Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz told reporters that he notified US officials during meetings in Washington last week that he ordered the Israeli Defense Forces to prepare to attack Iran.
The order he gave was to “prepare for the Iranian challenge at the operational level,” Gantz said on the sidelines of a conference in Miami, Florida, that was held Friday. A senior Israeli military source told The Times of Israel that Gantz might have presented a timeline to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin when an Israeli attack could take place.
The Israelis have been pushing hard for the Biden administration to abandon indirect negotiations with Iran to revive the nuclear deal that are ongoing in Vienna. Gantz and other officials want the US to expand sanctions and prepare military operations, and it appears that the Americans are listening.
Last week, amid negotiations, the US slapped new sanctions on Iran. A senior US delegation is headed to the UAE this week to work on tightening existing sanctions. Some banks in the UAE are still doing business with Iran, something Washington wants to stop.
The White House said last week that President Biden had ordered his administration to prepare for “other options” if diplomacy with Iran fails. “The president has asked his team to be prepared in the event that diplomacy fails and we must turn to other options,” White House Secretary Jen Psaki said.
The New York Times reported that back in October, Biden ordered National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan “to review the Pentagon’s revised plan to take military action” against Iran. The Times report said that Biden’s turn towards potential military options was to show Iran the US was running out of “patience.” But by already ramping up pressure on Iran, the Biden administration has barely given diplomacy with the new Iranian government a chance.
If it seems like you are reading the same article over and over again, you aren’t. This is just the last two weeks’ worth:
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/11/30/israels-lapid-says-credible-military-threat-against-iran-needed/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/02/israel-tells-us-to-immediately-halt-iran-nuclear-deal-negotiations/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/02/gantz-israeli-attack-on-iran-must-always-be-an-option/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/06/reports-israeli-officials-to-urge-us-to-attack-iran/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/07/israeli-officials-says-warming-uae-iran-ties-are-not-acceptable/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/08/report-us-and-israel-to-discuss-holding-drills-to-prepare-for-attacks-on-iran/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/08/report-israeli-government-divided-on-how-to-influence-biden-on-iran/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/09/in-us-israels-gantz-calls-for-joint-military-readiness-against-iran/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/10/israels-gantz-says-he-told-us-officials-iran-is-biggest-threat-to-global-peace/
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/12/13/gantz-tells-us-he-ordered-israeli-military-to-prepare-an-attack-on-iran/
This is just public signalling. The plans would have been laid many years ago if they didn’t already know they would fail.
My point was more about who the agitator is and how persistent that agitator is. Like a little yapping dog at your ankle.
My ankles are killing me! The Zionist dogs have done enough. The US needs to stand its own ground and not accept these threats. This is not the Zionist state of Israel, this is the United States of America.
Peace is the only answer, for everyone.
No more of my tax dollars to Israel Zionism.
Pay your taxes.
Hitler was quite popular among the Us WASP elite during the 1930’s. A popular magazine made him man of the year. Same with the antiwar crowd.Never again.
2 desperate men trying to start a war. Hell No!
Here’s how Iran can finally throw off the yoke of its yapping threatening neighbor-
Put ANY attack on it by Israel or whoever in a DEFENSIVE phase, NOT a retaliatory one. Iran’s defensive capabilities would eventually “sap out” the thrust of Israel’s attacks. This doesn’t preclude the possibility of nations in the region retaliate on their own for Ian attack on Iran in the name of “national security”. When all the dust and smoke settles, the world can finally and undoubtedly know for sure who the REAL aggressor was! It wasn’t Iran trying to “wipe Israel off the face of the map”, even when it had EVERY justification to do just that! No leader in the world will be able to hold back the tide of anger that will be directed at “Israel’s coddling”! Maybe the UN can finally do its charter-based job, instead of just letting the USA always rubber-stamp ANY Israeli aggression?
Meanwhile.a coountry if eight million people is supposedly joyously attacking a country of eighty million-come on.
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The passivity of Shiites to the provocations of war mongers is one of the most impressive aspects of their culture and one the descendants of Western Civilization should take notice of. Perhaps this passivity to the increasing violent hostility of American authoritarians is what most infuriates Israelis.
so in other words; business as usual
what are you talking about?
Click the links. It shouldn’t be too hard for a man with multiple degrees to figure out what I’m talking about.
