The US will focus its efforts on arming Ukraine and not attempting to bring the war to a negotiated settlement, America’s top diplomat said. Secretary of State Antony Blinken laid out a plan to massively expand Kiev’s military before talks begin.
In a speech delivered in Finland on Friday, Blinken stated, "The United States – together with our allies and partners – is firmly committed to supporting Ukraine’s defense today, tomorrow, for as long as it takes." He continued, "We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression."
Blinken dismissed the idea of even a temporary pause in the fighting. "Some countries will call for a ceasefire. And on the surface, that sounds sensible – attractive, even. After all, who doesn’t want warring parties to lay down their arms? Who doesn’t want the killing to stop?" He said. "But a ceasefire that simply freezes current lines in place and enables Putin to consolidate control over the territory he’s seized…It would legitimize Russia’s land grab. It would reward the aggressor and punish the victim."
The Secretary of State offered an ambitious vision of Kiev’s future military capabilities. "America and our allies are helping meet Ukraine’s needs on the current battlefield while developing a force that can deter and defend against aggression for years to come." He added, "That means helping build a Ukrainian military of the future, with long-term funding, a strong air force centered on modern combat aircraft, an integrated air and missile defense network, advanced tanks and armored vehicles, national capacity to produce ammunition, and the training and support to keep forces and equipment combat-ready."
It is unclear how long it would take to build the deterrence force envisioned by Blinken. American arms stockpiles are dwindling as Washington attempts to transfer Kiev enough military equipment to keep its army fighting. The US additionally has plans to significantly increase arms transfers to Taiwan.
Blinken claimed, "Our support for Ukraine hasn’t weakened our capabilities to meet potential threats from China or anywhere else – it’s strengthened them." In November, the Wall Street Journal reported, "US government and congressional officials fear the conflict in Ukraine is exacerbating a nearly $19 billion backlog of weapons bound for Taiwan, further delaying efforts to arm the island."
Additionally, the White House may not have the support it needs in the Capitol for such a massive military buildup in Ukraine. Blinken asserted that "in America, this support is bipartisan." However, at the beginning of May, Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said future support for Ukraine would be contingent on success in Kiev’s long-planned counteroffensive.
Since McCaul’s statement, Ukraine has slowly lost more territory to Russian forces, including Bakhmut. Zelensky committed endless resources to the city in a months-long battle despite the advice from his Western backers. The White House is now preparing for the counteroffensive to fail.
Washington’s strategy, as laid out by Blinken, calls for arming Ukraine and weakening Russia. "Russia is significantly worse off today than it was before its full-scale invasion of Ukraine – militarily, economically, geopolitically," he stated, adding, "President Putin has diminished Russian influence on every continent."
However, Gen. Christopher Cavoli, the commander of US European Command, told Congress in April that Moscow’s ground forces are "bigger today" than before Moscow launched its invasion of Ukraine last year.
While the White House has attempted to isolate the Kremlin, Moscow has weathered Western sanctions by developing relationships in the global south. On Friday, Russian officials met with prospective members of the BRICS coalition, including Saudi Arabia, Iran and the UAE. In September, Iran’s President Ebrahim Raisi said in a meeting with Putin, "The relationship between countries that are sanctioned by the US, such as Iran, Russia or other countries, can overcome many problems and issues and make them stronger."
Blinken justified the Biden administration’s commitment to a militaristic approach by claiming the White House attempted to engage the Kremlin in meaningful diplomacy before the invasion of Ukraine. "President Biden told President Putin that we were prepared to discuss our mutual security concerns – a message that I reaffirmed repeatedly – including in person, with Foreign Minister Lavrov." The Secretary of State continued, "We offered written proposals to reduce tensions. Together with our allies and partners, we used every forum to try to prevent war, from the NATO-Russia Council to the OSCE, from the UN to our direct channels."
In April 2022, Biden administration official Derek Chollet admitted that the White House refused to negotiate with the Kremin on Putin’s core concern, Ukraine becoming a member of NATO. "We made clear to the Russians that we were willing to talk to them on issues that we thought were genuine concerns," Chollet said, adding that the administration didn’t think that "the future of Ukraine" was one of those issues and that its potential NATO membership was a "non-issue."
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
Peace is for the civil, NATO/Ukraine are not civil. And Russia is playing footies with peace instead of going full on Barbarossa on Ukraine. Basically once we have WW3, it will restore peace and civility for a 1000 years.
Ah, an optimist…
LOL
Dude or madam, whoever the heck you are, stop feeding the WW3 BS. It wont happen.
Stop spreading fear.
What do you think is happening now? Like in Vietnam , we first had advisors and provided arms. Then we secretly inserted military personel, and as things got worse, full blown invasion, sabotage, false flags, snd attacking all neighboring countries for assisting resistance to US invasion. Why was it necessary? Because US thought it was most important not to back down.
Looking at the same false logic. In the end it did not make a difference who controls Vietnam, and it does not matter who controls Ukraine. Just as North-South Vietnamese sorted it out among themselves, Russians and Ukrainians could have sorted it among themselves if we left them alone.
But no, we poked and poked until a suitable person got elected in Ukraine to go full blast into ethnic conflict and pushing Russia into protecting population and to prevent future threats by NATO esconcing itself in Ukraine.
So, what did we accomplish? We are testing Russia‘s resolve to the last Ukrainian.
And daily courting escallation.
We are pushing for war, and NORMALIZING it by
a) lowering the sense of danger, and
b) daily hyping Ukrainian success. CNN daily claim Ukrainians are still fighting “near Bakhmut”. What is near?
Most global news have more gravitas,
refrain from cheerleading. We should learn something from them.
And got somebody elected in the United Snakes who was willing enough to “ weaken Russia” as well, Bianca.
You do not “dismiss” unless others are asking for a ceasefire.
The coalition is cracking.
After this summer’s fighting let’s see how ready Ukraine will be after they lose some more territory.
They will not lose more territory but will regain instead. The only thing that will happen after this summer is that we’ll know how full of sh!t you are.
We already know how full of it you are.
wishful thinking, but it will never happen. The US and NATO are gutless, and are only strong when picking on weaker countries. Russia has not even began to get tough, but it will now.
So Donny after this is all over are you going to apoligize to every one on this website you name-called and abused with your inanities?
Julio tends to think if you believe it, it makes it so.
Julio tends to think if you believe it, it makes it so.
Julio down at the schoolyard looking for more bs propaganda.
I too always think of that tune when I see his name.
The Ukrainians were ready for peace over a year ago. The west wasn’t, so they sent Boris The Clown to sabotage the peace negotiations. The west doesn’t care about Ukrainian sovereignty or the lives of the Ukrainian people, whether soldiers or civilians. The west wants Russia destroyed, and they will tell any lie or do any dirty deed to see it happen.
More recently, a representative from Israel attempted to broker a peace. He said that the U. S. stopped it.
They have to keep Victoria Nuland’s dream alive. She’s just a small town girl with a dream. A dream to destroy the Russian Federation.
My question, Johnny, is WHY does the United Snakes require other nations to be “weakened “?
Isn’t it in the best interest of every nation to stop spending money on their military capabilities in order that they be able to provide for their citizens? Wouldn’t that inspire a more peaceful world? Or does Amerikkka want certain nations to be weak because we don’t “like them”?
( I believe I just answered my own question.)
Laying down arms and denouncing threats will lead to a more prosperous planet, and what nation doesn’t deserve to prosper?
The exception, of course, is Apartheid Israhell, and Amerikkka makes damn sure that THEY prosper.
Good questions, Gypsy. I think that the United States wants to be the world’s permanent hegemon in order to use the entire world to serve the interests of the elite who govern there. And anyone who resists by asserting their own sovereignty will be severely dealt with. It’s a shame that the citizens of the United States don’t rise up and throw their leaders out. It’s really their responsibility to do so, for their sake and for the rest of the world.
