This article has been updated here.
Russia’s Wagner Group has called off its march on Moscow, its leader Yevgeny Prigozhin said on Saturday, agreeing to end a two-day mutiny after the mercenary firm claimed it seized a military base in the city of Rostov-on-Don and began to advance toward the capital.
Prigozhin shared a brief audio statement to social media confirming the decision, saying that the PMC would return to its “field camps” and continue their previous operations in Ukraine “according to plan.”
“They wanted to disband PMC Wagner. On June 23, we went on a ‘March of Justice’ in a day. We advanced on Moscow just 200km short, and during this time we did not shed a single drop of the blood of our fighters,” he said.
Earlier on Saturday, the Wagner chief announced that his troops had captured the Southern Military District headquarters in Rostov, less than one day after accusing the Russian military of launching a missile strike on a Wagner position and vowing to take his complaints directly to the Kremlin. He harshly criticized the leadership of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, demanding his resignation along with the chief of staff of the armed forces, Valery Gerasimov.
While the full extent of the mutiny remains unclear, unverified videos making the rounds online purported to show active clashes between Wagner and Russian regulars. A Reuters correspondent also said they witnessed a military helicopter firing on a mercenary column driving near the city of Voronezh – about halfway to Moscow from Rostov – but noted that the fighters faced little “substantial resistance” on the road.
Earlier, the outlet also cited a Russian source who said Wagner troops had taken military installations in Voronezh, though it was unable to confirm the claim.
Voronezh Governor Alexander Gusev was among a long list of local and regional officials to announce stepped-up security precautions amid Wagner’s march, also stressing that Russians would support President Vladimir Putin. The governor of Rostov, Vasily Golubev, similarly declared his region’s loyalty to the leader.
Prigozhin’s announcement came soon after Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko claimed to have successfully mediated talks with the paramilitary head and Putin, a close ally. Prigozhin did not mention the Belarusian leader in his own remarks, however.
“Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of President Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of the armed men of Wagner in Russia and to take further steps to de-escalate tension,” Lukashenko’s press service said, adding that they “came to agreements on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia.”
The statement said Prigozhin was offered “an advantageous and acceptable option for resolving the situation, with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters,” but did not elaborate further.
Putin delivered a national address on Saturday morning calling the apparent coup attempt a “betrayal.” While he did not cite Prigozhin by name, he said any “internal mutiny” posed a dire threat to national security and the Russian state itself. He added that an anti-terrorist security protocol had been imposed in Moscow, its surrounding region and several other locations.
Will Porter is the assistant news editor of the Libertarian Institute and a staff writer at RT. He co-hosts Conflicts of Interest along with Kyle Anzalone and Connor Freeman.
Prigozhin shared a brief audio statement to social media …
“attention loyal Twitter followers!…”
LOL
Heard he offered to share some of his magnetic personality and a goodly portion of his astronomical ego for the good of Mother Russia, but Putin declined.
Countries at war, rarely – if ever – have large, military mutinies when a war is going well.
Any Putinbot who still claims the war in Ukraine is going well for Russia. Is myopic and/or delusional.
aren’t those Wagner guys mercenaries?
if so then it is not the same as a military mutiny
It was not a mutiny inside the army but it was a mutiny against the government; an attempt of unconstitutional change of power. It is over by now. They had no chance at all. The question only was how many people could be killed.
It is interesting to note that a number of the strongest Putin supporters among the commenters on this site have dropped out of this discussion and seem to have vanished. Are we infiltrated by bots?
Well, Prigozhin IS known for his troll farms …
As are you.
You never miss an opportunity to make a cheap, inaccurate point, do you? Such a charming quirk!’
Prigozhin has been quite open about his activities. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-prigozhin-admits-links-what-us-says-was-election-meddling-troll-farm-2023-02-14/
Fair enough. A cite is always worth some coinage here 😉
I say this reserving the right to doubt anything written by western press as to content.
His own press agency released it.
Then I would be skeptical rather than outright disbelieving 😉
The man is full of himself to a larger than life extent, though his leadership skills are impressive when based on the battlefield. If it stopped there, I could be admiring, but is there independent verifiable evidence that the Russian brass deliberately withheld supplies as he continually asserted, or were Russian staff juggling scarce supplies?
