Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said Wednesday that Ukraine will receive “a lot” from NATO at the summit his country is hosting next week from July 11-12.
NATO members are still debating what new pledges Ukraine will receive at the summit in Vilnius. Kyiv wants a guarantee from NATO that it can join the alliance after the war, but the US and Germany have expressed reluctance to offer that.
“I have a sense that we will find formulations which will not disappoint Ukrainians and will convey more than we are used to saying,” Nauseda said. He added that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “might not receive everything he expects in his most ambitious plans, but he will certainly receive a lot.”
A day earlier, Nauseda said NATO should disregard concerns about guarantees for Ukraine provoking Russia. “We should not hesitate to take bolder decisions because otherwise, the Putin regime will decide that the Western allies are too weak,” he said.
Ukraine was first promised that it would eventually become a NATO member at a 2008 summit in Bucharest but was never given a clear timeline. US Ambassador to NATO Julianne Smith told reporters last week that NATO allies feel they will come to an agreement that’s stronger than the promise made in 2008.
“Most of us feel confident that we are going to be able to come to an agreement that will reflect where we are and that the Ukrainians will believe and feel is something above and beyond restating Bucharest,” Smith said.
“Lithuania Says NATO Will Give Ukraine ‘A Lot’ at Upcoming Summit”
Once again a small rump state committing American taxpayers to sending more to Ukraine!
Exactly … this fellow is president of what would be a small and insignificant state that is slowly losing its population. That such a nonentity can make comments and commitments for NATO … truly a “Mouse that Roared” moment.
Just in : apart from more crap equipment, woeful military training, meaningless security guarantees & further humiliation on the battlefield, I’ve heard that this new NATO ‘gift package’ to Kiev will include an endless supply of hopium, plus a daily unhinged Stoltenberg press conference.
Exciting times.
Love it! I looked up “hopium: noun informal, derogatory, irrational or unwarranted optimism.” Sounds fantastic. But, please no Stoltenberg press conferences. Even Zelensky probably had enough. …Wait! Does it come in white powder?(Sarcasm alert)
Zelensky: “How much is ‘a lot?'”
NausedaNausea says, “‘a lot,’ means more of what you already got.” Zelensky: “‘A lot’ more money or more death for my people?”NausedaNausea says, “‘a lot’ more of both.” Zelensky: “You had me at ‘a lot’ more money.” (Sarcasm alert)“of course it is better to give than to receive”
…… US tax-payers
Excuse me, Spy. Is there an option to receive and not give? …What’s that? Already taken by Zelensky?! C’mon man!
“New pledges” sounds as if that’s meaningful put always remember “pledges” by politicians have quite the elastic meaning.
They’ll receive a lot alright. A lot of disappointment.
If this means long-range HIMARS for targets inside Russia (breaking the unwritten agreement limiting the war to Ukraine) will Russia start targeting depots and routes inside Poland triggering Article 5 and …??
I think it’s a foregone conclusion at this point.
No need Russia’s A2/AD complexes and Air Defences will deadeal with them as they have been. Besides if the weapons are not in the theatre of operations why bother. If there was an absolute need to bomb something well into NATO’s strategic depth, it may as well be Decision Making centres. But I think in order for that to happen, the function of the Russian forces will have to change from SMO to something else. I doubt they would engage in such an action in their current configuration.
For the most part, yes; but we have seen strikes penetrate inside the Kremlin, oil storage in Crimea, and the Kakhovka dam. Lithuania and Poland are itching for a go at Russia and the Washington war party (which is decisive) is probably not loathe to oblige.
Perhaps your right. In a fight anyone can get lucky and land some punches but we are talking of the ability to knock out the opponent. I don’t know how you can throw Lithuania in any pot with Russia and call it a fight but to each is own. I have an analogy for you. When Bruce Lee was alive, everytime he visited China or Hong Kong for vacay or movie promo, Kung Fu masters far and wide would seek him out and challenge right where he stood (allegedly because they were insulted by his Meet Kun Do martial arts and the way he was just peddleing it to the outside world – sacrilege!) and each time he would have to prove his ideology and methodology by administrating a major ass whooping in the challenger. So they would always come out itching for a fight and always, I mean always leave with a good understanding of what Bruce was all about. Catch my drift.
