Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told Financial Times in an interview published Wednesday that his country serves as an ideal “testing ground” for Western weaponry.
Reznikov said that Ukraine’s Western backers can see how their weapons work in a war against Russia to see if they’re efficient or need upgrades. “For the military industry of the world, you can’t invent a better testing ground,” he said.
Reznikov made similar comments last year when asking for the US and its NATO allies to send more weapons. “We are interested in testing modern systems in the fight against the enemy and we are inviting arms manufacturers to test the new products here,” he said in July 2022.
In the interview on Wednesday, Reznikov said US officials were very happy when Ukraine’s military reported that a US Patriot missile system downed a Kinzhal, a Russian hypersonic missile. Reznikov said a US official called the news “fantastic.”
Reznikov said Russia has countered some of the Western weaponry, including the HIMARS rocket systems, which fire GPS-guided munitions. He said the HIMARS were “highly accurate” when first delivered but that Russia has found ways to jam the system.
“The Russians come up with a countermeasure, we inform our partners and they make a new countermeasure against this countermeasure,” Reznikov said.
He said that many countries are watching the developments on the battlefield in Ukraine, including those that are armed with Russian weapons. “Everyone is watching closely. And not only India. China too … Everyone, even those who bought weapons from [Russia], will watch carefully,” he said.
The Ukrainian defense chief also touted maintenance contracts Ukraine has signed with Western arms companies, calling it an example of how Ukraine is a “de facto” NATO member. Reznikov has previously referred to Ukraine as a de facto member of the Western alliance and said earlier this year that his country was “shedding blood” for a “NATO mission.”
A recent view of that great testing ground:
Ukraine’s Western Armor Suffered Enormous Losses While Breaching a Minefield
Still showing the tank losses from June 9th? (Kinda shows you that it hasn’t been repeated, huh?) War is death and destruction. You adapt your tactics and prevent another loss like that. That’s EXACTLY what the Ukes have done. See if you can find another picture like the one attached to your article. Good luck!
Yes, a testing ground populated by hundreds of thousands of
crash-test dummies, Ukrainians who have perished in this God-forsaken war.
Ukrainians dying defending their land. Russians dying for Putin personal war.
While serving as crash dummies. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Who exactly is serving as the crash-test dummies?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbcQXKYijuw&pp=ygUSVWtyYWluZSB3YXJ2bGF0ZXN0
And that means Ukrainians aren’t?
Ukrainians have chosen to defend their country. I support that. Russians dying for some BS? Unfortunately, right now, I have to support that too…
Yes, we’ve been over that. Again, that doesn’t mean they aren’t being used as crash test dummies. Their fucking DM admitted as such. But your good with that. And, like some of the others that equate this war as some sporting event, you’re good with Ukrainians dying just as long as members on the other team are dying also.
Defenders decided to defend. Their decision.
Which doesn’t preclude them from being used as crash test dummies. But keep avoiding that simple fact.
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO DEFEND THEIR COUNTRY AFTER AN AGGRESSOR INVADED. They are not crash test dummies. They had free will and decided to do the patriotic thing. You can keep saying it but it won’t make you any more right.
Once more, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. If their DM admits that, why can’t you? Or do you not understand what he said?
He didn’t say what you think he did. How’s your reading comprehension? You’re using garbage logic to turn what he said into something that fits your narrative. You really do sometimes argue like a child.
He said exactly what I thought he said. He doesn’t give a flying fuck about his own people. Spin it how you want.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yksEryZL63B1/
As requested, AFU/NATO Counteroffensive in action
Love it!
Wow!
His country?
🥱
And Russian too is testing.
That’s quite the stretch. I suppose if Russia had been invaded and they were relying on weaponry from outside of their country and their defense minister said how “ideal” it was to test those weapons inside of Russia, you might have a point.
Nice of you to accidentally acknowledge Ukraine was invaded.
Sure. Accidentally. Like the other hundred times.
Ukraine is a testing ground for both NATO and Russian new weapons. Ukrainian people became training targets and Kiev regime is happy about that. A very lucrative business indeed.
Look at France (metaphor for Europe) and look at Russia. Europe is burning and Russia is unified. I notice that in France the Military has stood down and will not protect Macron. Is Macron about to be removed from office?
