“Only one thing to it: a strong stomach. The guts to gladhand a man you’re going to stab in the back; pledge allegiance to principles you stomp on every day; righteously denounce some despot in the press and sell him arms under the table. The talent to whip up the voters’ worst passions while you seem to call on their highest instincts, and the sense to stay wrapped in the flag. That’s politics: I’ll take the simple life.” – Beaumarchais, The Marriage of Figaro
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky recently granted a lengthy interview to the French newspaper Le Figaro, in which he lobbies for his country to be taken into NATO and the European Union, fulsomely fawns over French President Emmanuel Macron (they have a special affinity; they both like the theater – but apparently not Beaumarchais) and offers him commiseration and common cause with, in what appears to be a reference to last year’s strikes over pension changes and perhaps also to the Yellow Vest protest movement, the words “I do not know one hundred percent whether Russia was involved in these conflicts, strikes in France, or not.” The last comment was printed in one of France’s leading newspapers.
He dwelt, as would be expected, on the status of the republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in the Donbass and Crimea, which he referred to as occupied territories. (That is the translation of his words on his presidential website.)
Russia, of course, is the implied or explicit occupier in all three instances. He additionally compares the three to what for decades have been referred to as the frozen conflicts in the former Soviet Union: Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh and Transdniester. (He neglected to add South Ossetia; mere oversight no doubt.)
Wars have been fought in and against those four republics, most recently the Turkish-supported attack by Azerbaijan against Nagorno-Karabakh last year. To suggest that he wouldn’t be averse to seeing Turkey reprise that role, he praised Turkish-Ukrainian cooperation which includes a joint approach to “the issue of Crimean Tatars or Crimeans who were deprived of their home and left after the occupation.” He also said, ” For me, Crimea and Donbas have never left, these are definitely our territories.” They, like Nagorno-Karabakh and Crimean Tatars, will have to be “liberated.” By force of arms.
By way of comparison with examples preceding the division in Ukraine he said that “in the territories where there is occupation” – he mentioned Abkhazia and Transniester – there are no skyscrapers (“like in Hong Kong”), no scientific breakthrough, no cool (his word) businesses and no happiness. No happiness. Transdniester has a population of 469,000 people and Abkhazia of 245,000. And they have no skyscrapers. No Disney Worlds. No Microsoft and Amazon and other cool businesses. No happiness. The fact that the U.S. and the EU don’t recognize their existence and cut them off from all connection with the outside world except for Russia in Zelensky’s mind would have nothing to do with why there are no Eiffel Towers or Trump Towers in Tiraspol and Sukhumi.
In referring to Abkhazia and Transdniester as occupied territories he again implies that Russia is the occupation force as it has a small contingent of peacekeepers in Transdniester and has reinforced troops in Abkhazia after the Georgia-Russia war of 2008. Transdniester is squeezed between Ukraine and Moldova; perhaps Zelensky intends to “liberate” it as he does Crimea with Turkish assistance.
He said that if the Donbass and Crimea share the fate of those others, they will be “dead” territory. “It will be worse than Chernobyl. Because there are tourists even in Chernobyl. And these will be just ‘dead’ regions, unfortunately.”
When asked about the proposed Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline, he transformed that as he does most everything into a casus belli: “Nord Stream is another blow, an energy one. Modern wars are called that way. Hybrid wars. This is an information war, an energy war. The same with gas, the food war. We know how countries are blocked and they do not receive food. Similarly, there is a vaccine war, when there is no supply of vaccines to a country, and you are blackmailed. This is a hybrid war.
“So what’s the difference which troops are fighting against you? Remember, this (Nord Stream – ed.) is not a business issue. Business of Europe and Russia. No, it’s a matter of war.”
“I made clear that firms engaged in pipeline construction risk U.S. sanctions. The pipeline divides Europe, it exposes Ukraine and central Europe to Russian manipulation and coercion, it goes against Europe’s own stated energy goals.”
In Zelensky’s Le Figaro interview he connected the war for energy with the war over “occupied territories” with these stark words:
“If the Nord Stream 2 is completed, not only Ukraine will lose. This is a precedent, it means that it is allowed. And this is the same as with our occupied territories. If people recognize and get used to it, live with it, then it means this is allowed. Starting from Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Transnistria, and now Crimea, Donbas…..Crimea and Donbas would not be the case if the world had said ‘it is not allowed’ back then.”
Western governments and the Western news media are providing an oversimplified if not entirely inaccurate narrative about what’s involved in Ukraine’s campaign to pit the West against Russia. The Western public may want to read Zelensky’s own words.
Rick Rozoff has been involved in anti-war and anti-interventionist work in various capacities for forty years. He lives in Chicago, Illinois. He is the manager of Stop NATO. This originally appeared at Anti-Bellum.
Let Hunter Biden go fight it. Isn’t he Ukrainian?
And that Canadastani woman.
The ruskies will knock his false teeth out.
