President Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping on Monday held a long-awaited in-person meeting in Bali, Indonesia, amid simmering tensions between the US and China.
According to the Chinese Foreign Ministry’s readout of the meeting, Xi’s message to Biden was that the current state of US-China relations is in nobody’s interest.
“President Xi pointed out the current state of China-US relations is not in the fundamental interests of the two countries and peoples and is not what the international community expects,” the ministry said.
The readout said that Xi stressed the two powers should work together to put relations back on track and that China does not seek to supplant the US as the world’s leading power.
“The two sides should respect each other, coexist in peace, pursue win-win cooperation, and work together to ensure that China-US relations move forward on the right course without losing direction or speed, still less having a collision,” the readout said.
According to the White House, President Biden told Xi that the US will “continue to compete vigorously” with China, signaling the US doesn’t plan to change course. US officials said before the meeting that the talks will be more about managing tensions rather than resolving issues.
Biden said that the competition should not “veer into conflict and underscored that the United States and China must manage the competition responsibly and maintain open lines of communication.”
Discussing Taiwan, Xi warned Biden that the issue was a red line for Beijing. The Chinese leader “stressed that the Taiwan question is at the very core of China’s core interests, the bedrock of the political foundation of China-US relations, and the first red line that must not be crossed.”
In recent years, the US has worked to increase ties with Taiwan and the Biden-Xi meeting comes as Congress is working on legislation that would give the island unprecedented support in the form of billions in military aid. Biden has also said that he would intervene militarily in the event of a Chinese attack on Taiwan, seemingly breaking from the decades-long policy of strategic ambiguity on the issue.
Despite these steps, Biden claimed to Xi that the US was still committed to the one-China policy. The White House said that Biden “laid out in detail that our one China policy has not changed, the United States opposes any unilateral changes to the status quo by either side.”
The White House said that Biden raised objections to China’s “coercive and increasingly aggressive actions toward Taiwan.” Beijing recently launched its largest-ever military drills around Taiwan, which included firing missiles over the island. But they came in response to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) visiting Taiwan. China made clear ahead of her trip that they would view it as a major provocation and respond, but she still went ahead with the visit.
While tensions between the US and China show no sign of waning in the near future, both sides agreed to maintain high-level communications. After the meeting, the White House said that Secretary of State Antony Blinken will soon make his first trip to China.
The two leaders discussed other global issues, including the war in Ukraine and the tensions on the Korean peninsula. Xi told Biden that China supports the idea of peace talks between Russia and Ukraine and hopes that the US and its Western allies will also conduct a dialogue with Moscow.
More Neocon doublespeak. There is no point in talking with neocons/nazis, words are amorphous, have no fixity, for them.
Xi may as well have talked to a block wall. Biden & Co. are not listening, or rather, they are listening but not hearing.
So you support an armed takeover of Taiwan by China?
vlp1730’s comment did not even remotely suggest that he supports an armed takeover of Taiwan by China.
No one supports an unprovoked armed takeover of Taiwan. No one supported an unprovoked military operation in Ukraine. You see what i did there? China will start a SMO in Taiwan if provoked as Russia started a SMO after 9 years of provocation.
You need to put the blame where it belongs. Ukraine is not sovereign and neither is Taiwan.
The bricks are in the process of de-dollarising trade. This will not happen over night. More and more countries are joining the bricks organisation and kissing the dollar goodbye.
Russia needs to stand firm militarily against NATO in time the Western economies will collapse. Time is on Russia side.
Provocation is such a slippery concept I am sorry but “they looked at me funny” isn’t enough.
When for 8 years you supply weapons and train hundreds of thousands of troops on a countries border, its a provocation.
When you run bioweapons labs and threaten nuclear destruction its a provocation. When you place literal Nazi’s in power and free them to be as violent and brutal against you as they can, its a provocation.
When you build massive military fortifications on a countries border and attempt to ethnically cleanse an entire region of people, its a provocation. When you indiscriminately shell the civilian populations in these regions its a provocation.
When you illegally sanction them to destroy their economy its a provocation. When you blow up their pipelines its a provocation.
When you bring your ISIS proxies from ME to kill them its a provocation.
I can go on and on, just what do you consider is a provocation?
So not too much of that is true, I suppose if it was true I might agree with you but it isn’t’ so I don’t
What isnt true? “they looked at me funny” what planet are you on?
Or are you one of these people that think for no reason what so ever Putin woke up one morning and thought, ill invade Ukraine for giggles.
Are you one of these people that think for no reason what so ever Xi will wake up one morning and think, ill invade Taiwan for giggles.
Oh not for giggles, but to shore up domestic political support or to follow his dream of putting the old country back together.