Hell,I did. nothing comes up but a flag. I can respect an autodictat, which you are not.
They work on my original post. But if you’re too lazy to click those I can tell you that they’re articles that show who the constant agitator is and who is pushing for war. Hint: It isn’t Iran.
And I really could care less who you respect. I will say you seem to be lacking for a man who claims to have multiple degrees.
And the most simple and respectful comments I make are treated with profanity and derision.Get a life!
He has “multiple degrees”?
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So Iran should order an attack on Israel?
That is how wars go, both sides fight.
If the US is complicit, does Iran order attacks on the US? Are we willing to do that because Israel says so?
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iran would neverattack usa but the other() has history of doing so
Quite so. 1953 coup was an attack. Pirating an Iranian ship loaded with oil, then selling it on the open market, is an attack.
Preemptive war is only allowed to the US, NATO, and Israel.
Chechnya,Tibet
Iran has been anticipating this for 42 years. It is fully prepared. Is America (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002) ? Is the “Jewish State” ready to sacrifice untold Jewish lives? The answer to both is a resounding NO! But it may intimidate some chickens s…. into caving in such as the European lackeys.
Gantz Tells US He Ordered Israeli Military to Prepare an Attack on Iran
I am sure the Iranians are shaking in their boots!
Hi Warthog:
Does it concern you, though, that we are talking about nuclear countries?… It is frightening to think about how this could go nuclear and then everything hits the fan. best-donna/mg
To be sure, the Russians as well would not sit idly by.
Israel clearly wishes to start WWIII.
Meanwhile,the crime and illegitimacy rates in certain US communities are totally disgraceful
Hi Gypsy:
Thanks for your thoughts. I hope we are both wrong but your radar and mine seem lined up.
Donna:
Wonder if you read Caitlyn Johnstone. She maintains that COVID doesn’t matter, global warming doesn’t matter, because we’re going to be incinerated by nukes.
She’s a smart cookie.
Hi Gypsy, no I have not read it but I will take a look for it and thanks…
She is smart. I would love for her to be wrong but my own war radar is up…
Hi Gypsy: Well, I dislike, immensely, the idea of a nuclear bbq for my sorry ass but then it’s all of our asses…
Why live in fear – because global elite parasites say so?
Fair enough Warthog, yet, I would contend that that any attack upon Iran creates a myriad of potential problems for us all…
I am sure he will ride the first attack bomber.
Americans love war. Biden would like to start a war to increase his popularity before the midterms.
This is what would happen to Tel Aviv and parts of Jerusalem if Israel attacked Iran
Iran refuses to comply with USRAELI demands and rightly so. Iran is an independent sovereign nation.
Yes,they are-a nation bent on destroyingIsrael.
You mean Israeli occupation.
define occupation-occupation of 1967, or occupation of 1947.
Israel started the 1967 war. Israel, with the aid of the U.S., ran off more than 700,000 Palestinians, and, has ignored UN Resolution 242 (Right of Return), and, expands, expands, bulldozed homes, expands, expands, kills Palestinian sheep herds, destroys Palestinian crops, expands, expands, pumps sewage into the villages and their crops, expands, expands. Occupation, ethnic cleansing. Expand, expand, shoot children. Relentlessly. Controls potable water, electricity, travel. Expands, expands. Has the bomb, without signing the NPT, or allowing inspectors. All of the settlers are from outside of Israel. All. Expand, expand. Bomb Syria. Bomb Iran and kill their scientists. Has the bomb and threatens to use it. Expand. I could go on. Take off your blinders, man.
Egypt started the 1967 war by an act of blockade, and by stating their intentions to destroy Israel.
UN 242 would destroy the last refuge-UN can drop dead.
No nation is obliged to sign the NPT.
Never again-take off your own blinders.
Few Americans realize that we in US intelligence had long since concluded that Israel had been grossly exaggerating the Arab “threat” in early 1967. Fifteen years later, in 1982, former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin publicly confessed:
“In June 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that [Egyptian President] Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”
And NEVER FORGET the USS Liberty!
The surviving sailors’ lives were threatened if they told the truth; the execrable Lyndon “Welcome to Vietnam” Johnson said:
I’m not losing an ally over a few sailors!
Why were Jewish servicemen pulled off the ship before its assignment? The ship was to use information to toady up to Saudi Arabia. In time sof war, a tiny country cannot afford tohave its plans given way.Blame the pro-Arab Navy and State Dept.
