On Wednesday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US position on Syria is to “oppose” the country’s reconstruction and not support any attempts at normalization with the government of Bashar al-Assad.
At a joint press conference with his Israeli and UAE counterparts, Blinken said the US has not “changed our position to oppose the reconstruction of Syria until there is irreversible progress toward a political solution.”
More and more Arab countries are accepting that Assad isn’t going anywhere and have taken steps to normalize, including Jordan, which opened its border with Syria in September. Blinken said the US does not intend to “express any support for efforts to normalize relations or rehabilitate Mr. Assad” or lift a “single sanction” unless there is regime change in Damascus.
US sanctions under the Caesar Act against Syria specifically target the energy and construction sectors to impede the country’s ability to rebuild after 10 brutal years of war. The sanctions can target any person regardless of nationality, discouraging Syria’s neighbors from helping in the reconstruction.
On top of the sanctions, the US also maintains an occupation force of about 900 soldiers in eastern Syria and supports the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces in the region. This area of Syria is where most of the country’s oil fields are, so the US presence keeps vital resource out of the hands of Damascus.
Washington’s economic warfare against Syria is exacerbating the country’s food shortages. According to the UN, as of February, the number of Syrians that are close to starvation is at 12.4 million, or 60 percent of the population.
Se my comment to this article.
Now, now, not everyone can have a proper Roman name.
By targeting the Syrian people the US is committing genocide. It will only result in more hatred for the US and Israel.
Your correct analysis matters little in the long run. The US is targeting its own people, too, committing domestic genocide via mandated WuFlu shots.
Please stop such a stupid comparison.
The COVID vaccines seem to have a far higher rate of bad reactions than any previous vaccines. They should have been pulled long ago to be in line with pre-COVID acceptable public safety standards.
J&J and Moderna were both – correctly – cancelled for bad side effects but then – corruptly – reinstated.
The Japanese have found significant contaminants in their Moderna vials, but no-one is being held to account.
Vitamins D, C, K, B12 and zinc are the immune system’s best friends, vaxxed or not.
However, the choice is a personal one to be made without bullying and coercion. If there were really a danger, SARS CoV-2 would be coercive enough and not need COVID-1984 measures..
Yet vax danger has become part of the social pressure to vax; its progressive virtue signalling with bite.
Like how joining the army to fight a needless war, place oneself in needless danger, to become one of the ‘in’ crowd of vets is more serious than usual patriotic virtue signalling.
Or how forcing the resistant to concede, grants a sense of smug satisfaction not unlike how mafioso like forcing good people to sin for them.
Reinforces that negative worldview that people are all hopelessly flawed and bullying should prevail.
“However, the choice is a personal one to be made without bullying and coercion.”
Exactly. Personally I talked to my doctor and she recommended I get vaccinated. I did. Unlike Eric Clapton, who said he took the vaccine because the propaganda said it was safe for everyone, I took it because all I heard was for people to talk to their physician before making a choice. It’s been 7 months since I was vaccinated. I didn’t experience any nasty side effects. I haven’t contacted COVID although I don’t know if the vaccine is responsible for that since I’m a raging health nut. But “domestic genocide”?
For people affected by vaccine injury, as direct victims, friends, loved ones, and observers, it can feel like domestic genocide.
Vaccine mandates are sometimes being forced even on those who were injured by their first shot and are fearful of becoming more disabled or dead after their second.
There are enough vaccine injured and dead for a charge of domestic genocide to have effect. Either you are fit to survive the shot, or you are not; in that sense, its a genocide of the vaccine-sensitive. A particularity we know little enough about.
genocide (noun)
1. The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
2. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.
3. The systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status, or other particularity.
American Heritage Dictionary
The long-term side effects of the vaccines and continual booster shots have yet to be seen.
I’m not going to get into a long back and forth. Lets just say I disagree with you thinking this is domestic genocide, attempted genocide or even the “feeling” of a genocide.
Short term effects of SARS-cov-19 are death, and death. Long term effects to lungs, heart, brain cannot be mitigated.
