A US official told The New York Times on Friday that the Biden administration will work with allies in Europe to send Soviet-made tanks to Ukraine as the Western push to pour weapons into the country continues.
The move marks an escalation in Western military aid to Ukraine. Until now, the US and its NATO allies have provided Ukraine with thousands of shoulder-fired anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles but have held off on sending more advanced weapons over concerns of provoking Russia.
The US official wouldn’t specify how many tanks will be sent or what countries they will come from. Ukraine needs Soviet-made weapons since its armed forces are trained to use them, and only the NATO members that are former Soviet states can provide them.
The decision came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky pleaded with NATO to send tanks and warplanes. The US had previously backed off from a plan to transfer Soviet-designed MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine.
Separately on Friday, the Pentagon announced a new $300 million military aid package for Ukraine. Since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, the Biden administration has pledged $1.6 billion in military equipment for the Ukrainians.
According to the Pentagon, the new military aid package includes:
- Laser-guided rocket systems;
- Switchblade Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
- Puma Unmanned Aerial Systems;
- Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems;
- Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles;
- Small-to-large caliber non-standard ammunition;
- Night vision devices, thermal imagery systems, and optics;
- Tactical secure communications systems;
- Non-standard machine guns;
- Commercial satellite imagery services;
- Medical supplies, field equipment, and spare parts.
Poland has turned into a hub for NATO weapons that are being sent to Ukraine, and President Biden recently said that US soldiers in the country are training Ukrainian troops. The Pentagon downplayed Biden’s comments and said the US troops are only “liaising” with Ukrainian forces as they give them weapons.
I wonder who would be nuts enough to drive those things into Ukraine.
Someone like the helicopter pilots who were nuts enough to fly into Russia to attack the oil depot at Belograd.
How did that change anything? Also the desperate helicopter pilots rescuing “important people” from Mariupol?
The short answer is the purpose of the Ukrainian attacks is to demonstrate resistance, not to defeat the superior Russian army.
To survive the Ukrainian military must go to ground to use guerrilla tactics against a conventional army with overwhelming tactical superiority. The prime purpose of guerrillas in the first stage of asymmetric warfare is to survive – to avoid engagements that can lead to decisive defeats by superior forces. C&C needs to be decentralized.
In the early stages the guerrillas engage in small scale hit and run attacks that gain little militarily, but which demonstrate that the invaders can’t control the entire area of occupation.
The key to victory is which side will win the hearts and minds of the common people.
The indigenous forces usually have an advantage over the foreign invaders and this advantage traps the invaders in a negative feedback loop. The more the invaders take reprisals against the resistance, the more resentment the people have for the invaders. This is especially true when the invaders have a history of oppressing the indigenous population, as the Russians do in Ukraine. The reprisals strengthen the resistance until eventually the invaders lose the will to fight and leave.
In this case there is NO chance the “brave ukies” including the Azov darlings, will win. Surrender!!
dude, you want boots on the ground going guerrilla door to door.
That Rambo style to bust the doors down like in Iraq is the long protracted war that Russia is not engaged in. Neither is it all a “Blitz” war as our expert BS heads project.
RUSSIA has ruined infrastructures that support an occupancy. If cowboy mercs go in there, Who will be there left to fight with? A: nobody.
Keeping the region uninhabitable for NAZISM is what is going on. The Dunbas can be a buffer zone for Russian missile defences and your ground war.
Good luck advancing NATO sponsored terrorism in Ukraine.
If Mariopol is an example of De-Nazification, then the Russians are only building resentment that will make the Nazis stronger.
Putin’s demands were justified. But going tpo war was unjustified.
War and genocide are the worst things human beings do.
“A just war is just a war.”
Mariopol was only “Decimated” according to embedded reporters. I saw and heard it on CBS and they had pictures. Check your sources.
Building Resentment? You mean ‘ certifying or gelling’ a resolve to an Acceptable universal condemnation and escalation into Absolute NATO war?
Go for it.
Let’s get this party started!
Germany’s neo F.M. admonished Ukrainian values as being their own national values with No condemnation for the Fascist movements throughout Europe and the Commonwealth including the USA.
She cannot even say “Nazi”, the German ‘N’ word.
Those low-altitude nighttime Ukrainian “victories” certainly do seem few, far-between, and all-too-late in the game. I’ve seen some rather ugly videos of those helicopters — complete with dismembered corpses — littering the ground. The Phase One war of maneuver by numerically inferior Russian and LDNR-militia forces have successfully cut off and isolated the far more numerous NATO (Nazi-American Terrorist Operation) forces in several cauldrons. The Special Military Operation will now transition to Phase-Two: the grinding and crushing of surrounded Nazi forces unable to leave their holes in the Donbass region where they continue to bomb and kill nearby civilians as they have for the past eight years. Their days of doing this would seem numbered now to something like a few weeks given that their food, ammunition, and fuel depots have largely gone up in smoke.