I find his larger than life self-promotion suspicious.
Well, you’re here.
Another old bear post.
Another ad hominem.
Does this old fart, EVER post anything of use?
Thinking of the people who went missing or mostly missing, I doubt they were bots (no programmer with any self-respect would release code as janky as that). More like people who relied on specific sources and couldn’t figure out what to say when those sources — for example, TASS vs. Putin’s spokesperson — started putting up conflicting claims. So they just froze up for lack of non-contradictory narrative to cut-paste.
Bots were the wrong word. I agree with you that the drop outs were folks who couldn’t figure out the Kremlin narrative and didn’t want to take the chance of thinking for themselves.
What would a Microshaft Windblows user like you know about “janky code”?
Must be your Trident Subs that chased them out. Them Putin supporters are scared to death of Trident Subs.
What the hell do you actually know about countries at war? Be specific.
OK. I will. Russia is losing this war and they have a bit of a rebellion problem at home. Good enough for you?
“Russia is losing this war”
Be specific. That’s a headline. Share your expertise on military tactics and strategy so the rest of us can be enlightened.
Losing ground and a coup within Russia. I don’t have to be a military expert to see Russia is in trouble. How about you add something useful instead if yelling at the clouds, gramps?
“attempted coup”
Unsuccessful coup is still a coup…
No it isn’t.
Yes. It is.
Actually, it’s not. Even semantically.
Are you sure you read ALL of the definitions?
Gramps? Yes, that’s literally true. Now what about Pumpkinhead? Nah, I won’t go there, not today 😉
Is that statement on page 25 of intel disinformation manual or page 26?
What the hell do you know?
🤣🤣🤣
Your question was utterly ridiculous.
Seriously.
And I bet you do not even know why.
Have a nice day, Grampa Troll.
“Any Putinbot who still claims the war in Ukraine is going well for Russia. Is myopic and/or delusional.”
Combination of ad hominem and utter ridiculousness.
Let me know when you are up for a serious discussion of the actual historical route taken to the onset of the SMO. Otherwise, you waste time and cheapen the quality of the discussions here which most of the time are serious attempts to understand the forces which start wars.
So instead of even attempting to answer the question, you retaliate with a pathetic accusation?
You are the troll here, retard.
Prigozhin has no chance to win against Putin even with all NATO on his side.
And Putin has no chance to win in Ukraine with the Ukrainian people united against the Russian invasion.
And my mother can beat up your father, etc etc.
Typical old bear response.
Long on ad hominems.
Short on facts or intellect.
Troll 101.
Short on facts or intellect.Uh huh.
And you’ve got no rebuttal because deep down inside you know Putin is washed-up and this war is a trainwreck.
Except that Prigozhin very openly characterized his fighting as being FOR Putin, who he claimed had been lied to and fooled by Shoigu & Co.
Indeed. The man is a bag of seeming self-contradictions. The accomplishments of his people re Bakhmut seem to have been impressive based on reporting, but then he punctuates these accomplishments with very public complaints of a lack of support from Russia’s battlefield staff.
Maybe there is something more personal between him and Shoigu and others. Do you know of past encounters between the two prior to the SMO?
I don’t know of any past encounters of the sort. But look at it from his point of view:
He’s a “self-made man” who created a private military organization which then did the heavy lifting at e.g. Bakhmut.
His constant complaint has been that Shoigu and Company were stabbing his organization in the back by not keeping up with ammo demands and such. He might well perceive that as regular army types being jealous of the success of “mere amateurs,” and also have a chip on his shoulder that they’re still in charge while he feels like he’s the one actually getting things done.
It’s always interesting to muse on just how many major conflicts/events might boil down to personal animosities rather than the real issues.
Indeed. History is replete with personal drama 😉
Prigozhin has some political ambitions. His quarrels with Shoigu and Gerasimov look well planned.
