Washington and Helsinki are working on a new deal to govern the military relationship between the two nations. Finland recently became the thirty-first member of NATO, doubling the alliance’s border with Russia.
According to YLE News, Finnish state media, Helsinki and Washington are negotiating a new Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA). YLE said the new deal would be a “significant departure from its previous” DCA with the US.
Finland held a prolonged policy of official neutrality prior to joining NATO earlier this year. However, Helsinki established deep ties with the bloc over recent decades. The new DCA will expand America’s military presence to several Finnish bases, including ports and airports.
The outlet reports the new DCA will “permit the presence of foreign troops for extended periods, specifically for conventional military exercises…[and] grant US military personnel access to facilities and areas within Finland for training, weapons storage, and equipment maintenance.”
The war games and NATO soldiers will be viewed as a provocation by Russia, which shares an 800 miles border with Finland. Helsinki already hosts NATO troops for military drills near the Russian border.
When Helsinki announced its intention to join the North Atlantic bloc last year, the Kremlin warned about additional international troop deployments in Finland. Last week, Moscow announced it would deploy additional military assets to its border with NATO members.
Finnish negotiations have expressed some reservations about expanding the DCA with the US. YLE explains, “noting that the agreement excludes nuclear weapons,” and Helsinki wants all integration troops deployments to be labeled as temporary.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
When, during WWII, Finland was allied with Nazi Germany and getting beaten badly by advancing Soviet Army forces, they sued for peace. As a condition of peace, they swore to remain neutral forever if the Soviet Union didn’t take them over. Russia did not occupy Finland. Now, the Finns have made that promise a lie. When Germany wanted to reunify after the breakup of the Soviet Union, the US promised, as a condition for peaceful reunification, to never expand NATO. They lied. The people of Russia have been lied to with impunity by the West and its unquenchable thirst for world domination. Russia is free people’s last hope to stop the Globalist American Empire from enslaving us.
Is a promise to an entity that no longer exists valid? The Soviet Union has been gone for more than 30 years. How could Finland possibly owe it anything?
Wow you just wrote one of the most powerful statements ever about the Empire.they want the whole world as their feeding trough.
You know who also lied? Russia, when it violated the Budapest Agreement and assured not to invade Ukraine last year.
Like the assurance of not one inch eastward? Maybe one has something to do with the other.
Was that in the agreement Russia and West signed?
Such said assurance shouldn’t have nothing to do with Ukraine sovereignty. It was just the excuse to take land.
It only had to do with Russian’s expansionistic ambitions.
I know, No Treaty. The old go-to when you know you reneged on promises. Never mind those assurances were what ended the cold war. And of course, Russia should follow all agreements while be encircled.
They are acting according to Churchill’s plan 1945: uniting Anglo-Saxon forces with all pro-Nazi forces in Europe in their new crusade against Russia.
Russia is no longer Communist. Churchill was against Communism not Russa. There’s a difference.
Yes, there is a difference. Communist empire was an existential threat to British empire and British oligarchy. Modern Russia is okay with peaceful coexistence with all other countries, providing, they are not hostile to Russia. On the other hand, Churchill was devoted to Anglo-Saxon oligarchy and definitely would share the idea of “full spectrum dominance”. Remember Kipling’s Great Game.
Well, if Finland is determined to associate with a proven loser like the US military, full speed ahead with their slap-stick farce..
The problem I see is that if the US loses there is a pretty good chance that humanity and life on this planet will cease to exist. If they win that won’t be good either.
So the natural choice at this point of history is between slow, torturous and utterly sadistic asphyxiation by the World’s only https://williamblum.org/books/rogue-state/ devoid of any sense mercy, not to mention pity continuously focused on https://williamblum.org/books/killing-hope/ for the rest of Humanity and a full-scale nuclear holocaust or its economic equivalent, whichever you prefer.
MARVELLOUS, isn’t it ..
Whether we like it or not the chances are that is what we will get. perhaps civilization has run its course.
Civilization?
Once upon a time, until 1917, Finland was part of Russia. If Finland screws up badly enough, I wonder if Russia might be willing to accept a return.