The Ukrainian resistance is unfolding like a classical nationalist resistance movement. The military goal of a guerrilla movement in its first stages is merely to survive and to make occasional, insignificant attacks on the enemy. The guerilla forces avoid traditional military engagement that they can’t win. The occupiers have to spread themselves thin to occupy the entire sphere of operations. The guerrilla make small surprise attacks and try to avoid defeat. This is the type of warfare developing in the Ukraine where what is left of the conventional army will go to ground and engage in harassing attacks on the Russians.
I do not sympathize with the neo-Nazis any more than I sympathize with the Taliban. I simply recognize that the same principles of popular national resistance that defeated the US and the USSR in Afghanistan or the British in Ireland, or the US and the French in Vietnam apply equally to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Putin was right in his reasonable demands. But he made a terrible mistake when he chose to try to achieve security by a war of aggression against a country that has resented Russian imperialism for hundreds of years. Russians are just the wrong people to de-Nazify Ukraine. Ironically, the invasion is making the Zelenskyy government stronger.
The invasion is leading to an occupation. The occupation is spawning a guerrilla resistance that will persist until the Russians are defeated. Repressing the resistance will strengthen the resistance. This is not an expression of sympathy for the resistance. I am simply recognizing that the same principle of blowback that worked for the VC, the Taliban, Hezbollah, the IRA, the mujahideen will work to defeat the Russian invasion.
WHO else is wiling to confront Nazis or Neo- Nazi-Facism in the region among NATO?
I saw the neo Foriegn Minister of Germany on PBS and she wants one thing : for the bombing to stop. She also mocked any Peace negotiations ongoing with Russia like she could not process that the bombing continues until an agreement is made. What a maroon. She also identified with Ukrainian values.
That means Germany supports a long war, an industrial warehouse-clearing war and the landfill for it all is at this time, is Ukraine.
She makes resolve easy. If NATO wants a war, they get one in spades.
ABSOLUTE WAR is on the plate and Germany wants more*.
* Poland will wake them up. Poland hates Germany as much as it hates Russia and Poland has the Uke WMD’s.
The only people who can effectively de-Nazify Ukraine are the Ukrainian people. Putin should have supported an indigenous Ukrainian resistance. It takes time. But in the long run the only way to effect stable regime change is to support an indigenous movement. The Russian invasion is only increasing support for the Nazis.
Imagine if the UK invaded the US in 1859 to end chattel slavery. The invasion would have destroyed the abolitionist movement. Radical anti-slavery Republicans and free-soilers would have united with the slave owners, the Jackson Democrats and the Northern Democrats in a patriotic national resistance movement that would have expelled the British invaders. Slavery would have continued much longer than it did.
It is the same in the Ukraine. Preemptive war generally makes things worse.
Putin was right about wanting to keep Ukraine neutral and ending the oppression of Russians in the east. There are some very nasty people in and around the government of Ukraine. But Ukraine was never a security threat to Russia. The ethnic conflicts within its borders were an internal affair.
I supported Putin up until the point that Russia invaded Ukraine. Most folks on this list don’t understand the Ukrainian national experience with Russia. It is a lot like the history of the English and the Irish. Ukrainians have resented Russian overlords for centuries. A Russian invasion engenders a national resistance movement that unites anti-Nazi Ukrainians with Nazis in opposition to a perceived common enemy. Ironically, Russia’s military superiority is unifying and strengthening the Ukrainian nationalist movement
The only thing that justifies war is self defense against an actual or imminent attack or to stop a holocaust level genocide. Putin should have supported and/or built an indigenous resistance to the Nazis in Ukraine and kept the peace.
With very few exceptions:
“A just war is just a war.” .
“The only thing that justifies war is self defense against an actual or imminent attack or to stop a holocaust level genocide.”
yup. I agree. Russia believes and has announced that this war is Self Defense from Genocide.
just say No to nazifacation of NATO, Russia does!
A Holocaust event is exactly what is facing them and it is smothered in Religious Right Snakeoil from our Pulpits.
what could go wrong ?
A holocaust level genocide means hundreds of thousands of victims killed.
In other cases, like the Ukraine, the consequences of war are worse than the casus belli.
“A just war is just a war.”
There are very few exceptions to that rule. Ukraine is not one of them.
good points, you win the debate!
Now sell your sausage to those who insist on policing Russia After we universally looted them!
You insist the Ukraine is a victim but like NATO want a pound of flesh after draining them financially.
A holocaust genocide will be watching NATO embroiled in the war you promote as just.
That end is to kill Not to save many souls from destruction.
Joseph saved his kin, even the conspirators from death.
What do you want to save from that hemisphere?
Habitable peace or bottom line dividends?
Why don’t you get a rifle and drive over there?
Same reason you don’t. It’s not my war. we are just commentators in the peanut gallery.
It is a shame to see so many good people on antiwar.com gripped by classical war fever.
