The US is set to arm Ukraine with controversial depleted uranium (DU) ammunition as part of an upcoming arms package for use with US-made Abrams tanks, Reuters reported on Friday.
DU is a heavy metal that’s a byproduct of enriched uranium and is extremely dense, making it a good material for armor-piercing rounds. But DU ammunition is toxic and is linked to cancer and birth defects in places it has been used, including Iraq, where the US used an enormous amount of DU in the Gulf War and the 2003 invasion.
The UK has already provided Ukraine with DU ammunition for use with British-made Challenger 2 tanks, but the US has yet to take the step. Earlier this year, when Russian President Vladimir Putin announced he was deploying nuclear weapons to Belarus, he said it was a response to the UK arming Ukraine with DU.
According to Reuters, the arms package for Ukraine that will include DU ammunition is expected to be announced this week. The first Abrams tanks are due to arrive in Ukraine in the coming weeks.
The Wall Street Journal reported in June that the Biden administration was expected to arm Ukraine with DU. The report said some officials were concerned the move would open up the US to criticism for providing weapons that could cause health and environmental damage.
But at this point in the war, the administration has shown it’s not concerned about damaging Ukraine’s environment. In July, the US started arming Ukraine with cluster bombs, which spread small submunitions over large areas. Unexploded submunitions, or bomblets, can be found by civilians years or decades after use. Because of their history of killing civilians, cluster munitions have been banned by over 100 countries.
Yeah, that ship sailed. The US government is showing its real face.
It showed it’s true face bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail in the 60’s early 70’s killing tens of thousands of innocent children. It’s been on display since.
But now they don’t care that everybody knows.
and there’s the rub right there
Good to see you back my man.
He never left.
i had a little tantrum for a minute but i realized that i was just being a dick
… and Dresden, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, N. Korea …, and in my grandmother’s time the Plains Indians (Sherman, Sheridan & Grant), … all highest level policy. Power is a terrible thing.
And how many children have the Russians killed over their MANY wars?
I mean it depends on when you start counting. If you just count post-Soviet not even close to as many as “the West.”
Are you sure about that or are you pulling stats out of your a** as usual?
Costs of war: https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/
Post-Soviet wars I and II:
https://www.fpri.org/article/2017/12/post-soviet-wars-part-i/
I just read a bunch of jibberish. What are the real numbers, chief?
What did you read?
Our sanctions against Iraq and the subsequent war there has killed a LOT more children than Russia has. We also were in Afghanistan longer than them. Plus Libya, Syria, and Yemen. We have killed a LOT more children than Russia has.
It would be better if you would not emphasize times when the US has been very brutal. The phrases All cards are on the table. and We don’t fight with one hand tied behind our back. are meant to project strong and ferocious, not brutal and inhumane.
Got it. Russian kills are OK because the US has killed more. Do you even think before you comment?
The use of radioactive weapons against Russia, gives the moral right to Russians to use the radioactive weapons against NATO. It is important for Russians to look good in eyes of BRICS countries.
In my understanding, the problem with DU is not that it is radioactive but that uranium is a toxic heavy metal. That, and the fact that DU projectiles actually heat to the point of combustion, spreading vaporized uranium across a wide area.
Russia has an alternative in the form of tungsten (wolframium) projectiles, which are equally capable of penetrating armor but with far less toxicity.
Russia also has good nukes of every kind. It looks the time is approaching to use some of them.
Odd way of looking good.
“US to Arm Ukraine With Toxic Depleted Uranium Ammunition The munitions will be used with US-made Abrams tanks”
Joey Biden and his government are now War Criminals!
Not “now!” That’s an insult! Joey Biden has always been! (Sarcasm)
Ahhhh … my tankies are crankiest today!
Tears flowing yet?
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1698740697371640219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1698740697371640219%7Ctwgr%5E48f1557c96dbfae5d93b59418e321e913e0fd04d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F9%2F4%2F2191456%2F-Ukraine-Update-The-tables-have-turned-on-the-artillery-war-and-the-Bayraktars-are-back
Deep$hitState talking pointers will soon remind us that DU is safe. I believe them. Anyone knows where I can order DU for my toe nail fungus? …Very stubborn. Worse than those Russians. (Sarcasm)
😂
More devices of death from the Empire Of Lies ….
It’s a sign of desperation…!
Seems like Europe will surely wake up to the fact that this war is a loose loose situation for them from fallout alone if worse comes to worse and the west Nukes Russia. Everybody dies.
A divorce is inevitable
it’s an unholy marriage anyway
Who’s wanna want that sh*thole after Amerikkkans are finished with it?
Cluster bombs, depleted uranium…what could possibly go wrong?
The US does not have any other armor piercing kinetic ammo for the M1 Abrams tanks. It is this or nothing. Sending the tank means sending the ammo.
The US put itself inside this box a long time ago, when it committed to the deplete uranium ammo for the M1 Abrams.
What kind of sick phuque thought depleted uranium to harden shells was a good idea in the first place? Is this another instance of “human progress” …. the second greatest illusion after “the control of nature”.
Again????
Anyways, in other news, one of Russia’s space program head scientists dies mysteriously after the planned spacecraft crash in the moon. 🤷🏽♂️
Those of you from Russia, Whatever you do, never ever speak out, not even online. Only write nice things about the Kremlin.
https://youtu.be/KCOIRs8lQHE?si=4mZ-tN-rYpnigirO
Has nothing to do with the war. Nothing.
