German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said Tuesday that Germany and its allies are “fighting a war against Russia” in rare candid remarks about the Western role in the conflict.
Baerbock made the comments at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, France, while discussing the criticism her government has faced for its hesitancy to send tanks, although that impasse has been broken as Berlin confirmed Wednesday it will send its Leopard 2 tanks.
“And therefore, I’ve said already in the last days — yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine. Yes, we have to do more also on tanks,” Baerbock said. “But the most important and the crucial part is that we do it together and that we do not do the blame game in Europe, because we are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other.”
Baerbock’s remarks align with Russia’s view that it is not just fighting Ukrainian forces in the conflict but also the US and NATO. Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov made similar comments recently, saying that Ukraine is “shedding blood” for a “NATO mission.”
The idea that NATO is directly involved in the war signals Russia has the pretext to launch an attack on a NATO country in retaliation if they choose to take that step. There’s no sign that Russia is plotting to do so, but the Western powers continue to risk dangerous escalations as they continue to ramp up military support for Ukraine and as the US is discussing helping Ukraine attack Crimea.
I’m certain that Germany has made such declarations before… And we are all appreciative of their insights and concerns but I am having trouble hearing the word I want to hear most: DIPLOMACY or how about Peace Talks?……………………………….. World War III is not something I want any of us to experience.
NATO (the USA) is just working overtime to make sure there is no way to avoid a world war. We are browbeating allies into putting their entire population at risk. For… The concept of national sovereignty? For a nation that’s not an ally?
What is the endgame? Why does it seem like WW3 is the actual goal?
ZM:
I am not certain what the “endgame” might be and perhaps NATO and Co. don’t know either. But, unfortunately, the world has already experienced two world wars and it makes me wonder if the event of a third world war would cause them a moment of pause. Probably not. Having already endured two previous world wars………………………………………… Germany should be particularly careful with what is says and does…. A third world war will be full on nuclear, without a doubt, plus anything else they have hidden away. I like my a– and have no desire to see it get nuked.
Keep in mind that the American myth of World War Two as “the good war” has only strengthened as the people who lived through and/or fought in it die off. It’s becoming all Audie Murphy at the combat end and all “sure, there was rationing and so forth, but we were in the middle of the Great Depression and that ended it” at the domestic end. We’re in Dr. Strangelove “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but …” territory.
Well said, well said….
WW2 was a continuation of WW1 which was a continuation of….
All wars are Russian Dolls.
The majority of the U.S. population has never experienced war of any kind let alone a Global Conflict. It’s easy to cheer on something happening a world away that doesn’t affect you. Much of the people here in the west are so dumbed down they sort look at the war in Ukraine like an NFL football game where they dress up like gladiators, and act as if they are out there on the playing field themselves. Let’s go team!
Remember this America has never been affected by a world war , they have made money from them just as they are making money from the proxy war with Russia .
“The concept of national sovereignty?”Bullseye! Global warming and climate change do not respect “national sovereignty”.
The endgame – Schwab and his buddies plan – kill 95% of humanity, turn the rest into RC human robots.
They are not hiding this stuff, and people still do not care – I don’t get it…
America has been preparing for a European war since they where BEATEN in Vietnam .
Because American oligarchy is working for Satan.
This is an insult to non-theistic Satanists. Violates the first tenet.
One can be a “non-theistic” Satanist?
Yes. In fact, most of them are. “Satanism” as practiced in (mostly) the United States is pretty much a theatric/comedic non-religion, a mockery of Christian hypocrisy.
There is a clown Satanism and the real Satanism which has as a goal the extermination of the humankind.
Sort of like the clown Christianity which has as a goal the justification of the goals of any regime invoking it, versus the real Christianity (also known as Judaism)?
Judaism is a diversion of Christianity. The history of J people is a fake, the same as their religion.
I doesn’t mean that Christian mythology is true. However, the main goal of Christian religion is to make people live together in peace and harmony and thus avoid the big wars which, as we know, can eventually terminate the human history.
I’m sorry if the way I phrased it was unclear as to my meaning.
The religion taught by Jesus (the “Christ”) was Judaism.
“Christianity” as we know it began as a pagan sect created by several Hellenized/Romanized Jewish heretics, in particular Saul of Tarsus.
You are repeating Scaligerian version of History which has no connection to the real historical events.