Just wars are usually not worth the cost of admission.
Just War?
Starlink is broken.
Is defeated with Hypersonic delivery of Conventional Warheads. It doesn’t go nuclear until NATO throws one.
better stay with slings and arrows: Decimate the ground troops when in range.
lol.
2,000 km range
3,800 MPH (6,170 km/h)
20 minutes max to impact and Starlink is completely useless against them.
The Taliban found a work around.
how?
Starlink was not up to help anyone until recently.
are you moving the goal post, let’s talk about Starlink Darlink?
You definitely are not European
can you clarify that statement?
What is the Solution you wish to stand behind to make your point?
The Taliban have a technological disadvantage, that is not a virtue son.
Starlink is a failed design based on 1960’s ICBM defences.
The Taliban do not have Hypersonics, so what mysterious tactical knowledge of the Taliban are you brow beating yourself with in public?
was it a CO2 laser and not a drone attack like the Refinery attack FF the Saudis used to help sell Starlink controlled Missiles with replenishment contracts to other Arab states?
Lindsey darling needs help selling systems to Qatar and Afghanistan and our 24/7 space based defence system was used at the refinery’s and on the decks of tankers, not limpet mines on hulls as was advertising.
Now so called astro physicists report that there are intelligent bursts of energy coming from constellations: it’s A CO2 LASER, FROM STARLINK.
We reported it was a drone attack. An invisible drone like the ones that flew over the 24/7 refinery town where not a single military could back up the flight paths and there are lots of eyes and ears watching all the time. Not a single eye witness of the most successful attack of drones and missiles from Iran.
it was Starlink on parade. Riyadh was about to hold a banker’s buffet and sold the Peace Plan Package to the world.
Our response to a hypersonic was to use Starlink on a Russian fuel depot.
you were right about Nazis becoming stronger.
NATO is not seeking peace. Why should they ? NATO HAS A COMBINED CONFEDERACY OF ADVANCED MILITARIES AND THEIR INTERCONNECTED WAR industry ECONOMIES.
NATO nations are sick with them, we have an ongoing coup here in the USA until the Nazis are dead but here like in NATO nations, Nazis have rights.
Another utter waste of time. With Russian air superiority, Ukraine tanks are just sitting ducks. Plus, first you have to get them over the border – it’s not like small arms that can be hidden in trucks carrying humanitarian aid. Second, they have to warehoused and maintained – those warehouses will be known and destroyed. Third, driving a bunch out into the field will be spotted and destroyed, if not immediately, then as soon as they approach an area of operations.
The whole thing is just PR for idiots who believe this nonsense.
Berlin is handing over a squadron of BMP-1s. These infantry ‘tanks’ first were introduced in the late 1960s.
It’s simply part of the strategy to keep fighting the Russians to the last Ukrainian drop of blood.
Actually it’s not even that. It’s just a PR effort – and they don’t mind getting rid of some obsolete hardware that is costing them money in storage charges, as long as it convinces their electorate and the Ukrainians that they’re “doing something”.
Ahh, I love the smell of thermite and phosphorus burning in the morning!
( see Apocalypse Now, Wagner’s Valkyrie music Scene)
“Expect A long Protracted war”~ Joey Blowey on Europe’s future.
As long as NATO enables and harbors Ukrainian Nazi ANYTHING, the lawlessness of Ukraine will live unaccountable. At the Nuremburg Nazi trials, there were few seeking forgiveness or accepted responsibility for their murderous actions. That is a criminal’s resolve: to lie, to deny.
NAZIS and Fascists and canabalistic freaks like Idi Amien do not go into treatment and recover, they have to be destroyed because they house unholy spirit, they are children of rebellion and disobedience for whom the wroth of God is reserved.
Cheers.
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The headline I saw is these DDR museum pieces are being ‚sold‘ to the Kiev regime.
The Russians did a piss poor job of locating and destroying the Ukrainian helicopters that attacked the Belograd oil depot or the Ukrainian naval vessels that sank the Saratov in the supposedly occupied harbor of Berdyansk.
After five weeks the Russians were unable to secure Ukraine’s western borders where weapons from NATO are passing through. Even if the Russians can avoid a tactical disaster, they are headed for a protracted war of attrition that they can’t win.
I spent a year-and-a-half training the now-defunct “military” of the musical-chairs Saigon regime in Vietnam. As soon as we Americans withdrew (with our money) and ceased our savage bombing campaigns (which included Cambodia and Laos) our “trainees” threw down their weapons, took off their pants, and ran off in their undershorts. Pretty much the same thing happened to the U.S.-trained Iraqi and Afghan “military” forces, as well. From my background and experience in these matters, I would say that a handful of nighttime helicopter raids to rescue surrounded NATO advisers (some ending in bloody wreckage) looks more like the last days of Saigon and Kabul than any harbinger of “protracted war” (after barely more than four weeks). NATO had best concern itself with what comes next. The Russians will decide what, if anything, remains of the former (and short-lived) “Ukraine.”