Johnny, I’m currently reading “America: the Farewell Tour” by Chris Hedges. He makes the point that sometimes we must set aside our ideological differences and “agitate” one another in order to rise up and confront the status quo.
He’s correct, of course. None of us will ever think exactly the same, but still we recognize that the current state of affairs is untenable.
The people in power know that once the current older generation dies off, they’ll be clear sailing for the elites as they have been indoctrinating the rubes at an early age, knowing that moving forward, there won’t be any resistance to speak of. Throw in millions of illegals from third world countries all over the world changing the culture and demographics of the country, and what you have is a dumbed down controlled society that will “love its servitude”.
Johnny, I’m currently reading “America: the Farewell Tour” by Chris Hedges. He makes the point that sometimes we must set aside our ideological differences and “agitate” one another in order to rise up and confront the status quo.
He’s correct, of course. None of us will ever think exactly the same, but still we recognize that the current state of affairs is untenable.
Hitler dreamt of a thousand year reich. What a bizarre thing to espouse at the time….well not to the united snakes. They have their own thousand year reich marching on unhindered throughout the ages. Its called the roman empire or roman reich if you will. Israel and others like it are historically origins lands but ultimately just another outpost.
As I recall, Judaea was the last Roman outpost. Their conquest and destruction of Israel destroyed their entire empire.
It was an early conquest.
For some reason I thought it was Israel… What was their last successful conquest and occupation? Brittania?
dont understand what you are trying to say.
I was replying to Gypsy33 remark about why the US needs others weakened and was alluding to iy being an iteration of the Roman Empire still sauntering on. Something that greatly attracted the fuhrer and had in mind when he suggested a thousand year reich. The idea is the US hegemon is the step something of the Roman Empire still active.
The answer is very simple. They need others to be weaker because they need others as slaves, not partners. This isn’t just imperial parasites who think like that. Such zerosum mindset is pervasive in the entire Saxon (and by extension, anglosaxon) ethnic group.
I believe you’re right, Ivan. You’ll recall that at one time “ The sun never set on the British Empire”.
That sun’s done set now, lol.
US foreign policy in a nutshell since the end of WW2. That the US will be the sole global superpower on the planet and to rule the planet, you control the world’s monetary system (US dollar hegemony) and back it up with the most powerful military force in the world. That means you cannot tolerate or allow any country or bloc of countries to rise and challenge you in finance, economics, military, and technology. Also, you must not allow any regional hegemons. The US wants to rule the planet forever and ever so any country that rises needs to be weakened or destroyed. The US wants to make sure the rest of the world are weak so that the US remains strong and can bully and control anyone and everyone. If the world is dependent on you for money, food, military, and technology, the world becomes your slave / vassal.
The USA is really the first true global empire of it’s kind in history. They want to dominate and control the entire planet, that’s why.
I think that was Naftali Bennett that told this.
I get your point, Russia has not asked for a ceasefire, but given what Blinkin said:
Would you not report this as dismissing any potential future calls for a ceasefire?
I can’t say that I see the signs that the coalition is cracking, sure the sanctions are also taking a toll on European, Chinese, Japanese and South Korean economies – but so far the coalition is as far as I can see only committing more to the cause – what is your evidence for it cracking?
Lastly if the Ukrainians lose more territory than they gain over the summer, then I think you would or at least could very well be right that they would be more prepared to negotiate a ceasefire – after all sanctions would continue to weaken the Russian economy while the west would likely continue to build up the Ukrainian defense forces.
I’m less certain that the Russians would ask for a ceasefire or be willing to accept one, as the Ukrainians could not offer one that included a pause to the sanctions, a demand that Lavrov was very adamant to have included in the peace talks a year ago.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lifting-sanctions-against-russia-part-peace-talks-with-ukraine-lavrov-2022-04-30/
A ceasefire waits until Ukraine retakes its territory back….
Sure, we will just wait and wait and wait some more.
That coalition that has cracked to the point where if they fail to accomplish anything this summer it won’t make it till the 2024 Spring offensive that won’t accomplish a thing like this year’s failed one that is now a summer offensive that likely won’t ever start either. France and Germany isn’t talking to the Chinese because they want some takeout but that isn’t a “crack” is it?.
But we will wait for them to retake their territory before a ceasefire is possible because that would reward the aggressor….lol.
Perhaps the 2026 spring offensive will work? I’m sure the coalition will hold until then because we don’t want to reward the aggressor, do we?
Impatient much? The Ukrainians already took back very significant parts of the occupied territories in late 2022 and have made net gains about every month since then.
Well the winter offensive of the Russians achieved close to nothing – that could mean that we have seen them take it as far as they can. There was no spring offensive as spring continued to be mud season until mid may, by which time the Ukrainians had storm shadow i.e. the capacity to shape the battle space much beyond the 70 km limit they had until then.
Asking them them to start the offensive before they have soften up the Russians using this new range is demanding them to be as wasteful with their soldiers as the Russians are.
It will/would be if it meant that they were about to lift sanctions, but France has just joined the countries training Ukrainian pilots – not exactly a sign that they are trying to back out.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/05/16/france-paves-way-to-training-of-ukrainian-pilots_6026868_7.html
While Germany’s foreign minister has just stated: “Putin’s arrest for The Hague is legal, international law is clear“https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/2/7405076/
Not exactly signs that they are trying to leave the coalition either is it?
The actual quote is:
Which is what I have been saying for quite a while, while your quote reads very different, perhaps that is the reason for the ‘lol’?
Sanctions will easily last beyond 2026, because if they do not and Russia has annexed Ukrainian territory then ending them will reward the aggressor – i.e. there were sanctions on Russia over Crimea lifting sanctions while Russia occupies even more Ukrainian territory would reward the SMO.
It would demonstrate to e.g. Xi that since China is much more important to the world economy they would face even less long lasting sanctions for taking Taiwan and hence make that a much more attractive option.
While the Chinese would be engaged in taking Taiwan other smaller players could execute their own SMO on their neighbors, as there would be no capacity to deal with them while the Chinese were taking Taiwan an issue that would at the very least be disrupting all IT supply chains and thus paralyzing to the ability of the west to sustain any effort, before they have home sourced the chips they currently buy from Taiwan.
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A ceasefire waits until Ukraine retakes its territory back….
Sure, we will just wait and wait and wait some more.
Impatient much? The Ukrainians already took back very significant parts of the occupied territories in late 2022 and have made net gains about every month since then.
That coalition that has cracked to the point where if they fail to accomplish anything this summer it won’t make it till the 2024 Spring offensive that won’t accomplish a thing like this year’s failed one that is now a summer offensive that likely won’t ever start either.
Well the winter offensive of the Russians achieved close to nothing – that could mean that we have seen them take it as far as they can. There was no spring offensive as spring continued to be mud season until mid may, by which time the Ukrainians had storm shadow i.e. the capacity to shape the battle space much beyond the 70 km limit they had until then.
Asking them them to start the offensive before they have soften up the Russians using this new range is demanding them to be as wasteful with their soldiers as the Russians are.
France and Germany isn’t talking to the Chinese because they want some takeout but that isn’t a “crack” is it?.
It will/would be if it meant that they were about to lift sanctions, but France has just joined the countries training Ukrainian pilots – not exactly a sign that they are trying to back out.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/f…
While Germany’s foreign minister has just stated: “Putin’s arrest for The Hague is legal, international law is clear”https://www.pravda.com.ua/e…
Not exactly signs that they are trying to leave the coalition either is it?
But we will wait for them to retake their territory before a ceasefire is possible because that would reward the aggressor….lol.
The actual quote is:
“But a ceasefire that simply freezes current lines in place and enables Putin to consolidate control over the territory he’s seized…It would legitimize Russia’s land grab. It would reward the aggressor and punish the victim.”
