Reports Citing Intelligence on Iran Weapons Program Lack Credibility
These reports crop up using flimsy evidence from sketchy sources, but US intelligence still says Iran has no weapons program
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on Tuesday that new intelligence information indicates “Iran has made greater progress on developing components for its nuclear weapons program than the West had previously realized,” although it offered almost no evidence for this anonymous claim.
Using “Western diplomats and Israeli officials” as sources, Haaretz reports “the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Israel agree” that Iran has a more advanced weapons program than previously thought. In truth, there is no “new intelligence” Haaretz can point to.
The report says the new assessment arose after “Iran refused to allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to visit the base at Parchin” and satellite photographs released by an American think tank called the Institute for Science and International Security allegedly show an attempt to “clean-up” the site.
These are old accusations that have already been discounted. Similarly anonymous sources – from Israel and some other unnamed country or countries – were published in the press months ago.
As Inter-Press Service’s Gareth Porter reported in March, the photographs lack credibility, were unconvincing to at least four of six diplomatic sources sought out by the Associated Press, and were not conducive to US intelligence.
The current US assessment, according to the most recent National Intelligence Estimate, is that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and has not restarted it.
Haaretz‘s other piece of “evidence” of this supposedly new intelligence showing Iran’s weaponization activities comes from none other than the Iranian dissident group Mujahideen al-Khalq (MEK), which has precisely zero credibility and is officially considered a terrorist organization by the US State Department.
“Members of the group told [Britain's Daily Telegraph] that the work of the Iranian scientists in the ‘weapons group’ is at an advanced facility involved warheads and detonators,” Haaretz reports, offering no evidence beyond the hearsay from an unscrupulous terrorist group which has openly advocated the overthrow of the Iranian government.
Just four days before this Haaretz report was published, the Los Angeles Times reported that experts see “no imminent threat of a nuclear armed Iran,” contrary to hyperbolic rhetoric and threats of preemptive attack from the US and Israel.
“This is a window that has been closing for 15 years now, and it’s always imminently about to close,” Jamal Abdi, policy director for the National Iranian American Council told the Los Angeles Times.
“I don’t see any particular breakthroughs in the Iranian program,” says Gaukhar Mukhatzhanova, a nonproliferation scholar at the Monterey Institute of International Studies. “It’s been on a pretty steady course,” and “there is technically no urgency to” prepare for an attack on Iran.
“According to the U.S. intelligence community, the Iranian leadership hasn’t even made the decision to weaponize their program,” said Alireza Nader, senior policy analyst on Iran for Rand Corp. “They’ve been creating the technical know-how and the infrastructure, but they haven’t made that decision, and there is much more time than the Israelis portray there to be.”
In February the New York Times ran a front page story entitled “U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb.” It reported: “Recent assessments by American spy agencies are broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program years earlier. The officials said that assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies.”
Again in March, they reported “top administration officials have said that Iran still has not decided to pursue a weapon, reflecting the intelligence community’s secret analysis.” Another in the Los Angeles Times was similarly headlined, “U.S. does not believe Iran is trying to build nuclear bomb.”
Reports like Haaretz’s occasionally crop up using flimsy evidence – if any at all – from sketchy sources to create the impression that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, which it does not, and that Western officials believe this, which they do not.
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JDonald
August 7th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
You can be sure that Israel will ply the media with disinformation (normal people call them lies) when it comes to any surrounding country obtaining scientific advances that will could bring them into the modern world. As long as all countries within a 1000 mile radius of Israel a maintained as primitive, Israel's thinks its safety is assured.
aeskylosa
August 8th, 2012 at 1:22 am
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on Tuesday that new intelligence information indicates “Iran has made greater progress on developing components for its nuclear weapons program than the West had previously realized,” although it offered almost no evidence for this anonymous claim.
Note- no evidence.
curmudgeonvt
August 8th, 2012 at 3:22 am
It's funny (not) how after statements like these from Haaretz the "correction" or "clarification" of misstatements (lies) never seems to make it to the front page where people might just see it. Can't have the populace hearing the truth now – counterproductive to what the government wants to do.
Popsiq
August 8th, 2012 at 5:34 am
The 'Mystikal 8-Ball' strikes again.
