him from Putin’s wrath.
I don’t think Prigozhin switched sides for the money. He was a billionaire already. I think the Americans promised to make him Russia’s new leader if he threw in with us and overthrew Putin and the other Kremlin leaders. When Prigozhin chickened out in the middle of his insurrection, he was no longer useful to the Americans. Killing him and blaming it on Putin was the last, best use of Prigozhin.
Excellent.
I don’t think Prigozhin switched sides at all. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was doing — trying to rescue Putin from the puppet masters, as represented by Shoigu, who forced an idiotic military misadventure on Russia.
It’s a good theory but it’s missing facts. Even if his motivation was strictly financial, Prigozhin is fully aware of what happens to CIA ‘assets’. Nemtsov was a CIA asset and his assassination was the last of that kind in Russia. No amount of money is worth it if you know that the CIA will kill you.
Besides, Prigozhin doesn’t seem like a type of person who will flip sides.
From the videos I have seen of Prigozhin spouting off, I think he had a huge ego and thought he should be the top dog in Russia.
Yeah that is the impression he wanted to project but he is a terrible actor.
Prigozhin was unbalanced.
I don’t believe that he is dead. Entire thing was a show.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wsmrMnJcy05h/
very unlikely this particular sin at the Poland border is heavier than the previous attack via a column of vehicles and shooting down aircraft . . .
Nuh it’s shoigu/gerashimov who did it without his approval and face no consequences because putin needs them now. Just like he needed kadirov hence no consequences for him killing nemsov close to Kremlin.
I think in the weird security state mindset, this is complimentary to Putin. In other words, he is being careful not to incite a hot war with mercenary cowboy tactics.
Everything in that sphere is tactical not humanistic.
On the other hand, the US could have assassinated him for their own reasons. This is just one guy’s opinion, but at least he brought forth truth about the misrepresentation of how the war is going in general.
Considering how the leader of the Proud Boys (sounds like it should be a gay strip club and not a milita) got over 20 years in jail for a riot that he didn’t attend, I am pretty sure Joe Biden would have assassinated anyone who tried what Prigozhin did.
Say what you want about his “coup” in Russia, but it was a lot bigger event than the Jan 6 riots that have terrified the MSM for the last two and a half years.
Yes, J6 wasn’t a riot. It was a protest. It didn’t and doesn’t terrify the Mockingbird Propaganda Machine (MPM) The reason these degenerates keep whining about it is to make the population fear the terrorist regime on Capitol ill. Same reason for sentencing of this Proud Boy. State terrorism. They want to make an example out of him to make others terrified. And the reason the terrorist state and MPM respond to mostly peaceful protest is because they fear the popular uprising most of all. An armed popular uprising.
What’s amazing is that the same Americans who deplore the J6 protest, applaud the Maidan coup in Ukraine. Senators John McCain and Chris Murphy cheered the mobs and coup leaders in Kiev. They deplore political violence at home, but they spread it abroad. Hypocrites.
While some of us Americans deplore both.
I think maybe the stiff Proud Boy sentences are more meant to be a message to Trump.
Bullshit. It turned into a riot. Maybe you watched Tucker’s edited version. That version was like showing 9/11 without the planes hitting the buildings.
That is the point. I don’t see any reasoning! No reasoning behind conflict and so-called “rebellion”. It was a staged show. If you think otherwise, give me some evidence that doesn’t fall apart under little scrutiny. Perhaps there are some facts that I’m missing in the Warner saga?
I definitely don’t think Putin is scared of NATO. I think, though, he’s rightfully concerned about the US using nuclear weapons after he finished kicking NATO’s sorry butt in a land war.
LOL, Russia can’t even defeat Ukraine. It stands no chance against NATO.
He doesn’t want a war in Eurasia but he defiantly not scared of it.
He believed Putin ordered the assassination ? , not to mention the state sponsored assassinations of many world leaders by the CIA .
So much truth in war,eh?
“The first casualty when war comes is truth.” –Hiram W Johnson. That’s not funny. What’s funny is they labeled him as “staunchly isolationist senator for California.” This was from a speech to the US Senate in 1917. He was speaking against US involvement in WWI, which created the instruction manual for US involvement in WWII and even now in WWIII. My antiwar knees buckle from lack of hope when I consider those words. (Sarcasm)
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Unable to access?
The MSM telling falsehoods? I’m shocked.
It’s called weapon sales. Have you ever met an honest salesman? I didn’t think so. It’s all about making that $GTA$
One-source reporting is always dangerous. But I can imagine that real Intel personnel would be quite unhappy with all the relentless propaganda from State and Admin neocons about endless success of our great democratic partners in Ukraine. For one thing, they’ll all be hauled in front of congress to explain why it all went south in about six months …
A good example; some paid for toad named Paul Roast has a long column reprinted today on msn.com; Mr. toast (I mean roast) has no military experience and has never been to the battlefield, but he assures his readers that the offensive is succeeding, actually, because it “was never meant to defeat Russia”, or actually “reach the sea of Azov”, just “convince the west that Ukraine is still fighting”.
