Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday demanded that European countries provide more military aid and add more sanctions on Russia, warning that not doing so would prolong the war.
Zelensky said in a virtual address to EU leaders that they should provide longer-range weapons and Western-made fighter jets. He thanked Slovakia and Poland for providing Soviet-made MiG-29 planes but said Kyiv needs “modern aircraft.”
“Is there rational motivation for the protraction in providing modern aircraft?” the Ukrainian leader said. He dismissed concerns about Russia potentially escalating the war in response to such support, pointing to the provision of German-made Leopard tanks.
“Remember how many Russian threats there were when it came to the transfer of Leopards and other tanks – more advanced than those our soldiers had previously. These more advanced tanks are already in Ukraine. So, what did Russia do in response? We all have to get used to the fact that a terrorist state bluffs more often than it can escalate,” he said.
Zelensky sharpened his rhetoric when discussing sanctions and criticized the EU for not adding more. “The protraction with new European sanctions packages is becoming increasingly troublesome,” he said.
The Ukrainian leader claimed that efforts are “not yet sufficient” to prevent Russia from circumventing sanctions and that other countries will think they can ignore sanctions. “That’s why sanctions must be expanded. There cannot be even a slight hint of delaying decisions on sanctions,” he demanded.
Zelensky also demanded that there “must be no slackening of sanctions,” especially in the name of “food security.” Western sanctions on both Russia and Belarus have impeded grain and fertilizer shipments, and the UN wants to ease sanctions to get more agricultural goods to Africa and elsewhere around the world.
Zelensky concluded his frustrated address by claiming if Europe doesn’t act quickly enough, “evil may have time to regroup and prepare itself for years of war.”
Maybe he should ask for some Gucci gym shorts instead. Those moderns weapons are mucho dinero.
Maybe he should ask for some Gucci gym shorts instead. Those moderns weapons are mucho dinero.
In other news, the sky is really blue. This is getting so old. If he wants to continue this stupid war, don’t drag other countries in with him.
So Z insists the deal where Russia allows Ukraine grain exports via the Black Sea in exchange for no obstructions to their ag exports be totally violated by the west. Maybe Russia should totally violate it too.
What’s left for Russia to violate? Russia has already violated all the rules in its one year failed invasion.
Zelensky demands, “give me more!” I guess the kitchen remodel in his Swiss chalet is running over budget and not yet up to the standard he and his wife can accept for when they finally grab their loot and go into exile with all the other oligarchs.
Can’t wait for the responding headline. “EU demands that Zelensky shut the F up!”
Or perhaps he is asking for more because Russia is investing more in the invasion of Ukraine. Zelensky doesn’t have and will not go into exile. The way things are going in Russia, Putin will probably go into exile first.
” HIMARS HIMARS HIMARS are a Hype, Ukraine will never take Kherson!!” Lol
He is asking for more because he knows he can’t win unless the west changes course and gives him weapons that he can use to actually defeat Russia. And the west has made it known since day one that that wasn’t going to happen. They don’t want direct conflict with Russia but they’re ok with letting Ukraine be destroyed if it weakens them. This too has been stated. And you are ok with that.
Agree, and to your question, Im not ok with that. In my opinion, The EU will not abandon Ukraine, at least not anytime soon. And again, i just dont hold one side accountable. I hold every fcking one.
EDIT: I’m ok with Ukraine continue fighting for its independence and freedom for as long as they choose to. It’s their country, they should know better than anybody when enough is enough. Not you, not me.
Whether the EU or US “abandon” Ukraine doesn’t matter. They aren’t supporting them enough to defeat Russia and they won’t. I don’t know why you want them to continue to die.
Zelensky: “Send more weapons and money from your bottom less pit.”
“So I can send some to my bank account outside of Ukraine” Pandora Papers revealed much about Mr. Z.
“Evil” used Minsk I & II to allow Kiev Banderites to reload. A delaying tactic. Outed by Merkel.
https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2023-03-24/Bloomberg-bivshij-glava-MID-KNR
Former Chinese foreign minister urges Europe to play its part in supporting peace talks
Oh, they will – just as soon as they finish playing Uncle Sam’s favorite hookers.
“” Zelensky demanded that European countries provide more military aid and add more sanctions on Russia “”
demanded. sure thing boss whatever you say!
Dickhead says what? Never mind looking at it, Thomas. Just delete it and be done with it. Our ability to express ourselves in English is diminished by the small Bot-Minds which edit our thoughts a little more every day.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/764c117f-6796-4f72-bcbd-25e192b67475
He must be funneling arms into some groups in Caucases, This is the card US is not willing to give up.