The guys u trained were local enforcers for the us empire, the guy who fought them were the ones fighting for their people. The Ukrainian r in the second category and they will fight hard, taliban fought against overwhelming power for 20 years and there is,a very good chance
the Ukrainians will fight for their land with the same vigor.
Us and ussr both empires fought brutal campaigns in Vietnam and Afghanistan but couldn’t pacify people fighting for their land and people
Comparisons with Vietnam and Afghanistan are both faulty. The C14 or Azov neo-Nazi fanatic may be ready for martyrdom in his holy war to lead the white race to final victory, the regular Ukrainian recruit isn’t.
The nice middle class kids from Kyiv or Lviv want a comfortable Western living style with plenty of Euros. That’s no use to them if they are dead.
Not you again. That was an embarrassing error from the poor Ukies, brave as they were, and not proudly claimed by the Ukie government. Look out for a few real websites besides the MSM propaganda. Here on antiwar we all know that and don’t need the repetition.
Umm . . . The reports of the Belograd attack came from the Russian military with pictures.
I suspect the Ukrainian resistance is developing a decentralized C&C. The Russians have the power to subvert and destroy a centralized C&C structure so the Ukrainian military is going to ground and becoming a movement of national resistance.
The Ukrainian government may not want to claim credit for the Belograd raid because military action on Russian soil is a violation of international law. Under international law Ukrainians have the right to resist the invasion and occupation in their own territory. But it is still a violation of international law to attack a foreign country on its own soil. The Zelenbskyy government benefits from portraying itself as the victim of Russian aggression and probably doesn’t want to be associated with illegal attacks on Russian soil.
dude,
a jump drive TeeVee tuner can be repurposed into a Radio Frequency Spectrum Analyzer.
With that one can listen and Watch for RF activity in electricaly dead zones: to listen to the mail.
How are the rag-tag Uke Militias going to stay in touch when their radios are beacons for custom tuned Kamikaze drones?
huh?
Are they going to use the polish Com sets made of two empty soup cans and some string? Or Starlink?
-over-
Musk is giving Starlink modems to the Ukrainians to fight with, to have secure communications on in NATO and in Ukraine. It offers a tactical advantage including millimeter radar, tracking, targeting.
That no fly zone the USA has defined includes Low Earth Orbiting Satellites (LEOS) in use over Russia in fair play.
Weaponizing Space is wrong, is unacceptable by treaty even if W tore it up in 2001.
AAAAND,…
Those mysterious cosmic light busts the Astrophysicists have identified just recently are CO2 laser bursts, not cosmic alarms from far away that we never heard before.
The Taliban figured it out.
“Not you again.”
Classless. I don’t agree with everything Skywalker says, but he is as anti-war as they come. Just because his opinion doesn’t match yours doesn’t mean he deserves to be treated with disdain.
makes a nice sideshow as every media head seems to know Putin’s game plans and report absolute destruction as simply being ” decimated”.
The Viasat Modem Cyber attack was quieted as easily as the radioactive poisonings in GB. Guess there are flaws in the latest FF narrative against Russia but news is good!
Commercial assets (Starlink modems) are being provided to Ukraine. A solution to Viasat vulnerability is Starlink.
The cyber attack was accurately warned in the media as a first strike. Do you know what this supposed first strike did?
It prevented the modems to connect with a perfectly good and reliable service.
A few years back USA Nuclear Plant was hacked and we were told it was Russia. If it was Russia, WTF Joe? That is an act of war.
: Who did it?
My point is this: the Viasat Modem event happened about a half hour AFTER Putin announced the Ukrainian Nazi offensive.
WHY screw with CONSUMER modems when you can screw up US Nuke plants? Or ones over there? The hack was very innocuous and annoying but IF IT WAS RUSSIA, WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR. A better reason to nuke them?
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How about the 2012 Anthrax-in-the-mail attack?
From a military standpoint, your analysis could be right. But the propaganda campaign still worries me. Wouldn’t it be great (for propaganda purposes) to record a video that shows a Soviet era tank firing on a high rise building?
It’s the timing I find suspicious. Zelensky’s image could change today as the entire world sees proof that he has been using his own people to act as human shields for soldiers operating out of residential areas in Mariupol. It’s the same thing we saw in Allepo.
Anybody with a brain must understand that Ukrainian forces operating from residential areas use the civilian population as human shield. Yet despite that, the Western public is firmly convinced that it is the Russians who commit war crimes.
I don’t know what has to happen to reach people who are totally indoctrinated by Western war propaganda. They will always find a way of blaming the Russians and excusing any war crimes committed by the Ukrainians. They idea of “we good, they bad” is so deeply ingrained in people.
In the nuclear age, we are all human shields ….
Very well said…
You seem to be really high.