Northstream 2:
So what he is saying is that if they are not able to blackmail central and Eastern Europe they will attack Russia and hope Biden and NATO will risk nuclear war for his ‘right’ to exclusively deliver gas?
You nailed it! Very disappointing to hear from Z. I had a little bit of hope for him that he managed to totally extinguish.
right. since the nord stream 2 by-passes ukraine, they will not be able to high-jack gas shipments from russia to europe.
Doubtless Zelenski’s words were authorized (if not written) by Sluuivan & Blinken. The US is staking a lot on stopping Nord Stream 2. And tho said to Macron, it’s meant for Germany. Will they crumble, having come to far and so long??
Things were better for the Ukrainian oligarchs when they transported all the nice Russian petroleum to the Germans.
“…when there is no supply of vaccines to a country, and you are blackmailed…”
That’s rich seeing that the Ukranazi coup regime itself refused the Russian Sputnik V vaccine.
Isn’t NATO wonderful? I just feel so much safer knowing we are soon to be backing up the territorial integrity of such well run nations as Ukraine, don’t you?
Gives me the chills and makes me want to vomit.
Russian forces on the banks of the Dniepr, north to south in 72 hours.
Seriously, do you think it would take that long?
“Crimea and Donbas would not be the case if the world had said ‘it is not allowed’ back then.”
True. But it was the coup orchestrated by the US that the world should have said “it is not allowed” back then.
No one is aking what they did wit Ukrainian Gold.
I doubt Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky and the US President Joe Biden fully appreciate how close they came last week to igniting a regional conflict that may have included mass casualties in Ukraine and the loss of US military naval and ground forces.
I don’t anticipate the Russian troops moving from the border for quite some time. So many targets to assess.
If Joe Biden intends to project a modus vivendi between Russia and NATO, a summit meeting might be realistic if the precursor that guarantees it occurring involves removing troops and missile batteries from Latvia, Lithuaina, and Estonia. Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan require imminent discussion.
Since that’s unlikely to occur, so goes the summit.
As an aside, it might be easy to assume the three countries may request citizenship back in Russia’s orbit when the global economic collapse becomes quite devastating. I think Russia would pass on absorbing orphan countries with minimal portfolio.
“And they have no skyscrapers. No Disney Worlds. No Microsoft and Amazon and other cool businesses. No happiness”
He’s referring to worldly matters. No real social human perception, just worldly is what he cares about. That is the reason why man is in a downfall. He cars only about material things.
I think it’s central the struggle with Russia for whom it will supply a nice income stream to obviate all of Washington’s sanctions, and tend to normalize friendly relations between Russia and EU. Secondly, it forces Germany (EU is really “United States of Germany”) to chose sides, NATO or not.
The coming damage to Ukraine is the Nord Stream 2, which will impact the flow of money and gas to and through Ukraine. The Nord Stream 2 controversy is really mostly about subsidizing Ukraine’s conflict with Russia.
I doubt Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky and the US President Joe Biden fully appreciate how close they came last week to igniting a regional conflict that may have included mass casualties in Ukraine and the loss of US military naval and ground forces.
I don’t anticipate the Russian troops moving from the border for quite some time. So many targets to assess.
If Joe Biden intends to project a modus vivendi between Russia and NATO, a summit meeting might be realistic if the precursor that guarantees it occurring involves removing troops and missile batteries from Latvia, Lithuaina, and Estonia. Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan require imminent discussion.
Since that’s unlikely to occur, so goes the summit.
As an aside, it might be easy to assume the three countries may request citizenship back in Russia’s orbit when the global economic collapse becomes quite devastating. I think Russia would pass on absorbing orphan countries with minimal portfolio.
Zelensky sounds unhinged with reality, Nord Stream II is really nothing more than clever Capitalism.
Poor Zelensky has been co-opted by the idiots who run Ukraine for Washington. The Ukrainian neo-nazis, oligarchs, George Soros, the Biden crime family, and the CIA are no friends of the Ukrainians. Washington is Russia’s mortal enemy. Washington doesn’t understand that the Cold War ended in 1991. Washington is the one who wants a dangerous unpleasant world. Washington is the enemy of mankind. Talk about the Evil Empire, Ronnie!
So the truth comes out. It is again about oil and gas, the two deadly horsemen of today.
“If the Nord Stream 2 is completed, not only Ukraine will lose. This is a precedent, it means that it is allowed.” It’s not allowed for two willing customers to build a pipeline between each other? WTF is that? And the Le Figaro “journalists” didn’t call him on it? They suck.
Ukraine has a God given right to control ALL of Russia’s natural gas exports.
It is an act of war to allow Russia to export NG directly to China. Russia must be forced to transit it’s gas through Ukraine, to a NATO port to be converted to LNG and shipped through several U.S. controlled choke points before it reaches China. Anything less than that is Russia threatening the world; say’s the toddler.
Ukraine and Poland should exercise their freedom to source their oil and gas purchases from wherever even the US. They are under no obligation to buy from Russia.