NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Monday that NATO will not offer a formal invitation to Ukraine to join the alliance at the upcoming summit in Vilnius that will be held from July 11-12.
“At the Vilnius Summit and in the preparations for the Summit, we’re not discussing to issue a formal invitation,” Stoltenberg said at a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin.
Stoltenberg said the alliance was looking to bring Ukraine closer but did not specify what new commitments NATO might offer. “What we are discussing is how to move Ukraine closer to NATO, and the ongoing consultations. I’m not in a position to preempt the outcome of those consultations,” he said.
Both Stoltenberg and Scholz reaffirmed the promise given to Ukraine at the 2008 Bucharest summit that it would eventually become a member without a clear timeline. “The Bucharest decision remains, and we need to focus on the task at hand. We need to support Ukraine to defend its country’s integrity and sovereignty,” Scholz said.
While most NATO members agree Ukraine can’t join the alliance while it’s fighting a war with Russia, they are expected to announce some sort of new support for Kyiv. Whatever steps NATO takes to commit long-term support for Ukraine will serve to prolong the war, as one of Russia’s main motives for invading was Kyiv’s alignment with the Western military alliance.
Last week, media reports said President Biden was “open” to making it easier for Ukraine to join NATO in the future by waiving the Membership Action Plan (MAP), which requires military and democratic reforms before a determination on membership can be made. But in comments on Saturday, the president indicated that he did not support the idea.
“They got to meet the same standards. So I’m not going to make it easier,” Biden said. “I think they’ve done everything relating to demonstrating the ability to coordinate militarily, but there’s a whole issue of: Is their system secure? Is it non-corrupt? Does it meet all the standards every other nation in NATO does?”
Wow, Nato has such high standards….Inhale…..
Oh, the poor Ukrainians … they are being so used …
Taiwanese, please take note.
Biden tells Ukraine no NATO membership? Blinken tells China the US doesn’t support Taiwan’s independence? …Run before it’s late. …Where? …Clearly not the US, England, west or east Europe. They like to read your stories but don’t want you as refugees. …What’s that? You don’t want to die. …Ok, you can send a letter to Victoria Nuland and tell her. She will take care of not caring for you. …You’re asking if she said f*ck the EU. Haha, nice, she meant she would love you in Europe to get f*cked in a proxy war for “freedom and democracy.” (Sarcasm alert)
Who cares about their invitations?
True, Ukraine, cannon fodder, does not count in this war, it is all about the USA v. Russia.
It is USA empire against those who don’t agree with USA hegemony. At the moment US has a military confrontation with Russia but other countries who don’t accept American dictate understand that they could be next.
Those of us who would prefer to avoid thermonuclear war …?
The decision to start a nuclear war can depend only upon the balance of military powers and chances to win the war. Membership or not membership doesn’t matter.
Disposition of Ukraine is said to be Russia’s “brightest of red lines” … if Ukraine would be added to NATO, then Russia’s red line would be irrevocably crossed. Thus, there would need to be a war between Russia and NATO, which would quickly devolve to nuclear as soon as one side started losing.
NATO considering sending troops to Ukraine even without Ukraine being a member of NATO. If they decide to accept Ukraine into NATO, practically, it will change nothing because the war is already there and NATO, if it can and wish, may escalate it’s involvement in the war anyway.
Ukraine won’t be part of NATO; Putin just got the response his nation went to war over.
After this offensive fails, Ukraine and Biden will not be in a position to continue this war.
Actually, what anyone, including Stoltenberg, says is meaningless, it spoils fast and must be replaced.
So …..even if NATO shares it isn’t happening your paranoia knows different?
Somehow after weeks of them sharing it won’t happen, they’ll just give them “assurances” and other diplo-speak that is meaningless they invite them in just after they lose more ground in the failed offensive?
Sure….. .
Several towns have been liberated by Ukraine. You keep going all “Baghdad Bob” you’re gonna be crushed when they have a breakthrough.