Which is what I have been saying for quite a while, while your quote reads very different, perhaps that is the reason for the ‘lol’?
Perhaps the 2026 spring offensive will work? I’m sure the coalition will hold until then because we don’t want to reward the aggressor, do we?
Sanctions will easily last beyond 2026, because if they do not and Russia has annexed Ukrainian territory then ending them will reward the aggressor – i.e. there were sanctions on Russia over Crimea lifting sanctions while Russia occupies even more Ukrainian territory would reward the SMO.
It would demonstrate to e.g. Xi that since China is much more important to the world economy they would face even less long lasting sanctions for taking Taiwan and hence make that a much more attractive option.
While the Chinese would be engaged in taking Taiwan other smaller players could execute their own SMO on their neighbors, as there would be no capacity to deal with them while the Chinese were taking Taiwan an issue that would at the very least be disrupting all IT supply chains and thus paralyzing to the ability of the west to sustain any effort, before they have home sourced the chips they currently buy from Taiwan.
Well nice of you to give my comment twice the amount of exposure then – thanks!
Glory hound.
Maybe learn how to use the features of Disqus and stop trying to dictate how others should write their comments?
Ukraine is not regaining territory but still is slowly losing it. Your post is a bunch of nonsence and contains lies of a laughable nature.
I hope you wasted a lot of time typing that silly tripe because that was a bunch of fiction.
Since August last year the Ukrainians have had a very significant net gain of territory. The changes during the Russian winter offensive were extremely limited in the last months so
Ukraine net change:
May: +51 square miles
April: +46 square miles
March -30 square miles
February: -57 square miles
So net change over the last 4 months; Ukraine +10 square miles
My sources are here below, what are your sources for Ukraine slowly losing territory?
https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-may-30-2023
https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-may-2-2023
https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-april-4-2023
https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-feb-28-2023
You have just described a stalemate.
When is Ukraine going to push Russia out?
No one in Washington believes the upcoming offensive will accomplish anything but more deaths but I’m sure you know when the big succesful push will occur so let’s hear it.
Ukraine will never push Russia out. But if the Ukrainians continue to resist, political opposition to the war in Russia will result in a change of policy or a change of government. The Afghans could not defeat in Soviets or the Americans. But by continuing to resist, the Afghans created political crises that forced the Us to withdraw and caused the Soviet system to collapse.
The current polling is at 85% approval of the war by Russians.
There is going to be a long wait for it to dip below 50% and a clamor to end it and come home.
Polling was the same in the US in the early years of the Vietnam and
Afghanistan wars. It is always the same in asymmetric wars of national resistance. Be patient. The Ukrainians will win.
They won’t hold the coalition together long enough to acquire the resources to do it.
You really believe after this Summer’s predicted failure in regards to the big offensive their support will continue through the winter for another Spring offensive?
Where is Ukraine “slowly losing territory?”
The credibility of sources varies, of course, but the Russians seem to control less Ukrainian territory now than they did last October, and a LOT less than they controlled last March.
Was that city not taken? Is there not a story here sharing they are being pushed back in Dunbas?
Did not that same author share this is because those tanks we keep hearing about are not being used there?
If you want to claim today’s new offering at antiwar is wrong sure that’s a view but I will go with
Gilbert Doctorow and those like him.
“Was that city not taken?”
You mean Bakhmut? Yes, after eight months they finally managed to take one city in an area they have largely occupied for more than a year. Not exactly a significant change of the territorial equation except to the extent that it helps them maybe pacify the general area where they’re still fighting after 15 months despite the inhabitants supposedly being overjoyed by their presence.
The war has effectively been in stalemate for more than a year now. The Ukrainians have gained some territory during that time, largely because the Russians have chosen to focus on the territory that’s important to them (e.g. Donetsk/Luhansk) rather than on defending areas that are neither as important to them or as defensible (e.g. Kherson).
It will likely mostly remain in stalemate until one of two things happens:
1) The US/EU/NATO empire tires of investing a tiny portion of its huge GDP in supporting Ukraine; or
2) The Russian empire tires of investing a huge portion of its tiny GDP in defeating Ukraine.
Could there be some kind of supercalafragilisticexpialadocious special Hail Mary breakout offensive by one side that breaks the back of the other side? Sure (and in that case I’d bet on it being the Russians who pull it off). But it’s not very likely.
Yes it is a stalemate after Russia took part of it and the lines settled down.
Now it appears they have taken control of that city and as today’s offering here shares they appear to be advancing.
I don’t know where our disagreement is other than at the edges and the ways we each put things
In a stalemate Ukraine wins. This is an asymmetric war. The objective of the invader is to (i) conquer (i.e. defeat to Ukrainian army), (ii) occupy territory and (iii) pacify the occupied territory (i.e, defeat the resistance). The objective of the indigenous defender is to avoid defeat and to continue to resist. A stalemate leads to a political crisis within the invading country that eventually forces the invader to withdraw. The key to the outcome is whether the indigenous defender has extensive popular support to maintain the resistance (hearts and minds). The invader needs to achieve its objectives quickly or the popular resistance reaches a tipping point where the indigenous people come to believe in the inevitability of defeating the stronger invader. Once the tipping point is reached the resistance becomes embedded creating a negative feedback loop where the harder the invader attempts to suppress the resistance, the stronger the resistance becomes. Ukraine has done what it needs to do to prevail. Now the Russian resistance to the war growing. But it can take a very long time for the Russian resistance to become strong enough to force a change in policy or a change in government.
Ukraine only wins if support from the West continues and the trend shows a weakening of support. Where will that support be after a failed offensive and anorher winter of promixes that a new Spring offensive will push them out?
The lines will likely stay and Russia keeps what they have.
The US and NTO/Europe are diverging on aid to Ukraine. While Ukraine fatigue is growing in the US, support for the Ukraine is spreading in Europe where the NATO members are determined to stop Russian expansionism. The Europeans know that revanchism is a threat tot heir security. It is likely the US will start limiting aid to Ukrainians around the 2024 election. But I expect the Europeans will continue to support Ukraine until the Russians are forced to leave.
Russia has never had plans of expansionism. That’s the big lie that the U.S. has fed to the Europeans, and they have bought into that lie. A look at a map of where U.S./NATO bases are and where Russian bases are around the world tells the true tale. It is the U.S. that is imperialistic and expansionist.
Cite one speech, one interview, or one article from Putin that indicates he has had plans of expanding into Eastern and Western Europe. The whole speech and not some line taken out of context.
According to Prof. John Mearsheimer, there is no evidence that Putin had expansionistic plans. So far no one has come forward with any proof to the contrary.
The lie was told to rally and to give the politicians something they could claim they prevented.
Russia won’t take Berlin nor London like we were told were Putin’s true intentions so obviously NATO has won.
Not to support the US positions,but the USSR was certainly an expansionist state.
The USSR, yes. The Russian Federation, NO. Name one country that the Russian Federation tried to take over since before February of 2022. How many bases does the Russian Federation have around the world compared to the U.S. and NATO?
“Name one country that the Russian Federation tried to take over since before February of 2022.”
The Chechen Republic of Ichkeria.
A little more complicated than you let on. According to Wikipedia, “The First Chechen War of 1994-1996 resulted in the victory of the separatist forces. After achieving de facto independence from Russia in 1996, kidnappings and violence between gangs plagued the region, which the government was unable to control. In November 1997, Chechnya was proclaimed an Islamic Republic. The Second Chechnya War began in August 1999, with Ichkeria falling and subsequently being forcibly subsumed back under Russian rule in 2000. An insurgency followed soon thereafter, officially ending in April 2009 after several years of conflict. Since the 2000s, several entities have claimed to be an exile government of Ichkeria.
It sounds like it was a violent messy situation there. And with you being an anarchist, I am sure you had no problem with all the chaos and violence. I have no doubt that the U.S. and NATO were behind stirring up the troubles there to cause problems for Russia.