Apostolic Christianity was created by retired religious fanatics (djihadists) in the monasteries of Golden Horde in central Russia. It became a dominating religion after 1380.
After the defeat in the battle at Sandpiper Field, old regime Horde retreated to Central Asia. That was the first split of Christianity.
The second split, the split of Apostolic Christianity happened after religious crisis 1492. At the beginning of 16th century Apostolic Christianity was divided in several different religious: Orthodox, Catholic, Islam, Judaism. By the end of 16th century new mythologies were created.
I’m sorry if the way I phrased it was unclear as to my meaning.
The religion taught by Jesus (the “Christ”) was Judaism.
“Christianity” as we know it began as a pagan sect created by several Hellenized/Romanized Jewish heretics, in particular Saul of Tarsus.
I’m sorry if the way I phrased it was unclear as to my meaning.
The religion taught by Jesus (the “Christ”) was Judaism.
“Christianity” as we know it began as a pagan sect created by several Hellenized/Romanized Jewish heretics, in particular Saul of Tarsus.
Are you saying prosperity gospel Jesus *didn’t* bless my investment in for-profit prisons?
Boris Johnson told Zelensky NO PEACE TALKS WITH PUTIN , that was weeks ago just before or after Boris was kicked out of No 10
He did it twice, before and after.
Donna, that incompetent woman is just an uneducated, immature, ridiculous FM. No other previous administration ever was so incompetent, downright stupid and insane. There is a total government break down, the AfD is a right of center conservative party and the only party critical of the governing parties, but the party is being defamed by painting it extreme, which they are not.
Germany now has a controlled media, any critic on the insane politics could get you arrested and can cost you your job, much like here, we do not have a free media, the 1st amendment went into the trash bin. Without internet connection there is no information, but lots of propaganda.
Baerbock is a stupid, uneducated, and immature, an embarrassment for the nation, worse is Scholz, he could have said no, no way. He lacks character and backbone. The government, the governing parties are traitors of their country. They must be bought, insanity and stupidity alone can’t explain their actions, Biden, Blinken, Nuland, the Kagan clan and Sullivan are just as unbelievably incompetent and getting away with it.
Is insanity contagious?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/J2Lbmi6Xxo6t/
Not all German politicians are sold. This was from the Bundestag a couple days ago.
Indeed. So much for this being a war on authoritarians by democracies. Scholz didn’t go to parliament for a vote, he went to tell them what would happen.
The difference between this war and WW II – this time all The West ganged up against Russia. That is exactly what Churchill was trying to achieve in 1945.
The other difference is: this time Russia is capable to destroy them all. I think, years 2023 and 2024 are going to be very much interesting.
All the west ganged up against Russia from 1918-1925, too. Didn’t work out for them.
Not exactly. After the capitulation of Germany in 1918, France and UK helped Russian White army against Bolsheviks, but not enough. They were too busy with other problems, Turkey etc.
Germany and her allies were out of the war with Russia from March 1917.
“Germany and her allies were out of the war with Russia from March 1917.”
I assume you mean 1918 (Brest-Litovsk).
The US, France, and the UK were heavily involved in contesting Russian suppression of the counter-revolution, including multiple expeditionary forces.
Yes, 1918, of course.
You can’t call Russian Civil War 1817-1922 “suppression of the counter-revolution”. Bolshevik coup 1917 was considered by Russian Socialist Revolutionary party as counter-revolution. Actually, Russian revolution happened in February 1917. As result of this revolution, in the end 1017, Constitutional Assembly was elected. Bolshevik coup sabotaged the democratic process in Russia and triggered a civil war.
end 1917. Had too much of wine in the morning.
“Germany and her allies were out of the war with Russia from March 1917.”
I assume you mean 1918 (Brest-Litovsk).
The US, France, and the UK were heavily involved in contesting Russian suppression of the counter-revolution, including multiple expeditionary forces.
By the way, Bolsheviks saved Turkey from the defeat and partition.
UK save Poland from Bolsheviks.
US discouraged Japan from taking too much territory of former Russian Empire in the east.
It was a complicated story with many different interests.
UK didn`t save Poland , infact Churchill agreed with Roosevelt to hand Poland to Stalin , Japan was on the verge of surrendering because Russia was about to invaded Japan , to prevent Russia invading Japan the Americans committed a war crime by dropping 2 H Bombs on Japanese civilians .
