The Israeli news website Zman Yisrael said it has “learned” that a new nuclear deal between the US and Iran is off the table and will not be signed in the “foreseeable future.”
Zman Yisrael didn’t cite any sources but said that this message had been conveyed to Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid in recent conversations with President Biden and other US officials.
Prospects for a revival of the nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA, seemed unlikely after the US slammed Iran’s latest response in the ongoing negotiations as “not encouraging” and “moving backwards.”
The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrel, has been brokering the negotiations, but said on Monday that he thinks the deal is “in danger.” The comments marked Borrel’s most pessimistic remarks about the talks they were recently restarted by the EU.
Israel is strongly opposed to the deal and has been pressuring the US to scrap negotiations. Lapid said on Tuesday that it was still “too early” to know if the pressure has worked and issued a fresh threat against Iran.
Lapid said Israel must do what it takes to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran. But if that were his concern, he should favor a revival of the JCPOA as it puts Iran’s civilian nuclear program under strict limits and makes it subject to the most intrusive inspections in the world.
Lapid is expected to play up the fact that he averted a new Iran deal by pressuring the US as part of his election campaign. Israel’s election will be held on November 1, and former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a contender. Lapid criticized Netanyahu’s confrontational approach to the Obama administration when the JCPOA was first negotiated in 2015.
This entire spectacle is amazing to me. In the first place they didn’t need a nuclear agreement because Iran didn’t have a nuclear program. Obama put sanctions on Iran to make them agree to inspections that were never needed. Now because of years of sanctions and game playing Iran might actually reconstitute the program that was shuttered decades ago according to Israeli’s own intelligence agencies. We pushed them to the point where their only hope of sanction relief is to continue to reduce their nuclear breakout time and try to negotiate again but Israel could get the green light to hit them if they do that much enrichment. Having refueling capabilities could allow that to happen.
Between this mess and the Russian sanctions that are backfiring, what more proof do they need that sanctions don’t work?
At this point it’s impossible for Washington to say “Sorry”, I make a mistake”, and reverse course, …. been way too much blood for that, plus the truth re 9/11, CoVid-19, Jeffrey Epstein, …. just have to keep adding another “ingenius” ram-shackle (cf. Yellen’s energy “caps”) bit to their Rube Goldberg grotesquerie.
The Zionists and the Capitalist war.mongers are in it together.up to their chinny chin chins.
Hitler had their support too.
Iran has had a nuclear program for a long time now. long before Obama was POTUS.
https://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/timeline-irans-nuclear-activities
Under the NPT, Iran can have a “nuclear program” for peaceful purposes. Israel also has a nuclear program, with nuclear weapons.
There is a difference between a nuclear power program and a nuclear weapons program. They shuttered their nuclear weapons programs Before Obama was in office, their peaceful nuclear power program was entirely legal under every agreement they signed.
Yes, 2003 according to our spooks. but we’ve been sanctioning them since 1979. Obama just piled on.
They should have They should develop one .Its no one ‘s business to tell Iran cant have one.The discussion has to change. Its none of the buisness of US or lap cat UK or master Israel .
And, Iran is a signatory to the NPT (Israel isn’t), which allows Iran to enrich for peaceful purposes, and, allows the IAEA to inspect.
Solid point.
Is the IAEA still credible? It appears that all international organizations are CIA contaminated, the UN and NGOs included.
Nope, not a whit. The IAEA is thoroughly politicized.
NATO developed in a similar fashion, when it was started Russia was totally destroyed and no threat to anyone. But the capitalists always knew they had to be ready to kill communism and control Germany.
They can’t kill ideas, but they can wipe out Russia so they think.
The nuclear agreement was a political move to let Obama out of a hot spot. If you remember he had declared the use of chemical weapons a “red line.” The there was the false flag chemical attack. Putin arranged this agreement to allow Obama to back down.
https://www.france24.com/en/20180414-syria-chemical-weapons-red-line-obama-macron-assad-russia-usa-france-idlib
That was Syria, but point taken.