“Bad reactions” are so very small, compared to the successes. I am 77. I received my two doses of Moderna earlier this year. The only reaction I had was a mild fever after the second shot (as predicted). I take daily vitamins. I stay active. I want to be upright for a few more years and to my mind the decision to get vaccinated coincided with that desire. Did you know that the Plague was here in the U.S. and lasted 18 years before eradication? From the 1800’s to 1909. Primarily back East. Nice little secret. I hope SARS-cov-19 is not around in 19 years, but I fear that mutations will make it so.
Oh for h*ll sake!
LIke their wonderful work in afghanistan?? Arghh.
Create massive migratory outflow of economic refugees. More room for Zionist settlement, …and on to the Euphrates.
Again, Dave was doing so well until he hit me on top of the head with: “Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces in the region.” What evidence do you have that an ethnic cleansing group of fighters are in fact “democratic?”
To be fair, that is what they call themselves. I don’t think Dave is agreeing with their misleading moniker.
True, but it would be better to give a correct description, and then mention the lie in the official name.
I know where you and NA are coming from and I don’t blame you. The propaganda machine never rests so maybe everything, like the SDF or the “Patriot” act, should be explained in detail EVERY time it is mentioned to offset said propaganda machine.
You guys get me. You’re my brothers!
Reflecting on how I myself digested the MSM “fake news” before I started reading Justin Raimondo in 2000, I came to realize the following. It doesn’t take much to mislead the distracted American public. Sprinkle the words “democracy, human rights, rebels, and brutal dictator” around a little and we are ready to risk WWIII for a “humanitarian intervention.”
It’s the name of the group, not an authorial description of the group.
Yes indeed, after all,who voted for them, the oil? An acronym for their name might be less misleading – “the Kurdish led SDF militia” perhaps
Our media fails to report that Biden has been sending more American troops and tons of supplies into occupied eastern Syria. Why?
Excellent video
Greater Israel is the prize; an eventual DAESH victory would mean Israel now has a hostile, isolated, and very beatable power right next door to ‘defend’ itself against.
The Islamic State would inevitably attack. We’d have a Saturday morning cartoon righteous war defending Israel against a terrorist state.
The resulting NATO war for Israel would default all Islamic State territory to Israel as spoils of war, most of its indigenous inhabitants, dead or fled as happened in Palestine. Maybe the Kurds might survive, like the Bedouin linger in Palestine.
The plot seems ridiculous, but there the U.S. is, and the Hollywood outcome, obvious.
“most of its indigenous inhabitants, dead or fled as happened in Palestine”
Actually, the Palestinian Arab population is not only not “dead or fled,” it’s growing faster than the Palestinian Jewish (“Israeli”) population.
The murder them and drive them from their homes, but not fast enough, so it does not count.
It’s not that it “doesn’t count.”
It’s that it is what it is rather than something else.
And so what was it to you?
The Palestinians in 1948 and 1968 fled or died in acts of ethnic cleansing pretexted by war.
Only a vague sense of propriety and fear of world opinion, and lack of killing technology, kept Israel from acting worse.
Today, worse is possible. Anything labelled Islamic State in a DAESH Syria-Iraq would be free fire zones regardless of who was really there, had the war been for Israel.
Some DAESH captured in Aleppo, thought they were in Jerusalem.
“The Palestinians in 1948 and 1968 fled or died”
And yet somehow they are still there, still alive, and there are more of them than ever.
Yes, terrible things happened to them. But if I go to the police and say “I want to report a murder,” and then it turns out that what actually happened was someone broke someone else’s nose, I’m not going to be treated as a credible witness.
Making up bullshit like “most of its indigenous inhabitants, dead or fled” creates the same kind of problem.
Then we disagree rather strongly about what it is.
Um, now is now, then is then?
In 1948 the majority of Palestinians in what had been Palestine, that became Israel, fled to become refugees and diaspora or internally displaced, around 87% of the population. Or died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees
The precedent stands.
Yes, they were replaced by Mid Eastern Jews driven from their own homes.
Only corrupt math makes two wrongs a right.
“most of its indigenous inhabitants, dead or fled as happened in Palestine”
Actually, the Palestinian Arab population is not only not “dead or fled,” it’s growing faster than the Palestinian Jewish (“Israeli”) population.
“most of its indigenous inhabitants, dead or fled as happened in Palestine”
Actually, the Palestinian Arab population is not only not “dead or fled,” it’s growing faster than the Palestinian Jewish (“Israeli”) population.
