No Direct Evidence of Iranian Government Complicity in Plot
The Obama administration continues to claim the Iranian government helped orchestrate the plot, while admitting evidence is lacking
United States officials in the Obama administration and Justice Department have explicitly claimed that Iran’s supreme leader and the Quds Force covert operations unit were likely aware of the so-called terror plot to kill Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States. But evidence of that is lacking and many officials have admitted there are gaps in their understanding of the plot.
The Obama administration has combatively blamed the highest echelons of the Iranian government and promised impending consequences, despite the fact that there is no solid information about “exactly how high it goes,” as one official put it.
Anonymous government officials speaking to various media outlets have said that their belief that Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “more than likely” had prior knowledge of the plot is based on inference. The Quds Force operates, they reason, in accordance and obedience to Iran’s supreme leadership, so a rogue actor is unlikely.
But unlikely describes the plot itself, as even US officials admit it was very out of character. The Quds Force has a history of shrewd covert operations and calculated dealings with proxies. “The Iranian modus operandi is only to trust sensitive plots to their own employees, or to trusted proxies,” wrote Kenneth Katzman of the Congressional Research Service on Gulf2000 on Wednesday.
And the accused perpetrator Manssor Arbabsiar and a Mexican drug gang don’t fit the protocol. “Are we to believe that this Texas car seller was a Qods sleeper agent for many years resident in the US? Ridiculous,” said Mr. Katzman. “They never ever use such has-beens or loosely connected people for sensitive plots such as this.”
“It’s a very strange case, it doesn’t really fit Iran’s mode of operation,” Alireza Nader, an Iran analyst at the Rand Corporation told the Christian Science Monitor. ”This [plot] doesn’t seem to serve Iran’s interests in any conceivable way,” he added.
Former CIA agent Robert Baer said the culpability of the Iranian leadership is not believable. “I don’t think it’s credible, not the central government, there may be a rogue element behind it,” Baer said in an interview. “They wouldn’t be sending money through an American bank, they wouldn’t be going to the cartels in Mexico to do this. It’s just not the way they work.”
Carrying out this kind of action, especially within the United States, would be against Iran’s interests, by most expert accounts. It entails a lot of risk of retaliation and potential suffering, and no discernible gain.
Another reason that top-level Iranian government coordination in this plot is unlikely is because the plot was developed for the most part by the FBI and the undercover DEA agent. Arbabsiar had originally planned to kidnap the Saudi ambassador, and only after meeting with the undercover agent did kidnapping turn into assassinating, and it was the undercover agent who first suggested using explosives.
That the leadership of the Iranian government would have foreknowledge of an assassination plot by a disgruntled Texas resident that was largely concocted by US law enforcement agents is very unlikely. Still, the Obama administration continues to blame the Ayatollah Khamenei and Iranian government for it, even as US officials admit they have no direct evidence for such a claim.
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carl
October 12th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
These guys are a laugh riot. They deserve nothing but ridicule. Too bad they have the power to inflict such misery on innocent people.
We need a pig roast in DC.
skulz fontaine
October 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
" But evidence of that is lacking and many officials have admitted there are gaps in their understanding of the plot."
And so, those referenced "gaps" would be the space between "official" ears. As in, there is no brain matter there. No none. Nonexistent. Nada. Zip.
It is rather insulting that the Obama freaks would presume the American people are stupid.
Andron
October 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
When has lack of evidence stopped the US Administration from making outrageous claims whn it comes to the middle east?
There is only ONE good nation there and that is Isreal. All other nations are cannon fodder for the MAD US Military and even MADDER Administration.
Wise up Arab Nations – UNITE OR PERISH.
MoT
October 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Another false flag by the FBI using convenient patsies. How many times have we already seen this?
ghouri
October 13th, 2011 at 2:10 am
FBI and CIA will continue with false allegations and will continue. For agencies to lie and decieve is part of game and have become killinmg organisations on false pretex.
FBI and CIA have become biggest killer agencies in the world.