WTE
August 8th, 2012 at 8:57 am
Its funny how the sheeple will believe israel even though they never offer any proof.
pendulum
August 8th, 2012 at 9:07 am
intelligence from dummies believed by illiterate and bigoted
Roger
August 8th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Not really, they know how muslims claim all sorts of things, al taqiyya.
Wolfgang9
August 8th, 2012 at 11:31 am
Maybe the German secret service found another phony "Curvball" agent who claims to know everything but tells only if he gets poliical asylum with lifetime pension. They just need another Powell in the Obama administration – shouldn't be so difficult for AIPAC to seed one.
WTE
August 8th, 2012 at 11:44 am
You have not shown any proof?
Do you have something? If not I would advise you to shut that trap of yours before I make you look like a fool again.
Roger
August 8th, 2012 at 11:46 am
And have you? Do you have anything? If not I would advise you to realize you're the comic relief muslim style. You just keep on typing away from your work terminal struggling to make your daily quota. I'd lay off the little flasks though, you know they do have meetings that can help you with that.
deliaruhe
August 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Look: how else are they gonna get regime change unless through the Israeli Department of Propaganda? Relatively few people realize that what these brutal sanctions are meant to achieve is Iran "voluntarily" giving up its right under international law and the NPT to enrich uranium.
If anyone, anywhere tried to rob the US of even the least important of its rights, it would be considered an act of war. But Iran is fighting a losing battle here. Up against the two biggest military extremists on the planet, it will not be allowed the right enjoyed by every other state.
Jeremy
August 8th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Remember, the same sort of propaganda in 2002 led to the Iraq War. The result was that we found no WMD's. And that this sort of propaganda killed more Americans than OBL did on 9-11. (4500 to 3000).
Remember when you read this that people will die because of it
Roger
August 8th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Israel has a beatdown coming like no other. It is unfortunate that innocent civilians will be made to pay instead of the terrorists like Bibi, and Barak. Israel's next war will be its last..period.
Shawn
August 8th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Was it not the Nazis who would manufacture "evidence" so they could justify their invasion of other countires? It is really amazing how much Israel has become like its own boogieman, the Nazi's . . . The Nazi's were all about acquiring "lebensraum", and that is exactly what Israel is all about. They do not want to build up, they want to build out, and do so at every opportunity they can get. Pretty soon they will be tearing down their own walls so they can move them out more. Now they want to use more Nazi tactics to justify a war with Iran.
wars r u.s.
August 8th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
So roger, do you otherwise post here or do you just follow one person around? It's automatic, if I see a post from WTE roger is sure to follow. Nothing of substance ever.
(safeinoz)
August 8th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Ah, Roger,Roger,Roger…..when will people like you ever learn ?
For over 30 years now Iran has been just a 'few years, months' from perfecting nuclear missiles, bombs etc. According to 'right wing media in Israel and the US and Britain and so on.
If you want to contribute to a topic, please research it just a little bit to avoid sounding like a complete moron. 'Just say'n
Aarky
August 8th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
It's a real disappointment that this set of lies comes from Haaretz. Over the years it has been the one to poke holes in the Likkudniks lies. We could expect it to come from AIPAC, WINEP, or a number of other Israeli prpaganda groups in the US and the Jeruselem Post in Israel. A real disappointment, especially when it was so easy to poke holes in Haaretz's lies.
(safeinoz)
August 8th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Jeremy….led to the Iraq 'Invasion' mate. Not ever a war!
WTE
August 9th, 2012 at 4:07 am
I know he is my personal little stalker. I t would be nice to have a debate without him around
WTE
August 9th, 2012 at 4:08 am
I know, and no evidence is ever produced. Israel wants world domination.
AbZM
August 9th, 2012 at 6:07 am
It seems that the US Presidential election is a curse on the Earth that happens every 4 years. The main parasite taking advantage are the Israelis.
Roger
August 9th, 2012 at 6:27 am
I thought they've been on the verge for a couple thousand years?
If you want to make things up, reach for more!
Roger
August 9th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Survival, they want survival.
Roger
August 9th, 2012 at 6:28 am
I post comments where I have something to say. Too bad you didn't.
Roger
August 9th, 2012 at 6:28 am
And you are the 'wee' little man. The tiny little thing that goes around calling for jihad and advocating violence.
Roger
August 9th, 2012 at 6:29 am
The IDF will take care of that.