Putin had already declined the Wests offer to take the Donbass. Here is why……in the Donbass they hold the balance of power in Ukraine. The Donbass region is why a pro Russian government was in power.
This is why the Nazi’s in the West attempted to ethnically cleanse the Donbass. While the Donbass stayed ethnically Russian then the government would be pro Russian. Genocide of ethnic Russians was the solution.
You are so miss informed, bigoted and racist its just stupid talking to you. There is no frame of reference for any discussion. What you believe is a fairy tale.
“they looked at me funny” you really are this ignorant?
Putin had already declined the Wests offer to take the Donbass. Here is why……in the Donbass they hold the balance of power in Ukraine. The Donbass region is why a pro Russian government was in power.
The reality is that you have no idea why Putin started the SMO. Apart from some abstract bigoted thinking.
Putin promoted the Minsk accords as a means of keeping the Donbass part of Ukraine. But hey you believe your fairy tale, facts dont matter right? What do you think the Minsk accords were?
This is why the Nazi’s in the West for over 8 years attempted to ethnically cleanse the Donbass. While the Donbass stayed in Ukraine and ethnically Russian then the government would be pro Russian. Genocide of ethnic Russians was the solution and Nazi’s were the muscle to achieve it. The US Rand corporation documented the process prior to the events, complete with concentration and re-education camps. Genocide and ethnic cleansing were being used as a means to control the ballet box.
Putin has 80% support in Russia. You are so miss informed, bigoted and racist its just stupid talking to you. There is no frame of reference for any discussion. What you believe is a fairy tale.
Donbass falls within the borders Russia agreed to in 1999. Russia isn’t being very neighborly supporting an insurgency with heavy weaponry. Once you start slinging terms like Nazi you lose a ton of credibility.
I am referring to Stepan Bandera, OUN Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists and Nazism. There is a reason they call them banderites.
John is immune from logic, as in “immune from prosecution”.
Well, in that case, if you live in the US or Europe, take a look in the mirror.
Sure we have done lots of bad stuff, Iraq Afghanistan, Libya Syria Yemen … and many many more we are contributing to human suffering and misery and I wish we would stop. It has cost us 6 trillion dollars ( or more) the opportunity cost is staggering what could we have had instead of a bunch of dead brown people half a world away?
So, you saying Russia had real security issues went away when you fell on your head?
You think Russia had security issues last year at this time? Now they have an enlarged NATO and an ensmalled military. Things are much much worse for them.
And violently replace a lawfully elected president with a “Yatz is our guy”-puppet.
Spot on! Someone talking sense!
You are right.
Ukraine is a fully owned subsidiary of the United States now.
Economic agony will likely produce a desperate response from nato and associated vermin.
And we will ALL live happily ever after. No doubt.
Afghanistan was a money laundering operation, washing Western taxpayer money into the hands of transnational elites.
Ukraine is a money laundering operation, washing Western taxpayer money into the hands of transnational elites.
Taiwan will be a money laundering operation, washing Western taxpayer money into the hands of transnational elites.
For example FTX sent 70 million to the DNC (10% for the big guy?). FTX got its money from Ukraine. Ukraine got its money from the Western taxpayers. Rinse and repeat.
The Western elites want war, win or loose it doesn’t matter. Its all about constant war and the looting of Western taxpayers. There will never be peace.
… washed in blood. Smedley Butler would agree,
Absolutely.
Long live Columbia!
I would hope everybody could agree that we shouldn’t use military might to alter the current situation wrt Taiwan.
If by “we” you mean the US regime, yes.
The US regime should butt out of other people’s conflicts. Entirely.
That does not mean the US regime should pretend that Taiwan is “part of” the People’s Republic of China just because the Beijing regime throws a tantrum any time other regimes don’t pretend with them.
I don’t understand what gives U.S. any standing to dictate any- thing regarding China interstate issues or actions. Perhaps you could cite some internationally recognizes agreement or UN stipulation that grants the U.S. such standing??? Otherwise the U.S. has no more standing than China has in Interstate Commce Commission of the U.S.
Yes, perhaps he considers the fact that the Kuomintang invaded in ’49 running from the Revolution, and the Generalissimo being funded and equipped by the US, makes it another US colony? … rather like French Indo-China.
Feel free to point out where you’ve ever found any evidence that I believe the US has any standing to dictate anything.
Pro tip: You can’t point it out because it’s not there.
That lack of standing doesn’t mean the US regime has any obligation to pretend that Taiwan is part of China just because the PRC whines any time it doesn’t.
US official policy is that Taiwan is part of China. What tantrum are you referring too?