Prigozhin is clever enough not to attack Putin directly but if he succeeded to force Putin to sack Shoigu, it would make Putin weaker and Prigozhin stronger. Next step, nearer to the presidential elections, he could attack Putin directly and try his chance to become the head of the state.
Yeah, he’s so clever his three-day war is going on a year and a half, and his PMC buddy just attempted a coup.
What a masterstroke by the genius Putin!
Does Russia have a chance to win? The best we’ve seen from them is courtesy of Wagner.
So long as NATO has Ukraine’s back.
Russia has virtually no chance.
A child should be able to see that.
But not the Putinbots around here.
Right, and when has occupying a foreign country ever gone well for the invading force in modern times? It’s a disaster!
Now now, no need to soil the site with aspersions that our singular focus is Russia or Putin. The title of the site is Antiwar. A child should be able to discern the inherent purpose of such a website. People often come here convinced they are going to do battle with fans of Russia’s SMO. I cannot speak for people who have been here far longer than I, but I am in fact anti-war, and in the case of Ukraine, I happen to know who set this ball rolling, and it wasn’t Russia because history didn’t begin with the SMO.
I was in the US military during the Vietnam war and I can tell you that not everyone was fooled by the government’s insistence that we had to fight to save America from Communism. Even back then we knew that most of the advertising was bull and the real fight was over control of resources and access.
It still is and in the case of Ukraine, one of the goals is to place the Kremlin within 7.5 minutes of an IRBM missile launch.
You obviously do not know what the term ‘no chance’ means.
The odds are very long.
But he has a chance.
The odds of a major asteroid impact this week are also long.
Are you sure you aren’t just rooting for that coup? It might be useful to contemplate that were Putin overthrown, who replaced him might be from the crowd that wants to bring a full blown war to Ukraine, no holds barred.
I do not think that “you obviously …” means what you seem to think it means.
This whole thing smells funny. Putin allowing Prigozhin to march on Moscow, make demands about military leadership, which are MET, and then leave? I don’t buy it.
Either Prigozhin is incredibly stupid (which I don’t believe he is) and isnabout to be offed … or Putin is a lot weaker than he’d like people to think and is also willing to let it look like Prigozhin forced his hand (which I also don’t believe) … or more is going on. Some have proposed that this was a way to get rid of Shoigu with minimal protest, but he doesn’t have a military background and doesn’t seem to be popular with the rank and file.
You’re right, it smells awfully funny. He’s allowed himself to look weak and thereby weakened his army and nation while at war for its sovereign existence. ?????
Too few ???????????????
What do you mean by “Putin is a lot weaker than he’d like people to think”? To be strong means what? Should he destroy the Wagner troops while they were marching to Moscow? Do you understand that it would mean thousands of Russian militaries killed by other Russian militaries? Such a bloodshed would be a great present to NATO. Putin did everything he could to solve the crisis with the minimum of bloodshed. With the help from Lukashenko he succeeded.
Putin is an old KGB man. I am surprised he hasn’t had Prigozhin assassinated by now.
Maybe because he’s not stupid.
Really, because he looks like an idiot. Especially with his stumbling, bumbling war and today’s fun.
Your right, it would have to be a car accident or an old score to settle by a Wagnerite..
I suspect that Putin has been trying to minimize self-defeating drama, and there are a lot of Wagner fighters whose loyalty could be up for grabs.
Why then thrash out and muddy the waters?
Wagner is loyal to the country and they are good soldiers. Once this crisis is solved, most of them will go back to the front. It was already announced that no one of them will be punished.
Prigozhin used them for his own political ambitions and abused their trust.
Agreed. And it has served Putin’s interests – and Russia’s – that Putin played this as Prigozhin’s gambit and not one of the troops.
Also, Prigozhin May be a useful idiot. Until, he isn’t. If Putin knew he was a real threat, he would’ve sacked him few years ago.
Yes KGB, not CIA.
Why assassinate your most effective military arm? Yes this causes distrust, but really, a subsequent assassination would only exacerbate those problems, and prove prigozhin’s point. Besides, P has been very clear his beef is with incompetent generals, not Putin. This stunt was an attempt to force Putin’s hand in regards to his election of generals, not to overthrow Putin’s power.