“Greater israel” is a delusion.
Yes, it is.
Brainless Blinken…!
Mr Human Rights being very selective. Creep…..
You are too kind. Try “Evil….” The math works out much better.
“At a joint press conference with his Israeli and UAE counterparts”
And Blinken still had the balls to disparage Assad when he’s sitting between two people who make Assad look like a saint while he himself just admitted that the US is willing to starve 12 million people.
We did it during the Clinton administration. Something like 500,000 Iraqi children died. Albright said it “was worth it”. We are holding billions of Afghan money. We are mad about losing to the Taliban, so, we will exact revenge against innocents.
“At a joint press conference with his Israeli and UAE counterparts”
And Blinken still had the balls to disparage Assad when he’s sitting between two people who make Assad look like a saint while he himself just admitted that the US is willing to starve 12 million people.
Ah, Syrian Democratic Forces! They are neither Syrian, nor democratic nor forces.
They are US paid mercenaries, Recruited from among demolished YPG, a former US Kurdish allies. YPG never represented Kurds, as they destroyed real Kurdish parties, forced leaders into exile. SDF was always US sham, but it was useful at the time US controlled Kurdish populated regions. No more. Turkey controls Afrin, Syrian Government controls Kobane, Russia and Turkey control border area to prevent PKK from freely crossing over.
So, now SDF is a pretext for US keeping forces in Syria. Now that Lebanon is being destabilized for the umpteenth time, keeping Syria warm for eventual takeover is the grand hope.
US got out of Afghanistan in order to double up in Middle East, While Australia and UK will keep barking at China.
And I would add to Bianca’s always astute analysis that the evolving situation in Iraq is a critical element in the trajectory of the larger US-Israel-Syria-Iraq-Iran situation.
Moqtada al-Sadr is now the power in Iraq. He will almost certainly effect the installation of a prime minister who will support the expulsion of US forces from Iraq. The Iraqi parliament has already voted for their expulsion, but the US-compliant current prime minister is unwilling to enforce the parliamentary demand.
The exit of US forces from Iraq would be a “game-changer”. It would end the supply lines to, and air support for, the current US occupation of eastern Syria. It would remove the current US blockage and enable the consolidation of the “Shia Crescent”, and the opening of a supply corridor from Teheran to Beirut.
It’s hard to imagine anything more catastrophically threatening to Israel. (An “existential threat” virtually guaranteeing an Israeli war against Iran?)
So I have to believe that Biden’s Zionist and Neocon handlers, in league with the Pentagon and CIA will strenuously refuse to leave Iraq.
Afghanistan was a burden. Temporary embarrassment aside, that withdrawal is an immediate net positive. Iraq is a different story. Because of the Israeli stranglehold — dare I say “subversion” — of the US political class, staying in Iraq remains an absolute and non-negotiable political and strategic necessity.
Rock hard place. Or perhaps I should say: Iraq hard place.
Interesting times.
I only hope. There is a huge barrier to forcing the US forces out of Iraq. The US has taken all the Iraqi oil revenue as hostage and is holding it in an American bank, Mafia style. The Iraqis will have to say goodbye to their money. I hope to see the day when all our troops come back home safely.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-access-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave-11578759629
SOME people blamed and still blame “The Jews” for WW2 also.
Yes, US is returning to Middle East. It has no more allies there — Israel highly alarmed.
Trotting out helpless UAE is indicative of times. A country that is a huge money laundering operation, cannot afford to be disobedient to the money that is funneled from US and Europe to Asian “tigers”, and vice versa,
But UAE is only thirty miles or so from Iran, so Israel making itself at home there — has been duly noted.
Apart from this neuralgic point, no country in the Gulf supports US-Israel aggressive plans towards Iran — or any further destabilization of the Gulf.
Biden Syria plan is to avoid being forced out of Iraq,
Biden is not likely to enjoy his new Syria plans.
For all those that think Turkey is a lone wolf in Syria — let me clarify. Nothing has been more coordinated with Russia, China, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Iran — than Turkey Syria policy. Latest Erdogan-Putin meeting charted new directions.