Do you have a link for that? That’s very interesting about the military.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56899765
BBC is also part of the UK Ministry of Truth, so who knows?
Thanks Lily also for the laugh, but you’re right.
This sounds different than supporting protestors.
That was all I could find re. the French military and the riots.
I think maybe the other guy misinterpreted the gist? Or maybe I did. It’s too hot, my brain is fried.
I’m waiting for Wash. to say Russia is behind the French riots.
LOL. Or say Russia gassed the French protesters.
They have. Weapons sent by France to Ukraine have showed up in France in these riots, and our media blames Russia for the corrupt Ukrainians selling French weapons back to the French.
“Ukraine Defense Minister Says His Country Is Great ‘Testing Ground’ for Western Arms.” When I first read the statement, I was horrified. I thought it was Russian propaganda. It’s almost impossible to better display the level of stupidity, inhumanity, immorality, and corruption of Ukraine’s leaders. It seems, in his excitement over the dollars he received, the guy forgot he’s talking about hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians. No wonder that even the CIA thought he was too corrupt to be the defense minister, which is a paradox by itself. But, it seems they changed their minds on removing him. …Why? Well, obviously his absurd level of corruption makes him ideal for his job! (Sarcasm alert)
You have to be a psychopath to get to the top.
Well said, and sooooo true!
USA DC Ghouls in bed with the devil!
More like a graveyard for old obsolete Western arms and systems and testing ground for amazing new breakthrough peerless weapons by Russian geniuses like their unstoppable hypersonic and their electronic warfare jamming of the supposedly game changing Hymars. Its a testing groundds alright and the poor Ukrainians are the guiney pigs…!!! Just goez to hylight American/ NATO hubris that led to this unfolding FIASCO….!! Too bad the sad Ukrainians didn’t have the savvy 2C Handwriting on Wall of AFGHANISTAN
Hey, at least HIMARS work at killing civilians. That Fail35 jet can’t win a battle against gravity.
Hypersonic!! Lol.
This fiasco was started by dictator Putin.
Poster Don appears to be a Chatty Propaganda Doll™. Pull the string and it repeats official nonsense from the Ministry of Truth.
https://toytales.ca/chatty-cathy-from-mattel/
I blocked it some time ago. It’s just babble without any evidence of independent thought behind.
It is both a testing ground and a huge graveyard.
And all that “obsolete” weaponry is slowly pushing back Russian troops. Jeez, even Western “junk” is better than Russia’s best equipment.
Slowly pushing back? If so, it’s so slowly that it’s invisible even to much of the Western MSM and on pro-Ukrainian maps of the fighting.
https://liveuamap.com/
There’s nothing rational about the nonsense you’ve been spouting since I began to read these posts with some regularity.
I’ll say it again: Many sources — including Russian mil-bloggers — have confirmed Ukraine advances. You just keep injecting your Copium, tankie.
Say it as often as you like but it’s still not true, wankie.
Stinging comeback! I may not recover from that one.
So far, after one month of the offensive, Ukrainian/NATO army captured only some minefields where a lot of their armor vehicles were destroyed. They never approached even the first Russian defense line.
They are at the defensive line now. You’d better hope that the Ruskies haven’t spent their forces — stupidly — coming out from those lines to face-off against the Ukes. You really haven’t been paying attention, have you? You’ve been eating up all of the Russian propaganda and not seen the reality, have you, Baghdad Bob?
I’ll add this because Twitter is now requiring a subscription:
“ Well, my working theory is that it is because Ukraine changed its tactics during the offensive to exploit these long round trips. Which is another short discussion.
The basics of the tactic are: a. Advance to contact b. Press hard enough that Russian artillery opens up c. Rely on Russian arty doctrine to fire everything d. Pull back / hunker down from arty e. Use your own artillery for counter battery fire.
f. Wait until Russians are low on ammunition to press forward again g. Use armor / IFVs for longer range fire support before clearing trenches with infantry
Ukraine knows that they have a window of opportunity while adversary artillery is either in a duel, or waiting on re-supply.The Russian response may have been to start surreptitiously bringing smaller ammunition dumps closer to the front again to reduce round trip distance.”
Enjoy, tankies!