Also saying “Putin is an old KGB man” is making a mountain out of a mole Hill. He was chosen to lead Russia after the fall of the Soviet union specifically because he was a nobody (and therefore wouldn’t have any political grudges). Imagine thinking a US president’s past work as a small town sheriff was somehow incredibly informative on his political philosophy and method.
Daddy Longlegs Bush was not only a CIA man, we was the CIA Director.
That’s nice. What’s the point? We were discussing Putin.
Either way this is not gonna end well for the west. Don’t poke the Bear!
Yeah, because today’s theatrics sure gave everyone lots and lots of faith in Russia.
What does faith have to do with it? Faith is the West’s thing.
Okaaaay.
That was the weirdest post I have seen so far today.
You just proved you have no idea what the definition of ‘faith’ is.
Here is a hint:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith
Have a nice day.
Not at all. The entire enterprise run by the old senile guy and his handlers is faith-based.
So Biden is either old and senile or a criminal mastermind with his hand in every nation around the world. Which is it?
Well, I have never asserted his hand is in everything around the world, but based on 40 years following his career, I have formed a pretty solid opinion of his range of talents and his enthusiasm for coups, regime change, and yes, outright warfare, as long as there are no US body bags.
As to the two choices you offer, why not both? Old and senile only needs an ear to be whispered into.
I suspect that by “faith” you mean wishful thinking. Hope based on self-delusion. Neocon self-delusion born of an ideologically-forced denial of reality.
Like you, I was in the military during Viet Nam. It’s been a while, but the years can teach you a thing or two.
I commend you for your “persistence”. I don’t I have the patience.
Putin had this war won before it ever started. Patience is all.
Look, children: a delusional person.
But seriously…are you serious?
Oh don’t forget now – about that rebellion/coup/insurrection on Jan 6th.
See the difference between the two?
Simply put and right on point.
Yeah…whatever you Russian Putinbot.
Like anything you say on this subject is not INCREDIBLY biased.
And thus, almost worthless except to other Putinbots.
No need to shout 😉
Agreed.
My guess is – whatever the motives – it’s somehow connected to Putin trying to extricate himself out of the complete mess he made in Ukraine.
Either Putin is losing control.
Or he is trying to give himself an excuse to pull out of Ukraine (minus Crimea/Donbas).
Too few eithers and ors.
Too few eithers and ors.
“I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.” Sir Winston Churchill, 1939
I can forecast it: total domination by China.
The very model of a modern major-general.
The best is yet to come on this story.
Reuters: “Mutinous Russian mercenary fighters barreled towards Moscow on Saturday after seizing a southern city overnight……”
Wait a minute only typhoons, hurricanes and cyclones “barrel” or “churn”
Prigozhin is himself a force of nature or so I’ve heard…
What did you expect from a propaganda rag like Reuters? Just newsmakers, making news.
Wagner wanted more money and supplies, etc. Keep in mind that Russia had refused to sign a new contract with Wagner and that Wagner isn’t the only PMC in town anymore and from what I understand they stopped Wagner from recruiting in prisons but not the other PMC.
I think Wagner staged what amounted to a semi-fake coup against the military leadership to get paid better and supported better. And they might very well have meant it, they might not have been willing to continue fighting if they didn’t get what they wanted. And it does seem to have been a serious attempt to force a change of leadership of the Military and not directed at Putin.
We will see who stays in power and who goes. Will this lead to the sacking of the two top generals? Will Prigozhin stay in charge? Will he be charged with a crime or will he be retired or perhaps moved to Africa?
Lot’s of questions not many answers. It’s hard to believe that if there were in fact helicopters shot down that Prigozhin will stay out of jail. If he does stay out of jail, then you have to wonder about the reporting in general. It could have been all staged, but again not if there were helicopters shot down and the Russian channels are reporting that part to be true.
I’d say it was mostly about wanting more money, but then I tend to think most things boil down to money.
I think this entirely fake. It only works to Kremlin’s and Wagner advantage.