No mention of losses, just “it’s tough going”, and the assurance that “it’s still too soon to judge”. So, into the fourth month, with most of Ukraine’s remaining forces still stuck in three small salients protruding into the security zone, and MAYBE (depending on who you believe) a small incursion, with a small infantry detachment only (no vehicles or supporting weapons), beyond the first defensive line into Verbove, this tool is calling it a “success”.
That is what Propaganda looks like; Joseph Goebbels would be proud. And the “best” part; msn.com has deactivated the “comments” feature; “because we can’t have anyone questioning our propaganda”.
Not only Liars; but Cowards.
come on, this is not plausible on Putin’s finally acting here, we need more than this
Shoigu wacked pridgozin without informing putin. Has been done before like kadirov killed nemsov without consequences. They even did it on the air the same way prig knocked off Russian air assets during their March to Moscow.
CIA killed Nemtsov. And it was a brilliantly planned and executed op, imo.
And why would they do that? If they had some groundwork done to launch a color revolution after the killing then and only then it makes sense otherwise it makes zero sense. NOTHING happened after the killing if Cia had some on the ground op going then the resulting outrage after the killing wouldn’t be so muted.
Yes. That was one of the reasons. There was a scheduled (Kremlin approved) protest a day before his assassination. It was his protest. Killing him on the eve of a massive anti-Putin protest should have enraged the population. Just massive propaganda coverage from MPM is enough evidence that it was a CIA op. Killing him few meters from Kremlin was also a signal to Putin. And the best part of that op, Kremlin can’t say it was CIA because it would expose their incompetence.
Russia is fun because it’s so Game of Thrones, and there is almost zero attempt at plausible deniability. Well, okay, there’s the attempt, but with plenty of winking and smirking.
Wow! Alice in Wonderland fantasies are nothing compared to these Mad Hatters! Let us see — Russia Russia assasinated Prigozhin out of fear that NATO could be provoked!
When Russia decided to start the war itvwas with the clear understanding that it is taking on US andvcollective West satrapy.,
But in the end such stories are nothing more but a carelessly spun edifice of lies. And like smooth talking Humpty Dumpty, once it crashes, it cannot be put back together again.
Crashing as we speak. The more lies and clever schemes they cum up with, the weaker they appear.
Like a high class Welfare grifter trying to look successful but in need of your financial assistance.
Yellow Journalism: based on sensationalism and crude exaggeration to boost circulation.
Winston Churchill: “In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.
Wrongheaded U.S. Leadership in Ukraine – Intel Roundtable Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern
These commentators are spot on i have followed them for years. Obama, Biden et al will go before war crimes tribunals for their many many crimes against humanity.
And not only Obama and Biden, they have lots of help.
“Obama, Biden et al will go before war crimes tribunals for their many many crimes against humanity.”
No, they won’t. They should, along with soooo many others, but they won’t.
Many in the U.S. are dumbdowned/indoctrinated to the point where they accept anything the media puts out.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/no_author/if-everyone-understood-that-the-us-deliberately-provoked-this-war/
The nation is really bonkers, the whole world knows that President Biden is demented, not of sound mind and he picked and appointed mentally challenged criminal elements to advise him.
No one knows who is really in charge. The MSM total silence. For million $$$ salaries the journalists, editors and pundits tell the nation any lie.
Then we have the old geezers in senate and congress, bipartisan male/female.
All do know Biden is the big elephant in the room, but no responsible person has the courage to say it out loud.
The senile old man is not fit to be president, insanity prevails in his administration.
The official mainstream narrative throughout the western world is that Putin invaded Ukraine solely because he is evil and hates freedom. That’s the actual, literal belief about this war that the western political/media class works to instill in the western public. Anyone who counters this self-evidently ridiculous assessment with facts and evidence gets branded a Russian agent and swarmed with pro-US trolls on social media, and loses all hope of securing a major platform in any mass media.
This from Caitlin’s article. Sounds like some people we know.
Woody Harrelson on Twitter this morning from @MyLordBebo:
“It’s it’s abominable when a superpower with all this military might with no provocation attacks a country that is …Ira(q), …Aphgan(istan), …Viet(nam), …Korea, …no sorry, …Ukraine… (Chuckling) Terrible.”
“The official explained those views do not reach President Joe Biden.”
We could have a GOP-led House investigation of:
What is the truth about Ukraine?
Does Biden know that?
Is someone in the White House suppressing the truth and lying to the President, or is the President lying to us?
This has a lot of potential, for the upcoming election.
Did you hear Blinken say a few weeks ago that Ukraine had recaptured 50% of the land the Russians had captured?
Hes probably close to the truth, if you look at the Kiev withdrawal, Kherson withdrawal and the Kharkiv withdrawal in total its about 50%.
That was before the counter-offensive, no?
Correct, Blinken was talking about prior to the Counter Offensive. Remember this NATO war started in 2014 and Blinkens statement gives that away. Blinken in this statement is telling us the war started prior to the SMO.