God save the Muslims from notorius organisations and Media like CNN and BBC.
liveload
October 13th, 2011 at 2:25 am
I don't even know if disgruntled would be the word I'd use top describe the guy they've hung this on. Who knows what the real story is with him. One thing is for sure, whatever he had that passed for a life is now gone for good.
rybo1
October 13th, 2011 at 2:30 am
This is a dangerous time. It seems that the Obama admin. will do just about anything to increase his poor ratings in the run down to the next election. I never thought anyone could be as bad as Bush and Co., but Obama is giving Dubya a run for the money.
Jamal
October 13th, 2011 at 2:42 am
Reporting on poverty and other social issues from other country, calling this or that regime a dicatorial, blaming other for what has been the US and EU foriegn policies for years, calling their US-NATO wars a democratic wars, supporting the terrorist groups and etc. is a US and EU government orchestrated propaganda for saying that: is their fault when US and NATO are at war.., supporting a real and true dictators as Saudis and UAE is yet another way proving the fact that such democracy is a falsified concept and therefore the entire matters needs to be blamed on others.
John Ellis
October 13th, 2011 at 4:14 am
Latest spin by mainstream corporate media — Iran has delusions of grandeur thinking it caused the Arab Spring, and with such a god-ego has a series of terrorist attacks planned befitting it’s leadership role.
heathroi
October 13th, 2011 at 5:36 am
The "MO" is the usual from the US feds ie work on some disgruntled loser until he cooperates in some small way then its time to set up the flags on the stage for the muller and holder show.
JDonald
October 13th, 2011 at 6:55 am
So what's new? It's the American way. Target those that don't agree with your empire ambitions, vilify them publicly with the help of your complicit media (CNN, Fox, etc.) and make Mr. Average America (IQ = 60) think it is gospel truth. This strategy has been very successful. If the USA would allow the IAEA to do its job without interference, the world would be a safer place. But since they infiltrate most international bodies to obtain what they want, you can be sure that the pro-Zionist elements in the State, Justice, Defence and Homeland Security departments will set the agenda. Holder and his lackies are just window dressing for the real powers within the government.
Strider55
October 13th, 2011 at 7:31 am
It is rather insulting that the Obama freaks would presume the American people are stupid.
Given the state of the public schools (a.k.a. govt. indoctrination camps), that's a pretty solid presumption.
RickR30
October 13th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Lack of evidence is not going to stop the US puppets of israel from declaring war on Iran in order to bankrupt America for the sole purpose of pleasing nihilist necrophiliac lunatics in israel. This ridiculous fake plot is not going to unite a whole lot of people in the world around the idea of war against Iran, and it's going to do very little to get silly Americans enthused about it. They need one more step, and I'm terrified to think what they'll come up with. Where are patriotic FBI agents and others in the intelligence community who can blow this whole deception wide open, it would save not just a lot of lives but it would save this nation.
Don
October 13th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Mossad.
j r
October 13th, 2011 at 9:23 am
When asked for proof of this “terrorist plot” the government responded, “We had the proof but threw it in the ocean to prevent the terrorists from winning.”
j r
October 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Where are the patriotic FBI agents? Haha. That's like asking where are the good cops.
thedissenter
October 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Of course there's no real evidence. Duh! The whole thing sounds like a plot from a Cheech and Chong movie called "Iran Terrorists Meet Mexican Drug Cartel" in which Mexican food is all the rave in Iran and the only way to get their fix is to team up with the Mexican drug cartels financed by the US DoJ, whack the Saudi ambassador and get their evil hands and the entire stock of tacos and burritos. Muaaa haaa haaaa [insert evil laugh at the end].
The US gets stupider and stupider by the day. And just at a time when the US populace is finally beginning to wake up from their stupor.
MoT
October 13th, 2011 at 10:05 am
It's when the herd begins to "get a clue" that you can expect another shoe to drop, another distraction to pop up in order to push them off kilter once again and set the game back into motion. Your Cheech and Chong reference is apt because this whole story goes 'Up In Smoke'.