1) Russia still hasn’t got air superiority which is really embarrassing
2) The Ukrainians just kicked Russia’s a$$ really badly around Kyiv
3) More lethal help to Ukraine might lead to them taking back Crimea
4) Putin is likely dying, which explains the total lack of leadership
You cannot be serious: “Night vision devices, thermal imagery systems, and optics” are sensitive devices not to be given to non-NATO countries. The bizaro world has lost it’s mind!
Zelensky and his clowns are like 3 year old children say I want I want everyday.
It is time for America to tend or own garden and take care of American citizens.
America can never do that . Always meddling in others affairs.
Damn busy bodies!
Night vision/thermal imaging stuff was sensitive 30 years ago. Now you can buy it on Amazon.
get your Night Vision Goggles here = tinyurl.com/y2t252wd
get ’em while they’re hot
dude, if you are that close with wearable night vision, you are tool close.
The night vision is for snipers?
do you really think Russia wants a guerrilla war?
A door-to -door sweeping war?
your link is messed up. What are you doing?
Some kind of dragnet?
looking for IPs?
Yes, night vision is for snipers.
It’s also for infantry patrol, perimeter defense, and watching the neighbor lady take off her clothes when she has the lights off and assumes nobody can see in the window.
again,
your military vision is for boots on the ground.
They are being filled with unregulated and poorly trained mercenaries and citizens to whom we give night vision scooes to?
The coveted night vision sought and routed via back channels are for militerized Finish made drones, not for ground troops.
yes, there are scopes being sent for ground troops but current state-of-the-art Aerial Recon is most effective with FLIR imaging cameras mounted on consumer drones. News drones feature them too.
A ground war is not where this conflict is resolved and any night vision used by Ukrainians and their Mercs is wasted resourcing: a pipe dream; hollywood stuff Steven Seagull would feature in: Rambo stuff.
Your ground war requires Russians stay within a targeting range.
Expanding a dead man’s zone is what Eastern Ukraine has become: don’t go there.
While I don’t have any particular vision of how this war ends, “a ground war is not where this conflict is resolved” is just another way of saying “this conflict isn’t going to be resolved.”
yup.
Germany is in and is weaponized: Don’t want to pay their heat bill either.
Media promised Russia was going to shut off the supply right away but Russia is in some kind of diplomatic -even business like posture.
Quite civil considering how much they hate Nazifacation of any country.
Drones are the favored solution and low cost tactical advantage to use in manhunts as are Promoted by the makers. One was used near here to find and kill a man.
Looks to me like NATO has been given all the rope they need to hang themselves with.
as for the end of this war?
NATO IS NOT SEEKING PEACEFUL RESOLVE.
“not one inch”
Night vision/thermal imaging stuff was sensitive 30 years ago. Now you can buy it on Amazon.
Why are we sending new equipment through Canada?
A: because it is BLACKMARKET -otherwise, not right, illegal even.
Canada is delivering packaged foods to the USA that is not labeled for USA consumption.
Zelenski pleaded with Canada for help. This is some of it.
The FLIR equipment made in Oregon was being routed to Ukraine via Canada. Why not use the old stuff if it’s been around? A: The new stuff is mounted on Finnish made goon drones sold to every police agency out there in the USA used locally in murderous manhunts. They are recon vessels of war and some are Weaponized. ‘Helicopter’ could loosely define any modern vertical flight conveyance including scary toys not for your eyes. We have Drone Helicopters, FYI.
The temperature differential resolution of the new cameras is astounding, the old was once too but no comparisons to woke evaluators.
They are mounted on NEWS drones -MEDIA DRONES but for some reason until recently, the MIL version Cameras were limited in distribution in Ukraine, a Neighbor of fascist Finland. To get there a back channel was made, perhaps a violation of DOD guidelines.
Why not use the old stuff?
On a Drone?
lol
The author, IMHO, has written a well thought out future scenar
Arm chair experts may be letting their bias and and anti Russian cloud reasoning,; as one can bet the mistakes of first invasion forces will not be made in 2nd phase. Russia just called up around 180 thousand conscripts but it takes time to train but that allows some 200 thousand more regular trained combat forces to be used, mainly mixed with now combat hardened, seasoned, military men.
Many tLk of military officer corps but in truth boots on ground find seasoned NCOs orders to follow when SHTF COMES.
NATO and US best add bundles of body bags when dumping old well used mobile military vehicles.
As to running out of small arms and with slight chances of resupply of Ukraine in Dobas area be surprised at how much mmo helicopters, like ones hitting Russian oil tanks, can carry and they need little time to load and unload..
What should be more worrisome is food and water plus military clothing. Trench warfare in rain s now and sleet is hard on men’s feet and hygiene.
Ukraine is not so much retaking but moving into Reas Russians strategicly retreat from..
Russia is regrouping not just immediate but future supply lines as well and we will probably see much heavier involvement of infantry ahead of armor use.
Fighting to last ma n sounds good but humans do want to live.
