Comments on: Reports: Pakistani Military Killing Buner Civilians

By: Pakistan Vows War Against Swat Valley ‘Terrorists’ -- News from Antiwar.com

Fri, 08 May 2009 16:40:09 +0000

[...] While the Pakistani government has succeeded in killing 143 militants, it has also killed an unknown but significant number of civilians and driven at least 500,000 others from their [...]

By: Pakistan: Taliban Seize City as Up to 500,000 Civilians Flee « Muslim in Suffer

Thu, 07 May 2009 07:21:27 +0000

[...] destination, in droves and as many as 500,000 have reportedly already left their homes. Reports of indiscriminate shelling by the military and use of human shields by the militants are rampant, and the once sleepy valley is now one of the [...]

By: wadosy

wadosy — Sun, 03 May 2009 17:14:07 +0000

did you get a chance to look at that map?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3637/pnacplan1...

would you like to refute points made in the text appearing on that map, or are you content with pontificating in defense of the neocons?

By: Mike E

Mike E — Sat, 02 May 2009 21:02:00 +0000

You continue to see the world through this PNAC/Israel/Exxon lens. I am not defending anything but reasonable, intelligent discussion with arguments that are backed up by evidence. This discussion meets none of those criteria. I am merely responding so that the handful of others that do what you do may read this and understand our policy.

Note that if you replaced "Israel" with "China" and "PNAC" with "AEI" I would still moderate the crap out of the comments. I don't defend any of these parties/individuals, just this topic of these comment threads. Take a breath and analyze the world without thinking about Israel. Just try.

By: wadosy

wadosy — Sat, 02 May 2009 20:57:07 +0000

i mistakenly thought you were an \”intensedebate\” guy… sorry for that.

you are not collectivists, but apparently the US and israeli governments are, and they are continuing on with this PNAC project… i suggest you quit defending them, and quit harrassing people who are trying to make sense of the situation.

By: Mike E

Mike E — Sat, 02 May 2009 20:50:15 +0000

Pasting your theories in numerous comments does NOT add to the discussion. This is not a forum for your positions on the Israeli/Exxon connection to US foreign policy. I am not taking a position on your ideas, simply asking that you put them somewhere where it is relevant. You appear to think it is relevant _everywhere_, which I do not believe.

Finally, we at antiwar.com are not collectivists. The staff does not look at the whole of "Israelis" and make blanket statements about the population. A society and culture is ultimately made of individuals who act, not ethnicities or parties. Your predictable statements about "Israelis " are just another form of collectivism. Be precise in your language and perhaps people will listen more closely. Otherwise you sound like you are putting all Israelis into one "bucket" just like I suspect you don't like the Israeli defense policy makers do with "Palestinians." As you know, there isn't one "Palestinian"… there are terrorists, children, mothers, fathers and innocent civilians. That applies to all countries and all peoples.

Stop pasting diatribes and start talking about the article.

Finally, I predict you will say that I "support Israel" or I am under "their" command. If that is how you see the world, I suggest you re-examine your worldview.

By: wadosy

wadosy — Sat, 02 May 2009 20:34:05 +0000

i dont expect you to reply. you already know you're on thin ice, and your job is to salvage the situation.

you cant. you will have to resort to more of ledeen's creative destruction.

it's just too bad that israelis seem to have abandoned their sanity along with their morals.

By: Mike E

Mike E — Sat, 02 May 2009 20:02:40 +0000

Dear wadosy-

After moderating comments today I see that you have a common theme. Please note that you cannot blame everything on Israel nor can every world event have an Israeli connection. Chill out.

By: wadosy

wadosy — Sat, 02 May 2009 09:15:38 +0000

neocons are doing the same thing in darfur, in an attempt to change regimes in sudan and expel the chinese oil company in south sudan.

the same thing is happening in somalia, abkhazia, south ossetia, now balochistan and northern pakistan… stand by for trouble in yemen and eritrea, and more trouble in ukraine, georgia, probably kygyzstan, tajikistan, uzbekistan and turkmenistan…

it’s really simple: all you have to do is stir up enough trouble to justify intervention, and you stir up that trouble by exploiting latent conflicts in the country you’re trying to destabilize…

the ploy’s become so obvious in pakistan that it can no longer be denied…

…and once you see a map of the project, it becomes even more obvious.

By: wadosy

wadosy — Sat, 02 May 2009 09:13:47 +0000

you gots to stir up enough trouble to justify military intervention.

neocons have tried that strategy in the balkans, where it worked, resulting in israeli american occupation of the power vacuum left behind in the balkans when the soviet union collapsed.

it also worked to a certain extent in iraqi kurdistan, which just happens to be pro-israel and pro-american, and just happens to have the closest oil of any consequence to israel.