You should listen to interviews given by Col. Doug Macgregor, Scott Ritter, and the boys at The Duran to get another assessment of how things are going for Ukraine in the war.
Yes, let’s listen to Macgregor:
“The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over … If [Ukraine] don’t surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them.” — Colonel Douglas Macgregor, February, 2022
“The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over.” — Colonel Douglas Macgregor, March, 2022
“The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odesa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over.” — Colonel Douglas Macgregor, July, 2022
“The Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes.” — Colonel Douglas Macgregor, September, 2022.
Thanks for your insights, Thomas.
The war is going terribly for NATO, but that has nothing to do with whether Blinken was talking truth about the 50% recovery of territory. This is not a war of territory for Russia, its a war of attrition. The goals are to Demilitarise and DeNazify Ukraine. Both of these goals are being achieved.
I have not seen any change in the map of land controlled by the Russians in many months. The Russians are managing to defend the land they have taken in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Blinken saying that the Ukrainians have taken back 50% of the land the Russians conquered is absurd on its face. Listen to the discussion with John Mearsheimer, Glenn Diesen, and Alexander Mercouris to hear what they say about it.
You are correct there is no significant change in territory over the last few months, the so called “Counter Offensive” is a total failure.
Do not confuse Blinken’s statement as NATO success because without a doubt the objectives of the Russian SMO are being achieved.
Listen to this discussion if you think Blankin was close to the truth on Ukrainian gains.
https://youtu.be/hKNLRJHaI6E?feature=shared
President Biden running for reelection is an affront to the entire nation perpetrated by Biden and the political establishment and donor class.
To run a demented old man for reelection is an insult to say the least.
On Twitter this morning. Woody Harrelson:
“It’s it’s abominable when a superpower with all this military might with no provocation attacks a country that is …Ira(q), …Aphgan(istan), …Viet(nam), …Korea, …no sorry, …Ukraine… (Chuckling) Terrible.”
If Joe Biden was . . . . . . by Thanksgiving Day, would this same obscure official and another word salad president-in-waiting Kamala Harris blame Russia?
The official said he “believes” he did not say he knows to SH.
Another day for NATO in Ukraine 8th September……In 3 months NATO has lost 66 thousand servicemen (casualties) and 7,600 pieces of equipment.
In the Zaporozhye direction, the Russian Group of Forces repelled five attacks by NATO forces near Verbovoye. NATO forces lost 40 troops, one tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, two M777 towed howitzers, one British-made FH-70 towed howitzer, one Msta-B towed howitzer, one D-20 towed howitzer, one D-30 towed howitzer, one Akatsiya self-propelled howitzer, one BM-21 multiple rocket launchers and one Bukovel-AD system.
In the Donetsk direction, the Russian Yug Group of Forces repelled twelve attacks by NATO forces close to Avdeevka. NATO forces lost 215 troops, four mobile vehicles, two American-made M777 towed howitzers, one D-20 towed howitzer, one Rapira anti-tank gun and one Ukrainian-made Bukovel-AD anti-drone electronic warfare system.
In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian Zapad Group of Forces repelled four NATO attacks. NATO forces lost 100 troops, two armored fighting vehicles, two motor vehicles, one M777 towed and one Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer.
In the Krasny Liman direction, the Russian Tsentr Group of Forces repelled two attacks by NATO forces close to Chervonaya Dibrova. NATO forces lost 60 troops, 2 armored fighting vehicles and 2 motor vehicles.
In the South Donetsk direction, the Russian Vostok Group of Forces repelled an attack by NATO forces. NATO forces lost 190 troops, 3 armored fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles and one M777 towed howitzer.
In the Kherson direction, NATO forces lost 25 troops, two motor vehicles and two American-made M777 towed howitzers.
What’s your source?
Sounds like the Ukraine Military Summary channel?
Once again the Mainstream Media plays defense for “retarded Israel.” A bit more difficult that covering up the deaths of hundreds of Palenstinians killed for the crime of existing, but they are up for it!
Mislead: the polite English Word US media usually uses for Sheer Black Lies…!
“Hersh writes, ‘For Putin, triggering complaints from NATO countries was an unforgivable breach. ‘That was it,’ a knowledgeable US intelligence official told me.’”
So Putin assassinated P to defuse NATO border tensions over the remains of a more-or-less exiled and out-of-favor militia?
Much as I respect Hersch, can’t go along w/this one.
However “knowledgeable” the US intelligence official, this assertion re Putin’s supposed motivation is conjectural, and imo not really plausible:
if a ‘wing’ of the Kremlin, or of a political party, or even a journalistic proxy for Putin…even Russian bloggers…had warned that ‘Pr and the Wagners are gonna get Russia in trouble if they keep keep up border provocations, giving NATO an excuse to escalate’ – or if the idea appeared in an anonymously quoted US intelligence report on Pr’s death – it would support this interpretation.
But no such public or nonpublic political views are mentioned – so it sounds like a lone US source’s ascription of motive on the basis of little vs. more plausible explanations.