Did Barak Leak New US Intel on Iran’s Nuclear Program? « Antiwar.com Blog
August 9th, 2012 at 9:28 am
[...] in the week I debunked a new report from Haaretz making these same claims, but naming no names. See here for why the new rumors lack any [...]
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 4:01 am
Then maybe they should stop wanting war. They never offer any evidence to back up allegations they make.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 4:02 am
No you post comments when I tell you to
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 4:03 am
And you're the tiny little pretend christian who hates and stalks all those who disagree you.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Did Schalitt beg to be kidnapped for all those years?
You have the talking points down for an aggressive muslim.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 6:34 am
And you breath when I command it.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 6:35 am
Really? Says the guy who declares jihad at rumors and advocates violence.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 6:48 am
You have not shown that. I can show that you reply when I tell you though.
Reply Monkey Roger
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 6:52 am
You have all the talking points down for an aggressive christain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_moE8BMFR0
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 6:52 am
Yep. Really
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:02 am
And how does admitting you advocate violence and call for jihad at the merest rumor give you any credibility?
Hahahahaha…….
Oh wee, you small little tiny man.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:02 am
Breathe, I command it!
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Christians aren't allowed to defend themselves against unwarranted attacks? You silly muslims want to just surah 9 a bunch of willing victims, is that it?
If you want an aggressive religion then read this. http://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-nuclear-progra…
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:07 am
I did not admit that , what I did admit is you're the tiny little pretend christian who hates and stalks all those who disagree you.
Don't twist my words
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:08 am
No.
Thanks for replying when I tell you to. I bet I can do it again.
Reply Monkey Roger
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Where was the unwarranted attack in the video I posted?
Face it Israel wants WWIII and wil lie and create bloodshed until it achieves it. Only the sheeple believe them.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Face it, Israel gets no peace for the land it has given up.
How many kassams do you overlook in order to blame Israel?
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:11 am
Good, you follow my commands and breathe.
Keep breathing I command it!
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:11 am
You said what you said. Don't blame your stupid on me.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:13 am
Really? An israeli newspaper? Would you believe this?
http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?optio…
Of course not. It's all about using non-biased sources monkey
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:13 am
I know what I said and you twisted it.
Pot meet kettle
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:15 am
This is not working out to well for you huh?
I just said "no" Do you understand what that means?
I can show you are my trained monkey.
Reply trained monkey roger
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:19 am
How many of their human rights violations do you overlook?
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=4190…
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Can you say that it's wrong?
You just can't and attack the one who had the guts to report it.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:21 am
How many muslim human rights violations do you excuse?
Every single one.
Even the kidnapping of Schalit. It, and the way he was held was against Geneva conventions and you defend it.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:21 am
Breathe I command it!
You have no choice in this, it's a demand I throw at your face like an old dirty shoe!
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:22 am
Nope. You can't make me.
I can make you reply though monkey.
Reply trained monkey roger
Do as you are told.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Let me quote you, you silly old kettle.
I said "Really? Says the guy who declares jihad at rumors and advocates violence."
And you willingly said:
"Yep. Really"
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I don't excuse any of them. Quote me. Where did I defend that? Quote me. You are a liar.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:24 am
I can force you to breathe!
I command it and demand that if your refuse to breathe you will suffer the wrath! You will have a red face and pass out!
My will cannot be refused!
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:25 am
You don't even remember your own talking points you small little man?
So 'wee' of you.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:28 am
When you use the word "allegedly" that means they have no evidence. Did you even bother to read the story?
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:31 am
So now you are trying to play god?
Again breathing is an involuntary action.
Making you reply to me is voluntary on your part.
Still not working out for you huh?
Reply now monkey roger
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:32 am
That's what I thought. You can't back up your accusations you said about me.
You are exposed as a liar.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:35 am
And you can't show they are wrong.
So my comment really is more credible than your attempts to refute it.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:36 am
Excuse me mr "Lock them in a church and burn them…".
You just 50 minutes ago said this about the kidnap of Schalit and his being held against geneva conventions and not up to red cross standards.
50 minutes ago @ News From Antiwar.com – Despite Israeli 'Leak'… · 1 reply · 0 points
"Thats what happens when israel provokes them and makes false allegations."
You small little man, you were just owned again. You make this easy.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:37 am
And so you admit I'm using facts and my demands and commands are reasonable.