If a much bigger guy comes up to you and says he will kill you,are you going to wait for him to give it to you?
Nasser said that his mission was to attack Israel.Some people say that the war was instigated bu the USSR as an excuse to attack Dimona and then wipe Israel out. The Judaophobia of the USSR was very real.
I quoted Menachem Begin. I wasn’t giving my opinion.
“No nation is obliged to sign the NPT.”
Including Iran. But they did and they’ve religiously – literally – adhered to it since.
Like you know what is going on in a huge country with thousands of DUMBs.
The IAEA says so.
It all began with the Balfour Declaration, (November 2, 1917), statement of British imperial pigs for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.”
Get used to it.If Muslim world had not practiced race riots and dhimitude,I might have more sympathy.
Don’t think Hezbollah will let that happen, they are far more prepared that you can imagine. They have been preparing for this for 40 years and Israeli diaper force is in for a big surprise 😬
Hope you are right.
Burn some dung.
Cobalt 60 will disinfect Hezbollah and its masters in Iran.
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If they are so bent on destroying Israel then why are they the only middle eastern country outside of Israel with a Jewish community? To be honest, the only ‘we will destroy you’ rhetoric I have been reading the last couple of years has been from Israeli politicians.
Iranian leaders are smart and patient.They drove out most Jews, and keep a few as showpieces. similar to Hitler’s model concentration camp-good propaganda. Besides, they have the Bahai,who are even more hated,to torment.
So the fact that they have Jewish members of Parlament and the rights of the Jewish community to practice their religion enshrined in law is just a clever ruse? You’ve got to be kidding me, that’s like postulating that the Civil Rights Act in the US is just a clever ruse to make sure Racism in the US perpetuated, absolutely ridiculous.
Yawn… they ain’t doing shit.
Pretty sure you are right, but the point is whether they can get the US to do their dirty wet work for them.
They won’t. The US is very aware that any overt military action will result in the closure of Hormuz and the instant loss of 20% of global oil distribution. The Navy itself is also well aware that any attempt to reopen Hormuz will result in the sinking of the Fifth Fleet (see Millennium Challenge 2002 war game).
While I certainly acknowledge that powder kegs only require a spark, and that a war with Iran would quickly spiral into something there is no turning back from (total war is the only possible response to 10,000 dead sailors. Perhaps the antiwar movement will develop rapidly, but surely not fast enough to prevent the escalation), it is precisely due to that fact that I do not consider serious any of the bloviation of the past 20 years from either the US or Israel against Iran. When Iraq, a fake religiously divided country, blew up in the neocons’ faces so quickly and thoroughly, even the most ardent hawks had second thoughts on their plans for Iran, a religiously united millennia-old civilization with twice the population, four times the land, and mountains mountains mountains.
You’re over-confident. The neocons don’t live in the real world. Especially when they never suffer any consequences of their failures and just move from administration to administration.
I think my confidence is justified by the fact that two decades of saber-rattling has not resulted in a war. Iraq was meant to just be a staging ground for an invasion of Iran (remember Wesley Clarke’s famous interview about neocon plans for seven countries in five years, with Iran being the finale). But it all came apart so quickly, even these crazy people realized Iran would be a catastrophe. Again, do not think me flip about the consequences of a breakout of overt military action, I have been following this issue for over half my life. It would be brutal, to say nothing of Pakistan and India’s reaction, and the ultimate potential to bring the West to direct military confrontation with China and Russia.
“I think my confidence is justified by the fact that two decades of saber-rattling has not resulted in a war.”
I’d heard that one before. Unfortunately, when two countries have this level of enmity, historically speaking, it usually ends in war – unless some other geopolitical issue derails it. Which is why I say Hezbollah in Lebanon is preventing the war – that and the current situation over Ukraine and Taiwan is threatening the US with a three-front war – which it can’t possible win.
I’m sympathetic to your position. I’ve been expecting a war with Iran since at least 2006, if not before, and it hasn’t happened yet. But we’ve come closer than ever in the last few years, and clearly the situation hasn’t gotten better and I see zero evidence that it can’t get worse.
Yes, I was certain the murder of Soleimani was it. Scary time. Would you concede, however, that we are at least not as close to war now as we were in January 2020?