The new deal would have allowed and facilitated the resources Iran requires to build their nuclear armaments. This is the same Iran who said “we don’t want nukes”, yet still breached the original deal by secretly or stopping the Europeans inspectors of inspecting.
Leaving the deal and not going back to a new *updated* by Biden deal is preferable.
There is no evidence Iran is building a nuke, Israel has been fear mongering this for last 20 years.
I dislike nukes tremendously but it is a nuclear world… In a nuclear world, the only way to save a country’s bacon is to have some nukes…
A country HAS used nukes to attack another country. Gee, which one was it?
VLP, I’m surprised that Japan hasn’t kicked up more dust about the effects of nuclear warfare, citing themselves as example.
All of Israel mumbo jumbo will die down if Russia, China or both declare to use nuclear weapons against any country attacking Iran with nuclear weapons…!
Donna, I believe nuclear war is inevitable. The best we can hope for is to be immediately vaporized rather than slowly dying of radiation poisoning.
Live it up while you still can; I’m gonna max out my credit card.
If you really believe that, robbing banks is another option…! 🙂
Hey, Net, thanks for the suggestion! 😉
Those Zionists are.actually.nuts enough.to use Nukes against an Islamic Nation.This will not end well for Israel no matter.how many arms and.how much money.the US sends Israel.
Well said Wendell!
You make a valid point; it is an open question as to how insane these rabid zionist nut cases are! Watching these clowns in charge in white house and state dept does not give one any sense of confidence.
*30 years*
Then we don’t need that deal at all no?
“This is the same Iran who said “we don’t want nukes”, yet still breached the original deal by secretly or stopping the Europeans inspectors of inspecting.”
What “European inspectors” are you referring to? Iran breached the deal because the other parties refused to comply with the deal.
Iran is still under the purvey of the NPT. Thank goodness Iran has not said “screw it” and left the NPT.
Perhaps they should deviate from NPT just to wake up some sleepy hollows…!
Oh for h*ll’s sake. By the way, “Europeans” cannot waltz into their facilities and “inspect”. That is the purvey of the IAEA, which has inspected for many years (since Iran became a signatory of the NPT in 1968 (ratified in 1970).
I called them European inspectors, as I do not know the proper terminology to call them. Nice semantics
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect, completely unencumbered by facts, as pointed out below. But all that happens in this case is if Europe and the US no longer recognize the JCPOA, Iran is free, under the terms of the NPT, to pursue non-weapons-related nuclear technology, such as nuclear power and medical technologies, and they will have powerful allies in Russia and China to help them. They can enrich as much as they like as long as they don’t put it in a bomb. Iran, as a nation, has not abrogated the terms of the NPT, ever. If you have evidence to the contrary, by all means, apply for a job with the IAEA. I hear they’re looking for fabulists.
So you agree, the deal is unnecessary since they can acquire and do all they need to without it. Good to hear.
Iran has many times threatened to use nuclear weapons should it achieve it yet, pretend no we actually don’t want it. I think the fears are valid. You may not think so.
Good for you
The deal is preferred, if only because it keeps the Israelis and Americans at bay. But if it’s not going to happen the NPT holds sway. Don’t put words in my mouth again, sir.
By now Iran is self sufficient and Does Not need any resources from outside to build nuclear weapons…!
That may be true, but it is irrelevant. They have not chosen to do so, nor is there any evidence that they are planning to do so.
Didn’t say they started building one…! Just responding to the Emperor of the Sun…!
Fair enough.
Cool, so we don’t need the deal then. Great to hear!
Your ignorance is truly astonishing. Are you the Emperor of Misinformation?
what a petty retort.
well done Iran. I hope you are correct .
“Lapid criticized Netanyahu’s confrontational approach to the Obama administration when the JCPOA was first negotiated in 2015.”