After clean up of Artemovsk, I imagine Prigozhin made a deal with Putin to stage this little show. Kremlin need to distance themselves from mercs and Wagner need to spread their wings globally. Kremlin gets to annihilate the remaining 5th column and Wagner gets publicity. They did a similar trick with promoting Telegram few years back and all them imperial “intelligence” agencies are still clueless.
This is weird.
And unsettling. 129 intense emotional comments over a situation in which the basic facts are mostly unknown.
All the real action is happening behind the scenes. We will likely never know what “really happened”.
Presumably this will lead to something dramatic happening in the next few days. On the other hand, it would not surprise me if after a week or two the front line changes are no more than a few kilometers one way or the other.
This wokeness of yours is missing in the imperial “intelligence” agencies.
Hey, almost breaking news posted to AntiWar.com!
Snark aside, I find it telling that Prigozhin has been granted exile in Belarus in exchange for Wagner stepping down. Strange outcome. If Prigozhin was truly the figurehead of Wagner that many say he was, maybe this makes some kind of sense, but I’m still puzzled. No resolution about the supposed aircraft that were shot down by Wagner. Who knows what the real story was there.
The Wagner troops will be given the opportunity to fight for Russia directly, and Wagner itself will be no more.
I expect that Prigozhin’s days are numbered, and that the number is very low. As historical analogs go, this was basically SA vs. SS, with Prigozhin as Rohm to Shoigu’s Himmler.
It was the SA vs the Wermacht. Roehm wanted to make the SA the predominant German military organization/force. When Hitler decided to go with the military, and forego a possible SA rebellion, he ordered Himmler to purge the SA leadership – Night of the Long Knives.
Nah, Prigozhin will be fine. He followed the script, after all. Nice retirement party is all.
Mutinies are a sign of a demoralized and defeated army. Russia lost the war over a year ago when Ukrainians united in opposition to the foreign invasion. In the long run asymmetric wars are decided by hearts and minds not force of arms.It doesn’t matter if the Ukrainian army can’t break through the Russian defensive lines. The Ukrainian counteroffensive is making it impossible for Russia to provide security or stability in the occupied territories.
Russia is hunkered down in defensive positions but unable to lift martial law or to provide security to rebuild civil society in the occupied allegedly annexed territories. Russia cannot pacify any part of Ukraine. Even if the Russian army could defeat the Ukrainian army, the Russians will be unable to defeat the Ukrainian resistance or to lift martial law or to establish peace in the occupied territories. It doesn’t matter whether Russia or Ukraine destroyed the Kakhovka Dam. The burst of the dam in Russian occupied territory was proof of the failure of the Russian forces to pacify and provide security for Kherson.
Prigozhin is no friend of Ukraine. But he understands that Russia is losing and needs to change course. That recognition will spread through Russia’s military, it’s population and eventually reach into the oligarchy. The Russians may escalate before they withdraw, like Nixon did in Vietnam. But the end is certain. Escalation will only intensify the Ukrainian resistance. I just can’t predict how long it will take for Russia to get a leadership pragmatic enough to end Putin’s folly by withdrawing from Ukraine.
It is unlikely that Prigozhin’s coup will succeed. And it is possible that he won’t survive Putin’s revenge. But I suspect Prigozhin’s rebellion may be a cathartic event like the 1968 Tet offensive that turns a country’s people decisively against a futile and unjust imperial war.
It’s over already. That was not good optics for any of them.
Lukashenko offered to Prigozhin the refuge in Belarus and Prigozhin accepted.
That’s certainly what it looks like based on press reports from the past 24 hours.
Mercenaries are unreliable at best and can be bought … this may have been what happened here.
Russia will continue to grind Ukraine as needed and, when the west gets tired of the money sink, will arrive at a useful truce that meets Russia’s security needs. It may take a few more months or a few more years, but the end is inevitable.
As I’ve explained to you before, Ukraine is not Vietnam to Russia, it’s like Canada to the US. Russia will not allow it to be a source of instability to itself, whatever it takes.
No. Kazakhstan is like Canada to Russia. Ukraine to Russia is like England to US.