My position simply describes the reality of 20 years of Middle East geopolitics. The Bush Administration wanted to invade 7 nations in quick succession, capping off with Iran. A pure delusion. But they do have eyes. Iraq was a calamity. They would never admit that America can’t win a war against Iran, but the fact that they did not press forward with an invasions shows that they privately realize the consequences of a war on Iran.
Certainly. though, the current Biden Administration approach is ridiculous and makes war more likely.
What the CIA, the neocons, the Israelis and the military-industrial complex want is to start the war – not necessarily “win” the war. Iraq derailed the Iran war but was aided by the NIE released in 2006 IIRC that concluded Iran did not have a nuclear weapons program and Bush’s later admission of that. In addition, Hezbollah became a threat to Israel in that year, which is why Israel tried to destroy Lebanon and failed. It’s not just because Iraq turned into a mess, although of course that was a significant part of it, giving rise to the whole “we don’t want any more failed wars” attitude of the public which also complicates starting another war., especially for Presidents like Obama and Trump who campaigned on not doing so.
But complications in starting a war doesn’t mean the war is off the table.
Yes, the danger is there for as long as Western militaries are there. I think we are in general agreement that this war would be a disaster for the world. Good vibes to you and yours. See you in the next thread.
And why did he feel the need to inform the U.S. of this? Isn’t this the guy who said Israel will go along in Iran and bragging about how easy it will be?
It is time to take out Iran in its entirety. It would only take a few minutes.
I have noticed my comments describing the ideology behind the atrocities Israel commits are being censored at antiwar.com while the comments advocating atrocities by the US and its ally Israel are allowed to remain. Is antiwar.com under assault from a cadre of prowar activists?
No one likes Iran. No one would miss Iran. They contribute nothing to the world. Their own citizens do not even like them.
The Persians had an advanced civilization when YOUR ancestors were swinging from trees, knucklehead.
Unfortunately, the Persian people are Under the control of a warmongering religious dictatorship, no different that a communist dictatorship, a fascist dictatorship,or an emperor worshiping dictatorship.
Iran hasn’t started a war in 200 years. I think you’re confused about who the warmongers are
They are at war with their own people.They blew up a Jewsih cultural center in Argentina.They blew up an Israeli embassy-one an act of war,one an act of genocide.
So when Israel does their assassinations or sabotages nuclear facilities, would that be starting a war too? Or how about their constant pushing for the “military option”? And why do you have to keep going back to 1994? Shouldn’t the scourge of the world, the threat to world peace, be piling up transgressions left and right presently that you could use to prove your point?
Who have they attacked???? Have the Iranians killed any Israeli scientists? Bombed any Israeli facilities?
Don’t bother him with facts.
When a mancocks his fistat you,you cannot afford him the opportunity of punching you.
If that’s supposed to be a metaphor, it should be directed towards Israel. They are the ones with the metaphoric fist cocked, not Iran. It is Israel doing the assassinations, the sabotages and the constant prodding for war. That’s undeniable.
I admire Iran’s striving for independence and am impressed by the social democracy embodied in Shiite theology. Capitalist imperialists despise nonaligned nations and liberation ideologies and will use any means, including mass murder, to eliminate them.
Meanwhile, my Iranian neighbor mourns the murder of her Bahai relatives by the secret police.She tells me that people in Iran are hungry,while the Ayatollahs kids drive around in the finest luxury cars.
My Iranian neighbor said it was the US/Israel that caused all the misery in Iran and that she had relatives murdered by mossad. See how easy that is?
Are you serious,or just mocking and fabricating?
The latter. Wasn’t that obvious?
This is your problem. You cannot tolerate dissent, and cannot tell truth from lies. My story was anecdotal but true,yours was wind.
And I say yours was bullshit. Just out of the blue you have a neighbor that can collaborate your talking points. She even knows the kids are driving luxury cars. Why not. Pardon me for the skepticism. But most of all, it’s not relevant. It doesn’t change what Israel, as a country, is doing to Iran. Such as sabotage’s, assassinations and constant prodding the US to go to war. I can tolerate dissent but not deflection.
The word is coroberate,not collaborate. HAHAHA.
By the way, my story is true, aND YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH.