Gonna get real bloody this time around, with more use of both fixed wing and helps by Russia; lots more.
Of course now both sides will jail any media that they do not approve of, we may need US and NATO satelites bringing out damage reports.
Ukraine had best stay limber in order to be able to galantly kiss their butts good-bye.when Rjssia renews offensive actions.
The Russian conscript callup is unrelated to the war. Russia does that twice a year, in April and October. The conscripts get two months basic, then four in specialties. So this war will be long over before they could be deployed. Plus by Russian law they can’t be deployed outside the borders of Russia, so at best they might free up some contract troops when the current ones rotate out of Ukraine. A few apparently did end up in Ukraine, but that was embarrassing and they were withdrawn.
When MSM speaks of Russian conscripts, they invariably forget to mention that any man attempting to flee Ukraine is also conscripted.
“but have held off on sending more advanced weapons over concerns of provoking Russia.” hahaha! What about all the NATO stuff I have just read, proudly in Le Figaro in France? (I don’t know how they will actually arrive over the border from Poland!)
Fed-Ex?….
You’re on a roll today.
😆
Again: Congratulations to the lucky Bstards that will take them over the border. They’ll probably be vaporized within the hour.
All forms of military usage reduce to infinite regressive logic. We need to learn how to grow quality food without poisoning the entire planet. All the rest belies multiple forms of regressive logic.
Truer words were never said.
Worth checking out. A new assessment from The Saker on upcoming military situation.
Day 36 of the Russian SMO in the Ukraine – a look at Ukrainian military
http://thesaker.is/day-36-of-the-russian-smo-in-the-ukraine-a-look-at-ukrainian-military/
The Saker and whoever is in charge of the Russian invasion just doesn’t seem to understand that this war is not between the Russian military and the Ukrainian military. The war is a classic asymmetric struggle between the Russian invading force and occupying army against the Ukrainian national resistance. Imperialist invaders rarely understand blowback. The post World War II period is filled with examples of superior military forces being bogged down, worn down, bled down from a thousand skirmishes, and eventually defeated by protracted struggles waged by national resistance or national liberation movements. Ironically, the very act of repressing these movements makes them stronger.
You do realize that about 50,000 Ukrainians have taken up arms against the Kiev regime. Mariupol has been liberated mostly by Ukrainians.
yes, liberated from ukrainian govt by ukrainians
That’s how civil wars work. There has been a civil war in Ukraine since 2014.
Shame Zelensky wasn‘t able to implement his campaign promises. The people of Ukraine elected Zelensky on a platform of neutrality.
The “Ukrainians” who “liberated” Mariupol sure did a helluva job leveling the city. Not the sort of thing that builds good will. I missed the crowds of Ukrainians throwing flowers on the Russian “liberators.”
There are plenty of impropromptu videos of civilians in Mariupol overjoyed at their liberation.
The alien fighters holed up in Mariupol refused to leave. There are also plenty of video testimonials of civilians who were first hand eyewitnesses of the alien fighters executing civilians, holding civilians hostage.
So the Russians decided just to invade the poor patriotic peaceful democratic Ukraine, the poorest and most indebted country in Europe? You did not notice the years before, the buildup of attacks on the Donbass, the spread of Nazi propaganda (all on youtube, no secrets or shame) the refusal to have peaceful agreements with Russia, the infestation by US money, arms, “advisers”, Nuland, Biden, biolabs and NATO “help” and billion of dollars spent NOT on the people but the Army including Azov commanders?
good rip Anna.
Don’t forget the Viasat modems getting stupid in a hack attack from a reconfigured VPN about 1/2 hour after Putin’s Public Press Announcement that All of Europe was to see but could not. Why make an announcement and then shut down the media it was delivered on? Makes no sense tactically: it was a False Flag.
Starlink is now the commercial equipment being given to Ukraine by the USA, a complete blackout of the attack was observed by western media…
Starlink is a WMD that can be repurposed as a Wifi connection.
They have CO2 lasers on each bird.
Hyper Sonics by nature are unaffected by the heat of these lasers even if a Hypersonic could be tracked and targeted.
Starlink is in a faux pass.
try another move darlings
You’re an idiot. There is no resistance. Ukrainians are not Afghans, born with AK-47’s in their cribs. Do your trolling somewhere else.
He’s hardly a troll. The man is anti-war. Are you?
The Ukrainian National resistance happens to headquartered in Donestk and Lungask. These millions of Ukrainians have been fighting for 8 long years against the depredations of the Kiev regime.
I wonder how those weapons are going to get to Ukraine?
Well, if we’re only “liaising”, that can’t be too bad, right?… I guess that means, we hand off the weapons, drink some coffee and split?… “‘Here, have a box of machine guns and can I have some more cream for my coffee?”…. Fairly innocuous. Dasvidaniya!
You have mastered the art of sarcasm. (compliment)
Muchas gracias Duane!