Perhaps you need a reality check?
Peruse Judge Napolitano’s youtube channel and get back to me about how it is going.
Hahaha. Sure. Napolitano. A real war correspondent!
It’s his guests and their resumes that is what is important. I know anything that is contrary to what CNN or Fox news shares to you likely scares you but Ukraine is not winning this and are approaching a 50% casulaty rate.
Russia’s? How big is their army? What % is even in Ukraine right now?
If Russia was advancing, THEY would be telling the world. They’re losing ground (albeit slowly) and the only shining moments Russia is having now is with their attack helicopters. They have been very effective.
It’s OK if you want to soothe yourself with “friendly” news sources. However, you will be disappointed when they prove to be wrong and your emotions will be crushed.
And I’m sure your media sources would share those advances with you.
BTW….
NATO membership is out.
If they were winning yesterday’s announcement would not have been NO!
It is NO right now. They WILL be allowed in after this war.
Sure they will….
They’re losing ground (albeit slowly)
And Ukraine is gaining ground,, Burial ground and at amazing speed!
By “towns” he means barns…
Putin didn’t go to war over the prospect of Ukraine becoming part of NATO, because he knew there was never any chance whatsoever Ukraine would become part of NATO over his objections.
It’s one of his talking points now, whatever was his reasons for going in not withstanding.
He has shared in many ways that Ukrainian membership is a big issue with him and this declaration was made with that in mind.
Quibbling over what we perceive as his reasons over 2 years ago does not negate what is important now.
Nothing remains static except perhaps in comment sections.
Well, yes, it was and is one of his talking points.
But since there was never any chance whatsoever that Ukraine could become a NATO member without his permission, it follows that the possibility of Ukraine becoming a NATO member was not among the actual reasons he went to war.
Then it’s a throw away that will be hyped as if Putin obtained a concession inthe upcoming negatiations.
If it was not important then the Secretary General would not have shared that.
Just because it was never going to happen does not mean NATO and their “freindship” in the future does not matter but is one of many things that do.
Nothing, absolutely not one single reason, ever drives something like this (except in comment sections) so please don’t play this as if I’m claiming NATO membership is anything but one of many reasons (that change with time) that is driving/causing this war today.
And just how do you know what he knew?… You’re sooooo full of shite. Did ya know that?
I predict…. NATO will be pert of Russia at the rnd on the day. Who knows – maybe North America too! 👍🇷🇺
https://www.indianpunchline.com/biden-walks-back-on-ukraines-nato-accession/
Biden Walks Back On Ukraine’s NATO Accession.
“Does it meet the standard every other nation in NATO does (except for some reason turkey, who we all think is a terrible nation that’s genociding Kurds, but they’re allowed in because… look a spy ballon!)”
Zelensky already said he wouldn’t go to your party if you didn’t give him more stuff, so what’s the big deal? If he’s not invited, he shouldn’t be there anyway.
They make Zelelensky, a none NATO member, feel good as long as he delivers the cannon fodder.
Put simply if Ukraine joins NATO WW3 is GUARANTEED Zelensky will waste no time in provoking Russia to get the ball rolling , just imagine if Stolenburg had said Ukraine would not be joining NATO 4 years ago there would have been no war RIGHT ?.
No, it is not right. If Stoltenberg starts talking like that, they will sack him and put in his place an other clown.
But Stoltenberg is a powerless NATO mouthpiece, he is in it for the money. A man without decency.
Apparently these people didn’t get the memo. Russia will not permit NATO on its border. As evidenced by the current campaign. All that NATO talk causes war, not prevents it.
https://www.worldatlas.com/upload/e1/12/cf/fi-01.jpg
Who’s gonna tell him?
“Russia will not permit NATO on its border.”
That ship sailed in 2004 with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Now Finland’s adding 800 miles to the NATO/Russian border.
