The hysterical allegations surrounding the apparent shoot-down of Malaysia Airlines MH17 in eastern Ukraine continue to grow. The latest round of unproven allegations seems to be focusing on the situation at the crash site itself.
Earlier this morning, NBC News presented the story “fury grows as pro-Russian rebels block access to MH17 site,” which pictures of scary-looking rebels with masks and guns.
But that doesn’t seem to be true, as BBC News was reporting at virtually the same time that “Dutch experts examine bodies,” a story focusing on how the rebels were actually letting the Dutch access the bodies. Another group of international investigators is making their way to the site as well.
The narrative of the rebels doing something untoward by positioning guards around the crash site paradoxically comes alongside complains that, before those guards showed up, locals were looting the bodies. Secretary of State John Kerry even mocked the “drunken” rebels in a condemnation on Sunday.
And while the West continues to push for a “ceasefire” on the terms of an unconditional rebel surrender, Ukraine’s military continues its bloody offensive against the rebel-held cities of Donetsk and Luhansk, apparently oblivious to the efforts to end the war diplomatically, reflecting their own promise to never again agree to any ceasefire that didn’t involve all the rebels surrendering.
One mistake there, Jason.
The bodies (most of them) were in a train at a railway station, like the BBC article describes. Which is not the MH-17 site which, at least to some, appeared to be blocked or access still hampered, at the time.
But you're right about the overall hasty reporting and mood soaked articles. One article in the British Daiy Mail I noticed tried to compare the special cooling trains to the Holocaust imagery of the death trains. Go figure.
The constant "inability" of journalists to get facts straight is a result of the propaganda used by the US and NATO to drive the "narrative." Naive and stupid people lap it up, because it has the appearance of journos on the scene keeping busy, when in reality most of the so-called reporting is done by producers and editors in London, DC and New York.
Like the western journalists in Yugoslavia interviewed the Terrorists on what they say happened and reported their stories as facts . If Goddaffi or Saddam Hussien were alive would you believe their side of the story . Well now days you can't believe our side any more either ..
My sixth sense tells me that another Diane Sawyer exclusive is forthcoming.
NBC Nightly News on Monday just reported that U.S. intelligence has "hard evidence" that points to the rebels. And then doesn't reveal what that evidence is or one word of explanation and labels contrary Russian claims as propaganda.
In war you have to realize the lies are a very important part of all wars . Do you recall how Iraqi's had disconnected the incubators in Kuwait . This was not the truth , but it got a lot of American citizens excited
Well, when the investigation is over the rebels can go back to spanking the Ukrainian killers. Better sooner than later as clearly Poroshenko's only taking advantage of the hysteria to continue his campaign of ethnic cleansing.
Reuters reports the Dutch now threatening to push for tougher sanctions if Russia doesn't "do more to help". Is everyone assuming that the eastern part of Ukraine actually is under control of Russia and that Ukraine is waging a war of independence here?
Just saw an ABC story on MH17. I am aghast. Hysteria is a good word, but desperate would fit as well. Getting a strong “center will not hold” feeling.
That’s American ABC, BTW.
Reuters: Peter van Vliet, whose team went through the wagons dressedin surgical masks and rubber gloves, said he was impressed bythe work the recovery crews had done, given the heat and thescale of the crash site. "I think they did a hell of a job in ahell of a place," he said. As they went about their work, fighting flared in Donetsk,some 60 km (40 miles) from the site, in a reminder ofthe dangers the experts face operating in a war zone. The government in Kiev denied sending the regular army into the center of Donetsk, which pro-Russian separatists captured inApril, but said small "self-organised" pro-Ukrainian groups werefighting the rebels in the city.
I really hate it when I see how one-sided this has become.
Do a search for "USA: 5 Billion to Ukraine Recently". It will take you to a video of Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, admitting what the USA has been doing. Note the Chevron symbol in the background of the video. Not only that, take a look at how Ukraine oil company Burisma Holdings officially hired U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden as a lawyer after the company appointed him to the board of directors in April. When did it become fashionable to consider those who started the war to be INNOCENT?
Prior to WWII, Hitler staged a false attack by Polish forces on Germany, to create a "casus belli". The USA has been doing the same thing, only doing it via economics, they did it in Syria, and they did it in Ukraine. They provide cash to the opposition in the targeted country, when the coup takes place, they blame the opposition and claim legitimacy for the new government, even though it was not established democratically. The best known instance of the USA doing this was the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, but that is not the only, by a longshot.
"I will never apologize for the United States – I don't care what the facts are… I'm not an apologize-for-America kind of guy." George Bush (Sr.) . . . After the U.S.S. Vincennes shoot down of Iran Air Flight 655. Now you want Putin to apologize?
In REAL truth, there are TWO sides to blame here, and, all of this stupidity would not be happening if they would reform the UN so that it is not strong-armed by certain extremely biased countries, and let the UN handle instances like this. The USA does not want the UN in charge, because the USA wants to continue acting unilaterally, (which is illegal under international law). Without the UN, (although it needs to be reformed) the world has reverted back to a less civilized time prior to World War I, when any event can result in world-wide war, and one person can light the spark that sets it all off. We are not far from that happening. It is unfortunate, but those who set out to fight the terrorists . . . have become more like the terrorists. They have lost their moral compass, and, behave much like the terrorists. . . .
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
The constant, persistent polarization of society, and the toleration of racism only leads in one direction, a direction that is certainly not where we want to take the younger generation . . . . but if you continue to fill younger people's heads with all this one-sided, nationalistic, polarizing, racist non-sense, don't expect humanity to last much longer, because all the hatred will end in one final nuclear exchange.
Very good posting indeed. Let's not allow greedy, corrupted politicians, militarists take control of our world.
If the US keeps this up, they're going to get some Russian "peacekeepers" in there just like in Georgia. Putin won't risk letting the separatists go their own way while he gets the blame, and he won't back down (can't) so he'll go forward. Happy now?
Yes, that's right.
Well, I believe the prosecution team of the White House, the hawks in Congress and in the media have rested their case in this trial of Russia by media…or have they? I mean we already know that the Russians eat babies for breakfast, lunch, diner and midnight snacks, but do they also get their jollies from having sex with corpses?! What won't these Russian savages and their partisans in Ukraine do!
Russia is clearly 100% guilty of the downing of MH17, and anybody suggesting otherwise, like the Ukrainians shot it down mistakenly believing it was a Russian target, are clearly supporters of baby eating and desecrating the bodies of the dead.