And it’s also negative news about Russia hence your intervention.
But the pro russian team here can write anything negative about the West and you wont have any issues. Nothing.
So shut the F up.
It wasn’t negative news about Russia. It was news that I would expect. I don’t like Russia any more than I do the West no matter how hard you try to imagine that I do. My “intervention” was about you trying to deflect from what’s relevant.
Dude, dont even try.
1. For 18 f ing months you have been coming after all supporters of Ukraine.
2. I don’t remember ONE time when you went after pro russian folks here. Not once.
And relevant? Really?
Back to my response 2.
How many times have you gone after pro Ukraine folks here? Just wondering.
Not enough to make 10 fingers (if). there’s only like 2-3 of us here in a good day. i have had a minor disagreements but without the need to attack simply because IMO, they post fairly reasonable information. And none are pretending to be antiwar.
There you are again admitting that you do the same thing as me. It’s like when you bitch about me being anti-US because of our never-ending wars and belligerence while saying this:
You: And yes, i’m against US invasion of all previous wars.
1. I come after morons who want more war for the sake of the West’s (US) admitted (repeatedly) goal of weakening Russia. In other words, I’m against senseless death. And since the war is being conducted on Ukrainian territory, my concern for Ukrainians is greater. You? More war. More Ukranian deaths.
2. I’ve had several altercations with those who respect Putin just like you said you once did. I also replied several times to people who wanted Zelensky assassinated or wanted Russia to use nukes. I have never said anything positive about either country because their governments are both corrupt just like ours. So, as usual, you’re full of sh*t.
Russians are definitely losing and they know it. The Russian propagandists are hard pushing the “negotiate” meme.
Tankies know too!
“But at this point in the war, the administration has shown it’s not concerned about damaging Ukraine’s environment.”
Now this is more relevant.
I think Ukraine has higher priorities than worrying about an environment already destroyed by Russia.
They need to get Russia out first then deal with the contamination including mines and UXO Later
Destroyed by both countries. And these munitions kill years later, just like the cluster munitions being used. Only cancer kills much more slowly. But I see your concern, as always, is with the Ukranian people.
I’m confused. I thought they were using the Ukrainians as cannon fodders and until the last Ukrainian? Am I missing something? (Sarcasm)
Destroyed by both countries after one invaded and went scorched earth on it.
Pull your head out of Putin’s ass.
Are you saying Ukraine hasn’t used cluster bombs and DU? That’s all I said. You bringing up the invasion is just your way of trying to deny that you really aren’t concerned about Ukrainians.
My head has never been up Putin’s ass. Yours however has. What’s it like up there?
You: “I used to respect Putin and side with him a while ago, that stopped in 2014”
If our corporate overlords can’t have that rich Eastern farmland to exploit, no one can!
Infantile psychopaths.
Amen!
So one of the planets prime grain producing areas will be polluted for an eternity-US and australian grain prices will go up.
didn’t some of us have an argument earlier this year on this forum regarding DU? and i’m pretty sure one of the dimwits was trying to claim that DU is no more toxic than regular natural uranium that hasn’t been mined and enriched yet.
bloody hell i just scrolled down about 5 comments or so and it is all coming back to me now.
Spy, it was that Danish guy, whatever the f*ck his name was. Michael, maybe?
Michael64…?!
Yeah! Dat’s da guy!
Ukrainians are expendable in the big picture.
The ONLY controiversy about DU is why the US and her allies are allowed to keep and manufacture them – they are a violation of international laws concerning chemical and biological weapons.
The International Court of Justice and the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research disagree with your legal opinion.
The International Court of Justice and the UN Institute for Disarmament Research disagree with him and have the wrong opinion. It is not fair that International Law does not apply to NATO.
GW Bush declared war on Iraq and said it used chemical weapons against its own people, now the US is letting Ukraine use those weapons against Russia on Ukrainian Soil and it will affect the Ukrainian People. Biden is letting Ukraine use chemical weapons against its own people. No nation will declare war on the US for doing that.
Interesting claim. Any evidence that Ukraine is using chemical weapons? I try to watch for such things.
If the US is giving them depleted uranium, it is giving them chemical weapons unless depleted uranium doesn’t count as chemical weapons. The uranium it’s using against Russian Troops in its country will affect the already damaged environment in Ukraine.
Depleted uranium is not classed as a chemical weapon in any conventions, and the International Court of Justice determined that it was not a chemical weapon because its mechanism of action is kinetic, not chemical. It’s used in munitions because it’s a dense, hard metal that causes damage when it hits something.
Which is not to say there may not be bad things about depleted uranium. Any heavy metal is going to be dangerous for various reasons, but lead and tungsten aren’t classified as chemical weapons either.
The US is arming Ukraine with toxic depleted uranium. That will damage Ukraine’s already damaged environment. If that uranium affects Zelensky, he won’t blame it on the US, he’ll blame it on Russia.
Kremlin tolerated English shipment of depleted uranium munitions so this isn’t surprising at all. You tolerate terrorism and you get more of it.
That the US/EU and NATO sponsored the 2014 EuroMaidan Coup d’état was an illegal and criminal act. What the ICC calls the supreme international crime, the crime of aggression.
NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed, in an interview with The Washington Post, May 9, 2023, (speaking on behalf of NATO) that the “war didn’t start in 2022”. “The war started in 2014”
Our elites (predatory class) are monstrosities, unrestrained psychopaths.