They will still have to bring it in. There are no hiding places in open regions West of Kyiv. There is nothing that can pass unnoticed and destroyed.
But here is something unclear. Daily there are funds approvec for Ukraine, weapons approved.
But is it really going to Ukraine? Or are these just fast and furious money shuffling to suppliers — Afghanistan style. They lost the money gravy train once Afghanistan ended. Now, the frenzy started, a fever of money making. Not much will end in Ukraine. Ukrajne will be in debt.
Provided that there will be a Ukraine we know.
Part if it will go to Russia. It is funny how Ukraine still pretends it has a decision making power in Mariupol. Aziv Sea and this port will never be Ukraine again.
Another part of Ukraine, the West, the home of death squads respectably called Azov batallions, Tornadoes, Pravy Sektor, etc — will have to separate its lufe from the rest of the country. Russia would have accomplished nothing if Lviv retains control over Kyiv.
And the middle, Kyiv and Odessa will have to remain neutral from military perspective, but retain its Christian Orthodox character withiut Vatican meddling.
Vatican just “consecrated” Ukraine and Russia, which in its original definition meant to take out “error” from Orthodoxy. Sure. Vatican, was. and remains Atlaticist, and its nin-Western veneer is an empty shell.
Russia has ways to go in de-nazification of Kyev. It had to crush Azov in Mariupol. And many others in Kherson, and throughout South-east, But they are entrenched in Kyiv.
Even more now — two generals have been sacked, as Kiyiv is being possibly more strangled by extremists. Time will tell.
Russia is curiously giving a breathing space to Kyiv.
Let us see if the priority is the cauldron of surroundimed
Ukranian forced not alloeed to surrender.
Phase Ii is not even in the realm of guesd, Keeping it very close to chest.
This inevitably every time leads to “interdiction” strikes. It becomes an entire front of the war. Russia bombs NATO weapons and the supply lines they go down.
If this stays inside Ukraine, it is still a big thing.
In the past, the US has always extended this into interdiction strikes on the sanctuaries. Cambodia and Laos. Syria and Iran (yeah, we did strike them, cyber and drone and special forces and Israeli/Kurdish proxies) for the Iraq War. Pakistan for the Afghan War (yeah, we did do a lot of drone strikes there).
So would Russia be less violent than the US has been for the last 20 years?
Would NATO be more likely to widen the war than were Pakistan, Iran, Syria, when they were struck?
I don’t see how you can conclude otherwise than that NATO wants to escalate. They are training, arming and supplying co-ordinates for a NAZI army to weaken Russia, … the Afghan model, employing a committed terrorist contingent, that Hilary referenced.
They probably rightly assume that Russia won’t want to escalate the conflict to Nato countries. That means Russia has to intercept the weapons on Ukrainian territory. In the last analysis, that means that Russia might have to conquer the whole of the country – if it wants to or not.
Here is an anti war guy from Greece who I think is good. https://youtu.be/8hyjmcC3F7E
Ok, my question is what the Hell is U.S. doing holding Soviet era tanks?
To rent as Hollywood props?
Aside from keeping an eye on events so I get warned if they’re about to escalate to nuclear war, I’ve lost interest in this whole affair. None of it is going to affect me, except in the case of WWIII. So I won’t be posting any more here.
So long, Richard. We understand. Looks like the war will last a lot longer than you or the Kremlin expected. .If the Russian army needs to withdraw to recalibrate, I suppose you and the Saker deserve a break too. Please get back to us when you figure out what the Kremlin’s Plan B will be. And don’t feel too bad. Wars of conquest and regime change usually start off with great expectations for quick victory. Those expectations generally fall short. A few weeks of shock and awe is a lot more exciting than the years of occupation, resistance, stalemate and attrition that follow. Blowback is time consuming and boring to true believers in quick and total victory. Enjoy your break. If you have time you might read a copy of Barbara Tuchman’s “Guns of August.”
I heard through very reliable intelligence ‘channels’ that
Poland is calling up the Polish Underground Septic Tank Division.
Meanwhile Flubot and Methuselah has been tailored to ruin this terminal which means time is about up.
looking forward to values being defended like the German Foreign Minister on Amanpour yesterday saying they back Ukranian Values and are ready to go to war.
Values?
Like NATO becoming the fascist dreamboat of political perfection in EU while acting like Ukraine was their little bastard red headed goose stepping child?
Any Peace from this point forward will DEMAND greater destructions before any NATO country can get a moment of clarity.
As for providing Commercial products for intelligence, why not say what it is? It has a name, it is our 5G Solution for the whirld to be blessed with: STARLINK DARLINK. Why not say we are allowing privatized but publicly funded Starlink, our SDI to be deployed?
It can target weapons as well as destroy them.
Please, hurry up and defend German Fascism and Ukrainian Lawless unaccountable lifestyles: Hypersonics are standing by to respond if regular business becomes the liquidation ahd pirating of a nation like Russia for EU Nazi Values that the German people represent. Nice to know where they stand Militarily because it makes decisions easy.
