On Wednesday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launched his presidential bid to challenge President Biden in the 2024 Democratic primary and vowed to begin “unwinding” the American Empire.
In a speech announcing his run, Kennedy questioned President Biden’s motives in Ukraine and said it appeared the administration wanted to prolong the war. He said Ukraine was being treated as a “pawn” between two great powers.
Kennedy called for a scaling down of the US military presence around the globe. “I’m gonna bring the troops home, I’m gonna close the bases, and I’m gonna start investing in the US middle class,” he said.
Kennedy’s campaign website details his foreign policy vision. “As President, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will start the process of unwinding empire. We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another,” the website says.
“The military will return to its proper role of defending the homeland. We will end the proxy wars, bombing campaigns, covert operations, coups, paramilitaries, and everything else that has become so normal most people don’t know it’s happening. But it is happening, a constant drain on our strength,” it says.
Concerning Ukraine, the website says the “most important priority is to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people, victims of a brutal Russian invasion, and also victims of American geopolitical machinations going back at least to 2014.” It says Kennedy would try diplomacy and offer concessions to Russia, including an offer to “withdraw our troops and nuclear-capable missiles from Russia’s borders.”
Kennedy is starting the race with the support of 14% of voters who backed President Biden in 2020, according to a USA TODAY/Suffolk University poll. The poll says only 67% of the people who voted for Biden in 2020 plan to support him against his current Democratic challengers.
His foreign policy sounds good–if he could actually pull it off which is doubtful. His position on vaccinations was/is terible.
Have you done your own research?
TV and google provide as much evidence that RFK Jr’s vax position is terrible as they provide evidence that his war/empire position is terrible.
evidence does not matter, only propaganda matters
So they are both 50-50. Kennedy’s Vax position is dangerous. Period. It’s anti-science.
The anti-science CDC and the Medical Industrial Complex refuse to do scientific studies regarding vaccination, but Dr. Paul Thomas has:
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2021/PHdata/Tmy/2021HB-06423-R000216-Fronte,%20Susan-TMY.PDF
You don’t have to believe what TV and Google tell you about science anymore than you must believe them about war and empire.
Prominent Anti-Vaccine Pediatrician Dr. Paul Thomas Has License Suspended by the Oregon Medical Board
I’ll leave it to you find that–it’s real easy. There plenty of anti-vax people out there–they are dangerously deluded.
No kidding. Thomas is famous for having been punished for publishing his illegal peer reviewed study.
There are zero scientific studies that prove the safety of any vaccines.
Did you ever wonder why you and TV aren’t interested in scientific studies, but love to use the word “science” so much.
I use the word science, and believe science because it is responsible for many things that we have and enjoy, has made us safer, has found cures for diseases, etc. Of course, we have to make us of the things that have ben found. You believe what you want to believe, I’ll follow the science.
Yes you use the word, but you have no definition.
You use it as a meaningless slogan like TV does.
But it does have meaning. Science is a methodology.
Here is an example of it being used properly in a sentence: TV has never cited one study that uses the scientific method (double blind, control group, empirical, reproducible results) that proves any vaccine is safe and effective because it is illegal to use the scientific method to study vaccines.
I’ll leave it to you to find out why TV and the corporate state have prohibited scientific studies of vaccine effectiveness and safety. It’s not so easy to find, but surprisingly they’ve offered an official excuse.
So is an anti-war position. That’s so anti-scientific of you. All the brightest minds in the pentagon agree, we need to support Ukraine, you stupid conspiracy theorist!
Politics is not scientific, you fool. Epidemiology, vaccines are science. Even Kennedy’s relatives criticize Kennedy’s stance on vaccines. He’s dangerous. Like Trump but in his own way.
I have found my candidate for the Democratic primary. Do I agree with him on everything? Absolutely not. But his stance on the Empire might just save us from utter destruction, and that is far more important over silly fights over vaccines.
Biden is going to win, but at least my vote will follow my conscience. Bravo RFK!
Sounds good. His anti vax attitude aside, among things. Things do not look good for his survival should he win the White House and actually attempt what he says he will do. What happened to his uncle was a warning.
Anti-vax??,,RFK had a right to speak his mind, I had 3 shots and got covid twice afterward.
Hi Jay:
I am very glad you were able to endure and well done.