What we see is a carefully choreographed series of moves to give Assad, Russia and Turkey room for influence building with separate entities.
Thus, Assad always defends Kurds as Syrian population. He must show unhappiness with Turkey clamping down on PKK offshoot — YPG, while benefiting from it.
And during Trump administration, US withdrawal from Kurdish-majority areas, ended YPG role. US relied on mercenary SDF. But here is news. Biden is propping up YPG again! What did he think? That Turkey was going to take it?
Turkey has already made the decision to attack newly emboldened YPG across the border that resulted in deaths of two Turkish soldiers.
Biden has choice to make. He can stop propping up YPG, or Turkey is moving in.
But Biden may have wanted YPG provocation — then he is ready with the spin on Turkey,
Does he need more enemies?
Will playing up Kurds as victims in Syria give him the support here at home for his re-entry into Syria?
For sure, it will buy him much animosity in the Middle East. But Israel will be happy. Having US lumbering in the neighborhood is music to their ears.
But Biden is merely buying — not biding — time.
We have been after the overthrow of Syrian government since Ike ordained it, at the same time ordaining the overthrow of the Iranian government (success in ’53).
The US smashed Syria, drove out its population, and will keep it smashed until Israel wins all its facts on the ground — Golan, West Bank, Gaza, offshore gas, and likely Southern Lebanon as well.
The Israelis will expand its illegal settlements to those areas unless the environment there is so badly damaged that no one can live there.
There are no settlements in the oceanic gas fields-and if you check on a map, the fields are off the Israel coasts and no one elses.
Nope. Off of the shores of Gaza. Palestinians are not allowed to capitalize. Why do you think fishing is limited to less than a mile, patrolled by Israeli navy. Israel controls potable water, electricity, gas, fishing, travel, all the while allowing more settlements separating the Palestinian communities. A slow moving ethnic cleansing, paid for by the glorious United States of America, the Shining White House on the Hill, the Magnificent One. We, the U.S., appreciates the effort because it was done here, with the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans and Mexicans. A sense of pride as if Israel were our first born. Glory be!
So give up your home to some native Americans. By the way,I did check a map before writing-the Gas fields are off the Israeli coast.
Had the Islamic State terrorists succeeded in breaking Syria, they would have threatened Israel next.
The resulting righteous war of self defense would essentially have defaulted all Islamic State territory to Israel as spoils of war.
This Biden foreign policy is a continuation of Obama’s to destroy Syrian stability in order to expand Israeli hegemony. Millions of Syrians have suffered because of Democratic liberals acceptance of this imperialist hubris.
You forgot someone. Artillery barrage. Two missile attacks. Gifting Israel Syrian territory. Killer sanctions. And Republican conservatives acceptance.
One expects Republicans to wholeheartedly support expansion of the empire and the killing of civilians. The humanitarian facade of Democratic liberals in support of empire requires explicit denunciation.
I can’t disagree with that.
The Syrian war has always had bipartsan support. Even Trump flip flopped on Syria.
Of course, it took a brass mutiny to do that.
“One revelation was that, while the Trump administration already viewed Iranian influence in Syria as a problem, Jeffrey and his team convinced the administration that there was no way to deal with ISIS (Trump’s main goal in Syria) without first dealing with Iran. In other words, the Deep State of which Jeffrey was a mouthpiece directed the president to engage in hostility towards Iran under the guise of providing “stability” to the region and “defeating ISIS.”
“Nonsensical as the argument may sound to readers of my articles, it apparently worked on the President of the United States.”
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/12/25/former-us-envoy-admits-misleading-trump-keep-troops-syris/
It is one thing to not participate in process of reconstructuring a country destroyed by war – but – how the Hell- does one have the gall to tell a war-torn country – “We will not allow you to rebuild your damaged homes and commercial buildings – we want you to live like rats in the squalor that we helped create?” The spirit of being total pr-cks is something we are catching from the Israelis.
We’ve become total pricks all by our lonesome. We dropped the bomb. There are no bigger pricks than that. Thumbs up to the rest of your comment.
But we used to have at least the pretense of bring a good Christian people, and did not engage in in-your-face nastiness. This is now a new normal.
When? And I literally hate the “good Christian people” description. As if being a Christian is an automatic qualifier for being good. Similar to “Christian values”.