“They are at the defensive line” – yes, they are trying approach the first defensive line again and again and still never succeeded. The casualties are huge. 10 Ukrainian/NATO soldiers to 1 Russian only at the front line, not counting many thousands killed by Russian missiles in places of their concentration. Yesterday, for example, Russian missiles, among other targets, hit a concentration of NATO mercenaries in Lvov (Western Ukraine).
Hahaha. None of that is actually true. Nice try though.
You “say again” nothing even remotely meaningful. What sources are you citing? Where can we find the specific “confirmations” you claim? Why should we, or anyone, believe those claims of advances when even the most gung ho, pro-Ukrainian Western MSM has claimed nothing more than the capture of a few empty villages and has not reported any serious movement beyond the security zone?
Copium? Do you think LiveuaMap is copium? Or is map reading not one of your stronger skills?
Actually, I don’t think you understand what “copium” is intended to convey. Let me help you: The word, a cute and clever construct like hopium, is meant to describe behaviors, beliefs, explanations, etc. used to cope with failures, reverses, adverse circumstances. It is entirely inapplicable to anything I’ve posted.
Copium might, however, be an appropriate description of the recent complaints (whining?) by Ukraine commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/1/ukraine-commander-irked-by-lack-of-arms-promised-for-offensive
I’ve only seen your recent posts, but so far, every one I’ve read has been full of shit. And your self-description as a rational thinker seems sillier with every post. You should be embarrassed.
Someone is failing their tests.
The Ukrainian regime is infested with scum who have zero regard for human life.
Same applies to the evil that resides in wash dc; take a look at the civilian kills/maimed over the years with the us “fight for democracy and freedom.”
It is in the millions but the war profiteers are ecstatic (and their owned lackeys in congress).
He could have put the name of damn near every country on the planet before the word scum and it would apply. Maybe even all of them.
Ukraine Defense Minister Says His Country Is Great ‘Testing Ground’ for Western Arms
oh is Ukraine getting brand-new untested weapons tech ?
i thought they were getting patriot missiles, bradley bucket-of-bolts and leopard tanks.
and what happened with the F-16s that were supposedly on their way to Ukraine.
do they need to be tested as well?
Your Russian friends are having some issues…
From a report:
“Russia’s metal industry is dead,” our source says. “When a competition for barrel blanks was announced, all the samples put up for it turned out to be defective. The special thing about the new barrels is that they must withstand greater pressure, that is, be more durable. This requires special alloys and melting modes, as well as small-sized furnaces. The thing is: Russia’s metallurgy is focused on large volumes and mass grades of steel.
Ouch! Maybe you guys cane wish upon a star and make Putin’s army what you think it it’s! Hahaha. Tool bags!
Not a very current report. It seems to have originated last November in Novaya Gazeta.
How about this “report”?
https://twitter.com/region776/status/1676958724701970432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1676958724701970432%7Ctwgr%5Efcab423f58542b38306e79b0bea14b47b7f253d8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F7%2F6%2F2179564%2F-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-plus-U-S-to-supply-Ukraine-with-cluster-munitions
Interesting. But undated.
10:18 AM – July 6th, 2023.
Is that something you struggle with?
No, I don’t “struggle with” naively assuming that the time and date of a tweet represents the time and date of whatever happened in a video in the tweet.
And you think it’s gotten better since then?
Yes, please test some more on them. Ukraine officials are bringing back S&M as long as they can watch instead of participate.
It is also a testing ground for Russian weapons, and Iran’s drones, and Chinese ideas no doubt.
As with Spain’s Civil War testing weapons before WW2, the real issue is who will learn real lessons, and who is blind to new ideas.
Russia, China, Iran and N. Korea all know what’s coming and naturally they will prepare for it. This time America is the bad one in the bloody mix.
Nothing new the Americans have used ever war they have started to test the latest war toy`s .
Like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki..
Vietnam was a testing ground for US weapons when Wash. thought they would have to fight the Soviets. Ukraine is the testing ground, and a place to destroy old weapons so new ones can be manufactured to enrich the military, industrial, political, media complex. They are all linked on Wall St. for mutual benefit and profits at the expense of lives and taxes. I’m getting tired of my wages being used to destroy lives and real estate that are no threat to me or my country. Is a violent revolution the only solution? I do hope things turn around before we’re all toast.
What kind of leaders allow their own to perish for the benefit of Lockheed-Martin, et al?
Criminal Psychopaths.