You small little man. Now, bow to my authority and breathe!
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 7:38 am
I quoted your words, and the comment that had you say them.
If you didn't say what you wanted to say then delete the comment. But don't blame me for your stupid.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:43 am
I just told you what I meant. If you don't understand and it is clear you don't maybe it's time for you to leave
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Quote me. You are trying to play god. You are so arrogant you think you are the christian god.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:50 am
You're done. You never mentioned Schalit in the other story. You mentioned him on this thread. You are a liar. That comment was made because you said this:
Roger 166p · 1 hour ago
And it's neighbors seem pretty intent on killing Israel.
Busted you lying POS. I have you now. You are so far out of touch with reality you can't even keep stories straight. YOu just showed how you twist peoples words to suit your agenda.
I have you now.
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/08/09/despite-israel…
Whole different thread. Schalit was only mentioned in this story.
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 7:52 am
Ok, I can say roger my trained monkey allegedly has sex with children.
You can't show I'm wrong
So my comment really is more credible than your attempts to refute it.
I am beating you up today monkey. You should reply
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:02 am
Next thing you know they will be setting up gas chambers and calling them showers
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Strange, that's what iranians say about the shoah in ww2.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:10 am
The old Harry Reid gambit?
When I said I was going to make sure your goats were only used for milking instead of sex objects you sure got mad.
So, if you want to play that game then let's do it.
Hey Wee, you small little man, are you back with your goats again?
Roger 165p � 1 hour ago
I stole some of you sex toys and sold them as regular milk goats.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Wanting you to breathe isn't reasonable?
You sit behind your work terminal in your regular shift, small flask at the ready and you pretend you won't bow to the command and breathe?
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:11 am
Then that's what you should have said.
Maybe it's time for you to learn better english. What an iranian friendly troll you are, what university in Tehran did you learn English at anyhow?
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:12 am
You don't command anything.
I can I show I command you and you listen.
Reply monkey roger
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:13 am
What is your obession with having sex with animals and stealing?
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Where is your evidence?
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:14 am
What's your obsession about children and sex?
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:15 am
I see you won't reply to this one. You have been exposed as a liar
WTE
August 10th, 2012 at 8:17 am
That is what I did say. 3 times. Anyways game over for you today.
I tell you when the game is over for the day and nothing you say will change that.
You have been beaten enough for one day. I'll give you a break.
You will reply to this comment though roger monkey.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Of course you haven't exposed me as anything. You sound upset, shouldn't you take a nice long pull off the flask, just to steady your nerves?
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:18 am
And are you saying Schalitt isn't a good example of muslim militant conduct?
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:19 am
I command you to keep breathing, or you will suffer the consequences!
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:20 am
No, you didn't.
I said this:"Really? Says the guy who declares jihad at rumors and advocates violence."
And you responded with this:
"Yep. Really"
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 8:21 am
How many links do you want?
http://pjmedia.com/blog/irans-holocaust-cartoons-…
patriothere
August 10th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Did all those palestinians beg to be murdered by Baruch Goldstein?
patriothere
August 10th, 2012 at 9:42 am
the bandit state gets no peace until the palestinians do.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 10:18 am
I don't know, ask Schalitt who is the cold blooded bunch.
patriothere
August 10th, 2012 at 10:28 am
You can't ask all those dead palestinians. Because they're dead.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Did they blow each other up again? Hamas just can't get along with anyone.
Roger
August 10th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
That would have been 1948. What happened? Oh, the violent religion decided that peace wasn't something they values.
WTE
August 14th, 2012 at 4:28 am
Where are they talkinag about the shoah in WW2?
WTE
August 14th, 2012 at 4:28 am
projecting again roger
WTE
August 14th, 2012 at 4:29 am
I did. You lied and I proved it
WTE
August 14th, 2012 at 4:59 am
You don't understand English very well huh?
Roger
August 14th, 2012 at 6:36 am
You tie sex with anger in your mind?
That's not a good sign.
Roger
August 14th, 2012 at 6:36 am
You took a long pull off your little flask? There are meetings for that you know.
Small little 'wee' man.
Roger
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
I do, too bad you can't keep up. What dialect of 'hate' are you trained in?
Roger
August 14th, 2012 at 6:38 am
Where can you show that Iran admits there was ever a shoah?