We dropped two. I guess that makes us doubly pri*cks.
My dad was happy they dropped the bomb. Many Marines were.
I guess they believed the propaganda that a ground invasion would be necessary otherwise. It’s still being repeated to this day except now the dropping of those bombs “saved” untold millions.
Ask the corpsmen on board ships what they were told. Take a look how the Japanese fought at Okinawa.
I would do that but if any of them are still alive they’re probably pushing 100. But your comment is nonsense for other reasons. There was no need for a ground invasion . Japan was willing to surrender and Russia was ready to get involved. Besides why is it that people say the Japanese would fight to the death but not if death was by an atomic bomb?
Russia acted against Japan only after japan was essentially defeated. The use of nukes had an overwhelming intimidating effect.
And Japan was essentially defeated before the bombs were dropped. And the intimidation was aimed at Stalin. So they were political and weren’t necessary militarily.
It was a terrible war against a ruthless enemy.Japan raped Korea,Manchuria, Nanking ect.They attacked Pearl Harbor ect ect ect .It is very easy to be liberal with someone elses blood.
And we fire bombed Tokyo. What’s your point? None of that justifies dropping two atomic bombs on largely civilian population centers. But it’s easy to be a cheerleader for incinerating two cities if you’re exceptional or chosen.
If you had been a soldier waiting to invade Japan, you would have been overjoyed that the war was over. Would you have risked life and limb to appease the intellectual ideology of someone 75 years later? You would have wanted to go home. Your loved ones wanted you home in one piece.It was the warmongers and Japanese militarists that murdered more moderate political leaders in Japan, that are to blame, not some woke PC mucus about “exceptionalism,” and by the way,what are you implying about “chosen” ?”
And your basing everything on the bombs being necessary and the ONLY way there would be no need for an invasion which is bullsh*t. Ask MacArthur.
No implication with the “chosen”. A flat out accusation is more like it. Meaning the people of the US, exceptional, and the people of Israel, “chosen” seem to think killing is their right.
“If you had been a soldier waiting to invade Japan”
We don’t have to play “if” games. There were quite a few soldiers waiting to invade Japan, and their attitudes toward the Hiroshima and Nagasaki terror attacks were mixed, not uniform.
At least he’s being honest; no sickening humanitarian hubris or Russia-baiting.
Democratic liberals are as fascist as their Republican conservative peers and now appear willing to express their violence against civil society without inhibition, at least in regards to demeaned regimes like Assad’s.
Moshe Dayan said the the Palestinians would “live like dogs”. He also said (in 1967) that if Israel was still an occupier ten years into the future, it would be the end of the Israeli ideal.
Blinken said the US has not “changed our position to oppose the reconstruction of Syria until there is irreversible progress toward a political solution.”
But there is a solution. US-backed Wahabbi terror gangs will not be allowed, under any circumstances, to retain control of territory in the long term, and will not be involved in the nations governing structures in any way, shape, or form.
Maybe Blinken hasn’t read the memo? Or maybe he is just too stupid to get it…
The Syrian-Russian advance has been stalled out for months. Blinken knows what he’s doing.
Had Trump not wussed out on his order to pull out of Syria, things might be different.
However, Trump would have had to call out a high mutiny by the top brass, with no political support at all from either the Dems or Reps.
do not reconstruct Syria, so sayeth the israeLIES and congress complies! because the israeLIES own congress!
The arrogance of the USA and its cruelty even when its interference is unsuccessful remain unchanged. Nobody expects you to help, but the stop any reconstruction is low life behavior.
Geopolitics; China was touted as the main reconstructor of Syria, and they would have succeeded with Russian help.
This would have fully conceded Syria to the Eurasians.
For now, all NATO can do is troll and squat the strategic space. They won’t let America pull out of another Europe-First war.
Thank God almighty for China. Its investments will change Syria
Denying reconstruction is a shot at China; the Chiniese are widely expected to primarily provide the money and materiale to rebuild Syria.
Operating under Russian protection, with indigenous Syrian support, Syria could quickly be built back better for real, but also a real economic threat to NATO Europe and Israel.
And, in Afghanistan……………..
More flawed Policy from Washington. I was a little hopeful Biden might move to stabilize the region but I guess not.