Biden’s got the same problem LBJ had in Vietnam. He jumped on the back of the tiger and thought it was just another rodeo. But soon LBJ found himself holding on for dear life to the tail of the tiger. We have learned nothing by our defeat in Vietnam. We will leave Ukraine just like we left Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. and wash our hands of it.
NATO would be INSANE to offer full citizenship to Ukraine right now.
And NATO should wait and see what Ukraine looks like post-war before they decide whether or not to invite them in.
So I see nothing wrong with NATO’s actions in this particular regard.
BTW – I think NATO should have been abolished right after the Cold War ended.
This sounds to me like “Sorry, we want to help more, but we may not be able to extend our enhanced help until you make the required changes which are being negotiated now and in the future”. Good luck with your application…” or BLAW BLAW BLAW BLAH….. Blaah Blawh, Blahw…..
This is a total humiliation for US/NATO. Months of planning, billions spent, massive training and equipping campaigns and in 2 weeks its over with a massive defeat to Ukraine? NATO couldn’t get past the first line of defense.
US/NATO overall has accumulated the following equipment losses;
444 Aircraft, 240 helicopters, 4713 UAV’s, 426Anti Aircraft systems, 10222 tanks inc. APC’s, 1126 multiple rocket launchers, 5175 rocket launchers and 11066 military automotive equipment.
At the May 9th Victory Day Parade Vladimir Putin has included the De-occupation of Ukraine as an objective of the SMO. The SMO now will achieve De-Nazification, Demilitarisation and De-Occupation of Ukraine.
The NATO summit in Vilnius will be very interesting. They are literal parasites eating their host countries.
Belarusian militants are being trained in Polish territory, the city of Poznan, in preparation for a future insurrection in their country. Another NATO war of aggression, the supreme international crime.
The Poles had been participating actively in the formation of death squads in Ukraine since September 2013. Also there is substantial evidence that the Right Sector militants were trained by Donald Tusk’s government in Poland two months in advance of what was obviously a pre-planned coup in Kiev.
The Polish press even published the role of Donald Tusk’s government in preparing the coup where the Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski invited 86 members of the Right Sector to the police training center in Legionowo. There, they received four weeks of intensive training in crowd management, person recognition, combat tactics, command skills, behavior in crisis situations, protection against gases used by police, erecting barricades, and shooting, including the handling of sniper rifles.
Donald Tusk, who is now President of the European Council, whose grandfather, Josef Tusk, served in Hitler’s Wehrmacht, has consistently demanded that the Kiev regime imposed by the US and EU deal with the Donbass people brutally, “as with terrorists”.
While the Polish special services were training the future participants of the Maidan operations and the ethnic cleansing of the Donbass, the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs made this official statement (02-02-2014): “We support the hard line taken by the Right Sector… The radical actions of the Right Sector and other militant groups of demonstrators and the use of force by protestors are justified… The Right Sector has taken full responsibility for all the acts of violence during the recent protests. This is an honest position, and we respect it. The politicians have failed at their peacekeeping function. This means that the only acceptable option is the radical actions of the Right Sector. There is no other alternative”.
In this statement by the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs we can see that the Polish government (NATO) is using violence (radical actions) as a means of ensuring the Ukrainian politicians fail in their peace keeping functions.
In Ukraine we can clearly see the role assigned by NATO to Poland in Ukraine. To overthrow the government of its neighbour state, Poland resorted to neo-Nazi activists in the same way that NATO Turkey used Al-Qaeda (Al Nusra Front) to overthrow the Syrian government.
Since June 4, the AFU has launched 263 attacks on the positions of Russian troops. After two weeks the Ukrainian attacks have resulted in the following losses of the AFU:
9,600 servicemen casualties
373 armoured vehicles, including US-made Bradleys, HMMWVs and British Strykers
172 tanks, including German Leopards and French AMX-10s
146 artillery systems, including Polish Krabs, German PzH 2000s, French Caezars, US-made M109s and M777
15 warplanes and helicopters
198 UAVs