What? You’re just now telling me that wars are violent messy situations? I never knew that before!
The vast majority of chaos and violence is caused by governments, not by anarchists.
Chaos and violence in other countries are often caused by our NGOs which are funded by the government. If NGOs are causing violence and chaos, then they are anarchist organizations in league with a terrorist state.
If they’re in league with a state, they’re by definition not anarchist organizations. Words mean things.
I read President Putin’s humorous analysis of the failure of existing western European governments and saying Russia did not want any part of that headache.
For example; Imagine president Putin attempting to get Germany to take responsibility for what it has done to Greece,
That’s pretty much the (false) premise that the “Pro Ukraine” and Russophobics’ arguments are based on, that Russia (Putin) is out to establish a new version of the USSR. Falls flat on its face from that point on.
This damn sh*tshow just needs to stop, period, Thomas. Why is China busting its ass to foment negotiations (and I’d bet that NATO, with the exception of no so Great Britain, would be amenable) while Amerikkka insists that the killing continue?
My only guess is that Amerikkka is so sick of losing wars that it needs to reclaim some warped status with a “win”.
Putin gets Crimea, no question there. The eastern oblasts either go to Russia or obtain independence from Ukraine. It’s odd that Amerikkka seems to be assuring that by killing off a couple of generations of Ukrainian men, their population will suffer immensely; who are the Ukrainian women going to marry and start families with?
“Why is China busting its ass to foment negotiations”
I haven’t seen any reason to believe that they are. They offered a set of principles for “negotiation” that go nowhere, since the Russians and Ukrainians will interpret the appeals to “national sovereignty” and “territorial integrity” 180 degrees opposite each other.
It seems mostly like they’re trying to buy more time to figure out which side their bread is buttered on.
The big prize would be Russia as a Chinese satrapy in exchange for pulling Putin’s testicles out of the fire, but if he doesn’t get desperate enough they may just triple down on their commitment to Ukraine by reaffirming their nuclear defense umbrella pledge at Putin’s expense and trying to firm up / expand the Belt and Road stuff at US/NATO expense.
Are you suggesting CHINA could/should/ would extend IT’S nuclear umbrella over UKRAINE to deter Russia from doing a nuclear attack on Ukraine?????
No, I ‘m not suggesting that China “could/should/would” do that.
I’m noting that China HAS done that. Twice (1994 and 2013). And never rescinded the guarantee.
Presumably Xi has mentioned this to Putin during their discussions of the matter.
I dunno maybe its just me, but I have a feeling lots of people on the commentariat here and elsewhere are gonna be left scratching their heads… like wtf just happened!? at the end of it all.
It’s not often that we agree so just wanted to celebrate the occasion by giving you an up vote.
Bakhmut was destroyed, no taken. Bakhmut was supposed to be the key to the Russian winter offensive. The purpose of the battle was to remove the Ukrainian garrison blocking he Russian advance. The Russians failed in their repeated attempts to encircle the Ukrainian garrison. The Ukrainians were pushed out of the city limits. But the Ukrainians are still effectively blocking the Russian advance beyond Bakhmut and making the Russians pay a heavy price for taking the city,.
They took the city with less reported losses than the Ukrainians.
That was a great Ukrainian victory.
A few more like that and Ukraine will win this….right?
The Ukrainian objective in Bakhmut was to block the Russian advance. The Russian objective was to remove the blocking force. After nine months of fighting the Russians failed to remove the force blocking their advance into Western Donbas. It doesn’t matter who holds the ruins of the destroyed city.
We have no reliable sources for Ukrainian casualties. Prigozhin’s estimate of 20,000 Wagner Group casualties is probably a lower limit on Wagner losses. We don’t know the casualties in the Russian supporting forces.
What matters is the 75,000 KIAs not including wounded from the Ukrainian side (according to Scott Ritter who just returned from Russian). If I was on an operation to demilitarize Ukraine and according to you all those soldiers impaling themselves in Bakhmut were fulfilling the objective of blocking Russian advance in some direction, how would you score the current outcome, say 1:1. Russians paying a heavy price ~ this is war not wrestling entertainment. We have no reliable sources for ukrainian casualties ~ typical beltway punditry lingo for obfuscation. Keep living in denial or whatever makes you sleep better at night.
“according to Scott Ritter who just returned from Russian”
Wow, the convicted felon/pedophile that served 3 years in jailed and now saying what Russia and Russian supporters want to hear. He has not be right once in any of his assessments about the war.
And was just in Russia selling his new book. Was also visiting the Tik Tik Chechens in Chechnya.
That guy just changed his loyalty to Russia for money.
Show us a comment or a video of him telling us something that later turned out wrong, mistaken or Russian propaganda. We are awaiting your reply…!!!!!!!!
You need to look at trends.
The stalemate has been waiting for a promised offensive and they keep putting it off with one excuse after another while countries such as France and Germany are talking to China about a ceasefire after this Summer’s fighting. I know the numbers are not accurate but to claim they lost a city without suffering more losses is just wishful thinking and to argue about the final tally is just comment board focus on trivialities such as how many more died instead of the loss that was so important to Ukraine to avoid until they could not hold and the politicians running the war said it was not important afterall.
Prigozhin said that in Bakhmut, Ukraine had suffered casualties of 50,000-70,000 wounded and 50,000 dead
It wasn’t about taking the city. If they wanted to take it, they would have encircled it. They specifically left it open to draw in imperial forces. The losses in manpower on the so-called “Ukrainian” side are catastrophic. The clean up of the city was exclusively done by Wagner mercs. The goal with Bakhmut meat grinder was not only to decimate the imperial military in manpower and resources, this was a political choke-point as well. This is a significant political loss not only for the occupational regime in Kiev but for the entire Anglo-American empire.
But we keep getting told here that Ukraine losses do not matter because manpower and weapons will be never ending. The coalition will never waver and most important of all Russia is actually losing this war.
Despite losing that city they caused much more Russian causaulties while doing so. Somehow Ukrainians have figured out how to kill more of the enemy while they lose ground.
Don’t tell me some of our friends here are delusional.
Yes, somehow Ukranians have figured out how to do what pretty much every army in pretty much every war in human history has always done: Inflict more casualties from the defensive versus the offensive.
In some ways your truism works except the reported overall numbers keep being more Ukraine losses overall with some claiming a rough parity
Your strategic withdrawal while inflicting more losses is not what that city reported at the end, did it?
Or do you want to go to parts of that battle where your truism works?
Overall the Russians seem to be inflicting more losses but sure,we can always find parts of the battle where the opposite is true.
Wagner guys are gloating about the victory and they have right to such glory. They have taken a heavily fortified city with fewer numbers than the enemy thrown at them. The incompetence of Pentagon regime in Kiev is simply incredible.
Whenever politicians are so heavily involved with decision making incompetence reins.
Unfortunately this is not unique to Ukraine but is just how it is it seems.
This is it.
Either they show progress after they use up a few 10’s of millions in dollars of weapons or the coalition will not hold for another winter of promises that a Spring offensive will change things.
Even if the causulties turn out to be a rough parity in numbers, one must look it at as a % of available soldiers too.
Who has the much larger army?
Who is hurt more when 1000 die?
The Russians who has a much larger military to draw from or does it hurt Ukraine more to lose a 1000 souls in the much smaller military?
Man can you ever spin!
The Russians were the Bakhmut Grinder and Kiev kept supplying the meat. No need for them to seek and destroy the Ukrainian Conscripts when they kept offering themselves up in Bakhmut.
Roflmao. ‘Net gains”! Also you should be a hollywood scriptwriter with this gifted imagination of yours. I thinks its on par with beltway mentality. All delusional!
Did I claim it was significant? Answer; no, but as an answer to this:
It is only fair to tell the truth i.e. that Ukraine has been taking more territory back most of the time since September 2023.
