Comments on: Obama Admits to US Role in Iran Coup http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/ Original and up-to-date news Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:25:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DrFix http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2148 DrFix Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:45:03 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2148 The US has a hostile relationship with anyone who doesn't kowtow to its wishes. Thats been evident since I can remember when. Time and again I hear people parrot about the Iranian taking of the US embassy in Tehran as though it were the most horrific thing to ever happen. Did anyone die? I don't remember. I also don't recall there being an air strike, as is typical from uncle sam, with scads of "collateral damage" or "oops! my bad" comments from military bobble heads. Obama may give voice and admit things that are quite obvious, and there is merit to that, but I wouldn't trust the man as far as I can spit. He is a political chameleon and will say whatever and move wherever the wind blows. The US has a hostile relationship with anyone who doesn't kowtow to its wishes. Thats been evident since I can remember when. Time and again I hear people parrot about the Iranian taking of the US embassy in Tehran as though it were the most horrific thing to ever happen. Did anyone die? I don't remember. I also don't recall there being an air strike, as is typical from uncle sam, with scads of "collateral damage" or "oops! my bad" comments from military bobble heads. Obama may give voice and admit things that are quite obvious, and there is merit to that, but I wouldn't trust the man as far as I can spit. He is a political chameleon and will say whatever and move wherever the wind blows.

]]> By: Archie1954 http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2138 Archie1954 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:00:47 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2138 The most important thing the President will be accomplishing and the one that will live on in effect for many years after his return to private life is the quashing of the exceptionalism myth. The President by mentioning the mistakes or misbegotten American policies of the past is telling everyone that we are like all other nations, prone to error. At least by making this clear the US can move forward without the albatross of exceptionalism to colour every egregious policy and action with a coating of beneficence as if anything done by the US, no matter how deleterious to the world must be good because we are exceptional. No more of that foolishness, it's time for reality to set in. The most important thing the President will be accomplishing and the one that will live on in effect for many years after his return to private life is the quashing of the exceptionalism myth. The President by mentioning the mistakes or misbegotten American policies of the past is telling everyone that we are like all other nations, prone to error. At least by making this clear the US can move forward without the albatross of exceptionalism to colour every egregious policy and action with a coating of beneficence as if anything done by the US, no matter how deleterious to the world must be good because we are exceptional. No more of that foolishness, it's time for reality to set in.

]]> By: goldhoarder http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2135 goldhoarder Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:07:49 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2135 ummmm...not really duncan. Name one US president ever admitting a role in the overthrow. It is old news and I think some lower level poltiical leaders have admitted it but never a US president. I think Obama deserves a bit of praise for trying to spell out a different foreign policy direction that will be more peaceful. Will that actually happen? I am very skeptical about that but I think Obama is going to try and steer a different course...meaning I think War with Iran is off the table. I think after Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Obama has had enough. LOL. I could be wrong though. Jason...One complaint.... "In the 30 years since the revolution, the US and Iran have had a hostile relationship"...that is the US Propagana line again. The US and Iran have had hostile relations since 1953. Because we supported a brutal dictator who did our bidding does not mean we had good relations with Iran...Iran being the people who live there of course. ummmm…not really duncan. Name one US president ever admitting a role in the overthrow. It is old news and I think some lower level poltiical leaders have admitted it but never a US president. I think Obama deserves a bit of praise for trying to spell out a different foreign policy direction that will be more peaceful. Will that actually happen? I am very skeptical about that but I think Obama is going to try and steer a different course…meaning I think War with Iran is off the table. I think after Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Obama has had enough. LOL. I could be wrong though. Jason…One complaint…. "In the 30 years since the revolution, the US and Iran have had a hostile relationship"…that is the US Propagana line again. The US and Iran have had hostile relations since 1953. Because we supported a brutal dictator who did our bidding does not mean we had good relations with Iran…Iran being the people who live there of course.

]]> By: goldhoarder http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 goldhoarder Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:07:32 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2136 ummmm...not really duncan. Site one US president ever admitting a role in the overthrow. It is old news and I think some lower level poltiical leaders have admitted it but never a US president. I think Obama deserves a bit of praise for trying to spell out a different foreign policy direction that will be more peaceful. Will that actually happen? I am very skeptical about that but I think Obama is going to try and steer a different course...meaning I think War with Iran is off the table. I think after Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Obama has had enough. LOL. I could be wrong though. Jason...One complaint.... "In the 30 years since the revolution, the US and Iran have had a hostile relationship"...that is the US Propagana line again. The US and Iran have had hostile relations since 1953. Because we supported a brutal dictator who did our bidding does not mean we had good relations with Iran...Iran being the people who live there of course. ummmm…not really duncan. Site one US president ever admitting a role in the overthrow. It is old news and I think some lower level poltiical leaders have admitted it but never a US president. I think Obama deserves a bit of praise for trying to spell out a different foreign policy direction that will be more peaceful. Will that actually happen? I am very skeptical about that but I think Obama is going to try and steer a different course…meaning I think War with Iran is off the table. I think after Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Obama has had enough. LOL. I could be wrong though. Jason…One complaint…. "In the 30 years since the revolution, the US and Iran have had a hostile relationship"…that is the US Propagana line again. The US and Iran have had hostile relations since 1953. Because we supported a brutal dictator who did our bidding does not mean we had good relations with Iran…Iran being the people who live there of course.