“Following Swedish losses in the 1808-1809 Finnish War with Russia, Finland became part of the Russian Empire from 1809 until its independence in 1917.” (Library of Congress)
Thanks for pointing this out.
It’s worth noting that the Soviets granted Finland its independence, which Finland repaid later by being very short of fully supportive of the German Reich.
It is very much unlikely.
By the way, before WW I, Warsaw also was in Russia.
Most unlikely.
What’s the point of trying to incorporate a continuously hateful, pathologically ungrateful and irrationally vindictive snake into one’s family?
Although any of Russia’s neighbours would undoubtedly prosper under Russia’s genuinely Federal system that rewards and promotes economic and parliamentary independence like no other state in Human history.
In surveys, Finland has been the one of, if not the, happiest countries on earth … watch how that measure deteriorates over the next few years as militarism and paranoia take power. So sad to see these people needlessly abandon the peace they had worked so hard to achieve.
YES!
“… and the living nations wait,
Each sequestered in its hate.”
In Memory of W. B. Yeats
by W. H. Auden 1907–1973
Yes, hate seems to be the thing in Europe these days. Apparently they love hate more than peace and prosperity.
Hate is infectious.
It spreads like Covid.
Let’s just hope it isn’t ’38 again.
It is and it isn’t:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4151858-us-announces-new-200m-ukraine-aid-package/
Right, it’ll be a tad worse, … ?? we certainly can’t cancel our Armageddon bash yet.
The short answer – “wouldn’t that be nice ” ..
Otherwise, our “Armageddon bash” is here and now, although most of us still think it must be just a bad dream. Individuals making nothing short of genuinely courageous efforts to face reality “as is” are routinely marginalised and continuously sabotaged by the purposefully overzealous Mainstream media staff writers on behalf and for the benefit of their owners.
Here is just one example: “(!)Longshot(!) Democratic presidential candidate and (!)conspiracy theorist(!) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talked to NBC News Correspondent Ali Vitali about (!)his views(!) on abortion, foreign policy and the indictments against former President Trump.” – the quote is a very skilfully indeed AND purposefully undermining intro to the actual content of this interview:
https://youtu.be/p8zHyX8QUpE
Couldn’t agree more.
if indeed this comes to pass it will just be another step in our path to destruction. War war and more war ,how much rice can a white Capitalist,Imperialist eat or swallow?
As much as his or her ever expanding belly of steel can possibly hold, regardless of their skin colour.
How could that happen, there were no national debates in Sweden or in Finland. Why would they jump on a sinking ship? Finland and Sweden both had one term young female PMs when they applied for NATO membership. They were in office for only one term and only one thing they accomplished was to end decades of neutrality and jump on the sinking NATO.
How much did the CIA invest in the one term REGIME CHANGE, enough time to do harm to both nations and sign two new well funded paying NATO members?
Maybe I am just silly, but I do not trust the criminal elements running the NATO nations.
It smells. Sweden is now running a campaign to convince the people joining NATO is a good thing.
The propaganda rollout last February and March was flawless and seemed to infect the entire Western European space with temporary (I hope) lunacy. While Mil-Ind elements in both these nations have wanted/longed to join the NATO gravy train for decades, they’ve been stymied by strong public pressure to the contrary. Once that pressure was eased, the elite used the opportunity to pounce … never let a good emergency go to waste. Well, Nokia, Ericson, Saab, etc. will be very happy …
The Empire Of Lies is like a malignant cancer ever creeping, contaminating and destroying whatever it touches.
In other words, the military occupation of the now entirely subservient European continent by The United Killer Snakes of America continues unabated.
Splendid, isn’t it ..
Incidentally,
U.S. Empire Named Most Murderous Killing Machine In History
A new study finds the U.S. responsible for nearly 300 million deaths—and counting.
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/05/30/u-s-empire-named-most-murderous-killing-machine-in-history.