The US is writing worthless checks that the Europeans are cashing in with both their lives and their livelihood. Soon they will come to realise there are no attainable economical gains to be had. They thought if they all joined in the gangbang, surely they would reach a 1991 climax and Russia would be all drenched and spent for them to loot as Uncle Sam once did. Meanwhile the US hiding behind an ocean will come out unscathed. Well for one, those taxpayers will have something to say about it since they won’t be reaping anything from any of the gift packages NATO is receiving and that even if they succeed. Hungary and France have read the tea leaves as Macron is slowly and inconspicuously beginning to back out. Europe is the first and true casualty of the West’s war on Russia. It has been said of Satan: “He is always with other people, but not by recognizing or respecting their being, but as an object of his will.”
Love the reference regarding Satan. Also, he is “the accuser of the brethren” (Revelation 12:10). It’s a quality more prominent in Democrats lately–not that the Republicans are averse to it. If you disagree with them, you’re a right wing extremist, conspiracy theorist, pro-Putin, pro-Russia, climate denier, antisemitic, anti-science, anti-vaxer… Okay, I’m getting tired. I’m gonna take a nap. (old sarcasm)
Tell me about it. You are a terrorist hell bent on destroying our freedoms and our way of life like Taliban, Bashar, Ayatollah, Kim Jong Un and them are tryiing to do so with their refusal to acquiescence.
You are actually textbook tankies. Your contrarian in nature and you all think you are profound. Meanwhile, you’re just useful idiots for Putin and other despots.
Yeah, “. . .we gotta fight them over there or we’ll have to fight them on Main St., USA” Heard that one before? It’s again being used because Americans are gullible and actually still have faith in Wash.
Is that what I posted?
That’s what you think, isn’t it?
No.
Contrarian with regard to…? How are we of use to Putin. We mere mortals discussing geopolitical news and analysea while he actually makes the news and history. He has the govt and general staff for his use. So I don’t see how your argument fits.
Your discussing it without utilizing facts. Facts — sometimes difficult to hear — help frame the discussion. The US is a representative democracy. The more people who spout Putin’s misinformation, the more politicians will lean toward the invader’s side. We need to assist Ukraine in their defense against an invader. Real facts help that endeavor.
Yes yes I know all about your supposed facts. Facts that are steady diet fed to you enough for you to be unable to make your own coherent conclusion. Tell me again why did Russia “invade” Ukraine? I m curious to your level of “rational thinking”, after all you did just claim the US was a representative democracy. I wonder who they represent. I suppose the invasions of Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan were all about spreading this representative democracy and as for Afghanistan, bringing textbooks and education to the female population right?
Putin invaded Ukraine to connect a land bridge to Crimea. Do you believe it was for another reason? Hahaha. Who’s been propagandized?
The US had made many mistakes. (Some in support of corporations and some in misguided attempts to support fledgling democratic movements.)
You decide to ignore facts and history, which is your right to do, but you believe your some savant that can see many more demensions. Turns out, you wind up looking like a rube.
