Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his British counterpart, James Cleverly, vowed on Tuesday that the US and Britain will continue supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia regardless of the result of Kyiv’s expected counteroffensive.
“We need to continue to support them, irrespective of whether this forthcoming offensive generates huge gains on the battlefield, because until this conflict is resolved and resolved properly, it is not over,” Cleverly said at a joint press conference with Blinken in Washington.
Blinken strongly backed Cleverly’s comments. “I can only violently agree with my friend and strongly endorse what he’s just said. We have exactly the same perspective,” he said.
Blinken also disputed the notion that support for Ukraine in Washington was waning, pointing to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) recently expressing strong support for backing Kyiv. “I would refer you, for example, just recently to the very strong statement made by the Speaker of the House McCarthy about support for Ukraine and the enduring support and determination to see this through,” he said.
The pledge from Cleverly and Blinken comes as there are many signs that Ukraine’s counteroffensive will not be successful. Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov has said the West should lower its expectations for the assault.
One of the Pentagon documents that appeared online as part of the Discord leaks was a US assessment from February that showed the US did not believe Ukraine could regain significant territory. Last week, Blinken said the Ukrainian military was in better shape now than it was a few months ago, but POLITICO reported on April 24 that current assessments also doubt Kyiv can gain much territory.
When strenuously united friends violently agree to keep a war going despite no real chance of victory, beware of permanent war, one we are pretending to not be combatants in.
Well, yes, as permanent war was the idea in the first place … no wonder they “violently” agree …
Quite the appropriate description. “Violently”.
He couldn’t help it … sometimes it just slips out …
He needs to zip.
Maybe a name change? Cleverly and Violently.
I like it … let’s use it from now on (Tony “Violently”” Blinken) … maybe it will catch on.
Right, Bear….this guy’s name is “Cleverly”?!
That’s what I call f*cking ironic 🙄
That’s what I call a misnomer…!!!!!
That’s was I call damn straight! 😂
Biden still thinks that he can bankrupt Russia with this war. But I’m not sure who is bankrupting who.
It seems that our DC establishment did not understand the Russian economy, but instead acted on its assumptions and prejudices. That is now coming to the normal end of such error.
Never-wavering support from American and British politicians is usually a very good sign they are about to pull their never-ending support.
They are the loudest about how they’ll support something just before they start distancing themselves from the mess.
This whole project is doomed. It’s crazy men and cowards on display. Russia has the situation way more under control than the pigmyies and freaks who represent the West. The U.S. BLOWS UP Germany’s energy supply and Shultz registers not a whimper.. That man is no leader but almost lower than a mouse! Where are the real men in Germany…???? Where are they..?? Are there any that would let a supposed ally destroy their principal energy source and utter not even a whimper….????
Like Kissinger said:”The only thing more dangerous than being America’s enemy is being America’s friend”
How long will this terrible deception and cover up be kept out of the thoughts and concerns of average German citizens?
Are we to believe that average German citizens and voters will allow their political class be browbeaten by America and their Neocon supremicists out to conquer the world for their “Full Spectrum Dominance”…?? The going is way tough now going against just Russia with conventional weapons. What will it be like to go against Russias and China in nuclear exchange warfare…????? When will Europe realize what a dangerous exerciser this proxy war with Russia is while the nonstop hectoring of China is almost a daily event. How many hundred million will die if this madness does not wind down and end…?!?!?!
Yes, the project is doomed but they can’t change the course. The same as fascist Europe couldn’t change the course in autumn 1943 when, after the battle of Kursk, it was already clear that they have no chance to win. They did invested in this project too much.
The US will persist in this nonsense until the bitter end.
Agreed. The Hegemon cannot lose – by definition. It’s part of the Catechism of the Holy Church of Uncle Sam.
lol
These morons are draining my weed supply.
Now, we cannot have that Wendell….
Inhale……………………………………………..
Russia has the war under control?
Oh, that’s why their ‘BIG WINTER OFFENSIVE” went almost nowhere.