Proportionally, the Mongols probably still have us beat; but it’s not a comparison one would like with one’s country, right? As MLLK said, “the biggest purveyor of violence in the world today” …
It’s impressive that you’re able to identify the true origins of the competition and the possible inspiration for the American Empire. It could be worthwhile to explore the topic further and even commission our very own most beloved, not to mention most invaluable Thomas The Mighty Anti-War Tank Engine to write an expertly crafted introduction for a potential book.
What are your thoughts on this idea?
First Mongolian state appeared in 20th century. First ever Mongolian army also appeared in 20th century. It was created by Bolshevik general Rokossovsky. Mongolian capital Ulan Bator during several previous centuries was a transshipment point on the trade way from China to Russia. The word Mongol derived from the word Mogul (in Russian Moguchi means nearly the same as in Latin Magna. There was Magna Tartary empire which was first created on the middle Volga in 13th century by Tatars. Tatars are Europeans. Greeks, for example, genetically, are much closer to Volga Tatars than to Russians. North Asia, including modern Mongolia, was colonized by Volga Tatars in 14th-15th centuries. In 16th century, most of North Asia was occupied (colonized) by Russians (Moscow Tartary).
I think, Caliman was referring to the so called Golden Horde which comprised of both Mongolians and Mongolian Tartars.
https://factsanddetails.com/asian/cat65/sub423/entry-5253.html
It is a fake story. It was invented in 16th-17th centuries. At the time, they also spread lies about Turks. Even now you can find in historical books that Turks originated somewhere near Baikal lake. Now we know for sure that, genetically, nearest people to Turks are Armenians and Greeks. The “traditional” history, particular in what does concern the times before 16th century, is mostly a political fabrication detached from reality.
There is nothing fake about the link content I offered for your attention. Please try to reread it.
I didn’t looked the link. Just talking about traditional fake history created by Catholic Vatican in second half of 16th century.
And Temujin aka Genghis Khan was a fictional character and his various armies did not wreak havoc on the known world all the way to Poland and Baghdad … wow, what inventive people.
The Turkish people are originally from Transoxiana. They migrated to the Caspian area and therefrom to Asia Minor in the middle ages.
However, not all the people who speak Turkish are genetic Turks; many in Asia Minor took up the language of their conquerors.
Genghis Khan was Volga Tatar from the ruling dynasty. He has nothing to do with Mongols or any other Asian peoples. Golden Horde was the central part of Empire where professional army (Horde) was recruited. It was a monk army (kind of jihadists) composed of local peoples: Tatars, Russians and Finno-Ugorians. After the long war, Horde, led by Genghis Khan, defeated Egyptian Empire (First Roman Empire) and for a half century ruled all the civilized world.
Just, wow … this certainly gives caution as to your other comments I’ve read here 🙂 …
The stories nations come up with to justify losing wars to “lesser” people …
The first chronology of the world history was created by Scaliger. Scaliger was one of the greatest scientists working for Catholic Vatican. He dated Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome (Italian Rome) and other ancient kingdoms and civilizations. Among other things, he also dated the creation of the world (somewhat about 6 000 years ago). They stopped to count the time from the creation of the world not so long time ago. It was used in Europe in 18th century. Then they abandoned it because it became too ridiculous but they never touched his dating of the ancient kingdoms. Those who dared not to agree with Scaliger dating, were persecuted by Vatican. That’s how traditional chronology and traditional history were established.
The Vatican had expertise in forgery and of course making up fairy tales.
That is true. Also the truth is that the world financial center in second half 15th century moved from Bosporus to North Italy. In the end of 15th century Christian religion was split in several branches. North Italian oligarchs managed to convert to Catholicism Horde units stationed in Europe and created a new European Roman Empire under the rule of Catholic oligarchy.
Europeans are not the only peoples to write history. Perhaps you could look into Persian, Chinese, or Indian histories of the time to see what they said about the Mongol attacks circa 13th and 14th centuries if you don’t trust the western editions?