If we don’t kiss his rump he makes a deal with China, he’s playing the whole damn world like a bunch of chumps. What was the last offer we made thirty or fourth billion was it ?
He must have the goods on the Biden family.
Zelensky act like a mercenary fighting the war for NATO with the hope that after everything is finished, he will be ordained. Just like when he sent troops to participate in Iraq’s attack.
What goes around sure as hell comes around!
Europe to Zelensky:
Go f*ck yourself. We’ve tired of your demands.
I’m waiting for Zelenskyy to say:
‘You know….we had nuclear weapons once. Any chance we could have some again? We’ll be responsible with them. Promise.’
Actually, they did have them when the USSR collapsed, but surrendered them for independence.
I believe they surrendered them as part of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum – i.e. somewhat after independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Unless you have thoroughly vetted it, Wikipedia is unreliable.
The Budapest memorandum wasn’t an act of the Duma, it merely gave assurances to the NPT.
There are many other sources referencing the Budapest memorandum – it indeed registered as a treaty with the UN:
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=0800000280401fbb
The full text can be read here:
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf
So was indeed not an act of the Duma but an international treaty.
Not an act of the Duma, but not really an international “treaty” either. Rather, it was a sub-treaty level international agreement, and the document themselves are officially styled “Memoranda” and are referred to as memoranda of understanding, and sometimes also as “poltical agreeements.” The parties simply “reaffirmed” various bromidic statements, and, except with respect to the final and trivial article relating to “consultations” in cases of disputes arising out of it, consisted almost entirely of reiterations of prior existing commitments, and failed to specify any penalty for violations.
Not an act of the Duma, but the Budapest Agreements are not really international “treaties” either. Rather, they a series of sub-treaty level international agreements, and the documents themselves are officially styled “Memoranda,” and are referred to as memoranda of understanding, and sometimes also as “poltical agreeements.” The parties simply “reaffirmed” various bromidic statements, and, except with respect to the final and trivial article relating to “consultations” in cases of disputes arising out of them, they consisted almost entirely of reiterations of prior existing commitments, and failed to specify any penalty for violations.
IMO, this is more reliable: hks.harvard.edu/publications/what-happened-soviet-superpowers-nuclear-arsenal-clues-nuclear-security-summit
So even according to your source the nukes were not handed over to get recognition:
That US-Russian cooperation was what led to the Budapest treaty (called the Budapest Memorandum).
Did you notice that it was the Russian Federation rather than the USSR that signed the Budapest memorandum?
Yes – the USSR did not exist when the Budapest memorandum was signed – indeed it did not exits by the time the source you referenced first mentioned the problem of getting these nukes under control.
I never referenced anything that mentioned the problem of getting any nuke under control.
Your Harvard source (the one linked below) mentions this!
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/what-happened-soviet-superpowers-nuclear-arsenal-clues-nuclear-security-summit
Can you quote it doing so?
I have already done so but I’ll happily repeat it:
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/what-happened-soviet-superpowers-nuclear-arsenal-clues-nuclear-security-summit
Follow the link to down load the entire text and you will find it.
“When the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine turned over thousands of atomic weapons in exchange for security guarantees from Russia.” nytimes.com/2022/02/05/science/ukraine-nuclear-weapons.html
Yes these security guarantees were documented in the Budapest Memorandum – is it that you do not trust the UN any more than wikipedia?
You are one more ad hominem from being blocked.
Do it man. The guy will drive you crazy. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon.
Pigeons have better things to do than play games that free software can beat a master of:-)
The USSR was long gone before the Russian Federation signed the Budapest memorandum.
They were documented in but not created by the memorandum.
They were the product of the protracted negotiations between the US, Russia and the new nations that had sprung into existence after the breakup of the Soviet Union. It is hence just plain wrong to say that the nukes were handed over as part of getting independence.
I.e. the USSR played no role in this, and it had nothing to do with Russia acknowledging the independence of the new states. As indeed documented by the quote I lifted from the source you provided.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/what-happened-soviet-superpowers-nuclear-arsenal-clues-nuclear-security-summit
Then you are admitting they weren’t in the text of the memorandum?
Have you read the memorandum?
What is not in the text of the memorandum?
And yes I have read the memorandum.
You read the memorandum but not the instant post you are replying to?
English is not my first language – I have read the posts I reply to, what are you getting at here, is there something I have misread?