Why they are reduced to pulling obsolete tanks out of storage, refitting them and sending them into Ukraine.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/02/25/russias-tank-plan-take-a-60-year-old-t-62-install-new-optics-send-it-to-ukraine-to-get-blown-up/?sh=27f090de3f2b
Why their economy has contracted 3 quarters in a row and is technically in a depression.
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth-annual
This is your idea of ‘Russia has the situation way more under control…’?
Okay.
BTW – I am 100% for Musk’s tweet idea of peace in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1576969255031296000
Musk has it exactly right when it comes to a proper and historically correct basis for peace talks to settle this.
Ukraine becomes the second Austria of Europe.
When did the Russian general staff ever say that they were planning to carry out a big winter offensive? The only thing they said was that they planned to grind down the Ukrainian army. And that’s exactly what they’re doing.
Wait… Who was voting? People on twitter?
Eastern Ukraine?
Yeah. Everybody is for peace on their own terms, by so what else is new. These Neocons want peace too, after a little war to weaken Russia. Russia and China could win a nuclear war with Europe in three days. They better pray rant Putin does not lose his cool. One of his 200 megaton torpedos up the Thames to visit King Charles with a surprise: Kaboom!!!!!! Sensible people might wonder why. The answer is
We have friends and relatives in Germany. The most common theme they utter in relation to the conflict in Ukraine is their fear that Russia has ambitions to take over all of Europe and this is just the beginning of Putin’s vision of a return to empire.
They’re brainwashed. There is next to no need for their government to propagandize them as Blinken and Co to do in the US.
No matter what. This makes sense. Considering how well are Europeans taking hit in their standard of living, loss of industries, no home loans available, retirements delayed, inflation, fresh produce rationed, etc etc — it appears sacrifices are understood.
It’s not so bad in Europe plus what you described is happening everywhere in the world.
It is so bad in Europe.
Hence, regime change is coming to the EU.
The US has manufactured regime change alright, but on its own side this time.
That does not make it right.
It makes it fair for the root cause of the problem.
Roots are underground – by definition. But you choose to use the point of initiation of hostilities by Russia as the root of the problem, which only proves you are ignorant of the role history plays in conflicts like the present one.
American imperialism?
American imperialism and exceptionalism are figments of the imagination that must have occurred 250 years ago when the settlers slaughtered the Native Americans and killed all the Buffalo in a land grab and brought over 50 Million Africans for cheap labor.
You are massively ignorant of American history. A nation doesn’t spend multiples of its closest rivals on their military for defense, especially given that we don’t have many enemies we haven’t made ourselves.
The permanent war is bad but even worse is to be on the side of the evil. Maybe the corporate media can convince the population of NATO that the neo-Nazi anti-constitutional coup 2014 in Kiev was good and it is okay to topple the democratically elected government. The rest of the world see it differently.
Russia, China and India will never agree that there is an “exceptional nation” which has the right to create “the rules” for the rest of the world. Putin in his yesterday’s speech in Red Square compared the hegemonistic ambitions of the rulers of US with the hegemonistic ambitions of the rulers of Nazi Germany and found no difference. The leaders of the other seven former Soviet republics who were also present there, obviously, agree with Putin though themselves, of course, they wouldn’t dare to call a spade a spade. It is remarkable that the leaders of all Central Asian republics came to Moscow to celebrate together with Putin the defeat of European Nazism, while European republics were divided: Armenian and Belarussian leaders came to Moscow, all the rest not. The closest American allies are openly glorifying Nazism.
Outstanding post.
Hear Hear it is like I thought that I was crazy but it the rest of the would be fascists are the nuts.
Right.
Much of the rest of the world are all Nazis.
Biden and NATO are closet Nazi’s.
They sit around, wearing stormtrooper outfits.
And masturbate to photos of Hitler.
And they all hate Jews. Even though they give billions of dollars and some of their best weapons to Israel.
Sure.
Whatever.
Have a nice day.
I love your stuff.This is an extremely accurate portrayal about the US and its foreign policy. I am sure the various security{sic} have both our names and numbers Gitmo here come the dissidents.