With a little exception that Russia didn’t need to fight Ukraine for independence. The Great Rus (Belarus, Russia, Ukraine) remained united up until Uncle Shame raped Ukraine and pumped her full of drugs.
Delusional
It’s just regurgitation of mainstream propaganda talking points. I don’t believe he even knows what he is writing. It’s probably copy and paste from some English or American propaganda rag.
Your schtick smells like yesterday’s fish. What Prigozhin does or does not realize is something of which you have absolutely no personal knowledge. Most of what you write here is adolescent wishful thinking via projection.
Try posting something that you have some personal knowledge of and thereby contribute to the overall discussion.
Ad hominem
That’s all old bear has got.
actual bears have better arguments.
I know a few actual bears (as the ones who live in the real woods), and am inclined to agree, if we’re talking about strategy, self-defense, and a natural inclination to avoid human contact.
Characterizing what someone wrote is not an ad hominem. It is a reaction to what was written. I will stand by my statement that the poster has no idea what is or was on Prigozhin’s mind as well.
I suppose you can view the characterization of adolescence as an ad hominem one, but I call that poetic license.
Oh, so the standard is “personal knowledge” for posting. You usually comment after pulling your thumb out of your ass.
You tankies are doing major mental gymnastics to spin this coup. You know you were clutching your pearls last night when this started and now you posting like some Monday Morning QB!
Rational thinker. Could you supply something past 8th grade level for that title?
Quote me where I demonstrated pearl clutching re this scene last night or today or shut your hole.
And learn to spell for Christ’s sake.
You do know what rational implies, right?
You kept your head down all last night and now you think you have a handle on what’s going on. BTW, pointing out a spelling error (now fixed) is the best “tell” for someone losing an argument.
“head down”? – this isn’t the only place to comment on the news.
Sure thing, tankie.
YOu bet, jerk.
Walking pneumonia will do that to a person.
Since all you have to offer is insult, I’ll say bye.
You are pissed because he insulted you?
I seriously can think of no one on here who insults others more than you do.
Can you spell ‘hypocrite’?
Are you having a Sad?
Don’t be sad, you didn’t get the fantasy outcome.
It’s hard to know if this was real or just the Russians messing with the heads of Ukrainians and Americans. It must have given US neocons wet dreams to think there was actually a coup going on in Russia. Turns out it was a big nothingburger.
Definitely it was real.
It was real, the Russian FSB has been working over time the last few days, arresting British/Ukrainian agents and traitors in Moscow.
Perhaps the mutiny was coordinated from abroad but certainly most of Wagner men were involved in it by cheating. Last five months Prigozhin was busy with defamation of the ministry of defense accusing the minister and the chief of the general staff of corruption, sabotage of the military efforts and incompetence. It looks, his men believed him. Probably, he hoped he can force Putin to sack the minister. Also he expected a greater support inside Russian society. Of course US leadership knew about all that and could contribute to the mess even without informing Prigozhin that they are going to help him.
It was a British attempt to overthrow Putin using Wagner and sleepers in Moscow. Prigozhin has shown himself to be a traitor to the Russian people, and the Russian people were spitting on Wagner troops.
It will be interesting to see what action Moscow takes against the UK. Declaration of war, incoming missile strikes? Are the British people aware of the danger they are in?
Also it appears that Ukrainian mercenary units attacked Belarus with British sleeper cells there, Lukashenko has the right to declare war too.
It would appear that the Russian FSB was on top of it all but the failed attempt has seriously damaged Britain and NATO. There is no way back from this, its now a world war.
So this is was run out of London.
Okaaaay.
Do you have a shred of evidence to back that up with a link to an UNBIASED website?
Or is your tinfoil hat on a little too tight?
I am guessing that latter.
Are you aware of any unbiased websites which claim to be news sources? Most these days are a mix of reportage and editorializing, intimately mixed together.
I’ve only seen one or two sites which have a component which reports: “Today this occurred, or this person said, or a government released its report on….”. But even those sites have opinion pieces. The better ones let you know which is which.
You can take or leave what i say i really dont care. btw the tinfoil hat is suitable to be worn on all heads. One size fits all just saying.
I think the Brits have a lot in common with the Poles.