]]> By: jbnhm http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2127 jbnhm Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:07:50 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2127 This is for the most part a great article. But the term is "seized power" not "ceased power". "Ceased power" means something like "quit power", which is basically the opposite of what you want. Furthermore, you say "US officials saying they don't really except negotiations with Iran" when it should be "accept". This is for the most part a great article. But the term is "seized power" not "ceased power". "Ceased power" means something like "quit power", which is basically the opposite of what you want. Furthermore, you say "US officials saying they don't really except negotiations with Iran" when it should be "accept".

]]> By: Duncan__Idaho http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2131 Duncan__Idaho Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:57:41 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2131 Neither Libya nor Iran had ANYTHING to do with Lockerbie. These myths have been dispelled a long time ago, regardless of the BBC's current propaganda war. Neither Libya nor Iran had ANYTHING to do with Lockerbie. These myths have been dispelled a long time ago, regardless of the BBC's current propaganda war.

]]> By: Duncan__Idaho http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2130 Duncan__Idaho Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:53:05 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2130 Before everybody's knees get bloody from bowing to Messiah Obama, US admission of guilt in Mossadegh's overthrow is OLD HAT. They took responsibility for it from DAY ONE - quite proudly, i might add. This "admission" is just rhetorical propaganda for the Muslim world. If he actually MEANT anything by it then he would have acknowledged the LEGITIMACY of Iranians overthrowing the US puppet Shah Pahlavi. He did not, and that is all you need to know. Before everybody's knees get bloody from bowing to Messiah Obama, US admission of guilt in Mossadegh's overthrow is OLD HAT. They took responsibility for it from DAY ONE – quite proudly, i might add. This "admission" is just rhetorical propaganda for the Muslim world.

If he actually MEANT anything by it then he would have acknowledged the LEGITIMACY of Iranians overthrowing the US puppet Shah Pahlavi. He did not, and that is all you need to know.

]]> By: PARRYISLE2 http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/04/obama-admits-to-us-role-in-iran-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-2129 PARRYISLE2 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:17:46 +0000 http://news.antiwar.com/?p=4157#comment-2129 Obama did break new ground by mentioning the U.S. role in overthrowing the legally elected democratic government in Iran in 1953. This was done at the behest of Britain on behalf of British Petroleum which had lost its lucrative five decade monopy on Iran's major economic asset, its petrol industry. Though this is now well hidden in America's collective memory it will never be forgotten, or forgiven by the Iranian people. Also mentioning another crime against Iran is the downing of Iran's Airbus by the USS Vincennes. Though Washington claimed this was an accident the crew were awarded medals for their participation in this "accident." I believe the downing of the PanAm flight over Lockerbie, Scotland was Iran's retaliation for this. A later attack in California Iranian agents on the vehicle of the ship's, Capt. Will Rogers failed to killed him but reports our navy now refuses to disclose his present assignment. George Santayana's comment "He who does not remember the past is doomed to repeat it." Let us hope that someday our leaders will understand there is a price of unintended consequences to paid for our misguided foreign policies. Steve, WW2 Obama did break new ground by mentioning the U.S. role in overthrowing the legally elected democratic government in Iran in 1953. This was done at the behest of Britain on behalf of British Petroleum which had lost its lucrative five decade monopy on Iran's major economic asset, its petrol industry. Though this is now well hidden in America's collective memory it will never be forgotten, or forgiven by the Iranian people. Also mentioning another crime against Iran is the downing of Iran's Airbus by the USS Vincennes. Though Washington claimed this was an accident the crew were awarded medals for their participation in this "accident." I believe the downing of the PanAm flight over Lockerbie, Scotland was Iran's retaliation for this. A later attack in California Iranian agents on the vehicle of the ship's, Capt. Will Rogers failed to killed him but reports our navy now refuses to disclose his present assignment. George Santayana's comment "He who does not remember the past is doomed to repeat it." Let us hope that someday our leaders will understand there is a price of unintended consequences to paid for our misguided foreign policies. Steve, WW2

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