Really?
Then perhaps you could post link(s) to unbiased sources that show the basis for your statement that the (I assume) Russian fellow’s post above is ‘extremely accurate’?
Or are you not basing your statement on any hard data at all?
Maybe the Russian media can convince the population of Russia and its supporters that the Kremlin Neo-Nazis anti sovereignty of Kiev were good and it is okay to invade a free country on false pretenses to take their land.
Which was never the stated goal. The stated goals was to stop the GENOCIDAL civil war in the Russian speaking oblasts, and leave like Russia did with Georgia (and the US did in Afghanistan after 20 years).
The problem with the straight MSM narrative whose propaganda you are always here pushing, is that the moral outrage requires we ignore everything before February 2022. And the history and facts of the situation require we ignore our actions since the nineties, especially 2014. Agreeing with you would mean I have to ignore my own memories of world events and the predictions of how our meddling in Ukraine since 2014 would turn out.
In short, I’d need to value ideology over history, and the mainstream US ideology just isn’t worth it. Maybe we luck out of this situation, but unless you personally are a billionaire or arms corporation, eventually our bullshit fascism is going to come for you too.
Its already moving in that direction. Just look at Florida,Texas and the SCOTUS. It won’t be long now before America is one big concentration camp.Between the Proud boys,the Police and Trump and the stupidity and senility of Joe Biden things can move fast.
“The stated goals was to stop the GENOCIDAL civil war in the Russian speaking oblasts, and leave like Russia did with Georgia (and the US did in Afghanistan after 20 years).”
No, the stated goal — by Vladimir Putin — was to “de-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine.”
And the only way to accomplish that goal would be conquest, occupation, and regime change.
Y6ou need a mental health check.
S0…instead of posting links to prove that his statement was wrong?
You simply throw ad hominem’s at him.
Your actions are EXACTLY like those of a troll.
Yeah…a rational post.
I seriously wonder how many of these other people who post here (not you) are Russians.
Because they sure seem to have no problem with Russia invading a sovereign nation.
Sure, Ukraine was wrong in attacking the breakaway Oblasts in 2014. Dead wrong.
But that does not justify Russia invading Ukraine itself.
Not for a second.
Watch out! There will be Russians under your bed pretty soon 😉
Yeah, the Ukies only killed 15,000 of their fellow Ukrainians still speaking Russian. No reason for the Russians to cross the border to try to stop the killing. Except maybe some of the people being killed had friends come to try to save them. No sense arguing about how the killing got going. Really it was all planned in Washington to weaken Russia. Isn’t that what black defense secretary Lloyd Austin said when asked on camera..?? Seems like it is weakening Ukraine a good bit too. Russia is smashing their cities, blowing up their electrical power grid, railroads and bridges. Not a good thing, but Stoltenburg said “No negotiations. So now the Russian army is doing the negotiations. Tick Tick tick tick-tock tick-tock…. How many more days till Bakmut is over…????? How many more dead soldiers until this war draws to a close…????? What pieces will Ukraine lose?? It seems Crimea is lost forever along with Nuland’s face. Tune back in tomorrow…
“Yeah, the Ukies, separatists and Russians only killed 15,000 of their fellow Ukrainians, separatists and Russians still speaking Russian, Ukrainian and other languages.”
Fixed, no charge.
The first paragraph I agreed with (other then the ‘neo-Nazi’ term used).
The second paragraph I do not.
First. You are misusing the term ‘nazism’…as many do. ‘Nazism’ is – by definition – a German concept.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Nazism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
It does not apply outside of Germany except to those people who wish Nazi Germany to rise again.
Second – Biden my be a senile, stinking neocon. But he is not anti-semitic, racist, anti-Gypsy, advocating Aryan supremacy or homophobic. Nor is he advocating a return of Nazi Germany. His policies are not ‘nazism’.
Fascism? Possibly.
Neoconservatism? Definitely.
But not ‘Nazism’.
Third – American intervention in Ukraine (which I strongly disagree with) is nothing to do with Nazification. Again, it has NOTHING to do with the word.