Your arguments collapse when they become ad hominem attacks.
How is it a ad hominem attack to ask whether you do not trust UN?
It was you making it about me that made it so. You were attempting to discredit me because you couldn’t refute my argument.
I refuted your argument, I did not make it about you, I merely asked if you had problems with the new source I had provided, when you pointed out that my first source was not of good quality.
You haven’t demonstrated that you vetted any of your sources.
Calling any doubt I had about your unvetted sources into doubt made it about me.
So is it that you do not trust the UN or the Harvard source you provided yourself – or just what is it that you have problems with???
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/what-happened-soviet-superpowers-nuclear-arsenal-clues-nuclear-security-summit
Is it that you want me to document the process whereby I arrived at the conclusion that wikipedia was indeed an ok source for this, in that case I can tell you that this is something I did more than a year ago when I debated this subject the first time.
And you are worried about being repetitive?
Just a bit when engaging in a bit of what looks a bit like a Gish-gallop.
Calling my post a “Gish-gallop” isn’t committing an ad hominem, I suppose?
I’m not calling your post a Gish-gallop – I’m calling the very high number of individual replies to one original reply, something that looks a bit like a Gish-gallop – if you read that once again you will see that this does not point to you as the culprit, it merely points out that the whole exchange can look a bit like it.
It actually is not one as neither you nor I raise a lot of different unrelated issues.
At least I cited mine.
Sure – I also cited a source – wikipedia – which as you pointed out needs to be checked, which I have done repeatedly, so had no problems doing so again.
You didn’t cite it in the same post that you quoted it in.
No Id did not, I mentioned a source in my first reply, and have since backed it up in other replies to you, is it that you require that I put it in all replies? It might get a bit repetitive if I do.
Repetitive beats inept every time.
Is this not an ad hominem?
Nope, just a statement of fact.
In that case I hope this is also just taken as a statement of a fact:
reading what is written and committing it to memory beats repetitiveness every time.
Only in your own personal universe where it makes sense.
Ad hominem.
You didn’t document your having repeatedly checking anything that you quoted from Wikipedia.
I have documented the claim made in wikipedia, using your source and using UN as a source. Which part of the claim that the nukes were handed over as a consequence of the negotiations which led to the Budapest Memorandum is it that you are questioning?
Why would Wikipedia not have done so?
Have they not done so?
Did you strip their footnotes out of what you quoted?
Naturally.
I know that.
That is why I said ‘we had nuclear weapons once’.
We still do.
He’s already done this, in Munich on 19Feb2022. That might have been the last straw for Putin.
Ukraine has received security guarantees for abandoning the world’s third nuclear capability. We don’t have that weapon. We also have no security. We also do not have part of the territory of our state that is larger in area than Switzerland, the Netherlands or Belgium. And most importantly – we don’t have millions of our citizens. We don’t have all this.
Therefore, we have something. The right to demand a shift from a policy of appeasement to ensuring security and peace guarantees.
Since 2014, Ukraine has tried three times to convene consultations with the guarantor states of the Budapest Memorandum. Three times without success. Today Ukraine will do it for the fourth time. I, as President, will do this for the first time. But both Ukraine and I are doing this for the last time. I am initiating consultations in the framework of the Budapest Memorandum. The Minister of Foreign Affairs was commissioned to convene them. If they do not happen again or their results do not guarantee security for our country, Ukraine will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum is not working and all the package decisions of 1994 are in doubt.
https://kyivindependent.com/zelenskys-full-speech-at-munich-security-conference/
This is from the horse’s mouth:
Yevgeny Prigozhin denied claims Russia is fighting NATO and questioned whether there are actually Nazis in Ukraine.”
Again, it shows the justification for the invasion was all BS.
Prigozhin is ruthless and brutally honest when his speak and his recent beef with the Kremlin shows that the war isn’t going well for Putin.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/03/24/wagner-boss-openly-defies-kremlin-ukraine-nazi-narrative
Bet your rear end, there will be a campaign (including here) now to discredit Prigozhin.
This is AFAIK the Russian language source for this story – just in case someone does not trust western media:
https://t.me/concordgroup_official/635%C2%A0%C2%A0
The story was also reported in English in some detail here:
https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-23-2023
Thanks for the additional backing sources.
He is the best the Kremlin had in the frontlines. The Kremlin cut off his umbilical cord and kept him from culminating in Bakhmut. He’s now gone rogue and if there is no reconciliation, he will be discredited.
