Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland said Tuesday that there are “biological research facilities” in Ukraine the US is concerned Russian forces might seize. She made the comments when asked by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) if Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons.
“Ukraine has biological research facilities which in fact we are quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach,” Nuland said.
Nuland’s comments came after Russia accused Ukrainian authorities of destroying pathogens studied at Pentagon-linked laboratories. “During a special military operation, the facts of the Kiev regime’s emergency cleanup of traces of a military biological program funded by the US Department of Defense implemented in Ukraine were revealed,” the Russian Defense Ministry said on Telegram.
The Russian Defense Ministry said pathogens that were destroyed include the plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other deadly diseases. The Russian military has claimed that it uncovered 30 biological laboratories in Ukraine linked to the Pentagon’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA).
It’s no secret that the DTRA funds laboratories in Ukraine, but Pentagon officials insist the labs are not bioweapons facilities. On February 25, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists published an article quoting Robert Pope of the DTRA’s Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, who warned the Russian attack on Ukraine risks dangerous pathogens being released from the labs.
“I would say from every facility that we have worked with them in, we have confidence that as long as the electrical power is turned on and the people we have trained are present at the facility, the biosafety officers, that these pathogens are safe and secure to international standards,” Pope said. “Should these facilities be damaged by conflict, that could change.”
Pope said he didn’t think Russia would deliberately target the facilities but warned of possible accidents. “I think the Russians know enough about the kinds of pathogens that are stored in biological research laboratories that I don’t think they would deliberately target a laboratory,” he said. “But what I do have concerns about is that they would … be accidentally damaged during this Russian invasion.”
Pope said some of the labs could still have leftover pathogens from the Soviet Union’s bioweapons program. “Scientists being scientists, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these strain collections in some of these laboratories still have pathogen strains that go all the way back to the origins of that program,” he said.
According to the article, the US government has worked with 26 facilities in Ukraine and has provided direct material support to six of them.
China has called on the US to release the details of the Pentagon’s biological research programs in Ukraine. “The United States, as the party that knows the laboratories best, should release relevant specific information as soon as possible, including what viruses are stored and the research that has been carried out,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian.
What a bloody swamp we’ve created… I’m with China on this, I’d like to know the details as well… Do they do this garbage over there, because it is so dangerous that they cannot do it here??? It is disgusting and shameful………..
The real question should be has the good Dr. Fauci been over there pushing gain of function studies?
As much as I like Dr. Fauci, I too would like the answer to that question.
In the spirit of your comment: So do we all, all like Dr. Fauci.
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We do it there because it is illegal here. Reports are that it includes Anthrax.
First, it violates a treaty. Then, it violates domestic US law. So we just do it anyway out of sight inside lesser allies, like we did rendition and torture.
The US govt & proxies engage in PLENTY of illegal activities on American soil but b/c MOST of it’s targeted at demographics that are deemed expendable there is rarely a peep mentioned about it. At least for decades and after they figure most of the victims are dead and can no longer sue.
agreed-sneaky-nasty and not just immoral but amoral…
The documents released by Russia so far do not prove the labs were engaged in “weaponization” of the pathogens. However, that the labs are funded by the US military is suspicious. I’m waiting on further analysis by the Russians of the other documents they have to make a judgement.
No need. You can safely think the worst of these types, …and they’re still worst-er.
But more important, you can now sense the tide turning the other way with public opinion, …especially heightening suspicion re the Wuhan Institute of Virology, having killed near one million in the US alone.
And what about Mrs. Nuland’s words? Why is she so worried about the labs falling into Russian hands? Could it be because the US is developing some new type of aspirin there?
Are you a moron?
Remember, the CIA flew captured Iraqi resistance fighters to Syria, where they could be tortured for information. It is illegal in the U.S. so they simply committed the crime somewhere else.
Back then the Syrians were de facto allies. Then betrayed to please the media and lobby groups.
We shipped them to Egypt as well.
And to Romania too
We sent some to Poland too. It is a nasty place, now “heroic” for the moment.
Abu Gharib
Look up Targeted Individuals and the use of directed energy & ELF weapons on them on American soil. For decades. So this kind of illegal torture is hiding in plain sight under the guise of tin-foil hat conspiracies and the mentally ill. But these weapons (including hydragel and parasites/nano bots observed in MrNA jabs) are acknowledged to exist and they have been illegally testing them on so-called citizens without permission for DECADES.
They will say anything to blame Russia.
When this was not even true, Sec of State Powell claiming it was reason enough to destroy and occupy Iraq.
So this means the Russians were correct and fully justified in what they’ve done to Ukraine, at least by US standards of behavior over the last 20 years.
Then again, the Iraq War was wrong. Does Victoria Nuland get to say that? Does Biden?
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Over at Moon, there’s been a considerable discussion about these labs. There’s a considerably history of these things all over the place in Ukraine, Georgia and elsewhere. Some people have jumped directly from “they’re there” to “they’re planning an attack on Russia”, for which no proof exists. There is “connect the dots” evidence, “real” evidence and proof. So far we’re only at “connect the dots” evidence.