It is to do with two principal things:
– propping up Biden’s sagging poll numbers.
– neocon ideologies.
And perhaps other reasons not proven.
But it is NOTHING to do with turning Ukraine into a form of Nazi Germany.
No doubt you/others will disagree with me.
No doubt, you/they will be wrong on this.
Good day.
The mobsters (like the Azov gang) in Ukraine who wear Nazi paraphernalia on their “uniforms” and communicate via far right slogans and gestures are admirers of the Nazi mentality.
Are you a lawyer or a political operative? Because you dance around the truth like one.
BTW, are you of primarily Russian descent?
Yes or no, please.
For the record, my mother was Canadian.
My father was a Brit.
And I call America home.
Blinken “violently” agrees with “Cleverly” and McCarthy on supporting endless bloodshed in Ukraine to support–here come the buzz words– “freedom and democracy in Ukraine!” But that’s not funny. What’s funny is when you realize that they always used buzz words like that to make us feel good while they goad us into war. Words like “Great” before Britain and “United” before States. (Sarcasm alert)
We were waiting for the end of the world
Waiting for the end of the world, waiting for the end of the world
Dear Lord, I sincerely hope You’re coming
‘Cause You really started something
Elvis Costello , Waiting for the End of the World, 1977
John Joseph Mearsheimer seems to agree: https://youtu.be/1gKrCmQT1s4
If American and British politicians are making a big show of unwaving support it must be close to being over.
Whenever politician make those kinds of statements it means they are getting ready to pull support really quickly when things start going badly.
If they aren’t able to prespin a upcoming victory as they have been throughout the war (the victories never matched what we were told) then this new battle is really going to go poorly for Ukraine and even the West knows it will.
We are going to have two forces conducting Spring offensives and “our” side is predicted to do poorly whereas those eeevil Russians aren’t even are getting the same treatment with predictions of failure in regards to their’s.
Add in Western politician’s words of never-ending support and this is going to end quickly…perhaps?
This joint statement of agreement is a measure of Neocon security in their own ascendancy, regardless how great their criminality.
Their hubris. It is coming to the traditional outcome for hubris in the ancient tragedies.
Cleverly and Blinken… You just can’t make this sh*t up 😉 Then there’s the third member of the trio: Nod, who is in the Oval, …., nodding.
lol OB1
Blinken also disputed the notion that support for Ukraine in Washington was waning, pointing to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) recently expressing strong support for backing Kyiv. “I would refer you, for example, just recently to the very strong statement made by the Speaker of the House McCarthy about support for Ukraine and the enduring support and determination to see this through,” he said.
That brought about a chuckle. Blinken has to refer to a man who would bury his nose up any ass put in front of him if it would get him power.
Lol, Wars; exactly what I thought. And aside for their mutual support for death and destruction, when has ByeDone ever had a positive thing to say about McBarfy?
Have you read this yet? Careful, it might make you ill.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-house-speaker-cancels-nakba-day-event-capitol-building
Yes, I DID read it Wars, and my stomach pushed the ejection button 😐
“US, UK Affirm Support for Battle to Last Ukrainian”
Eventually Putin and Xi will become weary of these shenanigan’s coming out of the West. The question is then what? The U.S. and British governments painting a rosy Ukraine picture for their public to consume. Doesn’t avert the catastrophic outcome that will eventually be had. If they don’t try to negotiate in good faith some kind of amicable solution. The West gambled and lost. Now we have a multipolar world. So much for the globalist agenda.
Eventually? They did. And what they did is the Ukraine War. As a starter.
How badly can Biden bungle this? How much can he lose? He seems to be ambitious, to make it the biggest possible disaster.
I’m just pointing out. It can get much worse.
At least the Axis of Evel aren’t hiding their true intentions anymore.
They can go down with their Titanic, but they cannot by pretending make it not sink. They hit the iceberg, and it is going down no matter what they say or do.
Actually, their stubborn attitude might be a good thing. I’d like to see them go down with it.