If you find this amusing, then that is on you, I can tell you that the Russians do not find it funny – their winter offensive led to so limited territorial gains that it was overshadowed by what we did not even call an offensive over the next two months.
What I find funny is your complete assessment of the smo and what you deem important gains. Russia’s ultimate strategic goal is not territorial gains, atleast not in the way you view it (as an invasion). These are Russia’s strategic goals in regards to Ukraine:
1) Protect Russia-speaking (we can call them nationals) from the onslaught and death brought on them by every western controlled govt that came to power since then maidan. That means occupying certain territories which where at risk (mostly in the donbass).
2) De-nazification- Exterminating the ideology (that never died) that confronted Russia and USSR killing 27 million of their people. This is a real horrifying and traumatic experience for a nation that experienced any type of war much more an ideological war.
3) Demilitarization – to disable any current and future configurations that can pose a security threat (like insurrectionists, terrorists – the known MO of western planners as evident in all the theaters they have fallen upon in the last 3 decades, no need to name them).
4) Creating a buffer zone for its security because there are no mountains just the stepe you can literally drive straight into Russia unimpeded by nature (hence the rising urge for neighbouring nations histotical attempts: Polish-Lithuania commonwealth, Sweden, etc
5) The above point illustrates why Russia has been so concerned with NATO estern expansion and has been vocal about it for many years, without getting any serious considerations for the simple fact western planners were INFACT targeting Russia and why Putin sent out the non-ultimatum regarding indivisible security. Hence why Ukraine in NATO is a huge redline for Russia. They want NATO lines pushed back because its not an imagined threat they are outlining, its a real threat as evident from the onset with the maidan. Historically Russia has been invaded and fought huge wars by nations that simply thought ooh we can just walk in nothing is in oir way. Napoleon, Hitler both viewed the capture of the heartland as the biggest prize of all (fvck the slavs-or so they thought). This reality is imbedded in the Russian psyche. US/NATO/Vassals have not done ANYTHING to alleviate that worry. No diplomacy, no friendly overtures, just the opposite.
6) The Smo has an supplementary objective that has been broughy about by the reaction of the West. This is dedollarization and a self inflicted wound called Sanctions. Its a process in movement that was not in the initial goals but if it will bring about multipolarity quicker and weaken the aggressive NATO countries then all good.
Those territories to be retained have already been retained, Russia has no interest in capturing all of Ukraine because it had no need for more land, more resource sucking, Russophobic people to deal with. Whatever is left after the war ans be divided up by Poland or whoever wants what and the rest can exist as a rump state. As long as a buffer zone is maintained between the bloodthirsty Nato nations and itself.
Have I presented my complete assessment of the SMO? Or for that matter have I ranked any of the gains in order of importance?
I responded to someone claiming that Russia was slowly taking territory – by saying that they were slowly losing territory in that, there is no assessment of their goals just a statement of fact.
Now seeing as you have provided an overview of Russia’s goals maybe it’s more interesting to debate them than to dwell on that you misread what I actually wrote.
Well that goal they seem to have F’ed up quite thoroughly – as resent statements from Pavel Gubarev clearly indicates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I55dIJmAJI
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So the SMO has taken the Donbas from suffering very low casualties to being denuded of men between the ages of 25-55 – not the best protection.
What kind f Nazi’ism are you on about here, the traditional one that killed more Ukrainians as a share of the population than it did Russians? The kind that would be OK with ethnic cleansing / mass murder? Or just exactly is it that the Ukrainians are more ‘Nazi’ then the Russians are right now – debating on Russian State TV how many Ukrainians they have to kill to cower the Ukrainian identity after winning the war!
As Prigozhin pointed out just recently the Ukrainian army is much better equipped and much stronger now than it was in February 2022, so quite an own goal again (as standpoint right now).
Russia has nukes, the weapon that is going to keep any other nation from actually proceeding to invade Russia beyond the most shallow border incursions – even if this was not the case , just because the borders of a country are hard to defend does not allow it to invade and annex territory from its neighbors.
But viewed as a goal of the SMO, it also means that they have so far failed – the border being no more defensible on a very long stretch as things are right now.
There was no chance that the west was going to invade Russia, Russia has nukes and any successful invasion would end in total destruction – best proof of this is the very low level of reserves that the west has and the fairly long time it will take to scale up production.
The fact that mention about the difficult to defend borders is why neighbors of Russia wanted to join NATO – they have hard to defend borders and a long history of Russia invading them.
It was a real threat, but not to Russia but to Russia’s neighbors – Ukraine was not on track to join NATO (Victor Orban and several others would have nixed them joining at least as long as they had issues with Russia over Crimea).
Russia has that history in common with most nations of Europe, that does not entitle the European nations to invade neighbors.
Actually the US economic advisor the Biden is actually for dedollarization, as it hampers US industrial production, so this is not necessarily a goal that will be met with the kind of opposition that the other goals will – though achieving it is not connected to the SMO, if anything the SMO has made it harder, not in the sense that it will have fewer backers, but in the sense that it will face a tougher process of getting trust.
You are now direcly contradicting your point 4 (and 5).
How can it be a buffer zone if it is part of Poland (which is in NATO?) – so it would have to remain independent would it not?
First of all let me applaud the calm and collected manner you engaged into the debate and your reply was welcomed. I m always perplexed by some of the point of views of others with whom I don’t see eye to eye with. Nevertheless, its informative and sometimes you find a nugget or two. With that said I m honestly wary of the multitude of posts and information bubble covering the day to day of the operation. From both sides. Lots of noise pollution. I know appreciate your stance on your side of the fence but I don’t stand with it. I believe whatever the outcome is, the universal truth will prevail. We can argue about the nitty gritty details but the larger picture is unfolding and ultimately its what matters at the end. Cheers
Thanks for the very nice reply, it’s good to see that there are people here capable of conducting a civil debate. I understand that some people even with decent motives can arrive at a different stance to mine, and that is when the debate is informative as you point out.
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Disagree with all of what you put in that regurgitated chapter.
ZaSu (say-zoo) Pitts a day ago
A ceasefire waits until Ukraine retakes its territory back….
Sure, we will just wait and wait and wait some more.
Impatient much? The Ukrainians already took back very significant parts of the occupied territories in late 2022 and have made net gains about every month since then.
That coalition that has cracked to the point where if they fail to accomplish anything this summer it won’t make it till the 2024 Spring offensive that won’t accomplish a thing like this year’s failed one that is now a summer offensive that likely won’t ever start either.
Well the winter offensive of the Russians achieved close to nothing – that could mean that we have seen them take it as far as they can. There was no spring offensive as spring continued to be mud season until mid may, by which time the Ukrainians had storm shadow i.e. the capacity to shape the battle space much beyond the 70 km limit they had until then.
Asking them them to start the offensive before they have soften up the Russians using this new range is demanding them to be as wasteful with their soldiers as the Russians are.
France and Germany isn’t talking to the Chinese because they want some takeout but that isn’t a “crack” is it?.
It will/would be if it meant that they were about to lift sanctions, but France has just joined the countries training Ukrainian pilots – not exactly a sign that they are trying to back out.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/f…
While Germany’s foreign minister has just stated: “Putin’s arrest for The Hague is legal, international law is clear”https://www.pravda.com.ua/e…
Not exactly signs that they are trying to leave the coalition either is it?
But we will wait for them to retake their territory before a ceasefire is possible because that would reward the aggressor….lol.
The actual quote is:
“But a ceasefire that simply freezes current lines in place and enables Putin to consolidate control over the territory he’s seized…It would legitimize Russia’s land grab. It would reward the aggressor and punish the victim.”
Which is what I have been saying for quite a while, while your quote reads very different, perhaps that is the reason for the ‘lol’?
Perhaps the 2026 spring offensive will work? I’m sure the coalition will hold until then because we don’t want to reward the aggressor, do we?