Here’s an example from that article:
“It is ridiculous to think” that Russian officials did not know NATO would come to Kyiv’s aid, the ISW quoted Prigozhin as saying.
If they quoted him, where is the rest of the quote?
Another:
He expressed doubt about “denazification” objectives in Ukraine, unsure “Nazis” were in the country, while “effectively rejecting” the long-standing Kremlin claims that Russia needs to defend itself against a NATO threat.
Where is the whole quote?
Look at you, desperately dissecting this. It would not change anything even If I pull the actual audio.
I know Wars, it is too much for you to accept.
It shows how disappointed you are on what’s going on in the Russian side. The war not going as you would like it to be.
I responded to what you posted. And it has nothing to do with the war not going as I would like. I check links posted and if they reek of bullsh*t, I point it out. There wasn’t a complete sentence that had quote marks around it, so I found it very questionable. Simple as that.
If you truly meant it that way. I stand corrected.
I got the original video/audio but it’s on russian. Im looking for one with English subtitles.
It’s my only point because what that guy said means nothing. You base everything being bullsh*t based on what one man says as if that was some kind of revelation. I’m sure you could find plenty of Russians that say the same thing. The same way you could find Ukrainians saying what fools their government is for getting in bed with the west.
We know there are, or at least WERE, Nazis in the Ukraine- Western news media was all over the stories exposing them in the years prior to the Russians rolling up. Add to that, after the shooting started so many Ukrainian ‘heroes’ were outed as Nazis and were quickly removed from the media rotation. At this point, the only reason I can think of why Prigozhin would question a Nazi presence is that most of them are dead already. In that case, Mission (nearly) Accomplished.
Prigozhin merely stated the the fact that there was nothing worse in Ukraine than you will find in Russia – there are Nazi’s in all countries, Russia more so than many, the notion that Ukraine needed to have the weeded out is thus patently absurd, more so as the Russians attacking the Ukrainians is what drove much of the last wave towards the right, and hence this SMO will only make things worse for the future.
This guy went to school with Hillary Clinton, or what?
zelensky regime drafted a man with no hands to fight the russians
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=63658
The West should continue its support of weapons. Zelensky has done a great job in giving Russia a historical black eye in the battlefield. More help will have a huge return on investment for the West as they won’t have to fear the paper tiger anymore, just its nukes which saves on annual defense budgets.
The beating Zelensky has given to Putin will translate into at least another 10-20 years before Russia can even consider going back to Ukraine for round 2 but even then, it will be a bigger challenge as Ukraine will not de-militarize and rather become one of the strongest and more modernized Armies in the region. Regardless of Putin keeping the stolen land, the Kremlin will probably never again dare to consider invading or threatning the Baltics, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and of course Ukraine.
Mr. Putin should pull his troops out and BRING THEM HOME.
Good speech. Not based on reality but good, nonetheless. More help will kill more Ukrainians but it’s good that you think that investment will net a huge return even though the help will never be enough and that’s by design. The west still has fears about “just its nukes” and won’t escalate to the point of having a direct conflict with Russia. But your good with that.
No based on reality? It depends on whose reality.
Reality as saying something based on what is actually happening now. Things better change drastically for that pipe dream you printed to become reality.
Zelensky Tells Europe Give More Cocaine and Add Sanctions on Ukraine
More weapons to the Ukraine? Hm, let me think about it a while. [one second later] No.
“Zelensky Tells Europe Give More Weapons and Add Sanctions on Russia The Ukrainian leader says there ‘cannot be even a slight hint’ in delay when it comes to new sanctions”
If Adolph Hitler had that magic potion that charmed the world he would own the world today.
Both Zelensky and Hitler closed all opposition newspapers and news outlets. They both outlawed all competing opposition parties and jailed the opposition. They both fomented a war with Russia.
If Hitler had only made a deal with British and American bankers to takeover the Soviet Union and give part of Germany to the American and British Bankers he would have been in a sweet spot just like Zelensky.
The allies punished Germany at the Treaty of Versailles and thought that when Hitler rose to power he had “No Clothing Covering His Naked Aggression”.
History will record that Zelensky also has “No Cloths to Cover his Naked Aggression” against Slavic Ukrainians and Hungarians.
Yes boys and girls, the Ukrainian nationalist fascist are also committing ethnic cleansing against Hungarians. They are a much smaller population in Ukraine and have nobody to champion their lives and culture.