Yes, the US regime’s policy is to pretend that Taiwan is part of China — because the PRC stomps around and screeches about its “meddling in its internal affairs” any time any other regime doesn’t pretend that Taiwan is part of China. Ditto any time representatives of occupied Tibet’s government visit another country.
If we’re going to get to stomping and screeching, we should probably agree that we will not discuss the actions of the Hegemon over the last 60+ years. Ok?
Au contraire.
The US empire (which constantly fantasizes about being a Hegemon) constantly stomps and screeches.
And its stomping and screeching should be ignored and/or mocked too.
I know you are talking sense, sir. Just pulling on your chain in the spirit of a friendly jest 😉
How is defining US policy pretend? I would of thought policy locks in the position for real. The UN of course is the international organisation that defines and controls these things.
What about the agreement, after decades of allowing the “Republic of China” to represent all of China, to accept that the “People’s Republic” really did deserve that right, which was accepted by nearly all the nations including the USA. There are even some people still alive who remember POTUS Nixon’ visit to China and the result. “Tantrum”???
Q: How many legs does a dog have if everyone agrees to call its tail a leg?
A: Four. Agreeing to call a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg.
Post Modernist nonsense is everywhere, btw your argument goes both ways……..Calling Taiwan sovereign like the tail does not make it sovereign.
I never called Taiwan “sovereign,” because I agree with Manuel O’Kelly that “sovereign” is just a word in the dictionary located between “sober” and “sozzled.”
What I pointed out is that Taiwan has neither been ruled by Beijing since 1895, nor has the Kuomingang controlled any territory in China since 1949. It isn’t part of China, and it’s independent of China.
Those two facts are facts.
They were facts when the US was pretending that Taiwan was part of China and that its regime was the “rightful” ruler of China.
And they’re facts now that the PRC is pretending that Taiwan is part of China and that the Beijing regime is the “rightful” ruler of Taiwan.
I look at it the way we looked at Central and South America as our back yard, with the same kinds of policy statements and warnings to outsiders prevailing.
My take on China:
First of all, the US has agreed that India can buy as much oil from Russia as it wants, as long as none of the intermediate transportation resources have anything to do with the US or US interests. This is meant to slow down Russian exports to India at least in the short term. In the long term it likely means that India will get closer and closer to Russia and China as they build up all-Russian / China / Indian supply chains to get Russian (and Indian and Chinese) exports around South East Asia.
Although Ukraine and Taiwan are major flash points, the kinetic war seems to be taking a back set to economic battles. Any actual major fighting in Taiwan by the US could very well not be front page news due to a complete and total instant decoupling of our two economies. I don’t think that the US is ready for this at this time.
Maybe we could have some sort of SMO – we keep trading with them while we have our fight over Taiwan. It has prevented the US and Russia from obliterating each other’s economies so far in Ukraine. I think that there will be further escalations over Taiwan, but hopefully both sides will move somewhat cautiously due to the ramifications of instant economic decoupling. In 3 years? Yeah we will be able to completely decouple by then I would think. I am hoping that the decoupling goes reasonably peacefully.
“Xi Tells Biden Current State of US-China Relations Not in Anyone’s Interest The Chinese leader warned Taiwan is a ‘red line’ that must not be crossed”
Xi was talking and Joey Biden the fool was watching him like a dog watching TV.
The Russian MOD is disarming NATO, tank by tank, artillery by artillery, air defense by air defense. What they loose in the Ukraine, they loose for the final global war.
Russia is inflicting a 10:1 kill ratio. And NATO overall has the following equipment losses;
333 Aircraft, 176 helicopters, 2504 UAV’s, 388 Anti Aircraft systems, 6593 tanks inc. APC’s, 891 multiple rocket launchers, 3577 rocket launchers and 7216 military automotive equipment.
Yes, NATO may be losing a lot of weapons in Ukraine, but NATO has a massive industrial capacity to replace them. A capacity much greater than Russia has. So it’s just a fantasy that Russia is degrading NATO. If anything it’s the other way around.
On the positive side, Putin’s oligarchs have some of the best megayachts in the world. Unfortunately most of them have been confiscated. Idiots.
I’m just sure that with some effort the US and China will be able to resolve their differences re Columbia.
President Xi knows that Biden is lying- it is impossible to have Taiwan part of China (ie the legal position) yet pledge to keep it separate from China. What is the point? To pretend that the USA cares about democracy is laughable, and anyway the people of Taiwan are not trying to have a war, only political figures plus the USA.
“US officials said before the meeting that the talks will be more about managing tensions rather than resolving issues.”
Yes, now why would anyone want to solve issues? Issue solved = no money for MIC.