Sanctions will easily last beyond 2026, because if they do not and Russia has annexed Ukrainian territory then ending them will reward the aggressor – i.e. there were sanctions on Russia over Crimea lifting sanctions while Russia occupies even more Ukrainian territory would reward the SMO.
It would demonstrate to e.g. Xi that since China is much more important to the world economy they would face even less long lasting sanctions for taking Taiwan and hence make that a much more attractive option.
While the Chinese would be engaged in taking Taiwan other smaller players could execute their own SMO on their neighbors, as there would be no capacity to deal with them while the Chinese were taking Taiwan an issue that would at the very least be disrupting all IT supply chains and thus paralyzing to the ability of the west to sustain any effort, before they have home sourced the chips they currently buy from Taiwan.
Still you have failed to learn how to use Disqus facilities making you exactly the kind of space waster you yourself hate, interesting that, very resistant to change or incapable of acquiring new skills?
That you disagree with what I have written is I not a surprise to anyone, what is interesting is that you cannot put into words what it is that you disagree with nor argue why it is reasonable to disagree – you know structure arguments to establish a point.
Hilarious.
It isn’t that I disagree with some of the things you post. Your very low attention span is the issue.
You rite:
I reply:
To which you reply:
You have complained that I quoted what I reply to, but but when I do not we get you first disagreeing with what I write – challenged you seem to reply ‘It isn’t that I disagree with some of the things you post.‘ i.e. a reply that would seem to indicate that you have not read what is written above the comment you reply to!?
But I agree with you this is hilarious.
Of course you do, comedians laugh at their own comedy.
“Because they want some takeout”…ZaSu, you’re hilarious! 😁
Blinken should be tried in Nuremberg.
He should be dropped on the front lines of the war. Get a taste of what war is. Before he goes, someone has to take his board game of Risk from him.
Wow! Drawing down US arms stockpiles makes the US military stronger. Failing to even discuss Russia’s core concern over Ukraine NATO membership is genuine diplomacy. A grinding war of attrition is a victory for the smaller force. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Anyone else’s concerns don’t matter to narcissists, much less to a State Department that’s full of them.
The guy sure sounds like some of those that share their musing here According to them Putin is about to be deposed because Ukraine slowing losing territory is really gains and Russia is actually losing territory.
Ag, our chief diplomat, oh wait, chief warmonger at it again.
A top clown and such clowns are very beneficial in creating overinflated estimates of imperial capabilities. What he is really trying to do is to salvage whatever is left of imperial pride. Since now pretty much entire world laughs at Anglo-American empire.
This is actually stunning in its falsity, … like Bibi on steroids.
I support a cease fire accompanied with complete Russian withdrawal from all illegally annexed territories.
All in the name of peace.
I support a complete withdrawal of the Azov batteries from Donbas and the edge of Crimea. In the name of peace.
I support a UN Resolution condemning the United States for all of its violent meddling in the affairs of other nations. All written out in black and white for the whole world to see.
As would most of us if it was ever convincingly evidenced that the US had violently meddled in Ukrainian affairs – however so far that convincing evidence is missing, while the admission of direct Russian involvement in the ‘domestic‘ insurrection that supposedly grew out of the domestic protest over Maidan, is there for all to see.
I’ve pointed you in the direction of lots of evidence of US meddling not just in Ukraine, but all over the world. Evidence on this very website as well as other websites. You choose to shake your head and look the other way. Fine. I’m not wasting any more of my time with you.
I can easily find the evidence for US meddling in many other places than Ukraine, it is for Ukraine that I come up short – if it is so easy to find why can’t you link the specific sites where you find compelling evidence?
I do not claim there is none, only that I can’t find anything that comes remotely close to what I can find for Russian meddling in the supposedly popular uprisings in the Donbas and Crimea.
I do not choose to look away, I looked and I looked but I found nothing beyond allegations and a very unconvincing leaked Victoria Nuland conversation – if you have something more convincing then you should have no trouble finding it – what I’m saying is that I cannot find it, not that I choose to look away.
I’d support such a resolution as well, but it’s not like UN resolutions have much effect.
For example, it’s been 15 months since the UN resolution calling on Russia to “immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders.”
It shows how the United States has been able to run roughshod over the system and use it for its own purposes. Hopefully that will be changing, or else the rest of the world will need to create an alternative to the United Nations.
The UN General Assembly also passes resolutions that the US doesn’t like. For example, ES-10/19, declaring Israel’s designation of Jerusalem as its capital null and void, despite Trump threatening to cut aid to countries that voted for it, and 67/19, recognizing Palestine as a UN observer state.
Thomas, I see that you’re an early riser. Is that from your Marine training?
Years ago my oldest son and I were sitting in a military recruiting office before he went into the Army. This office was for all branches of the military. It was in the morning and no one had yet arrived. The first one there was the Marine recruiter. I said to him “Do the Marines always get here first?” He looked at me, with a smile, and said “Always.”
I can blame the Marine Corps for a lot of things, but not for that in particular.
I’m an early riser because some of the jobs I do require that I keep to a schedule. I can decide the schedule, but it needs to be fairly consistent. And for some reason, it’s a lot easier for me to be consistent if I make myself go to bed by about 8:30 or 9pm, and get up at 4:30am. If I try to stay up late/get up late, I wake up earlier than I intend to (if for no other reason than that the rest of the household starts banging around and waking me up), and don’t get enough sleep.
Of course, I only need to keep that schedule five days a week, but once I’m on it, I tend to wake up early on the weekends as well.
I have general sleeping problems that I DO kind of blame the Marine Corps for. I think the schedule craziness, combined with severe punishment for showing up late, made the part of my brain that issues wake-up alerts over-active. If I have an alarm set, it doesn’t matter if it’s set for 18 hours later, I’ll wake up every couple of hours to make sure I haven’t overslept. If I’m traveling the next day, even if my flight takes off at 7pm, I don’t sleep well. There’s a new drug, I can’t remember the name of it, that’s supposed to calm that part of the brain. I’m going to ask my doctor about it at my next regular appointment.
Seroquel works for me Thomas!
Take it, you’re asleep ten minutes later, and you get eight hours in 🙂
Interesting, I had never heard of that one. The one I was thinking of and couldn’t remember the name of is Quvivic. It seems to be fairly new and I’ve been seeing ads for it. It’s an “orexin antagonist,” orexin apparently being a neuropeptide that apparently triggers the receptors in your brain that yell WAKE UP at you. My theory of my sleep troubles, which could be completely wrong, is that having drill instructors, etc. yelling WAKE UP at me all the time for a long time made those receptors very sensitive, such that my brain is always telling me to WAKE UP, even when it shouldn’t be.
It sucks not to be able to sleep, Thomas.
Seroquel ( generic name is quetiapine) is what my MD brother refers to as a “major tranquilizer”, lol. I don’t care WHAT it is; it works 😁
If that drug is Ambien then I would caution against it. I took Ambien for problems sleeping due to cancer therapy, and had a hell of a time overcoming being addicted to it.
Nope, not Ambien. I’ve heard plenty of horror stories about that one.
Johnny, a close friend has taken Ambien for years with no ill effects, fortunately. She claims that without it, she would never be able to sleep.
Works for her, anyways, though technically it’s supposed to be used short term.
I used to be the type who could fall asleep waiting in the checkout line at the grocery store. I didn’t understand insomnia at all, until, a number of years ago, my longtime antidepressant stopped working. I found myself unable to sleep more than 3/4 hours at a time. I was using Benadryl without much effect. My psychiatrist eventually prescribed Seroquel… bingo! A complete restful night, with no “hangover” effects in the morning 🙂
For me the worst thing about taking Ambien is that the house could be falling down around me and it wouldn’t wake me up. Once a large painting my girlfriend had hanging near the head of the bed crashed to the floor at 1am. She was out in the living room watching television but I was sleeping in the bed. She came running in to see what happened and I was sound asleep, hearing absolutely nothing. Since I live by myself that’s a real concern for me, in case of a fire or intruder. I finally got off Ambien and have no trouble sleeping. I’m glad you found what works for you. Not being able to sleep is miserable, and it probably reduces your lifespan.