So besides using the mail, how are they planning to “send” tanks? In a convoy traveling at 45 mph, train or ship thru the mined harbors?
Or perhaps they could base them in Poland, the most belligerent of the lap dogs. After all, they are requesting more US soldiers to be based on their borders; heck they have even offered to host nuclear weapons. Seems like another Ukraine in the making on our way to the Apocalypse.
This is obviously a Western face-saving operation with doubtful strategic value. Last year, Washington gave iron-clad security guarantees to Kyiv. Now, that Ukrainians are dying for the empire, Zelensky publicly puts the screws on Western leaders by telling them to put their money where their mouth is.
No matter what people here say, a protracted resistance fed by an unlimited stream of Nato weapons will be a major headache for Russia. It may force Russia to occupy the entire country – if it wants to or not.
But that is ignoring the political level. Without the 2014 coup, Ukraine could have kept its territorial integrity. With the coup, it gambled away Crimea. By stalling Minsk II for 7 years, it gambled away the Donbas. With the Decree 117 to recover Crimea and the Donbas by military force, Selensky violated UN Resolution 2202 and dealt the death blow to Minsk II, thus gambling away most of the territory the Russians occupy now.
There must come a point when Kyiv has to face the question if it wants to negotiate a peace Russia or if it wants to sacrifice the last Ukrainian and the last inch of territory on the altar of imperialism.
“Last year, Washington gave iron-clad security guarantees to Kyiv. Now, that Ukrainians are dying for the empire, Zelensky publicly puts the screws on Western leaders by telling them to put their money where their mouth is.”
Last year, Washington made some mealy mouthed statements that fall far, far short of “an iron-clad security guarantee.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/09/01/joint-statement-on-the-u-s-ukraine-strategic-partnership/
“Security and Defense
“In the 21st century, nations cannot be allowed to redraw borders by force. Russia violated this ground rule in Ukraine. Sovereign states have the right to make their own decisions and choose their own alliances. The United States stands with Ukraine and will continue to work to hold Russia accountable for its aggression. America’s support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity is unwavering.”
“Stands with…will continue to work…support…”‘
No “guarantee” of anything, much less an “iron-clad” one.
Article V of the NATO treaty is about as close to an iron clad security guarantee that the US gives to any nation. And Ukraine was and is conspicuously NOT a NATO member.
The US clearly is partly to blame for what is happening in Ukraine. But Zelensky and the Ukrainians generally have to take their share of it as well. Nobody actually promised them anything. At least not in public. It is Zelensky who has the big mouth, and who is “demanding” this, that, and the other, much of which, like the no fly zone, is a complete non starter, and none of which he or his country have any right to. He made his own bed, not only with the joint statement in September, 2021, but also with his nuclear hints re the Budapest Agreement in February, 2021. And now he is lying in it.
https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/zelensky-wants-to-gather-budapest-memorandum-signatories-to-have-new-security-guarantees-for-ukraine/
We like to blame the Empire for everything, but the leaders of vassal and would-be vassal states are not Babes in the Wood, somehow misled by the Empire’s “promises” or “guarantees.” Rather, they are political and moral agents in their own rights, and have to be evaluated on that basis.
Hopefully Russia will utterly destroy all of these weapons, and completely cut off the terrorist vassal states supporting the nefarious killers in the extremist groups behind false flag attacks on Ukraine citizens. These fiends are doing everything the biggest instigator of state terror tells them to do. Go Russia!!
Both Ukraine and Russia organized their forces based on lessons learned in the last 8 years of Donbas fighting. The new round of larger scale conventional warfare suggests those lessons were mistaken, special cases for limited fighting not new general rules.
I expect we will see both sides re-organizing their forces into larger units with a new balance of armor, infantry, and fire support, with new proportions of added special units like drones, EW, engineering, signals.
I expect Russia’s 800-man Battalion Combat Units will grow back into Regiment or Brigade size, perhaps some even as full Divisions that go into the field together rather than just as a name for a garrison unit from which to draw smaller units.
I expect Ukraine will use any new tanks and drones and missiles it can get in similar new ways, instead of small units to cover the locals in the trenches of Donbas.
Then we will see more movement, and see it work correctly without being halted by the first casualties or consumption of limited supplies carried in the units’ own transport. It is far easier to stop 10 tanks than to stop 100, and far easier to stop 200 infantry than 2,000.
Ukraine when part of the Soviet Union made many of the Soviet tanks.
Since independence, Ukraine has kept that industry going, and made many advanced models of the former designs. It has a large inventory of its own, and sold them all over the world. The advances were numerous and important, to fire control and armor especially.
30 year old obsolescent tanks without any of the new features are not much use. They could be remanufactured, if Ukraine had enough time to do that. But as they are now, straight from storage and completely out of date, their value is limited.