No proof ? , what about a accidental re-lease when the wind is blowing across Russia , like Chernobyl which contaminated all of Europe because of wind direction .
Excuse me, what are you talking about? There has been no such release to my knowledge. We’re talking about labs and documents here, and an alleged increase in certain illnesses in the region, which have not been directly linked to these labs AFAIK. As I said, so far it’s “connect the dots” evidence, not real evidence.
“Biological research facilities” – Do they think the rest of the World is stuipid?
The US armed and helped Iraq to murder hundreds of thousands of Iranians and Kurds forty years ago. They know that Ukraine will not get nuclear weapons, so they supply them with the dirty alternative.
As I recall we supplied the Iraqis with chemical weapons That he later used on the Kurds.
I believe it was made in Rochester, NY.
Made in Rochester, NY.
Why would the US be running a hazardous bio-lab in Ukraine? Perhaps Putin wasn’t so paranoid after all. On the other hand, perhaps Ms Nuland is bluffing to prevent Russia from turning out the lights. She certainly has reason to be. See the map.
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-war-nuclear-risk-russia-missiles-accidental-hits-reactors-1478269
Well, why not? We have them around the U.S.: UNC, U of Washington, Ft. Detrick. Those are one we know of. We were sinking money in Wuhan (Obama curtailed some of the more risky stuff). Why not have a lab in Ukraine, next to Russia??? (I can back to the article because this got my attention: “but Pentagon officials insist the labs are not bioweapons facilities” BWAHAHAHAHAHA!)
There is st least one in Georgia,
It is amazing thst there is practicaly no control.
At a minimum there must be a prohibition of proliferation accross borders.
This is insane.
The one at UNC has had several “oops” events.
I read a few weeks back that we’re building a new bio lab in Texas, I think for Ebola.
I wonder is it a coincidence that Texas also has a very large African immigrant population?
Did the Eurpeans know about this ? , and if they did why did they allow it , if the yanks want to play round with biological germ war fare then let them do it on American soil not ours , and what was the plan ?, to release the biological weapons onto the Russain people , and contaminate Europe at the same time ?.
They can give 2 Sh*** about Europeans or even Americans at this point. If Covid has taught us 1 thing they want to kill allot of people.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/social-media-posts-misrepresent-u-s-ukraine-threat-reduction-program/
Fact-checkers kind of lost credibility with their support of COVID-1984 and clotshot vaxxes.
https://www.mediamatters.org/google/youtube-making-money-false-ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-tied-russian-disinformation-and
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/02/ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-qanon/
Beware of promoting Russian propaganda and QAnon conspiracy theories.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/02/ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-qanon/
https://www.mediamatters.org/google/youtube-making-money-false-ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-tied-russian-disinformation-and
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/social-media-posts-misrepresent-u-s-ukraine-threat-reduction-program/
This is the Pentagon version of a black ops site. The only reason for the military (as opposed to CDC) to fund bio-labs overseas is to be able to do research that is prohibited in the U.S.
Does ‘Dan Clore’ have a response to this that is not a mindless link to another website, why would the Pentagon fund research like this in a borderline third world country?
Next to Russia.
Wicked witch of the west Victoria Nuland the head Neocon had to admit the truth for a change.
But she quickly nuanced it into a fear of Russia.
Did you know that Victoria Nuland’s grandparents emigrated from Ukraine.
Perhaps that is why she was instrumental in the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine in 2014
How can NATO members not question the diabolical role the US plays all over the world, things like biological weapons labs involvement, flooding the world with weapons of war, overthrowing governments etc., and then continue to follow along.?
Actually the US government also helped them build nuclear weapons. Their is evidently evidence for this, e.g. mini bombs. If you wany to start to get a picture of what is going go to the web page of Gilbert Doctorow. Something tells me that maybe medical experiments were conducted on the the Russian speakera in eastern Ukraine. They sure didnt mind exterminating 14,000 of them hence further atrocities are not out of the question. Evidently Russia is going to investigate whether previous cases of swine and avian flu near the border were created on purpose.
The Chinese want to know what the American lab in Wuhan was doing.
From what Doctorow writes there will probably be some war crimes tribunal in the future similar to the one after WW2. Some Americans might find themselvrs on trial.
If anything the US through THEIR proxies are going to be behind a false flag where they can then justify a no fly zone
26 Wuhans waiting to happen.
Few would believe that these biological facilities were in any way benign.
Shhh. Move along nothing to see here-Just remember if we do it, like terrorism, torture, or war crimes its for god and country so its ok!! Got it? Or else!
Talk about evil. Even smallpox did they store there and all details will come out shortly. What Russia have known for quite a while is also that Pentagram in a project to create RACE-SPECIFIC viruses have been collecting Russian DNA.
This alone is more than enough for not only invade US’s little anti- Russia entity but also US itself in self defence. Evil satanic bstards!
Ah, so you saw the new Bond flick.
Foreign troll alert.
THE DC CORPORATION IS PURE EVIL AND MUST BE DESTROYED.
AND THEN, IF WE ARE LUCKY, WE CAN SURVIVE AND REBUILD.