Of course every new state is writing it’s own history but they are making it within “traditional chronology”. Chinese history was created by Jesuits who were working for Chinese Emperors in 16th-17th centuries. Some historians believe that Chinese hieroglyphs were also invented by Jesuits. The fact is that Chinese history in many places is just a copy of European history. It doesn’t mean that Chinese appeared from nowhere. People lived there the same as they lived, for example, in North America. But unlike North American Indians, Chinese people were not exterminated but involved in the civilization. Because they were colonized by Christians who really believed in Jesus Crist and acted accordingly.
“Some historians believe that Chinese hieroglyphs were also invented by Jesuits.”
Okey dokey …
Well, truth really is stranger than fiction – the only long-lasting “time-proof” conclusion I can think of or come up with.
Incidentally, if I may: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fact-Investigation-Hypothesis-American-Casebooks/dp/031481258X
Although it is unshakable that it should be facts first – hypothesis second, NOT the other way round.
I would think they lied and demonized their enemy at least as much as we do in modern times.
Mongols were amazingly modern in battlefield and propaganda tactics. They would use previous massacres as a terror tool to put fear of God in enemy peoples and have them lose before battle was joined. Whole cities surrendered with little fighting.
You are repeating the fake story about great Mongol empire. It never existed. The word Mongol in connection to the people whom we now call Mongols, appeared in 18th century. In 17th century neither Russians nor anyone else knew anything about Mongols. The term Tatar-Mongols was introduced by German academicians in service of Romanov dynasty. The point is, when Romanovs got to the power, first 160 years they controlled only European part of Russia. Of course, they claimed that Asian part of former Russian empire (Great Tartary) also belong to them. Those two parts of former Russian Empire (Great Tartary) were hostile to each other. That was the reason for demonization.
When the bombs start falling the morality and words fail to have meaning.
Yes, as in the unspoken, Truly GOLDEN Guiding Principle of The Invariably UNITED Killer Snakes of America:
http://img.picturequotes.com/1/811/if-you-dont-come-to-democracy-democracy-will-come-to-you-quote-1.jpg
i think your number is way too low.
Please feel free to contribute towards a more accurate estimate.
A great many of the people who write in comments have a clear grasp of the siuation and have a superb vocabulary. If only words were bullets or missiles.
US, Finland Negotiating Defense Agreement That Would See Deployment of American Troops
wait, what? Finland is right next door to Russia. if i lived in Finland (instead of Southern California) i would probably raise one of my hands and say “enough is enongh!”
Let me see…. Ha Ha Ha 😉
That is all.
The best that can happen to Europe will be the implosion of NATO and EU, and the sooner the better. The fanatic and greedy idiots in charge of NATO are dangerous people, they must go.
I remember when Stalin said about the Pope ” How many divisions does he have”.
Some Christian teachings suggest that the Papacy represents the Antichrist on Earth, implying that His Holiness can have as many war-making units as he chooses.
They are most unlikely to go quietly, though.
The Finnish military industrial complex is happy as well as the few Finnish involved with it who will see a huge increase in income and build new homes.
It’s not as if NATO is currently capable of sustaining of a long war (maybe the politicians will use their expertise to fix these current supply issues with the current war and that won’t be a issue? ….;-) against Russia and it needs bases in Finland to do it.
For all those who keep reassuring us that “Biden is the adult in the room” and not to worry, a “nuclear war” isn’t happening, here’s what I would like to say: FU@K OFF!!!! (Sarcasm)
The only adult in the room, as stated many times here, is Putin. The guy who invaded Ukraine and annexed their land.
FO
That didn’t even require sarcasm, NA!
The thought of ByeDone being “the adult in the room” almost guarantees WWLast!
Once again, the US/NATO is proving Russia’s point and is the very reason this whole shit show is going on.
No, Russia is proving West’s point and is the very reason this whole sh!t show is going on.
The West’s point was to surround and provoke Russia until they took the bait. After that was accomplished, we get more of the same. Self-fulfilling prophesy comes to mind.
Reading the articles and comments on these sites indicates the shallowness and lousy education available in our school systems by design.
After their defeat in WW2 and the surrender conditions imposed, the people of Finland should know better, what a disgrace they are.
Back building a military with the Nazi’s again. Nazi’s will always be Nazi’s.
Couldn’t agree more.