I thought. THOSE first two BOMBS were A bombs. Are you sure they were NOT….???????
You are confusing WW I with WW II.
She is and always has been a demon. She doesn’t have a human soul. The fact that she’s in the “Green” political party just tells you how twisted, cynical, and demonic those neocons/neolibs have become. She says she doesn’t care what the German people need and they still vote for her. “Truth,” said Mark Twain, “is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to be possible and truth doesn’t.”
“We are fighting a war against Russia…”
It is a startling admission, but not surprising. What is more alarming is the assumption that the escalating conflict will not end in another world war.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
She told what everyone knew already. It is remarkable how German political elite is enthusiastic about this new Drang nach Osten. They are dreaming about defeating Russia (which is impossible) and forgetting about poles with their one trillion compensation demand for the WW II damage.
right then. making the world safe for U.S. natural gas exports
And the petrodollar!
Baerbock overstates the reality, if not her intention. 14 tanks are more a teaser than an act of war, and will promptly be deturreted if they ever actually make it to Ukraine. The problem is that her reality show is accelerating toward actual reality. Personally I think she needs to give a “total war” speech in a big stadium somewhere. Wearing a uniform. With an armband. And maybe with a whip. Baerbock Ja! Deutschland Ja! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
Whew. Just got going there.
Shocker!
NATO is now at war with Russia , the small detail of no NATO troops on the ground is just splitting hairs infact it is a given that NATO troops are in Ukraine ,NATO supply lines to Ukraine are now a legitimate target for Russian forces .
Surprisingly undiplomatic phrasing. Sure we have Wars on Drugs, and Wars on Poverty and Wars on gum under seats so the word gets thrown around a bit. Still we should be careful with language as things begin to resemble actual wars.
She is another Zelenski. A perfect imperial stooge. What an irony — Zelenski means Green.
Empire is good at generating political movements to capture the imagination of younger generation, climate is all the rage. Virtue signaling gone into overdrive.
But guess what — the clean environment people are suddenly for getting rid of clean pipeline gas, and substituting it with liquified gas trasported in oversized bottles accross oceans burning massive amount of oil powering those ships and polluting oceans. Way to go “greens”!
And war they are itching for is the most damaging activity for environment imaginable.
Can someone take that juvenile and put her back to college. She clearly ended up holding this job by mistake,
Don’t mistake party for ideology. Their only ideology is power. Their party is just a path.
I remember the Green movement from the early 1980s. It grew out of the peace movement that demonstrated against the SS-20 and Pershing 2.
At first I didn’t understand what had happened. But when looking into the issue I found that there has been a generational change and that many in the new generation of greens have been subverted by the Anglo-Americans who have dominated German media and politics since WWII.
In addition, they derive a sense of moral superiority from their believe in the absolute value of environmentalism. They are not Nazis, but they are just as ideological. Politics is the art of the compromise. There is no room for absolute values. Once you start talking about exporting your values, you are on autopilot for war.
The word is fanatics, they’re all the same and they’re all bad.
I hope the foreign minister has her lederhosen all packed up when the bombs fly. Because Russia will have none of that.
German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock seems to be clueless as about the disaster, which would follow if Germany is involved for the 3rd times in a world war, possibly a nuclear world war. Or, is it because Germany is following the US in its war against Russia because it wants a revenge for its defeat against Russia during WWII?
Germany is just a US vassal state. The US can destroy Germany’s economic life-line, the NordStream pipelines, and the Germans say thank you Uncle Sam, what else can we do for you?
How’d that work out for ya last time, Germany?
Yes you are fighting a war against Russia,
If insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results then you Germans are nuts.
Nice to hear the German Foreign Ministry being so transparent. All on board the bullet-train to hell. :-/
She said the quiet part out loud. So Germany takes on its Nazi past and goes to war against Russia. Disgusting.
Ukrainian men are being drafted by force. Men of all ages are being kidnapped from the streets of Ukrainian cities and villages.
The Nazi’s in Kiev are preparing for a massive offensive in spring 2023. It is for this operation that NATO countries are now sending main battle tanks and other military equipment. NATO is at war.
Ukrainian men are murdered if they run. And once on the frontline the NATO anti-retreat forces murder all those who refuse to fight.
I’m not going to watch the video clip. The mere sight of that women makes me sick.