Wlidey Moore
October 13th, 2011 at 10:26 am
But just think, the goal is to rile the American people against Iran, you know, like imaginary mushroom clouds were used to rile the people against Saddam. This way, they have Americans riled up against Iran, the Zionists chief enemy, and Iran and the Saudi's riled at each other, a coup for AIPAC. Read northwoods.com. It explains how Washington uses the ring in the people's noses to get them motivated to killing people and destroying their lands.
thedissenter
October 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Yep. The Iranians got it right, this is all smoke and mirrors to distract the sheep from OWS and other boondogles facing the oligarchy. Sadly, the cheap tricks are not working anymore. They've cried 'wolf' way too many times and the people have bigger fish to fry.
Humanist
October 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Part 1 of
Watch how Hillary Mann Leverett dismisses the claim of Iranian involvement in the plot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed…
I think this is not the first moronic (in a way comic) fabrication to demonize Iran. On January 2008, US made an allegation about Iranian speedboats harassing and threatening US naval vessels in the Persian Gulf.
Watch this video that was shown repeatedly on US MSM where Iranians are threatening ‘I am coming to you’ or .’you’ll explode after 2 minutes’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzyeMvhKp2U
Stupid US propagandists then couldn’t envision Iranians might make their own video on that incident. When one of the Iranian videos (as seen below) was shown on couple of US outlets the whole story quickly fizzled out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj5lRnP0kcs
Humanist
October 13th, 2011 at 11:11 am
part 2
This was when Bush was about to visit Saudi Arabia and not too far from the time Cheney on board of a US ship in Persian Gulf seriously threatened Iran.
In the above video the Iranian sailor is talking in Farsi about the GPS coordinates that shows US vessels were inside the Iranian territorial waters.
Under the light of the facts seen in the videos one can wonder how easily the US President is lying about that incident..
Now is this allegation another comedy/tragedy being played with similar sinister intention?…only in a different masquerade? Is it possible they are preparing the sheeple for another war? I think that is a frightening possiblity .
Humanist
October 13th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Part 4
This is saddening since from different computer simulations we know that for any possible international dispute there exists at least one peaceful civilized solution that could benefit both sides of the conflict (provided of course the parties are fair and rational). But these psychopathic sadists will settle for nothing but WAR. These are the bunch who, in Clinton years, among many bulkier and more horrendous crimes, pulled the strings until a sanction was imposed on Iraq causing abhorrent death of half a million children from starvation and lack of medicine.
What is worrisome is that this bunch now possess enormous resources of various kind. For them hundred thousand dollars as downpayment is a tiny small change.
Seems they are going to get what they want, if not today, this year or the next. The population under the rule of any ruler who dares to insult them is destined to the fate of Amalekites….that is a divine instruction……..kill them all, even their infants and their animals..
They are truly their own worst enemies.
O'Brien
October 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
No doubt emboldened by the successful evidence-free, due process-free, media free-pass killing of Awlaki…
Obama Calls for Iran Sanctions Following Alleged Plot http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/us/obama-calls-for-ira...
San Fernando Curt
October 13th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Somebody's cherry-picking a mushroom cloud out of the stovepipe.
O'Brien
October 13th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
BREAKING: Pot Calls Kettle 'Reckless'
http://tinyurl.com/6ya2kd3
(Warning: State-run U.S. media sources AP/WaPo)
ML3
October 13th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I laugh when I think of all the people who were fooled: " Aw it's gonna be different, man! There's a black guy in the White House!"
Obammy presidency proves one thing beyond a reasonable doubt: No matter the rhetoric, no matter the skin color, no matter the slogans or what have you – the man will be a tool, a salesman, an empty suit thru which others will speak. And those "others" never seem to want to do right, or have the best interests of the people – well, the American people anyway – at heart.
The script is written, el Presidente (whomever the Hell he or she will end up being) is just the actor playing the lead role in a violent, bloody farce
juvanya
October 14th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Didnt O-bomb-bomb plot to assassinate an American-Yemeni?