Omg, Johnny!
Here’s another thing about Ambien. My friend sometimes falls asleep while watching QVC. A few days later, she’ll receive a package that she had zero recollection of ordering. This has happened on several occasions. Taking Ambien is sometimes hard on the wallet, lol.
What I like about Seroquel is that I’m still sentient enough to get up and use the bathroom during the night 😉
The UN General Assembly also passes resolutions that the US doesn’t like. For example, ES-10/19, declaring Israel’s designation of Jerusalem as its capital null and void, despite Trump threatening to cut aid to countries that voted for it, and 67/19, recognizing Palestine as a UN observer state.
Golly, I was told here by our more “earnest” friends here that international law (that swell amorphous term) was something that everyone must obey and you share Russia isn’t?
Gobsmacked; I’m completely gobsmaked that someone would not “immediately” obey a demand by such a international orgainization like the UN.
Next someone will tell me that the US doesn’t always listen to these bodies either….
The same could be said for the illegal annexations of Palestinian land by Israel. How many UN resolutions are there condemning Israel and not one thing has been done about them.
Mary, IsraHell is probably in violation of more UN mandates and articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention than anyone else on the planet. WHY does the world allow this?!
Oh yeah….”antisemitism” 🤣
How about that Julio, sound reasonable to you?
Hope you have many years to wait for that to happen there Julio.
Never debate a man who had nine shots of his own label, they feel invincible.
And NATO/US, moves away from Russia’s borders. Better yet, NATO dissolves like it should have when the Soviet Union imploded. All in the name of peace
After we get out of Syria?
“Blinken Dismisses Calls for a Ceasefire, Says US Must Build Up Ukraine’s Military The Secretary of State called for Washington to continue to put militarism before diplomacy”
This clown Blinken is not a diplomat he is another war monger and war criminal.
He would look great in a Nazi SS uniform and it would be appropriate.
That’s equal to US self destruction…!
sell some more bullets
To a nation which is not likely to pay back soon, if at all?
The narrative that this is done at the behest of the MIC ignores that the US could sell more weapons by doing nothing and thus signaling that every nation would have to rely upon their own defense for their security.
That is moronic … the US govt does not care who pays for the MI complex’s profits, we’re paying a trillion $ ourselves. What they need is an EXCUSE to sell even more. Ukraine has been GRERREAT for business.
Then the original comment should have been phrased differently – had it been then my question would have been:
Why spend billions in support for Ukraine, if there are orders of magnitude more money in sales to nations that can and will pay, by just accepting the Russian annexation and thereby telling nations all over the world that uncle Sam no longer will support them?
Oh, the paying customers get the good stuff, new and shiny …
Ukraine is a good dumping ground for old useless crap, sold at a premium nevertheless, and clearing western inventories for more orders. Money, money, money …war is a racket, don’t you know?
The higher pay would be for not supporting Ukraine, i.e. the panic among the nations of the world that buy US stuff would be much more serious if the US did not do a thing for Ukraine.
I support the complete removal of Zelensky and his terrorist regime by force if necessary. Russia should keep everything and push for Odessa. NATO and the US must be neutered by this conflict that they instigated ten years ago.
Well good of you to at least be honest about your pro war stance.
Yes but the real proWar wachine is not coming from Moscow. Via Neo Nazi’s, NATO expansionism, broken agreements, the removal of human rights for Russian speakers in the Donbass since 2014. The illegal coup in 2014.
The Russians have only lashed out from these provocations. The same people supporting Azov Neo Nazi’s in Ukraine are Supporting Al Qaeda in Syria fighting Assad.
The USA.
Can you mention even one agreement regarding NATO accepting new members that has been broken?
Can you say which human rights that Russian speakers have had removed – I can’t remember a single one.
That is the nature of all ‘revolutions’ i.e. they have very doubtful legitimacy – which is why the Ukrainians proceeded to hold new elections as fast as possible – thereby restoring the democratic legitimacy of their government. I should remind you that Putin has himself does not have a significantly longer list of heads of state behind him, before there was an illegal coup in Russia, so he is no more legitimate than Zelenskyy.
Possibly there are few if any in the west that supports the Azov Neo Nazi, but whom ever the people are who would be supporting Azov Neo Nazi’s in Ukraine it seems highly doubtful that they would be supporting Al Qaeda in Syria.
The US spend a very large amount of effort at cutting Al Qaeda in Syria down to size – but you probably knew that.
I feel the same way about the ByeDone regime.
I want free ice cream.
What, Nuland’s free cookies weren’t enough ? 😉
Paranoia has set in at the Kremlin and the MOD. Charges of treason resound as the oligarchs look for scapegoats to blame for Putin’s disaster. Al Jazeera reports that three leading Russian scientists who worked to develop Russia’s hypersonic missiles have been charged with high treason and are facing life in prison.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/2/treason-trial-of-russian-hypersonic-missile-scientist-begins
The treason charges against the hypersonic missile scientists are sending shock waves through Russia’s scientific community. An open letter attesting to the patriotism and innocence of the three accused scientists was unanimously passed by the employees of the Siberian institute where they worked on Russia’s hypersonic missile program.
http://itam.nsc.ru/about/news/2023-05-15.html
It appears that the three scientists are charged with leaking sensitive information that enabled China to surprise the world by developing its hypersonic missile in 2021, shortly after the Russian breakthrough. A fourth Russian physicist died in July 2022, two days after he was arrested on charges of passing secret information to Chin.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-scientist-dies-two-days-after-arrest-state-treason-lawyer-2022-07-03/
If the accused scientists are guilty, then it means China is spying on Russia. If the scientists are innocent, then Putin’s regime has descended into a paranoid pit reminiscent of the Stalin era. Either way, these prosecutions are not good for morale for the scientists working for Russia’s most advanced missile program. The open letter by their colleagues states that the prosecutions are driving young people away from careers in science and chilling the willingness of other scientists to work on Russian government projects.
“Who doesn’t want the killing to stop?”
Well, apparently, Mr Blinken, for one.
“That means building a Ukrainian army for the future with long term funding …”
And how would Ukraine ever afford such a military? They would just be an armed camp of the west, forever poised to attack? Did the Ukrainian people sign on for this unending war?
“War! What is it good for?! Absolutely nothing! Say it again! War! What is it good for?! Absolutely nothing!”…
Can we impeach him? As the nation’s highest diplomat, shouldn’t diplomacy take precedence over any more belligerence? I suppose Hilary Clinton started this, secretaries of State kick-starting conflicts rather than trying to resolve them. “Better to jaw jaw than to war war”- W. Churchill — Gee, with folks like this running the world, what have we to lose? (snicker)
Think of him as a global representative and salesman for Raytheon, Boeing, etc … that’s the real job, and he’s doing pretty well.
Why isn’t the Western Hemisphere (enforcement of the Monroe Doctrine) enough to fuel our MIC?
James Taiclet has advised The Blinker that for the sake of defense stockholders, the conflict must continue. To have any hint of peace would send a signal that might cause investors to lose confidence.
I listened to Blinken’s entire speech in Helsinki on C-SPAN last night, and I have never seen and heard one man lie so much. It was nauseating to see and listen to his bald faced lies. The man has no shame.
Kudos to you for listening to the whole thing.
I noticed, his lies only stick with you, nothing else was noteworthy.
That was very brave of you, Mary.
My stomach would have pushed the ejection button.
What do you mean, build up the Ukraine military? What about the U.S. military? Our ammunition stockpiles are practically nil. The recruitment is next to nothing. The training has nothing to do with being military. So, if the U.S. is attacked what are they going to do for defense, hand out purses?