NATO Europe and Europe Firsters in America are not letting Biden drop another war for them.
They need Syria down for as long as possible, holding out for some break in the stalemate in their favour.
At the very least, Putin is forced to extend the Russian mission, at monetary and some political cost.
Oh dear, Pat… did you not know that demented Joe is owned lock stock and barrel by the Zionazis and will bend over for them every time they (incorrectly) screech “terrorist”?
Well, better late than never that you learned…
Shades of Joseph Kennedy and “father”
Coughlin
Supporters of Democratic liberals should abandon all hope for a humanitarian foreign policy.
Its the heyday of Hitler.
The US has no say in Syria except in Syria Kurdistan to protect the oil stolen from Syria, LOL!! No one cares whether the US supports Assad or the Syrian people. Once this war is over, the Russians and the Chinese will reconstruct Syria. Syria will sign defense agreements with Russia, China, Iraq and Iran. The Saudis will then realize a giant military crescent has morphed on its borders and will play ball. Idlib will fall to Assad’s forces soon. The so called SDF will back off into Turkey and will be used in Turkish operations on Northern Syria vs the Kurds. The end game is the Kurds, whether they will keep this charade of independence or get back to the table and re-incorporate into Syria. Turkey will NEVER allow an independent Kurdish state on its borders.
You’ve locked onto it; WHEN this war is over.
If the war is never over, Syria can’t reconstruct and be a bother to NATO Europe and Israel.
Once again, “We don’t like your leader, so we’ll starve and displace your population, who have no say in the matter. Especially your children”.
How many times has Amerikkka played this murderous game around the world?
Who the fuck does Amerikkka think it is that it can determine who lives and who dies?
A description of the Clinton-Albright sanctions policy now widely used against all of America’s targets.
We’ve been doing similar things for a hundred years.
Manifest Destiny…………….ethnic cleansing of Native Americans and Mexicans. “One Nation, under G-d, with Justice for All…………..except for those who are not like “us”.
Should not condemn goodness because of those who later use it for evil purposes or simply don’t care like a hypocrite. That little ship called the Mayflower came to America with good intentions. The founders who drafted the Constitution and Bill of Rights did it for a good reason. But of course the Thangs aka Itts aka evil people who also exist in the world began to ruin it.
Very hard to see what is driving the US policy. 1. Assad? He has never done anything against the US nor Israel. He rules Syria with the democratic support of Syrians. 2. Russia? maybe the US is somehow offended by the Russian footprint in Syria, which dates back decades. 3. Israel? Israel has no fear of Syria, from whom they simply stole the Golan heights. 4. Revenge for the failure of the US regime change mission? Hmmm. That seems to most plausible. One has to ask what kind of person Blinken is to blandly carry out the dirty job of cruelty against the Syrian people. And it brings into focus a lot of cowardice on the part of those who sit by and say nothing, including NATO partners.
It’s because of Israel. Syria out of US/Israeli control allows a land route to resupply Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, the only Israeli neighbor who can fight back. That’s primarily what it’s all about.
yes, indeed. thank you. Same holds for Iraq in fact.
EVERYTHING determining Amerikkka’s Middle East policies is because of Isra-hell.
Hezbollah is not about fighting back,it is about firing missiles against civilians
Get real. They kicked the IDF out of. Lebanon.
Unfortunately, there will be many more battles.My description of Hezbollah is still correct.
Syria is not specifically and directly aligned with US/Israeli interests. Non-aligned nations are viewed as national security threats and they suffer accordingly.
Once again: the United States objects to the reconstruction of Syria because Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Saudi Arabia objects to the fact that Syria is not a wahabbi tyranny.
Israel objects to the fact that Syria exists.
We don’t care. Military Industrial Complex, now and forever (cue the music)……………………..money to the MIC, from the MIC to members of Congress, money to MIC, from the MIC to members of Congress……ad infinitum.
(See my earlier comments.)
I am quite bemused–if not disappointed–to see the negative indices to my earlier comments on this post, as well as to the few who agreed with me in re the US government’s obviously lethal warfare on its citizenry, by means of mis-named vaccines. The “mandates” are unimpeachable evidence of a declaration and prosecution of war on American citizens by their government. Is this site not named “antiwar.com”? Thus far, I have read nothing earlier than unsupported disagreement, or simply-posted thumbs-downs. Where is any reasoned refutation? Bring it on, please, if you can.