Oh boy, you got me. Those degrees are paying off. You understood what I was trying to say even though I used the wrong word but ignored everything else I actually said and went right back to your deflection attempts by once again bringing up your IRRELEVANT story. No mention of the actions by one country towards the other because you can’t deny the obvious fact of Israel being the aggressor.
Looking back a few days, I see that you’ve had a grand total of one comment deleted (unless you’re posting under multiple names/accounts).
That comment described no ideology. It was only four words long, and one of the words is commonly used as an ethnic slur.
So no, Antiwar.com isn’t under assault from a cadre of prowar activists. It’s just hosting your unfounded pity party, that’s all.
A comment comparing Ukrainians to Pakistanis was also censored. Thanks for the reply.
Nothing was “censored.” You can say anything you want to say and aren’t being prevented from doing so. You’re not automatically entitled to use Antiwar.com’s microphone to say it, however.
Why? Because they are “bad”? “Scum”? And perhaps the fact that it has been hundreds of years since Iran attacked another country.
With everything else going on in the world, we now need do endure threats of war from Israel?… And the US will probably take its marching orders from Israel as well?… Heaven help us. Diplomacy must prevail…
We are talking about nuclear countries, this will not end well for anybody…
The interesting thing is that IF Israel attacks Iran, the whole Arab world from Morocco to Syria will come together and turn on Israel. Everyone of them.
Pakistan will happily join in, as will Turkey.
Every US base in the region will be a target and will be wiped out.
If any Arab government were to think of standing with Israel it would be overthrown before evening prayers.
The Arab people hate Israel.
PS Russia and China have troops in the area and have major investments in Iran. Israel is playing with fire.
Where are these Chinese troops you speak of?
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You see, this is Christmas Story and the two bullies in the flick is The usa and her lil’ buddy israel(can do no wrong-even though its not one of the five eyes)who whacks at everyone with relish, that is not kosher by any means
This is not rule of law,this a few who decide who can and who cannot have a weapon. Two apartheid states developed nukes on their own and one still has them. Now it has subs to keep them in. Do they have to go by the same rules, laws etc as we do, the french do, the english do,etc?
meanwhile, back in israel, the israeLIES have an indeterminate amount (more than 1 and less than a million) undeclared nuclear weapons..
But israeLIES dont want to talk about that, they want to bang on about Iran’s non existent nuclear weapons, like they’ve been doing since the 80’s.. that’s right, israLIES have been desperately trying to convince the world since the 1980’s that iran was just moments away from creating nuclear weapons..
Educate yourselves about Israel’s intentions by reading the “Oded Yinon Plan” that describes in detail how Israel wants to assume power in the Middle East with US support by the insidious “divide & conquer” strategy. America should not be an abettor to this vile strategy.
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, a war with Iran is not feasible until the US and Israel can figure out two things: 1) how to avoid being blamed for starting it unilaterally, and 2) how to prevent Hezbollah in Lebanon from joining in and causing the Israeli economy to evaporate.
The first might be evaded by some false flag or propaganda push about Iran actually getting a nuclear weapon, but the second is a show-stopper unless Israel can convince the US to join it in attacking Hezbollah unilaterally.
Israel has had plans to attack Iran for years. This latest is just them updating those plans and saying so for PR value and to try to pressure the US to join in.
The problem for Biden – and thus, Israel – is that he has two other more serious crises at the moment: 1) Russia demanding NATO cease expansion and aggressive military moves within a specific time frame, and 2) China ticked off over Taiwan moving toward secession. Iran has to take a back-seat to those.
How can Taiwan move toward secession-its a free country-its up to their people to decide,no one else.
This might seem ideal, however geopolitical reality overrides that. China for its own historical reasons treats Taiwan as part of China. It was part of China since forever, until the 1940’s when the Koumintang lost the civil war and took refuge there (under a dictatorship, I might add.)
This was the policy for China, Taiwan, and the US since the 1970’s agreements were made between all 3 parties. The “One China Policy” has been official US policy since then. It’s only a “free country” because the mainland government has allowed it, intending to reunify by peaceful negotiation at some point.
But the US neocons want to use Taiwan to help “contain China” – which is an absurd position. So they are encouraging Taiwan to declare independence. This is an existential red line for China, and China will use force to prevent it if necessary. And there is little the US can do about it, because China has the military advantage in the area of operations.