“Our ammunition stockpiles are practically nil. The recruitment is next to nothing.”
You say that like those are bad things.
“The training has nothing to do with being military.”
Oh, sorry. I started off thinking I was reading a comment on the story, not a rough draft of your romantic fantasy novel.
“President Biden told President Putin that we were prepared to discuss our mutual security concerns – a message that I reaffirmed repeatedly – including in person, with Foreign Minister Lavrov.” The Secretary of State continued, “We offered written proposals to reduce tensions. Together with our allies and partners, we used every forum to try to prevent war, from the NATO-Russia Council to the OSCE, from the UN to our direct channels.” ~ Wow! Just wow! And to say it with a straight face. It takes a special kind of person on special kind of drug. This isn’t some kind of reverse projection, this is orwelian mind bending, reversed universe type delusional mind frame. I honestly think if you happen to kidnap Blinky and cut open his brain, you sure to find a palm sized alien piloting his brain. Très bizarre
The Biden horror cabinet, and is not getting better.
The Empire of Lies is pushing out lies. What is surprising about that?
Sometimes the audacity of their lies is so shocking.
Blinken put it as a question instead of a statement because he doesn’t want to admit that he is one of those who doesn’t want warring parties to lay down their arms. He did, however, clarify that he opposes a cease fire because he places a higher value on land than he does on lives.
I score his statement as a minor victory for those who seek peace. As far as I know, Russia isn’t asking for a cease fire. Blinken made this statement because he is starting to feel moral pressure from other nations. The key word, however, is “minor”. He just couldn’t resist adding that his goal is to be ready to fight another war with China before Ukraine runs out of bodies to throw into the war he has already started.
I’m surprised that he didn’t burst into flames when he suggested that the Biden administration tried to prevent this war, particularly after reasserting that the US is achieving its true objective, which is to weaken Russia.
One of the key demands is that Russia withdraw from Crimea and the Donbas in order to preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine. I wonder what would happen if Russia agreed to such a withdrawal provided that Ukraine also agree to respect the territorial integrity of an independent Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk. Scratch that. Ukraine already agreed to that, then demonstrated bad faith for 8 years.
I have little doubt that the US can outlast Russia if the conflict lasts long enough. But it’s looking as if Ukraine will run out of soldiers long before that happens. Moreover, the message that Russia continuously receives from this kind of talk is that it must end the war quickly and decisively if it is to frustrate the plans of this administration.
Blinken won’t agree to a ceasefire because so far his side has lost the war he started. He won’t own that (of course), so he plays at Hitler-in-the-bunker denial of reality to avoid facing the consequences of his starting and losing this war.
Yes, he and the neocons/warhawks are exactly that evil, and the US will go down with them if we don’t clean house soon. This is unsustainable.
“We have one priority, Selling weapons for the arms industry.”
Isn’t that all he really said?
By the way, if they can’t build up Ukraine’s military faster than Russia during a ceasefire, then what makes them think they can build up Ukraine’s military while Russia is busy dismantling it and blowing up ammo depo’s all over the country? Seems to me that we either have the ability to arm them to the point where they can’t be defeated by Russia or we don’t, and if we do then it would be easier during a ceasefire than while the war is raging. As we can see, the level this war is being fought at has not diminished Russia’s ability to strengthen their own military, they have done so, month after month and they are only growing stronger.
Currently Russia’s Army is more capable than they were the day the war began. Ukraine is not growing stronger despite the billions we have sunk into the country nor are they likely to grow stronger as long as the war is raging. Why do they think this makes sense? Do they believe their own hype about how Russia is supposed to be taking massive casualties? I don’t think so. I think they like the idea that it will be an open ended sales festival for the arms industry so long as the war continues, so why stop the fun now?
That’s ok, after the Ukrainians are dismantled, they’ll send in the Poles. Always more cannon fodder to be had. I don’t think the West Elite likes Slavs very much anyway, in general.
Putin has already made threatening overtures to the use of dirty bombs. Ones that will insure a no go fallout zone from Zaporizhzhia to Chernobyl. Making the Dnipro impassible. Is that your plan Blinken? To push Putin to the brink? NATO can go there if they want that end result.
“Blinking” and “Bye-Done” are going to get us into a sh-t load of problems, with attitudes like this… World War III or World War Z?…
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2023/04/10/64345ab5ca4741de658b4576.html
Sigh…. Inhale………………………………………………………………………………
Exhale……………………………………………………………………………..
Good Mojo!
It’s the end of world!!!! 😳
That’s why I like you DJ. An eternal optimist!
Send this mother¢*cker to Ukraine now…
“American arms stockpiles are dwindling as Washington attempts to transfer Kiev enough military equipment to keep its army fighting.”
Now China begins to rumble in earnest. Yes, well, there are other ways to look at ww3 than the way Blinken describes;
North Americans, excluding Mexico, are traveling a long way to wage ww3 for total domination of Eurasian enemies. North Americans have worked themselves into believing the only way to spend a debt funded compound percentage budget growth ponzi scenario is a proxy war with Nato/five-eyes/Japan fighting in ww3. And they are correct.
It was 50 years ago today,
Sargent Pepper taught Nixon how to play.
China opened American doors, Kissinger smiled okay.
Chorus; Sargent pepper’s lonely heart club band. Sargent Pepper’s only, Sargent Pepper’s lonely hearts club band.
It was twenty-five years ago today,
Nationalist Chinese quit trying to take over china.
Every one smiled okay, mostly.
There are those who yearn for more;
They’re a problem that’s for sure.
Chorus; Sargent pepper’s lonely heart club band. Sargent Pepper’s only, Sargent Pepper’s lonely hearts club band.
China’s long haul unification plan is via student scholarships, internal tourism, business, and friendly offer of a seat at the table. No rush.
http://www.china.org.cn/photos/2023-06/04/content_86287574.htm
On the other hand, Russia, China, and Iran are surrounded. We already see how NATO is doing in the northern European area. Iran and Russia are Türkiye neighboring geographically. China is linked to all of them. It just finished building a new capitol government center for Egypt and owns the port of Greece. Russia gave Iran shipping access to the Volga and then via river and canal to the Black and Mediterranean Seas. And Mexico is tired of northern sourced instability. Venezuela and Columbia are cooperating together and with Beazil. The times they are a changing.
Now, linked below, China speaks a warning to people like Blinken about Pentagon budget plans becoming the military reality of ww3;
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202306/1291901.shtml
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202306/1291944.shtml
Defend against U.S. aggression?
” After all, who doesn’t want warring parties to lay down their arms? Who doesn’t want the killing to stop?” Blinken said.
All he has to do is to look in the mirror to find who doesnt.
“”That means helping build a Ukrainian military of the future, with long-term funding, a strong air force centered on modern combat aircraft, an integrated air and missile defense network, advanced tanks and armored vehicles, national capacity to produce ammunition, and the training and support to keep forces and equipment combat-ready.”
Precisely what provoked Russia to attack. Brilliant!
Does Blinken think that people who have followed event believe his nonsense ?
Blinken Dismisses Calls for a Ceasefire because the US/NATO Ukrainian counter offensive has started. The attack was launched by Ukraine for political reasons under pressure from its US/NATO sponsors.
US/NATO Attacks happened all over the front lines. In the north towards Belgograd, to the east and, with the most forces, towards the south. There was so far little to no success in any of the attacks, but it is early days.
The first daily report by the Russian Ministry of Defense list as Ukrainian losses over the last 24 hours 910 soldiers, 16 tanks, 33 armored combat vehicles/infantry fighting vehicle and some 30 trucks.
Todays daily report will be similar to the first daily report however it appears that the UK tanks have been using depleted uranium munitions. Russia’s response will be interesting.
Russia is now saying the Offensive came and went lol.