“Last five months Prigozhin was busy with defamation of the ministry of defense accusing the minister and the chief of the general staff of corruption, sabotage of the military efforts and incompetence.”
Which is the closest thing to circumstantial evidence that he was working either for Putin, or on Putin’s behalf even if not onPutin’s explicit orders.
Someone is going to end up taking the rap for the invasion of Ukraine turning into an epic goat-fuck. Putin would presumably rather it be Shoigu and Co. than himself.
I think you’re spot on, Thomas. Of course, to acknowledge that, one has to be willing to acknowledge that the invasion is in fact an epic goat-fuck.
What Prigozhin said was egregiously incorrect as can be seen by events on the ground. He was lying one can only guess at his motives. I know Prigozhin was in a dispute with the Russian MOD over renewal of the Wagner contract.
The senior leaders in the front line were accusing him of treason and advising Wagner to stand down. Putin himself called him a traitor.
Nothing has changed with regard to the SMO, Britain overplayed its hand and lost.
It definitely was a real attention-getter for Prigozhin.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a coup by ultra hard liners. None of this is good for Ukraine or the west. Putin could have ended this conflict in a week but refuses to do so. Ultra hardliners launch a coup, Putin flees and then the gloves really come off and this war escalates.
The last time there was a major coup attempt in Russia, it didn’t go as the coup planners planned. It’s not obvious that it would this time either.
Sometimes better the Devil you know….
Sadly, you may be right. Or, the CIA takes advantage of this opportunity, just like what they did in 2014 with sharpshooters firing at both sides in Maidan Square..
I sincerely doubt that Prigozhin is a friend of the West or Ukraine. It seems his beef with Moscow is more regarding tactics than overall strategy.
Yes but ending the puppet regime in Kiev will not end the war with Anglo-American empire. They needed to commit the empire on every level to the trap in Ukraine.
The basic argument between hardliners and softliners in Kremlin is on how to kill the United Snakes. Hardliners argue for direct kill and solfliners for a prolonged bleeding of the empire.
It is entirely possible this was staged. Often times, the hungry cockroaches get exposed if you leave a small food on the floor.
LOL
I suspected this setup since Pregogin’s flamboyant demand for munitions.
Nothing burger?
Rebel forces – supposedly – take control of the main supply depot for the Ukrainian war at Rostov-On-Don?
And you call that a ‘nothing burger’?
Okaaaaay.
You Putinbots just cannot stop spinning.
I suppose when Putin dies?
You will just say he ‘No…he’s not dead. He’s just resting’
A coup that is over within hours with no one killed is definitely a nothingburger.
I wouldn’t say it was a nothingburger. It got imperial propaganda spinning and spitting and it likely flushed out many CIA assets in Russia.
It will be interesting to see the entire fallout from this but this is a great way to focus imperial propaganda machine on regime change hopes in Russia and away from clean up op in Ukraine. Another apparent benefit for Kremlin is tighter control over civil society. They can use this as pretext for more censorship and control. Financial transactions and flow of resources to Russia for regime change operations will also likely to increase and Kremlin can now simply redirect this wealth for more constructive projects.
On a another note, if this was staged, how convenient for Prigozhin to camp out in Belarus to keep an eye out for signs of weakness or color coup against Lukashenko.
Moscow should cede territory to the Wagner Group. Some people might think that an invasion by a shadow army against a sovereign country is unjust, but Prigozhin was provoked so therefore his invasion is just and noble!
The regime change crowd shot at the king and missed. They tried a Maidan, and failed. They went far past any possible red lines.
Now, a price will be exacted.
First, Putin’s popularity, already high, will soar. Then, the war will take on a new violence, without compromise.
This has gone from bad to hideously ugly. Thanks Victoria Nuland. She did this.
This is how the Russians will see it, and for all that matters, their viewpoint is all that counts.
Churchill’s famous description of Russia as “a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma,” so don’t try and armchair any analysis. Here’s a very good article that isn’t propaganda from Reason. https://reason.com/2023/06/26/anticlimactic-end-to-wagner-groups-armed-rebellion-in-russia/