Yeah, he has a right to speak his mind. However, 6+ million souls died of SARS-cov 19, over 1million in the U.S. alone. Suppose there was no vaccine and we just let the virus “run its course”. I had 2 shots, got the Omicron variation of Covid, then got the booster. I am 79 and I tend not to tempt fate. I was ill for 3 days. When I was a kid I got the polio vaccine; sugar cube and injection. I also got the small pox vaccine, tetanus, etc. Before I could run track in college, I had to have the TB test, the bubble. Also, there was a time a person had to have the TB test, including an x-ray before employment. Covid is still around in the U.S. To date 1,128,000 persons in the U.S. have died of Covid.
So U now want to demonize RFK for his free speech and pin a medal on yourself for getting an injection U clearly want to FORCE others to do at any cost, right? Remember, the covid shot NEVER stopped the spread, so your argument is worthless. 🙂
“To date 1,128,000 persons in the U.S. have died of Covid.”
To be more specifically accurate, they have died while testing (sic) indicated they had (sic) covid in their system. Given the gross inaccuracy and unsuitability of the so-called ‘test’ and the blatant duplicity of what the deaths were officially attributed to, the figure you quote is extremely dubious. This is confirmed by the all cause death rate numbers that show little significant difference in overall mortality for the covid years with regard to any other years in the past.
The invention of Covid 19 will go down as one of the greatest crimes (over 7 million killed) in history. The vaccine looks to have been bogus all along; and, rather, a placebo to preclude mass panic.
It’s wonderful and while I have a great amount of respect for the man the thing is that you cannot ”unwind” the empire by joining it which is to try become the Democratic party nominee and announce up front that he will be their undoing.
Well, he sort of sounds like his father and uncle and we know what happened with that.
Learn from the past which is over, set our sights on the future bright.
You make a good point Bill but…. Having said that, perhaps we live in very different times now?…
Oh yes, the times are definitely different. But one thing never changes, the willingness of the Globalists/Elites/Deep Staters/War Industry, etc.. to protect their interests, and there is literally nothing they won’t do to protect themselves to make sure the power and money stays in their hands.
I imagine that all hell will break out should history repeat itself.
The governing elites are too old, too comfortable and set in their ways. If any younger generation (Biden is 80, let’s not even get into Congress ages), it would behoove them to tow the line otherwise they get sidelined or disappeared. The only way that ticket becomes a reality is if 80% of Congress and House of Rep. suffer some incurable sickness or get dementia and become physically disabled to waddle their old bones out of bed and into buildings. The old farts have such deep roots in the establishment that in order to uproot them you might have to physically demolish decision making centers so that they don’t have anywhere to go. I dunno how they are still allowed in public office at their ages and how they are still functioning. Must be that paedophilia or blood letting.
Different only in that the deep state is even more overtly evil now than it was 50 + years ago.
Even though we love in different times – Some things like the puppet masters haven’t changed it’s just a different generation yet following the same ideology.
We all know what happened to them and who was responsible – the problem here, is that the real culprits – plus the next generation – have never been held accountable.
I wish him well and hope he will succeed although I have my doubts about doing this from within the Duopoly since I consider the US electoral process to be a utterly flawed gerrymandered and whatever.
Sounds good to me. If he can deliver on just a portion of what he is talking about, it would be a very good change.
Ah f-ck, he just challenged the EMPIRE…!
The Kennedy family has some balls.
Why do I feel like I am in a Star Was movie?…. Inhale……
Me too. Where do I send the cheque?
Are you being facetious or serious?
Joking. I’ve already donated.
We have been holding our collective breath for all to long,, time to blow the MAN down.
We’re huffing and puffing my friend…
RFK and Tulsi 2024!!
Nice Combination…!
Imagine two honest people in the White House who place service above self-interest!
Here is Kennedy’s platform on Peace:
“It is time to end the imperial project and attend to all that has been neglected: the crumbling cities, the antiquated railways, the failing water systems, the decaying infrastructure, the ailing economy. Annual defense-related spending is close to one trillion dollars. We maintain 800 military bases around the world. The peace dividend that was supposed to come after the Berlin Wall fell was never redeemed. Now we have another chance.
“As President, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will start the process of unwinding empire. We will bring the troops home. We will stop racking up unpayable debt to fight one war after another. The military will return to its proper role of defending the homeland. We will end the proxy wars, bombing campaigns, covert operations, coups, paramilitaries, and everything else that has become so normal most people don’t know it’s happening. But it is happening, a constant drain on our strength. It’s time to come home and restore this country.