Zeleneskyy has demonstrably not outlawed all competing opposition parties – only the ones that argued for collaboration with the Russians – he also have not jailed leaders of other non government parties – but like the UK which also locked up e.g. Oswald Mosley he has locked up one who argued for collaboration with Putin and he did that only after Putin had attacked.
Hitler did all of these things while Germany was not at war, while Zelenskyy only did some of these things in a way comparable to what the UK did during WWII after the Russians had invaded Ukraine.
But there is an other actor who resembles Hitler in these ways – your idol: Putin – he even has his own parallel to the Hitler youth – and he has nothing covering his naked aggression – whereas Zelenskyy had managed to significantly reduce the number of civilians killed in the conflict going on in the Donbas.
Only a retarded person would take the route you have taken, congratulations you are a retard! Perhaps you should travel to Ukraine and volunteer to be cannon fodder for your hero Zelensky.
I have no hero and need none to satisfy my life as it is not a shabby alcove with no adventure or entertaining events. You obviously love Ukrainian fascists who duck tape Slavic people to utility poles and beat them to death or use artillery to kill over 15,000 Slavic Ukrainian citizens and an untold number of Hungarian Ukrainian citizens.
If you live in your safe space in America like living in a glass jar it might be understandable as the large megawatt propaganda speaker has infected your brain.
You obviously have a perverted need to compare Zelenskyy to Hitler though that glove fits Putin orders of magnitude better – so if you are tooting Putin’s horn I call you a Putin fan boy.
The Ukrainians are a Slavic people the 15000 were killed on both sides mostly in 2014 and 2015 – very few were killed after Zelenskyy got elected. I do not love Ukrainian fascists – I take Prigozhin’s word for their absence – the case for them being much of a factor after the election in 2019 where they lost their last seat in parliament was always weak.
I have yet to hear that any in the Hungarian minority have lost anything beyond the right to have schools taught in Hungarian language only. I live in Denmark and have not been subject to propaganda to any appreciable degree – most of the Propaganda has been that of Putin taking actions and our media just reporting on it.
Once again proving your self to be a troll of nefarious western propaganda organizations.
The Ukrainians are not ALL Slavic people only people who live mostly in Eastern Ukraine are Slavic and mostly Russian. Western Ukraine has a mix of Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, and Ukrainian. Of the 43 million Ukrainians who started out in Ukraine there are fewer than 20 millions still in country and more and more Russian Slavic people in Eastern Ukraine, which was always part of the Russian Empire before 1917.
So Mr. MI-6 retard, enjoy your tea and crumpets in London as you troll away. Perhaps you should try acting instead of trolling.
You are miss/un-informed – the Poles are also a Slavic people as are the Ukrainians.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Slav
So always is for almost 200 years – not very impressive – but then again you are not properly informed; eastern part of Ukraine was actually part of Russia even before Russia became an empire (which it did in 1721) as it came under Russian rule in according to a treaty signed in 1667 (though not ratified by the Poles until 1764).
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/Lithuanian-and-Polish-rule
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-Cossacks
The actual change in the population i.e. Russian migration into Ukraine actually predominantly happened in the Soviet times with the industrialization of the Donbas.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-famine-of-1932-33-Holodomor
So always is somewhere between 250 – 196 and 153 years. So Mr. Misinformation try reading up on stuff before showing the rest of us your ignorance.
I am done with you Mr. MI-6 Troll. Go pedal your tripe in Ukraine of to gullible uneducated English people.
Uneducated tripe is your trademark – you may be done with me, but I’ll keep pointing out the errors of your posts – one of these apparently being that you believe that I’m somehow in or linked to UK – I’m not which reading my comments would have told you.
I don’t have to know the difference between Catholic Poles or Ukrainians and Russian Orthodox Slavic Russians. In Eastern Pennsylvania each ethnic group segregates by choice. No one considers Poles or Ukrainians to be true Slavic people and vice versa. Poles and Ukrainians do not want to claim that heritage and the Russian Orthodox do claim that heritage.
Poles and Ukrainians have their own culture, languages, churches, cemeteries, and schools based on their ethnic groups.
You can take your Anglo-Saxon book and stick it! We all know who we are!
Things in the rest of the world does not necessarily conform to how they are in Eastern Pennsylvania – if you want to use the terms you have to use them as they are defined and used internationally.
But good of you to acknowledge that you use special definitions based on how people in Eastern Pennsylvania self sort, and do not actually feel obliged to know how things are defined.
In case you haven’t noticed yet, “Critical Thinker” is neither.