Yes, Netanyahu said the Iranians were terrorists and begged (demanded) the US not to do the deal. Lapid says the Iranians are terrorists and is begging (demanding) the Us not rejoin the deal that Netanyahu begged (demanded) not to do. Big difference.
This should have been obvious from the beginning. Why Iran bothered to negotiate I will never know. You don’t renegotiate with someone who reneged on an agreement and expect, somehow, another agreement that will have any value..
Iran benefits by negotiating.
For one thing, by acting in good faith and letting the US be the intransigent party that won’t take “yes” for an answer, they give other countries good public justifications for ignoring US sanctions.
Yes, but this is the “negotiation” of making the other guy fire the first shot, after you have decided it will come to shooting.
“After the murder of Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, on Tuesday the State Department asked Tel Aviv to review its rules of engagement in the occupied West Bank. On Wednesday, Lapid fired back saying, ‘no one will dictate our rules of engagement to us.’”
https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/israel-firmly-rebukes-white-houses-request-to-review-policies-after-death-of-american-journalist/
Meanwhile, in other news…
“The Israeli news website Zman Yisrael said it has ‘learned’ that a new nuclear deal between the US and Iran is off the table and will not be signed in the ‘foreseeable future.’”
I believe this claim will turn out to be correct. After all, the US exists solely to support “our strategic partner” and the “only democracy in the Middle East” in all its endeavors, no matter how dangerous to America as far as the Zionists are concern. When Israel says “jump”, the US asked “how high?”
My disgust with the post-modern US is complete.
The US is bigger than that; and distinctions are critical. Pomo-America is only the billionaire determined metro-coastal culture and its satellite suburban-libs. And, (2) the maniacal pursuit of the 4th Reich is limited to the Neocon-Zionist Deep State, centered in metro-coastal Washington and Tel Aviv. Demonstrably, the vast majority of the country voted for Trump and Sanders, and the Deep State had to resort to multiple byzantine shell-games to keep control of the POTUS.
I suspect in some sort of deal with.the US Israel.has already has made plans to.attack Iran in search regime.change.
I am inclined to agree Wendell…
Biden needs more war, if not now then after the election.
He is beholden to the MIC and Israel.
I think you have touched on some interesting points Robert…
One could believe that the MIC and AIPAC are a big united part of the Deep State. To lift a senile war hawk and servant of Israel into the WH made sense. Trump is too unpredictable.
Yes, and it’s also critical that Biden knows all the secrets, participated in all the criminality over the past 40 yrs, and therefore blood’d into the brotherhood, the deep Skull & Bones. Trump is an outsider, and could innocently go(like releasing the JFK file) which where angels (Obama tried then backed off) fear to tread.
Yes, as I said before it’s all about the Election and Re-election which is a lot more important than the stupid Deal…!
Ut is not the nuclear Iran Israel fears. Israel wants a continuatiin of Iran’s economuc isolation from the West. Or perhaps better put, Israel and a prettyvpowerful interests in US want EUROPE to be usolated from Iran, Russia and China. Iran being energy rich, just like Russia — must be off limits to Europe, especially industrialized Germany. German abundant access to cheap Rusdian energy and its industry, made trade links to China a natural fit. Iran’s geographical location is key to continental links to Midfle East, Gulf and Southeast Asia. Russia, Iran, China were the key to rusing German power, independent frim US. And that will NOT do.
Israel is in charge. Is anyone surprised? I am not.
No surprises there.
Iran has been living with sanctions for years.
Even if the deal went through many countries and companies would still be gun shy about dealing with Iran unsure of US retribution.
Investment money would still be leary.
Iran, Russia and like minded countries will continue to forge economic alliances.
The US, Europe and client states like Canada will continue to lose relevance
in the global economy.
Israel’s hubris will inevitably be the engine of its downfall.
It’s an interesting dynamic- strength comes from commerce, and commerce comes from open borders and good relations. What a great coincidence.
And the US is closing down its open borders and good relations with vast swaths of the world. The US has sanctioned near as much of the world as not.