Taiwan has been briefly ruled by “China” at times. It has only been “part of China forever” in the same sense that Cuba has been part of Spain, the Philippines part of the US, etc. — that is, it’s an island that’s occasionally been invaded and occupied.
From Wikipedia:
“The sudden appearance of a culture based on agriculture around 3000 BC is believed to reflect the arrival of the ancestors of today’s Taiwanese indigenous peoples.[3] The island was colonized by the Dutch in the 17th century, followed by an influx of Hoklo people including Hakka immigrants from the Fujian and Guangdong areas of mainland China, across the Taiwan Strait. The Spanish built a settlement in the north for a brief period but were driven out by the Dutch in 1642.
In 1662, Koxinga, a loyalist of the Ming dynasty who had lost control of mainland China in 1644, defeated the Dutch and established a base of operations on the island. His forces were defeated by the Qing dynasty in 1683, and parts of Taiwan became increasingly integrated into the Qing empire. Following the First Sino-Japanese War in 1895, the Qing ceded the island, along with Penghu, to the Empire of Japan.”
In other words, Chinese lived in Taiwan since the 17th Century, and from 1692-1895 (i.e., 200 years) was ruled by China. Wouldn’t call that briefly. Also, despite the Japanese rule from 1895 to 1945, I don’t think one could justifiably say Japan has any claim on Taiwan. The same applies to the Dutch and Spanish who ruled it for a while.
Clearly the Chinese have greater claim, especially since their defeated Chinese enemies occupied it (under martial law, at that) since 1949. That alone takes any US claim to be a party to the conflict out of consideration.
“In other words, Chinese lived in Taiwan since the 17th Century, and from 1692-1895 (i.e., 200 years) was ruled by China. Wouldn’t call that briefly.”
Two hundred years out of 5,000 sounds pretty “brief” to me, especially since it’s been more than half that long since the last time the place was ruled from Beijing.
“Clearly the Chinese have greater claim”
No, the Taiwanese do. If they want to be “part of” Beijing’s regime, that’s a decision they’re competent to make.
Either way, the US shouldn’t be involved at all.
“Also, despite the Japanese rule from 1895 to 1945, I don’t think one could justifiably say Japan has any claim on Taiwan. The same applies to the Dutch and Spanish who ruled it for a while.”
Exactly.
Once again, China has as good a claim as anyone, especially considering that their enemies ruled the place for that “more than half as long period.” And that “more than half as long” period also includes the forty years that said ruling party agreed that they were part of China as per treaty.
In any event, what matters is the geopolitical situation: 1) China will claim Taiwan, and 2) the US has no business being involved.
I strongly suspect that US involvement is aimed at getting the Beijing regime to “claim” Taiwan.
In the 1980s, the US foreign policy establishment resolved to give the Soviet Union its own Vietnam in Afghanistan.
Now that foreign policy establishment seems to hope it can give the People’s Republic of China its own Afghanistan in Taiwan.
Absent goading from the US (or the need for a distraction when the CCP regime begins to collapse), Xi seems like he’s probably smart enough to leave well enough alone, as the status quo is quite profitable for both countries.
I agree with your last paragraph. China clearly doesn’t want to invade Taiwan absent need.
You may be right about the US wanting China to fight Taiwan. This would be in agreement with the US approach to Ukraine – sacrifice Ukraine in a war with Russia in order to further demonize Russia. Of course, in neither case will there be an “Afghanistan” because both China and Russia have comprehensive and decisive military superiority over the relevant parties.
But as I’ve mentioned elsewhere here, it appears that the CIA, neocons and military-industrial complex don’t care whether any war is “winnable” – they just care that it’s “startable” so they can profit from it in their own ways.
Let the people of Taiwan determine their fate-those who actually live there.
False flag. Works every time. Also constant lies, the Goebbels strategy.
If we go to war against Iran, if I don’t get blown up first, I may well renounce my American citizenship, which seems to be one in the same with regard to Israel. I am an American, not an Israeli and not a Zionist.
I am, however, part Comanche.
You then, my friend, are one of the few TRUE Americans.
Anyone who is a US citizen,obeys our laws, and tries to be a respectful and productive member of our society is a true American.
Zionists just bluffing. Israel will not attack Iran either with US help or on its own.Because they can not. If they could they would have done it much earlier without even the world knowing it.Now it is just posturing. may beto bleed more from their salve, USA