I just fear for all the collateral damage they might do to others as they meet their disaster.
London and Washington are led by morons.
These are student politicians. That’s all they know and all they’ve ever known, since they were teenagers.
Their key skill is how to campaign and try to win elections, rigged or not (they don’t care).
We aren’t taking about the brightest bulbs.
Unfortunately, these are the people who we in the west have entrusted to protect our interests.
OH DEAR.
Now, we in the west have to trust these nerds against the full might of the Russian military machine and against guys like Putin, Patrushev, Lavrov etc.
We haven’t got a chance. We do have the people who can parlay with the superior Russian & Chinese talent, but they’re ignored.
For the moment.
The US would not have to parlay if they learned to mind their own business and bringing death where they never should be. Oh,I forget Capitalism needs markets and raw materials and cheap labor and our missiles and Aircraft carriers insure the willingness of other peoples or look out.
Are they morons, or are they worse?
How deep is the cynicism? How complete is the corruption?
You give them credit when you suggest they are honest morons.
Good point!
Alexander Mercouris makes an interesting point on YouTube: various people in the White House and its orbit may be pushing for the offensive to get an excuse for abandoning the hawkish stance.
“Well, we did everything we could, supplied the Ukies, but look what a disaster. Now it’s time for negotiations.”
Not Antony Blinken, though. He’s been pushing for this offensive, pressuring Zelensky. He clearly wants this to succeed.
But this is reality, not a movie.
-Ukraine has no air support.
-Russia’s commander spent months in the winter building several lines of defenses. An attacker should have a three-to-one advantage when attacking, especially under these circumstances, but Ukraine will go in even without air support.
-Ukraine has depleted its Russian-made air defense missiles, as Russia wisely targeted the power grid, knowing Ukraine then had to spend its missiles. This is seen in how Russian planes can now fly much freer over Ukraine, and drop bombs, which have a far bigger payload than missiles or artillery.
-Russia now has a ten-to-one artillery advantage. NATO countries are hopelessly incapable of supplying Ukraine with enough shells. Ukraine has also been very wasteful with shells, against NATO recommendations.
-Russia now has half a million men, as opposed to the beginning of the defense of Donbass when they had much fewer than the Ukrainians.
-The original Ukrainian army, trained for years, is long gone. Those men are all dead or wounded or captured.
-Zelensky sacrificed enormous numbers of lives and supplies in Bakhmut, the “meat grinder”. (It turns out that Russia actually had an “Operation Meatgrinder” to wear down Ukraine in Bakhmut, and that’s where the word comes from.) He called Bakhmut absolutely crucial, so he threw in all the conscripted slaves he could, and failed.
What then do you carry out a successful offensive with?
Please post the unbiased link that shows that Russia currently has 10 times the artillery deployed of the Ukrainian forces?
The US does not win war’s and with it being chased out of Afghanistan both China and Russia know what a spectacular failure the US is…
It’s rapidly becoming apparent “until the last Ukrainian” was meant quite literally.
“Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his British counterpart, James Cleverly,that the US and Britain will continue supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia regardless of the result of Kyiv’s expected counteroffensive.”
A wimp and the bottom of the bell curve, how interesting!
The week before D-Day, June 1, 1944, Germany controlled the whole of Western Europe save the poverty-stricken southern bits of Italy. Russia had not yet recovered even its own borders, by a long way.
So, did that mean that Germany was still winning? Nobody on that day, on either side, imagined there remained any way for Germany to win that war.
In fact, Hitler shot himself ten months later, as the Russians entered the ruins of Berlin. That had already been in the cards for everyone who was willing to understand the cards — including the German commander FM Gerd von Rundstedt, who the next week or so told Germany’s leaders, “Make peace you fools,” and got fired for saying that.
That is where Ukraine is today, and all the boasts about who holds what territory are just to avoid seeing it is 50,000 men about to “attack” 500,000, like another Mortain counterattack or Battle of the Bulge with even worse odds. The Germans made the same mistake of hopeless counterattack several times, hoping for a different result.