I’m against vaccine mandates. I just thought “domestic genocide” was bullsh*t.
I guess that’s what passes as “reasoned refutation”, from you at least.
I guess I would have been more “reasoned” if you would have a least provided some data to prove your claim of “domestic genocide”. If you want to throw a term like that around, what do you expect?
See my latest response, just above, to m&m. Check VAERS data. If you want the last word then, it’s all yours.
Even if it’s accurate, VAERS data tells us nothing about how many people have died from the vaccine.
Only because VAERS reports are voluntary (even though “required”) and anecdotal. Which strongly suggests that the numbers (injuries and deaths) are far higher. It’s similar to letters to the editor. There may be only one letter published, but it’s a reasonable inference that 100 or more people share the same opinion.
Thomas, I believe you and I have dueled before on this site. I respect your perspicacity and intelligence, even when we disagree. Take my word, if you wish, that I have researched and read far beyond VAERS, both in number and depth of sources. Life is too short for me to footnote/link and verify them in blog comments. If I could monetize that task, I would take the time.
All the best to you.
On the one hand, the VAERS report numbers are probably low for adverse events after the vaccination.
On the other hand, an adverse event after the vaccination is not the same thing as an adverse event because of the vaccination. VAERS tells us zero, zip, zilch, nada, bupkes about the latter.
I know at least a hundred people (probably several times that) who’ve been vaccinated. I know of precisely one who has died who may have been vaccinated — and she was in the middle of chemo and radiation for her nth bout with cancer, with it not looking good, before she got vaccinated (if she did). The worst adverse events I’ve heard of from friends have been a little injection site soreness and a day or two of fatigue.
I may have had a worse adverse reaction than that — I developed De Quervain’s tenosynovitis in my right hand after the first shot, it got worse after the second, then it eventually went away. But the vaccine was not one of those that has received an EUA in the US (I’m a clinical trial volunteer for the Novavax product). I don’t know if it’s related or not. I’ll be interested to see if it comes back when I get the booster next month.
I keep looking for any evidence of widespread adverse events associated with the Pfizer-Moderna vaccine. I’ll be interested to see if any shows up. But so far all I’ve seen have been big claims based on very limited data (VAERS) that, even if accurate, says nothing about causality.
OK: “Correlation does not equal causation.”
Massive correlation… you gotta wonder. Well, I do, anyway. Maybe not you, Thomas. I’m done here. Take the last word, if you will.
“Massive correlation… you gotta wonder.”
Well, yes. I gotta wonder where the evidence of the “massive correlation” is. You’re not the first person I’ve run into who makes the claim, then has all kinds of excuses for not wanting to “footnote/link and verify” any evidence for it.
I’ve done a bit of research myself, and haven’t been able to find the evidence that you won’t “footnote/link and verify.”
It’s not that I don’t want to believe in the “massive correlation.”
It’s that I’m not in the habit of believing what I want to believe just because it happens to be what I want to believe.
I could look up any data you provide and it won’t equal a “domestic genocide”. I know a 69 year old woman who was in excellent health who died of COVID before the vaccinations were available. And someone I worked with for 20 years , who wasn’t in good health, was laid up for months and had to go through physical therapy because his muscles had atrophied so much. He still can’t breathe right. Of all the people I know who got vaccinated there were nothing more than sore arms and some short term sickness. If there is an ongoing domestic genocide it has somehow avoided arriving where I live as of yet or anywhere near me.
“If there is an ongoing domestic genocide it has somehow avoided arriving where I live as of yet or anywhere near me.”
You just articulated your own tunnel vision.
I would expect more deaths during a genocidal happening. I’ll leave it at that.
Can anyone find a more obvious embarrassment than blink reading from a script prepared by israel.
Sorry, I mis-spoke. These zionists are incapable of embarrassment: key characteristics of psychopaths.
Just like the ukranians who assisted the Germans at BaBi YAR.
This entire US orchestrated war is a crime against humanity. That the US was allied to ISIS and Al Nusta here is beyond shameful. Prosecute US war criminals.