Why would anyone want to invade another country just to build a bridge. So you’re telling me the purpose of the entire smo and all the lives it has cost, was to build a land bridge? Do you know where Crimea is? Who is feeding you this nonsense and for you to eat it up and digest it without as much as a critical thought…I mean what are we talking about here. You mention history, whilst you are the one ignoring a sizeable part of it in fact all of it that led to the war. No Minsk, no maidan, no indivisible security, no Syria. I mean did you just wake up in the middle of the current events and are just now playing catchup. I like how you liberal war party boys like to chalk up 70+ years of destructive wars the US has visited upon nations a cross the board as “mistake were made, the US has made a lot of mistakes”. Clearly either you are clueless or are wilfully ignoring once again history of American hegemony in the last century. America is the destroyer nation, there has been no mistakes to what it ventured out to do, there may have been miscalculations in what it hoped to achieve and flat out failed, to call American War adventures mistakes made, whilst the go about making the same mistakes year after year is denial, disillusionment and delusion of a magnitude unheard of. It would explain the current “mistake” that you are so insistent of defending and you as the useful idiot to liberal neocon who think the world revolves around their asses with all their stupid ideals. The fact that the entire world is fed up and pushing back at so called US “foreign policy” is lost on you. You think that people are just jealous of your exceptionalistan, and freedoms and are out to get you for them, nevermind that they don’t want to have anything to do with you but having to deal with your constant meddling in other nations affairs, constant blackmailing, threats of sanctions, or regional turmoil if people don’t accept useless legislature that is decided in the US congress and has no correlation with other nations. No, either you are a child hoped up narcotics, or gullible pleb in dire need of detoxification from all the brainwashing your MSM has fully installed on your delusional mind. Wake up and start processing reality, because either way you’re in for a rude awakening pal.
Whoa. You used a lot of words there. Have you had the opportunity to look at the map of Russian occupied territory in Ukraine? They wanted a land bridge connecting Russia with Crimea. Is it possible you haven’t even considered the geo-strategic benefit of that land bridge? Hahaha. In that case, I’ll dismiss the rest of your regurgitation of words you thought were insightful.
Also, Russia is still losing — no matter what you’ve convinced yourself of, tankie.
They have the Krech bridge, it was the site of a SBU diversionary sabotage, and it was completed before the start of the SMO so that trumps your stupid argument. Yes by all means dismiss them. You have been dismissing all kinds of truths to have reached where you are. Geo strategic benefits, boy you like nice sounding phrases yet clearly lack the depth to explain it all. I know guys like you. You think the war is some wrestling match and have bought into the Ukraine cover story because rah rah! Guys who obsess over daily troop advances to console their butt hurt little hearts that they are still in the game after losing 3 mobilizations, loss billions worth of equipment, having achieved nothing to show for, but yeah you are just one counter offensive away from winning the championship. If only Uncle Sam.can reach into his stockpiles and give us this number of artillery shells, Bradleys and himars and f16 we sure to get it done. News flash: US hasn’t won a war since the first Iraq war, against a nation with a puny military. They couldn’t win against Afghans, Iraq insurgents, Syrians and now with all this experience in losing, you think that Ukrainian NATO trained Nazis are gonna do any better. Ah the amount of copium you must need. You are right, no replies needed. I have had my fill of chatting with a twig. Good riddance
Wow. You DO know the Kerch bridge was disabled by St. HIMARS, right? Are you able to keep up with (semi) recent events? Lots of talk but no substance there, chief. Keep trying, though. I’m pulling for you!
You’re a joker. You said Russia invaded to build a bridge, I tell you the Crimea bridge was completed way before the outbreak of the war and you retaliate with military porn. I can’t with you anymore. Don’t bother replying.
land bridge, n. a strip of land connecting two landmasses (as two continents or a continent and an island)
Control of the Donbas, and of a strip of Zaporzizhia oblast along the Azov Sea, gives Russia a direct land route to Crimea rather than relying on sea transport or the Kerch Bridge. Such a corridor or “land bridge” has presumably always been one of the Russian war aims.
Since the SMO started, but not before.
It’s vanishingly unlikely that the Russian armed forces started the war without a plan. And not much more likely that that plan didn’t include a land corridor to connect the Donbas to Crimea. You don’t fight an eight-year proxy war to gain control of the Donbas, then escalate to full war when peace threatens to break out without it having fallen into your eager hands, for no reason.