The fear of FDR before the US entered WW2 was of a world closed to the US economy and aligned against the US by the defeat of its friends at the hands of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and the Japanese. It did look that was in 1940 and early ’41. The US was making efforts to protect itself in the Caribbean from the “Atlantic Narrows” between the French colonies controlled by Germany and Brazil (somewhat aligned then with Germany and its many German colonists). So now Biden has recreated that problem, and done it to us himself.
Biden is just one of the crowd.
Knew that a year and a half ago.
Biden put peace with Russia “off the table,” so why not do the same using the same words with his promises to voters to rejoin the Iran Deal?
He’s a liar and a warmonger. Of course he does it again.
This fool Blinken will keep doing this until he gets somebody nuked.
Worse, they have driven Russia to support North Korea’s nuke program. Maybe now Iran’s too. Fools.
America is Israel’s bitch.
Jeez, I’m shocked!
The United States of Israel took it off the table.
Anyone who thought a deal was at all possible in the face of Israel’s aggressive veto power simply was not paying attention.
An Amerikkkan president bitch-slapped by Israhell once again. What the f*ck’s new?
This time bended over and lubricated…!
How will we cross the nuclear barrier? Will it be Israel striking Iran, or Russia striking Ukraine? Blinken is working hard to make sure someone does it.
All that is missing is military moves to provoke North Korea.
“All that is missing is military moves to provoke North Korea.”
Where does one find the time? Don’t remind them.
I’ve said for some time the neocons are trying to get nukes used by somebody to free up Israel to nuke Iran. Israel isn’t going to tolerate Iran having even a civilian nuclear program and it doesn’t have the conventional firepower to stop it. Maybe it can get its sidekick to try conventional bombing, but one way or the other the plan is to hit Iran, and if Israel does it it will probably require nukes.
The last thing the neocons want is for Israel to nuke Iran. Keeping that conflict at an eternal simmer keeps the US welfare checks flowing to Israel.
The welfare checks to Israel will stop when congress grows a spine, the budget is balanced, or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.
Russia and China would not allow that…! Besides, Israel would lose its ME nuclear supremacy if it attacks Iran with nukes…!
Russia and China won’t be asked, Israel will lose some warheads, and Iran will lose it’s nuclear program and a lot of people. I expect things would go downhill from there.
No worries,Mark, that’ll happen too.
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/biden-and-allies-continue-to-put-iran-in-the-crosshairs/
– tells us ”
Americans aware of Israel’s arsenal, which includes 200 or more nuclear weapons and makes U.S. aid illegal, are considerably outnumbered statistically by those who falsely believe Iran has the bomb.
Netanyahu’s immediate predecessor, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the New York Times that, “Just as Pakistan had the bomb and nothing happened, Israel could also accept and survive Iran having the bomb.” Former Clinton administration State Department official Jamie Rubin also explained in Foreign Policy that the problem was never an Israeli fear of a first strike by Iran, but “Israel’s real fear – losing its nuclear monopoly and therefore the ability to use its conventional forces at will throughout the Middle East – is the unacknowledged factor driving its decision-making toward the Islamic Republic.”
Netanyahu’s immediate predecessor, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the New York Times that, “Just as Pakistan had the bomb and nothing happened, Israel could also accept and survive Iran having the bomb.” Former Clinton administration State Department official Jamie Rubin also explained in Foreign Policy that the problem was never an Israeli fear of a first strike by Iran, but “Israel’s real fear – losing its nuclear monopoly and therefore the ability to use its conventional forces at will throughout the Middle East – is the unacknowledged factor driving its decision-making toward the Islamic Republic.”
Horton continues quoting Rubin,
[F]or Israeli leaders, the real threat from a nuclear-armed Iran is not the prospect of an insane Iranian leader launching an unprovoked nuclear attack on Israel that would lead to the annihilation of both countries. It’s the fact that Iran doesn’t even need to test a nuclear weapon to undermine Israeli military leverage in Lebanon and Syria.”