“America cannot be an empire abroad and continue to be a democracy at home.”
— Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
“In Ukraine, the most important priority is to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people, victims of a brutal Russian invasion, and also victims of American geopolitical machinations going back at least to 2014. Diplomacy has never really been tried. We will offer to withdraw our troops and nuclear-capable missiles from Russia’s borders. Russia will withdraw its troops from Ukraine and guarantee its freedom and independence. UN peacekeepers will guarantee peace to the Russian-speaking eastern regions. We will put an end to this war. We will put an end to the suffering of the Ukranian people. That will be the start of a broader program of demilitarization of all countries.
” Robert F. Kennedy will revive a lost thread of American foreign policy thinking, the one championed by his uncle, John F. Kennedy who, over his 1000 days in office, had become a firm anti-imperialist. He wanted to exit Vietnam. He defied the Joint Chiefs of Staff and refused to bomb Cuba, thus saving us from nuclear Armageddon. He wanted to reverse the imperialistic policies of Truman and Eisenhower, rein in the CIA, and support freedom movements around the world. He wanted to revive Roosevelt’s impulse to dissolve the British empire rather than take it over.”
https://www.kennedy24.com/peace
I haven’t voted Dem in quite a while but I believe that’s a ticket I could support. 1,000% better than the Biden/Harris ticket.
The last mainstream candidate I voted for in a November presidential election was McGovern in 1972. This ticket has promise. And it could launch a credible third party if Kennedy is frozen out of the Democratic nomination.
How do feel about Tulsi’s links to YGL?
Has Tulsi Gabbard Adequately Addressed The WEF Young Global Leader Question? [Vagabond]
IMO she hasn’t.
None of the “progressives” shifted policy inside the Democratic party. This will not happen with RFK either. The system is too corrupt and corrupting. Both parties are controlled by the war machine.
True. But let’s enjoy someone saying things out loud that nobody else has the balls to do so.
Except MSM will insure it won’t be heard.
Which is why WE are HERE.
If a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound?
Of course it does…Well, maybe not…
He’s running for president from a major party. They can’t possibly keep it from being heard for long.
Remember Sanders?
If Bernie would have been saying those things he would have been heard. He had the platform. Anyone running from one of our two parties that are allowed to win will have the stage at some point. Now ask me about Jo Jorgensen.
Bernie had a lot of good things to say but was blacklisted and barely covered by MSM. Trump and Clinton sucked up all of the oxygen. As far as Jorgensen or Stein, for that matter, corporate media won’t cover outsiders except to deride them. It’s not where they put their money.
Didn’t Bernie participate in debates? Wasn’t he in primaries? He was heard. And you confirmed why I brought up Jorgensen. She was indeed ignored because she was lacking an R or D next to her name. Not Bernie. And that’s why Kennedy will be heard. He might not be listened to, but they won’t be able to ignore what he says. Isn’t Trump a perfect example? Take that R away from his name and he would have been treated like Jorgensen.
I agree that the duopoly puts roadblocks to getting on a debate stage.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-the-hell-how-third-p_b_11277474
But how many people watch these debates without having already been greased and relentlessly propagandized about how to perceive the candidates?
Sanders pretty much built momentum without corporate attention. Sadly he squandered that. He was treated as a nut who couldn’t win and this was on Democratic party corporate news. When an audience is told ad nauseam that someone can’t win, they internalize it, believe it.
“But how many people watch these debates without having already been greased and relentlessly propagandized about how to perceive the candidates?”
Exactly. That was my point about him not being “heard”. But he will have the platform to speak to millions whereas third party candidates don’t.
I don’t think we are fundamentally disagreeing except that I don’t think debates hold more power than the constant drumbeat of corporate manipulation.
I think all of the third parties should be heard.
I’ve been reading your comments for quite a while. We don’t disagree on much, if anything. This included. I think it was more of a semantic thing. Yes, Kennedy will be vilified to no end. The vaccination thing alone will be played to the hilt.
He’s a good man and therefore has little to no chance … the core of the Dem party supporters vote as they are told.
Re his views on vaccines … questioning vaccine need and effectiveness and side effects and corruption of the approval processes are necessary and proper, esp in the post Covid era.
Most likley true, but the Kennedy legacy still has appeal to many older Dems.
I was fascinated that he mentioned Peter Duesberg in that book.