You know as well as I do that Putin did everything he could to try and bring about a peaceful resolution between the U.S. puppet regime in Kiev and the ethnic Russians in the eastern parts of Ukraine. He pushed for the Minsk Accords which were signed by Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany. Merkel, Hollande, and Poroshenko have all acknowledged that they only signed the accords to buy time to build up Ukraine’s military and lethal weaponry to fight Russia. If Putin was so keen on creating a land bridge to Crimea he would have annexed the Donbass regions right after the Maidan coup when the people there were begging him to do just that. He turned them down. It would have been a lot easier back then than it is now.
Now that Russia has had to fight the U.S. and 30 plus NATO nations in Ukraine at considerable cost in blood and treasure, of course Putin should not give up the land linking Russia to Crimea. Only a fool would do that.
When did peace threaten to break out? I must have missed something. I seem to recall Blinken saying that nothing has changed and everything will stay the same when Russia was asking for negotiations over security concerns. In other words, he told Putin to go pound sand.
The war mongers are in D.C. not Moscow. How many nations has the Russian Federation invaded in the past 30 years? How many nations has the U.S. invaded in that same time frame? How many color revolutions has the U.S. incited?
The Minsk Accords were signed by Russia, Ukraine, and the separatists. And then ignored by all three.
Yes, Putin did everything he could to bring about a peaceful resolution, with “peaceful” defined as “Vlad gets whatever Vlad wants.” Rather than hostilities settling down to low double digit deaths per year and threatening to end entirely, as they had before he decided to re-escalate to full invasion.
“The war mongers are in D.C. not Moscow”
They’re in both places, and many others.
“How many nations has the Russian Federation invaded in the past 30 years?”
I can only think of four offhand (Chechnya, Georgia, Khazakhstan, and Ukraine), which is fewer than the US has.
Its become abundantly clear through certain exchanges here that some people are forcefully blinding themselves to reality. They want what they want. They will obfuscate, dismiss, twist words, omit and skew certain truths to justify their ideas. They are master rationalizers. They occupy the same space the beltway politicians and thinktankers occupy. Manufacturing hypothesis along the way trying to validate their compromised and failure of a campaign. Just evil being evil, always thinks its smarter than everyone.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve been watching these characters here and in the Beltway for many, many years.
I see. I don’t doubt that claim, but I refuse to accept the claim posited by one doofus I will reserve his name, that the entire reason for the smo was to build or establish such a bridge. Like no other reason, no primary reason other than land bridge. I don’t know which planet some.people are on.
Oops…gonna reply.
I have to ask if you might be a special needs client.
A LAND BRIDGE vs CONSTURCTED BRIDGE are two different types of bridges. Can I offer a comparison?
An aircraft carrier is an airport but one that can be destroyed and/or sunk with resulting difficulty in replacement. A manufactured bridge (let’s say like the Kerch bridge) can AND HAS been destroyed vs a military airfield that can be attacked but realitivley easy to repair.
Jesus, you people are really detached from reality. FFS!
You really are a demented human being out of touch with reality. The Kerch bridge HAS BEEN destroyed? In your lala land dreams maybe. I cannot believe people like you exist. I m thinking its drugs. Your erratic though patterns, inability to think coherently and analysis makes me think you are a child or on drugs
The Kerch bridge was shut down for part of a day by a truck bomb, quite some time ago.
Yes. And it’s still closed to rail traffic. What is your point exactly?
Also this:
https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/03/russia-fears-wagner-troops-may-try-to-blow-up-vital-bridge-to-crimea-19059215/
Hahaha
Every Eastern European country has the potential to start WW3 and should never been allowed to join the North American Terrorist Organisation , article 5 will be the down fall of NATO
Your right. That’s why the US is so involved in E. Europe. The Balkans have been defined as ‘the tinderbox of Europe.’ And, the US is constantly rubbing two sticks together to start another fire for the enrichment of those who benefit from war. Evil is as evil does.
He’s right, with his good looks and US taxpayers wages they’ll get a lot. This war is being mostly financed by our taxes to reap profits for those who benefit from endless wars.
At Vilnius, the Maidan-installed government will finally realize it has been led down the primrose path.