Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, angered Ukrainian officials on Monday when he tweeted an idea for a potential peace deal in Ukraine along with a poll to gain public support.
Musk wrote on Twitter that a peace plan could consist of three planks:
- Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people
- – Crimea formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783 (until Khrushchev’s mistake)
- Water supply to Crimea assured
- Ukraine remains neutral
Musk said that he believes that it’s “highly likely” the above proposal will eventually happen and that it’s just a “question of how many die before then.” He also noted that a possible outcome of the conflict is nuclear war.
Musk’s tweet drew angry responses from Ukrainian officials even though he has supported Ukraine in its war against Russia by supplying Kyiv with Starlink terminals, enabling Ukrainian forces to access the internet from virtually any location.
One notable reply came from Andrij Melnyk, Ukraine’s outgoing ambassador to Germany, who told Musk to “f— off.”
“F— off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” Melnyk wrote. “The only outcome ist that now no Ukrainian will EVER buy your f—ing tesla crap. So good luck to you,” he added in another tweet.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky also took a shot at Musk by tweeting a poll of his own. He asked which Elon Musk people like more, one that “supports Ukraine” or “supports Russia.”
How about I support an Elon Musk supporting negotiations?
A noble idea but first things first… You’ll need to get a bulldozer to get his balls out of the way…
Not another dollar to the Ukrainian Nazis.
What about the Russian ones?
We aren’t supplying them.
I suspect we would be if a lot of commenters here had their way
You have your opinion, but I doubt that very much.
We are not arming Russia.
Musk has broken rank. Will Silicon Valley follow? … This will cause some heartburn in the corridors of power. They’ll have to mobilize to shout him down and keep it from spreading.
“F–k Off” is in the Ukrainian Diplomatic playbook, in a special section on how to deal with millionaires and billionaires proposing peace plans… So, I guess you can call this the status quo.
What about Mme. Nuland?
What about her?…
I think Robert is referring to Nuland’s famous “F the EU” line back in 2014.
Yes, apparently it’s in the Ukro diplomatic lexicon.
How dare Musk think for himself and dare consider a path to peace. Thats not the official line. He needs to stick to the MSM script…
This article conveniently fails to omit that Melnyk was recalled at the end of September by Zelenskyy for his controversial remarks regarding Germany..
So what? This article isn’t about his controversial comments regarding Germany. Not really relevant. What is relevant is whether Zelensky disavowed his latest statements.
The point is, he isn’t even a diplomat anymore. That seems highly relevant.
Yep, he is a private citizen now.
“One notable reply came from Andrij Melnyk, Ukraine’s outgoing ambassador to Germany”
That implies he’s still a diplomat.
It does, which is incorrect. Zelenskyy said months ago that Melnyk’s appointment as ambassador would end in September. https://thehill.com/homenews/3672143-ukrainian-diplomat-responds-to-musks-peace-proposal-f-off/
So, 5 days ago? Gad, when Kissinger said Ukraine should give up territory, people who want Ukraine to continue to be the West’s sacrificial lamb went ballistic.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky also took a shot at Musk by tweeting a poll of his own. He asked which Elon Musk people like more, one that “supports Ukraine” or “supports Russia.”
Sounded like he was proposing peace. But Volod and his trophy wife are safe. Maybe that question should be put to him since he seems to be willing to continue to let his countrymen die.
Reasonable and pretty much what Kissinger said months ago.
Gee, I wonder what is Melnik’s Non-Diplomatic reply…?!!!
Musk is an idiot. Russia will not limit itself to such a “peace plan.” Those who think the deal that was on the brink of being reached in March would satisfy Russia security concerns are also wrong. This apparently includes Alexander Mercouris based on videos he did yesterday.
The March deal was first of all lambasted by a lot of Russian commentators and as I recall, the Russian negotiator was derided as incompetent.
Second, the March deal would have done nothing to insure Russia’s security going forward. Russia would likely have required new demands to be satisfied beyond that deal. Russia might have accepted it if the deal included a Ukrainian surrender, but undoubtedly Russia knew that wasn’t in the card. And then the West proved it.
I will reiterate once again for the retarded: This war in Ukraine is “step one” of Russia’s intention to remove NATO as a threat to Russia pursuant to the treaty proposals Russia introduced in December, 2021. That requires the elimination of the Kiev regime, the complete control of all Ukrainian territory under a Russian-compliant government and the placement of Russian strategic weapons opposite the Aegis Ashore installations in Poland and Romania along with equivalent emplacements in Belarus.
The path to peace in December last year did not include a vote in those four zones for independence nor to join Russia. It was Minsk Agreement protections for ethnic minorities and neutrality for Ukraine.
The path to peace in 2014 had left Crimea inside Ukraine, with a long term lease for Russia’s bases.
It keeps getting worse for the West. That is called, “losing the war.”
Honest appraisal is that the US embarked on a losing venture, hubris and arrogance blinding it to natural limits of power.
Now the US power brokers just won’t hear it said. But it is still true. Truth will out.
This is going to cost the power brokers. Biden, Blinken, and their likes have finally started a war they cannot lose by “decent interval” and just go on as if nothing has happened.