I admire his courage although I question his prudence. Both his uncle and his father tried to alter the course of the US empire and I fear his attempt will be dealt with in the same manner. To do this from the belly of the beast is futile and his entirely correct opposition to State actions on the covid issue will just make him even more of a target.
I imagine he is going to make his cases to the public before he acts on them so that we all will be keeping our eyes on the villins.
My inclination as well, having said that, he demonstrates he has tremendous courage and he seems to be undaunted.
Just remember that little ant. High hopes.
Fair enough, fair enough….
Good, you’ll get my vote F%$% Joe Biden.
I have found my candidate for the Democratic primary. Do I agree with him on everything? Absolutely not. But his stance on the Empire might just save us from utter destruction, and that is far more important over silly fights over vaccines.
Biden is going to win, but at least my vote will follow my conscience. Bravo RFK!
I would vote for him even if this is his entire platform. Withdrawing our fangs might grant us the focus and resources to address real problems across the globe.
You betcha. I’m not sure I’m with him on the vaccination thing or the Fauci thing but it doesn’t matter. He’s saying the right thing about winding down the empire. That’s what matters
I can’t believe he said that out loud. He has my vote.
I concur.
I’ve been waiting to hear someone say it. About time.
He has no chance but these type of candidacies have the potential to bring up issues that a Party may adopt as a whole or a large part may decide they want something and force it onto their Party.
Will he be able to revive the Left’s aversion to war or is that now the forte of the populist Right?
Donation sent!
Now Mr Kennedy, please please please don’t let them assassinate you.
fire alarm mysteriously goes off while RFKjr is denouncing the MIC
http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/04/fire-alarm-goes-off-as-rfk-jr-exposes.html
This is how it starts…
How about “I’m gonna bring taxes down”?
“I’m gonna bring infaltion to 2%”
“I’m gonna bring the southern border wall to completion”?
“I’m gonna bring all illegal immigrants back to their home countries”?
“I’m gonna bring traitors within the USA to justice”
All that bullshit and more will spew like rancid feces from the mainstream, so you won’t be disappointed.
The day people realize the mascot on the cereal box has no control over the contents of the box will be a great day for “democracy”
I have heard so many good things about RFK, I kinda just assumed he was a republican or libertarian. I only just now realized he’s a democrat. I have never been so tempted to vote democrat.
Let us wait and see if he continues with this as his theme.
It is a good start. Nothing more
But also nothing less 🙂
Wait until the WSJ does a nasty editorial on RFK Jr. the way they did recently on DeSantis. DeSantis folded in no time on Piers Morgan’s show.
He sure isn’t a typical democrat. Thankfully. This is the only chance voting has a prayer. The good people out there need to throw an “R” or “D” next to their name.
As the saying goes, when it comes to the Democratic party, I didn’t leave them. They left me.
Our political system is no longer about you, me and everyone else… Politics is about money and power, plain and simple. That is where the lines between to the two parties becomes blurred.
He’s got my vote. I’m a single-issue voter, pretty much, and if he is aware of the problem he probably has some good solutions in mind. I will, once again, attempt to kick the football.
Me too. If that single issue got resolved all other issues would be that much easier to deal with.
Watched the whole thing. Brings back memories of two other Democrats I liked, and for the same reasons.
Perhaps Kennedy’s campaign will gain enough steam to influence Biden.
Then again, the war is definitely heating up. There is a chance that Ukraine will no longer be in the news a year from now.
Seeing is believing. How many past presidents campaigned on a similar platform only to disappoint?
I think the larger problem with this MM is that these candidates answer to more than the people, they answer to their politically motivated donors, who have specific agendas, most of which to do not include US. to me it is one of the major flaws in our system and I love DEMOCRACY….
I agree. Our politicians are bought, paid for, and controlled by special interests. I don’t love democracy. It easily morphs into a tyranny of the majority over the minority, and when the majority of people are not good, it becomes oppression for the minority of good people. I see this happening at even the grass roots level every day. The media controls the minds of most people.
That will be a hard NO from me.
Yes, he was a good temporary ally to have during the three years of COVID authoritarianism, but this is the same Kennedy who wanted jail climate skeptics and have them hauled in front of an international tribunal.
Also, let’s get real, he ain’t getting the Democrat Party nomination. The media will either ignore him or portray him as Lyndon LaRouche 2.0. Also, the Kennedy name doesn’t have the mystique to it that once had, and even then, the Camelot thing was just PR fluff or as JFK’s contemporary critics would put it, “All profile and no courage.”